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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Comicbook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.

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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis ComicBook/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Comicbook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.



** Wait, the Earth of the post-Crisis DCU, up until InfiniteCrisis, is secretly Earth-S?

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** Wait, the Earth of the post-Crisis DCU, up until InfiniteCrisis, ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis, is secretly Earth-S?



* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''Main/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.

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* Or the Anti-Monitor in Sinestro Corps War '''was''' the original, and still serves as the personification of the ContinuitySnarl. He worked in conjunction with Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall to cause all the current continuity errors since just before ''Main/InfiniteCrisis'' ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' to the moment became the Black Lantern Power Battery.



Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in ComicBook/MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interfereance of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.

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Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in ComicBook/MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interfereance interference of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.



Let's see...he doesn't just [[OmnicidalManiac try to destroy reality,]] but is [[PlanetEater absorbing its remains.]] He's an EldritchAbomination who's come back to life, only needing a shell to contain his essence. He's even described as a "universe-eater." This is why the Anti-Monitor does what he does-more or less, he just wants to consume TheMultiverse, and feel full afterwards. Being a MultiversalConqueror is just a bonus for the guy. This way of eating may be something that all Monitors share, [[FinalCrisis considering that they tried to eat Earths 0-51 as well.]]

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Let's see...he doesn't just [[OmnicidalManiac try to destroy reality,]] but is [[PlanetEater absorbing its remains.]] He's an EldritchAbomination who's come back to life, only needing a shell to contain his essence. He's even described as a "universe-eater." This is why the Anti-Monitor does what he does-more or less, he just wants to consume TheMultiverse, and feel full afterwards. Being a MultiversalConqueror is just a bonus for the guy. This way of eating may be something that all Monitors share, [[FinalCrisis [[ComicBook/FinalCrisis considering that they tried to eat Earths 0-51 as well.]]



[[WMG: It goes beyond that-CrisisOnInfiniteEarths represents baryogenesis.]]

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[[WMG: It goes beyond that-CrisisOnInfiniteEarths that-ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths represents baryogenesis.]]
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The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

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The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[BrightestDay [[ComicBook/BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.
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And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]

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And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]



Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.

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Think about it-the Crisis was designed to straighten out the endless continuity of DC Comics. The Anti-Monitor was sick of a confusing reality, so he decided to simplify it-make sure there was only one universe, and that the continuity didn't get snarled(the simplest way to simplify reality would be [[OmnicidalManiac to limit how complex it could get.]] The reason why the Anti-Monitor came back to life in the Sinestro Corps War was because he worried the recent 52 universes would muddle up continuity even more. He would later serve as a power battery to [[BlackestNight [[ComicBook/BlackestNight Nekron]] not just because he's a PhysicalGod, but because he had information about the continuity. Essentially, the Anti-Monitor is a CosmicEntity that exists to simplify the timeline.
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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why there's no kryptonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod or other Kryptonians. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Laura. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.

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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why there's no kryptonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod or other Kryptonians. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Laura. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, ComicBook/BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But what i'm alluding to is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash [[ComicBook/TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and yellow lightning, then there's [[SuperGirl [[ComicBook/SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.
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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.

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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange ComicBook/AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.
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* The Zombie Sentry from ''MarvelZombies'' actually ''was'' Comicbook/{{Superman}} (traveling into the afterlife is a trick he pulls off in DC One Million), from one of the 52. He broke through the barriers of reality and attacked [[Franchise/EvilDead Ash Williams]] in heaven, and then you know where it goes from there.

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* The Zombie Sentry from ''MarvelZombies'' ''ComicBook/MarvelZombies'' actually ''was'' Comicbook/{{Superman}} (traveling into the afterlife is a trick he pulls off in DC One Million), from one of the 52. He broke through the barriers of reality and attacked [[Franchise/EvilDead Ash Williams]] in heaven, and then you know where it goes from there.
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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.

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And they all have similarities to the heroes and villains we love. Given there are about 7 billion people, they're bound to exist somewhere on our world. Including the above, we have [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Arthur Curry]] (a member of the school swimming program) and his girlfriend Mary. Richard Grayson is Bruce's younger, adoptive brother. The Teen Titans are [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone's]] former classmates at college. AdamStrange is actually an astronaut who died during his mission(his TheDCU counterpart survived because the Rannians exist.) [[MartianManhunter [[ComicBook/MartianManhunter John Jones]] exists, but is a standard detective, albeit one who's into the psychic craze.
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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Thadeus Sinestro is a police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson ''is'' secretly an assassin, not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public identity looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,

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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor ComicBook/LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Thadeus Sinestro is a police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson ''is'' secretly an assassin, not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public identity looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,
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** Actually when put into context, it makes more sense: ([[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]) Super(boy-Prime) can beat both ([[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]]) Superman and ([[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]]) Superman. While the G.A. Supes is really strong (post-PowerCreepPowerSeep) and M.A. Supes is... well, Modern Age Supes strong, Prime maintains Silver Age power levels where he can literally move planets with his bare hands, has ''almost'' no weaknesses and a very black-and-white morality view. The only reason he was beaten in Infinite Crisis was that the two Supermen destroyed his armor and exposed him to red sun radiation.

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** Actually when put into context, it makes more sense: ([[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks ([[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]) Super(boy-Prime) can beat both ([[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks ([[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]]) Superman and ([[TheModernAgeOfComicBooks ([[UsefulNotes/TheModernAgeOfComicBooks Modern Age]]) Superman. While the G.A. Supes is really strong (post-PowerCreepPowerSeep) and M.A. Supes is... well, Modern Age Supes strong, Prime maintains Silver Age power levels where he can literally move planets with his bare hands, has ''almost'' no weaknesses and a very black-and-white morality view. The only reason he was beaten in Infinite Crisis was that the two Supermen destroyed his armor and exposed him to red sun radiation.
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The DCU, the MarvelUniverse, DisneyAnimatedCanon, {{Pixar}}'s films and the various Franchise/FinalFantasy worlds were all originally part of the same set of infinite earths that made up the multiverse before it was destroyed by the Anti-Moniter. We know this since we have seen that Marvel and DC universes are able to crossover occasionally, the minor {{Mythology Gag}}s in the Pixar movies, Disney owning Marvel and PrincessAndTheFrog showing a combined cosmology as that of the Disney/TheLionKing indicating a form of shared verses.

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The DCU, the MarvelUniverse, DisneyAnimatedCanon, Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon, {{Pixar}}'s films and the various Franchise/FinalFantasy worlds were all originally part of the same set of infinite earths that made up the multiverse before it was destroyed by the Anti-Moniter. We know this since we have seen that Marvel and DC universes are able to crossover occasionally, the minor {{Mythology Gag}}s in the Pixar movies, Disney owning Marvel and PrincessAndTheFrog showing a combined cosmology as that of the Disney/TheLionKing indicating a form of shared verses.
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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.

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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' ''Comicbook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.
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* Since Darkseid used that same logic to realize the existence of the Anti-Life Equation, this seems likely
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* Unlikely. Even if that only happened in the DC universe, the resulting impact would have undoubtedly shattered the ''real'' world as well.
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* Perhaps Relic is even earlier than that: he's from the original timeline aka what would've happened had Krona ''not'' messed with history. Without that there was no reason to create the Green Lantern Corps, and thus the emotional spectrum could've gone much differently. Perhaps different enough to create a light-based society, leading to Relic.
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** Earth-Prime is the baseline, reference universe. All other universes are, in part, defined by how they are different from that universe. That is why LikeRealityUnlessNoted is in effect.

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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why theres no krytonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Lora. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But more to the point; maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star and loves lightning bolts, then there's [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an emo orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior who loves the color green, wears alot of rings and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.

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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why theres there's no krytonite kryptonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod. Zod or other Kryptonians. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Lora.Laura. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But more what i'm alluding to the point; is that maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star star, the self proclaimed "fastest man alive" who claims to zoom past like red and loves lightning bolts, yellow lightning, then there's [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an emo angsty orphan with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior who loves the color green, wears alot of rings whose most precious possession is his Emerald class ring and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with a bunch of prosthetics, but they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.



*** Not all of them though, like the stupid ones that the writers came up on the spot. Prime only ever acknowledged the ones that made sense.



** No Kryptonite weakness? Superboy-Prime is human, so something that only affects Kryptonians won't bother him. Element Lad didn't whip up Kryptonite to hurt him, but an actual radioactive material that exists in our world(plutonium, maybe). It just happened to look like kryptonite.

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** No Kryptonite weakness? There is no Krypton, and even if there was Superboy-Prime is human, so something that only affects Kryptonians won't bother him. Element Lad didn't whip up Kryptonite to hurt him, but an actual radioactive material that exists in our world(plutonium, maybe). It just happened to look like kryptonite.



There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) is a cop that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is secretly an assassin, but his public job is looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a church, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,

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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) Thadeus Sinestro is a cop police lieutenant or chief that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is ''is'' secretly an assassin, but not as skilled and well equipped as in the comics though, with his public job is identity looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's cop pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, Airforce and other hopefuls that want to enlist too, the Blue Lanterns are a church, church that Hal's apprehensive to go to, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of stoners, junkies that rely on drugs to be compassionate, the Star Sapphires are a gang of "enlightened" hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , "business partners" that he stepped on to get on top,
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* ''pretty'' sure the second part's canon.
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* I'm going to prove you all wrong and tell you straight up: Canonically, there were only 3000 universes. Infinite just sounded like a better title.
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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Main/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.

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In the first Crisis, the Earth-1 Superman is clearly the pre-Crisis Superman, and at the end it's stated he'll continue to be the main Superman. However, the Main/PostCrisis DCU has its own Superman, introduced in ''Man of Steel'' and well-known for being nowhere as powerful. In fact, a lot changed after the Crisis, so much so that it's obvious the Earth presented at the end ''isn't the post-Crisis DCU at all''. ''Crisis'' was told from the perspective of that Earth, and after the Crisis was resolved that Earth... Main/{{Hypertime}}'d away or something. ''Main/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow'' takes place in this continuity.
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I believe the Monitor created a small number of his own version of shadow demons so he could test the strenghts and weakeneses of the assembled heroes, without risking the danger of any of them suffering injuries that could made them useless for his plans.

[[WMG: Relic's universe was in the Pre-Crisis Multiverse, and he somehow survivied the Crisis]]
In the upcoming Green Lantern story arc ''Lights Out'', the main antagonist, Relic, is from a universe prior to the Prime Earth universe. Kinda like Galactus - except it's hard to fit this whole 'another universe before the current DCnU' into DC's complicated continuity. So we must conclude that Relic's universe was in the original DC Multiverse, and Relic, through reasons unknown, managed to survive the wrath of the Anti-Monitor

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I believe the Monitor created a small number of his own version of shadow demons so he could test the strenghts strengths and weakeneses weaknesses of the assembled heroes, without risking the danger of any of them suffering injuries that could made them useless for his plans.

[[WMG: Relic's universe was in the Pre-Crisis Multiverse, and he somehow survivied survived the Crisis]]
In the upcoming Green Lantern story arc ''Lights Out'', the main antagonist, Relic, is from a universe prior to the Prime Earth universe. Kinda like Galactus - except it's hard to fit this whole 'another universe before the current DCnU' [[Comicbook/{{New52}} DCnU]]' into DC's complicated continuity. So we must conclude that Relic's universe was in the original DC Multiverse, and Relic, through reasons unknown, managed to survive the wrath of the Anti-Monitor
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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) is a cop that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is secretly an assassin, but his public job is looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro, Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , the Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals(they're still opposed to Hal, but they're neutral/good/whatever), the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a nearby church, the Indigo Tribe are a group of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers.

And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get ahold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]
** We should make a Fanfiction together.

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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) is a cop that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is secretly an assassin, but his public job is looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals whom are very extreme in their duties, the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a church, the Indigo Tribe are a group/cult of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers, the Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro, Sinestro's guys, and Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devastating the country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , the Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals(they're still opposed "business partners" that he stepped on to Hal, but they're neutral/good/whatever), the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a nearby church, the Indigo Tribe are a group of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers.

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And the Black Lanterns are...actually, they're the same as the ones in TheDCU. When [[BlackestNight Zombie Alex Jr]] brought Prime's victims to our universe, he sent a bunch of black rings so that, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy if Nekron is defeated, the Black Lanterns can make a comeback here.]] As for why it hasn't happened, the rings are still weak from being cut off from fiction-land. Until [[FridgeHorror you get ahold a hold of a "toy ring."]] [[UnwittingPawn It's keeping an eye on you]], and wait until you die/it finds a source of significant power. [[ZombieApocalypse And then...]]
** We should make a Fanfiction together.
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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why theres no krytonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Lora. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his powers came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But more to the point; maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star and loves lightning bolts, then theres [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clarks cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an orphan and Ideal Batman fan. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior who loves the color green, wears alot of rings and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with abunch of prosthetics, but their so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.

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Earth Prime is supposed to be the real world. So obviously no one on Earth Prime has powers. But when their in Another Universe AKA the Fictional World, thats when theirs powers manifest. These fictional places in DC, or marvel, or any kind of comic book, were born out of the Comic creators minds and take shape within their books, creating a pocket dimension, that has no effect here. Only when they bring up Earth Prime in the comics is when we actually get involved. Like Superboy-Prime probably wasn't born on Krypton, which would explain why theres no krytonite on Earth, No Darkseid in space or any trace of Zod. He may have just been abandoned by his real parents, who just happened to be exactly like Jor-El and Lara and were aptly named Jordan and Lora. Also the comet that Superboy claims gave him his powers was nothing more than coincidence, it was the fact that the fictional Superman had came into his world that gave him powers. Which would also explain why, only when Alex gave him back his armor in BlackestNight, is when his powers abilities came back. Because the writers had unknowingly brought fictional elements into the real world, thus giving Prime his powers back.

But more to the point; maybe on Earth-Prime (here) there are others like Clark, like a guy named [[TheFlash Barry Allen]], a track star and loves lightning bolts, then theres there's [[SuperGirl Karen Kent]], who's Clarks Clark's cousin and a cheerleader who admires Supergirl/Powergirl. Next [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]], an emo orphan and Ideal Batman fan.with quite the will left by his parents. [[GreenLantern Harold Jordan]], a high school senior who loves the color green, wears alot of rings and wants to sign up for the air force. Then [[WonderWoman Diana Prince]], a bombshell feminist that was homeschooled in an all female community. Finally, you have [[Comicbook/TeenTitans Victor Stone]] A man with abunch a bunch of prosthetics, but their they're so high end, everyone calls him Cyborg.



There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) is a cop that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is a libarian. Black Manta is Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is secretly an assasin, but his public job is looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes, Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devestating the country, the Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals(they're still opposed to Hal, but they're neutral/good/whatever), the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a nearby church, the Indigo Tribe are a group of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers.

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There are villain counterparts. LexLuthor is a rival Jerkass nerd who bullied Superboy-Prime, Sinestro(what his name is, who knows) is a cop that's hard on Hal and Brainiac is a libarian. an misanthropic librarian. Black Manta is Arthur's rival in the program and Mary's former BastardBoyfriend, of whom she is with child. Slade Wilson is secretly an assasin, assassin, but his public job is looking after his darling Rose. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is a clown [[MonsterClown that scared the hell out of Bruce when he was a kid.]] As for the various Lantern Corps: The Red Lanterns are a group of vigilantes, vigilantes and are thus always clashing with Sinestro, Larfleeze is one of those CorruptCorporateExecutives devestating devastating the country, country with his 'corps' being his many, ''many'' , the Sinestro Corps are Sinestro's pals(they're still opposed to Hal, but they're neutral/good/whatever), the Green Lantern Corps the US Airforce, the Blue Lanterns are a nearby church, the Indigo Tribe are a group of stoners, the Star Sapphires are hookers.
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[[WMG: Relic's universe was in the Pre-Crisis Multiverse, and he somehow survivied the Crisis]]
In the upcoming Green Lantern story arc ''Lights Out'', the main antagonist, Relic, is from a universe prior to the Prime Earth universe. Kinda like Galactus - except it's hard to fit this whole 'another universe before the current DCnU' into DC's complicated continuity. So we must conclude that Relic's universe was in the original DC Multiverse, and Relic, through reasons unknown, managed to survive the wrath of the Anti-Monitor
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** Marvel & DCU were merged once in the mid 1990s (AmalgamUniverse) ''back when DCU had only one universe'' and the two were only kept apart by the being Access. 616 was thus Always an available multiverse.

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** Marvel & DCU were merged once in the mid 1990s (AmalgamUniverse) (ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse) ''back when DCU had only one universe'' and the two were only kept apart by the being Access. 616 was thus Always an available multiverse.
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[[WMG: It goes beyond that-CrisisOnInfiniteEarths represents baryogenesis.]]
The Anti-Monitor and Monitor embody antimatter and matter on a truly multiversal scale. The reason they exist at all is because, when looking at the dawn of time, [[GreenLantern Kro]][[BiggerBad na]] inadvertently recreated some of the initial conditions at its earliest moments(particles and antiparticles). [[TooDumbToLive He was lucky he only got the Crisis.]] The Anti-Monitor and Monitor would've been perfectly fine ruling their respective universes, but they ended up discovering each other's existence. [[UltimateBattleOfUltimateDestiny It was then on to prove who's type of matter would reign supreme]]: positive or negative. Neither side [[EvilVersusEvil was good]]: the battle between the two was us vs them on a cosmic scale. Particles and antiparticles must destroy each other when they collide, with the exception of Alex Luthor Jr. The Anti-Monitor stayed dead after the Crisis because there was only a single positive and negative universe left, and a huge margin of error to screw up and destroy his universe. [[OmnicidalManiac Destroyer he may be]], [[EvenEvilHasStandards but not of the team he's fighting for.]] [[SinestroCorpsWar When the new 52 universe showed up]], the Anti-Monitor was happy to see that the pestering InsignificantBluePlanet had done goofed and [[CosmicKeystone made themselves vital to the 52 multiverse]], meaning that it would be easy picking. [[BrightestDay Kidnapping the Entity]] was an attempt to rebuild the Antimatter Multiverse.

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** That's why it was trying to [[OmnicidalManiac to destroy the multiverse]]-with nothing existing of DC Comics, [[LogicalExtreme there's no continuity]] [[ContinuitySnarl to mess up]].

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** That's why it was trying to [[OmnicidalManiac to destroy the multiverse]]-with nothing existing of DC Comics, [[LogicalExtreme there's no continuity]] [[ContinuitySnarl to mess up]]. up]].

[[WMG: The shadow demons that attack the heroes at the end of the first issue are servants of the Monitor not the Anti-Monitor.]]
Unlike the shadow demons that are seen in the rest of the series, those ones were a lot stronger, the heroes could't harm them in any way even when three of them (Firestorm, Killer frost and Green Lantern) teamed-up against only one. In later issues they are destroyed fairly easy by the same powers that are useless here. Conversely, later shadow demons, despite being easily destroyed are a lot more dangerous because their touch burns their victims. The ones seen in the first issue wrestle with the heroes without causing them any permanent injuries. Finally they are easily send into hiding by the Monitor simply turning the lights on. Another thing to consider is that it seems unlikely that the Anti-Monitor could circumvent so easily the defenses of the Monitor sending his minions to his own house. One wonders how the Monitor and Lyla could survive for so long if this was the case.
I believe the Monitor created a small number of his own version of shadow demons so he could test the strenghts and weakeneses of the assembled heroes, without risking the danger of any of them suffering injuries that could made them useless for his plans.
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Due to his concern of the possibility of the Heartless reforming the Antimoniter and the potential dangers of the Nobodies and Unversed the moniter created the Access force as seen in MarvelVsDC and the Amalgalm universe. This did not go as planned as he was diverted from his purpose of watching over the Heartless and Nobodies by the interfereance of Dr. Strangefate from the Amalgalm Universe. So when that minor crisis was adverted he stripped Access of his power and reforged the power into the Keyblades and Gummivessels which he gifted upon the Land of Departure, a world of his own creation where he deposited those with worthy hearts who had lost worlds but survived the Crisis. This is where the series begins.

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* This would go to explain his [[StoryBreakerPower overpoweredness]]
** Superboy-Prime's powers are on the level of the Silver Age Superboy. Prime is most familiar to this Superboy, and since he thinks he is Superboy/Superman he copies his abilities.
** The red sun only has an effect because Prime thinks he's a Kryptonian, and all Kryptonians besides the Golden Age Superman are weakened by it.
** No Kryptonite weakness? Superboy-Prime is human, so something that only affects Kryptonians won't bother him. Element Lad didn't whip up Kryptonite to hurt him, but an actual radioactive material that exists in our world(plutonium, maybe). It just happened to look like kryptonite.
** Being unaffected by magic? Earth-Prime's laws of physics make magic impossible, thus Prime can NoSell magical attacks.

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* The OP is right, though he/she seems to forget that Superman's introduction in ''Man of Steel'' took place before CoIE in the timeline, though yes, he was less powerful and there was no Supergirl.
** The last time we see Superman, he and Power Girl are walking toward the Fortress of Solitude, and their posture suggests that they're "close" (i.e. inter-dimensional cousins)
** The last time we see Lex Luthor--granted, there was still an issue or two to go--we see Lex Luthor in prison being questioned by Batman & Robin, something that would be hard to believe in the post-Crisis universe.
** Speaking of Batman & Robin, the last time we see them, Mary Marvel is with them, and the caption suggests they're all thinking about people who died (in B&R's case, this must include the Earth-2 Robin and Huntress).
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* This may be confirmed in said fight with the Black Lanterns, Prime puts on a black ring. It says "Clark Kent of Earth-Prime: DIE!" As seen when it latched on to [[spoiler:Superman]], it gives the actual birth name of the individual-if Superboy Prime is really an alternate Superman, it would say "Kal-El of Earth-Prime" or "Kal-El of Krypton-Prime."

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