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[[WMG: The Cacodemon and Pain Elemental are related to one another in some manner, as well as to ''{{Unreal}}'''s Gasbag]]

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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil. The demons also won't be able to follow them, because it was Betruger's knowledge and intel that allowed them to invade (who, at this moment, is kind of dead). They wouldn't be able to operate the teleporter without him, finally fully severing all direct ties between Hell and our universe.

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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil. The demons also won't be able to follow them, because it was Betruger's knowledge the teleporters require someone who knows how they work to maintain the portal (which are the roles of Ian McKormic, Dr. Meyes and intel that allowed them Dr. McNeil when teleporting the main character. Not having a proper overseer destroys the Delta Teleporter when the Marine came back in Doom 3). The demons, in order to invade activate the teleporter, required Betruger to maintain the portal (who, at this moment, is kind of dead). They wouldn't be able to operate the teleporter without him, finally fully severing all direct ties between Hell and our universe.
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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil.

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McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow survived and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil. The demons also won't be able to follow them, because it was Betruger's knowledge and intel that allowed them to invade (who, at this moment, is kind of dead). They wouldn't be able to operate the teleporter without him, finally fully severing all direct ties between Hell and our universe.
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In the original Doom 3, the Soul Cube severed all ties between Hell and Mars, which is why the demons eventually fail. However, in Resurrection of Evil, the forces of Hell not only come back, but leave an Artifact behind to lure in the humans. This would contradict the Soul Cube's actions in Doom 3. The Exis Teleporter explains how the demons got through. The Soul Cube can seal off Hell and Martian portals, which explains why demons didn't invade until humans built teleporters. This shows that human teleporters aren't affected by the Soul Cube. Thus, the demons used the Exis Teleporter to return back to Mars and remove the Soul Cube, once again allowing them to return to Mars. Thus, the destruction of the Exis Teleporter in the Lost Mission means that in that timeline, RoE never happened. The Exis Teleporter also explains that...

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In the original Doom 3, the Soul Cube severed all ties between Hell and Mars, which is why the demons eventually fail. However, in Resurrection of Evil, the forces of Hell not only come back, but leave an Artifact behind to lure in the humans. This would contradict the Soul Cube's actions in Doom 3. The Exis Teleporter explains how the demons got through. The Soul Cube can seal off Hell and Martian portals, which explains why demons didn't invade until humans built teleporters. However, once the humans created their own teleporters, Betruger was able to circumvent the Soul Cube's abilities and trap it in Hell to set off the invasion. This shows that human teleporters aren't affected by the Soul Cube. Thus, the demons used the Exis Teleporter to return back to Mars and remove the Soul Cube, once again allowing them to return to Mars. Thus, the destruction of the Exis Teleporter in the Lost Mission means that in that timeline, RoE never happened. The Exis Teleporter also explains that...

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Obviously, the fact that the lone Bravo Team member and Dr. Meyers surviving the events of Doom 3 directly contradicts the events of Resurrection of Evil. Thus, the only possible explanation is that this story takes place in a different timeline than Resurrection of Evil. This is where the title comes in. This expansion pack is called the "Lost" Mission because in the original timeline, Bravo Team was completely wiped out, and thus, their mission was "lost". This alternate timeline is basically a WhatIf? story where a single Bravo Team member survived to continue carrying out the mission, thus changing the timeline of the story.

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Obviously, the fact that the lone Bravo Team member and Dr. Meyers surviving survive the events of Doom 3 directly contradicts the events of Resurrection of Evil. Thus, the only possible explanation is that this story takes place in a different timeline than Resurrection of Evil. This is where the title comes in. This expansion pack is called the "Lost" Mission because in the original timeline, Bravo Team was completely wiped out, and thus, their mission was "lost". This alternate timeline is basically a WhatIf? story where a single shows the mission that ''would've'' happened had any member of Bravo Team member survive their encounter. The Lost Mission also explains how...

[[WMG: The Exis Teleporter is the reason why the events of Resurrection of Evil take place.]]
In the original Doom 3, the Soul Cube severed all ties between Hell and Mars, which is why the demons eventually fail. However, in Resurrection of Evil, the forces of Hell not only come back, but leave an Artifact behind to lure in the humans. This would contradict the Soul Cube's actions in Doom 3. The Exis Teleporter explains how the demons got through. The Soul Cube can seal off Hell and Martian portals, which explains why demons didn't invade until humans built teleporters. This shows that human teleporters aren't affected by the Soul Cube. Thus, the demons used the Exis Teleporter to return back to Mars and remove the Soul Cube, once again allowing them to return to Mars. Thus, the destruction of the Exis Teleporter in the Lost Mission means that in that timeline, RoE never happened. The Exis Teleporter also explains that...

[[WMG: The Exis Teleporter is what allowed the Doom Marine from RoE to survive.]]
McNeil says "Welcome Home", not "Welcome to a better place", or "paradise", or any other euphanism for Heaven. This would indicate that the Marine somehow
survived to continue carrying out and got back. Previously, there was an issue with this WMG because the mission, thus changing Marine had no way to return to Mars, considering the timeline of teleporter he used had had no opposite teleporter in Hell, which would prevent any return trip. However, the story.Exis Teleporter solves this. It has been shown to be capable of being activated within Hell (which makes up the plot for the Lost Mission) so the Marine somehow fought his way to that teleporter and escaped back to Mars and then to Earth with Dr. McNeil.
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Song came out a year after Doom was released, parts of it sound a LOT like E1M9 Hiding the Secrets.

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Song came out a year after Doom was released, parts of it sound a LOT like E1M9 Hiding the Secrets.Secrets.

[[WMG: The Lost Mission is a WhatIf? scenario]]
Obviously, the fact that the lone Bravo Team member and Dr. Meyers surviving the events of Doom 3 directly contradicts the events of Resurrection of Evil. Thus, the only possible explanation is that this story takes place in a different timeline than Resurrection of Evil. This is where the title comes in. This expansion pack is called the "Lost" Mission because in the original timeline, Bravo Team was completely wiped out, and thus, their mission was "lost". This alternate timeline is basically a WhatIf? story where a single Bravo Team member survived to continue carrying out the mission, thus changing the timeline of the story.
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* This is hinted in-game. The final level of Knee-Deep In The Dead is called Phobos Anomaly. While the early levels on Deimos are normal sounding (Deimos Lab, Containment Area), they go into hellish with Halls of the Damned and Spawning Vats.
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He's AxCrazy, conversant with weapons and seemingly [[NoFourthWall can have a conversation with his dialogue boxes.]] Who else could he be?

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He's AxCrazy, conversant with weapons and seemingly [[NoFourthWall can have a conversation with his dialogue boxes.]] Who else could he be?be?

[[WMG: Black metal?]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcZKT7fa0gE

Song came out a year after Doom was released, parts of it sound a LOT like E1M9 Hiding the Secrets.
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* The hell level in Doom 3 is actually in the eye of terror or the warp itself. Explains the upside-down physics and demons. UAC discovered warp travel.
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[[WMG: EventHorizon and {{Doom}} are in the same universe]]

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[[WMG: EventHorizon and {{Doom}} VideoGame/{{Doom}} are in the same universe]]



He's AxCrazy, conversant with weapons and seemingly [[NoFourthWall can have a conversation with his dialogue boxes.]] Who else could he be?

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He's AxCrazy, conversant with weapons and seemingly [[NoFourthWall can have a conversation with his dialogue boxes.]] Who else could he be?
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*** The Doom Marine(Stan Blazkowicz) doesn't even wear power armor, he wears titanium body armor that reveals his rock-hard abs. Besides Gordon's and Stan's faces and physiques are quite different

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*** The Doom Marine(Stan Blazkowicz) Marine doesn't even wear power armor, he wears titanium body armor that reveals his rock-hard abs. Besides Gordon's and Stan's faces and physiques are quite different
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* [[FridgeBrilliance So that's why no Duke Nukem game ever took place on Mars!]]
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[[WMG: The DoomGuy becomes Khorne]]
Think about it. Both characters go completely batshit insane when around blood. A single punch from the doomguy can fracture the very fabric of one's body, Some playthroughs of doom use ONLY THEIR FISTS. Hence, it could be concidered that the doomguy literally only took on the forces of hell with his fists ALONE. In Doom 64, he seals himself into hell, All the time in hell probably changed him into some godlike entity hellbent on spewing more blood.
*RIP AND TEAR! RIP AND TEAR!

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[[WMG: The Doomguy is {{Duke Nukem}}.]]

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[[WMG: The Doomguy is {{Duke Nukem}}.VideoGame/DukeNukem.]]



* Wait, Scott is VideoGame/{{Commander Keen}}?

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* Wait, Scott is VideoGame/{{Commander Keen}}?VideoGame/CommanderKeen?



After the release of Doom 2, video game levels became drastically more realist, especially their layouts. After playing a game like Half Life 2 or more recent shooters like Uncharted it can be jarring to go back to games like Doom where the levels are more abstract and aren't made to resemble anything 'real'. Switches can reveal massive underground rooms or pits of toxic waste in surreal locations. These levels, though, are they really so abstract? Or is this merely a reflection of how the invading demons bring Hell with them? The levels get more abstract towards the ends of Doom 1 and 2, when the player gets closer to (or actually enters) hell itself, so obviously this abstraction is just part of how hell works.

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After the release of Doom 2, video game levels became drastically more realist, especially their layouts. After playing a game like Half Life 2 or more recent shooters like Uncharted it can be jarring to go back to games like Doom where the levels are more abstract and aren't made to resemble anything 'real'. Switches can reveal massive underground rooms or pits of toxic waste in surreal locations. These levels, though, are they really so abstract? Or is this merely a reflection of how the invading demons bring Hell with them? The levels get more abstract towards the ends of Doom 1 and 2, when the player gets closer to (or actually enters) hell itself, so obviously this abstraction is just part of how hell works.



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* Wait, Scott is {{Commander Keen}}?

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* Wait, Scott is {{Commander VideoGame/{{Commander Keen}}?



** Billy Blaze (a.k.a. CommanderKeen) is BJ's grandson. BJ's son Arthur changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze in order to get a job as a TV show host.

[[WMG: Doom Guy is the grandson of CommanderKeen]]

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** Billy Blaze (a.k.a. CommanderKeen) VideoGame/CommanderKeen) is BJ's grandson. BJ's son Arthur changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze in order to get a job as a TV show host.

[[WMG: Doom Guy is the grandson of CommanderKeen]]VideoGame/CommanderKeen]]
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[[WMG: The Doomguy from the Doom comic is Deadpool.]]
He's AxCrazy, conversant with weapons and seemingly [[NoFourthWall can have a conversation with his dialogue boxes.]] Who else could he be?
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[[WMG: The Cacodemon and Pain Elemental are related to one another in some manner, as well as to ''{{Unreal}}'''s Gasbag]]
I mean, they're both floating heads with gigantic mouths that can create things and launch them offensively (fireballs and [[MookMaker Lost Souls]]). Eventually the two species, now inseparable, end up on [[VideoGame/{{Unreal}} Na Pali]], becoming known as Gasbags - floating heads with a big mouth that can shoot fireballs (like the Cacodemon), but with usable arms at their sides and brown skin (like the Pain Elemental). Furthermore, the largest of these creatures can create smaller ones to help it in battle.
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[[WMG: Doom Guy is the grandson of CommanderKeen]]
The Blaze/Blazkowicz family moved to Mars after the Vorticons were eliminated. During the UAC teleporter incident, old man Billy Blaze was taken prisoner by the Demon invaders. When the Doom Guy finds his grandfather being tortured by the Cyberdemon incarnation of Hans Grosse, he does the only thing in his power: he delivers a coup de grâce. The spirit of Billy Blaze rewards his grandson by returning him to Earth.
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[[WMG: DOOM 3 is not a remake or a sequel. DOOM 1 and DOOM 3 are the ''same'' invasion fought in ''different'' parallel universes]]
The demons are waging a multi-dimensional war. An infinite number of space marines - sole survivors of their respective parallel universes - are making their way into Hell to fight a multi-dimensional EldritchAbomination.
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[[WMG: The Doomguy is {{Duke Nukem}}.]]
Think about it.
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[[WMG:Doom 3 is actually a sequel to Doom and Doom 2]]
* An interesting theory that this troper's friend made. Basically, humans on Earth eventually managed to get to Mars and its moons. However, the teleporter accidentally breached Hell, causing an invasion of Mars, its moons, and eventually Earth. The humans had enough technology to make Doomguy a BadAss, allowing him to defeat the demons (Therefore, the original Doomguy is "the Hero"). This is the events of the original Doom and Doom 2. However, the humans were so devastated by the war with Hell that they were pushed back several centuries. Doom 3 takes place AfterTheEnd where the descendents eventually go back to Mars, but since they weren't there at the first invasion, they didn't know why they shouldn't recreate the teleporter experiments, and HistoryRepeats. These are the events of Doom 3.
** The only thing this troper found that his friend didn't take into account was the Soul Cube (Though, judging by the ShoutOut to the original Doom cover on one of the tablets showing the Soul Cube instead of a machinegun, it could just be a RetCon).
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[[WMG: Event Horizon and {{Doom}} are in the same universe]]

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[[WMG: Event Horizon EventHorizon and {{Doom}} are in the same universe]]
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[[WMG: Event Horizon and {{Doom}} are in the same universe]]
"You tunnelled though hell, you seriously didn't think there'd be a price?"
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[[WMG:The Martians in Doom 3 fled to Earth]]
* And Doomguy is one of the Hero's descendents. This will explain how Doomguy is so BadAss. He is a descendent of the Martian BadAss.
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*** The Doom Marine(Stan Blazkowicz) doesn't even wear power armor, he wears titanium body armor that reveals his rock-hard abs. Besides Gordon's and Stan's faces and physiques are quite different

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* No, hold on. Someone take this seriously for a second. Doomguy has been posessed, or transformed, or altered by Hell, but he's just so {{Badass}} that he ''hasn't even noticed''. And if he had noticed, it wouldn't stop him.
** Wait, isn't that in the Doom movie? Perhaps they got something right there?
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* Then we'd better hope he doesn't snap out of it... that court martial is going to be a BITCH.
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[[WMG:All of the demons are real people; everything is a hallucination of the character's mind.]]
Mars is also a hallucination as well.
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** Billy Blaze (a.k.a. CommanderKeen) is BJ's grandson. BJ's son changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze in order to get a job as a game show host.

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** Billy Blaze (a.k.a. CommanderKeen) is BJ's grandson. BJ's son Arthur changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze in order to get a job as a game TV show host.
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** Billy Blaze (a.k.a. CommanderKeen) is BJ's grandson. BJ's son changed his last name from Blazkowicz to Blaze in order to get a job as a game show host.

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