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* NamesTheSame: There were at least nine different bands named Mayhem worldwide that were making demos in the 80s. This lead to Norway's Mayhem to declare themselves "The True Mayhem", which they still use for websites, publicity, and their logo (the little scribbles over the Y and H).
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
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** There were at least nine different bands named Mayhem worldwide that were making demos in the 80s. This lead to Norway's Mayhem to declare themselves "The True Mayhem", which they still use for websites, publicity, and their logo (the little scribbles over the Y and H).
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
** There were at least nine different bands named Mayhem worldwide that were making demos in the 80s. This lead to Norway's Mayhem to declare themselves "The True Mayhem", which they still use for websites, publicity, and their logo (the little scribbles over the Y and H).
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
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* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Although Necrobutcher is credited for playing bass on ''Ordo ad Chao'', it's Blasphemer, who played it.
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were in fact, an actual couple. As for the sex, it wasn't fake.]]
* ShoutOut: Following the Reaper's demise, one of the infected workers could be heard dropping F-bombs ala Scarface from ''Film/HalfBaked''.
-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!
* ShoutOut: Following the Reaper's demise, one of the infected workers could be heard dropping F-bombs ala Scarface from ''Film/HalfBaked''.
-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!
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* CoitusEnsues: EnforcedMethodActing: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were in fact, an actual couple. As for the sex, it wasn't fake.]]
fake.
*ShoutOut: Following the Reaper's demise, one of the infected workers could be heard dropping F-bombs ala Scarface from ''Film/HalfBaked''.
-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!WhatCouldHaveBeen: Derek's surname was originally "Saunders", but it was changed to "Cho" presumably after Steven Yuen's casting.
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-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!
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This is one of the most disgusting misuses of What Could Have Been that I have ever seen. Are you actually troping a real-life murder attempt?
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.
** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.
**Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: For both Dead and Euronymous. The latter's death also originally terminated the band, until they reformed two years later.
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** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]]. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.
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** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]].himself. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]].Euronymous. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were in fact, an actual couple and the sex was indeed real.]]
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were in fact, an actual couple and couple. As for the sex was indeed real.sex, it wasn't fake.]]
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were an actual couple and the sex was indeed real.]]
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were in fact, an actual couple and the sex was indeed real.]]]]
* ShoutOut: Following the Reaper's demise, one of the infected workers could be heard dropping F-bombs ala Scarface from ''Film/HalfBaked''.
-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!
* ShoutOut: Following the Reaper's demise, one of the infected workers could be heard dropping F-bombs ala Scarface from ''Film/HalfBaked''.
-->'''Worker:''' Fuck you! Fuck you! Fuck you! You're cool! FUCK YOU!
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** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
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** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.years.
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* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were an actual couple and the sex was indeed real.]]
!! For the film:
* CoitusEnsues: During Derek Cho's video explaining the Reed case to the Nine and Towers, there are a pair of workers having sex in the background. [[EnforcedMethodActing The workers were an actual couple and the sex was indeed real.]]
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** There's vocalist Messiah, who performed on their first live show, but couldn't join the band on a permanent basis. He also appeared on two songs from their [=EP=] ''Deathcrush'' ("Pure Fucking Armageddon" and a [[CoverVersion cover]] of [[Music/{{Venom}} Venom's]] "Witching Hour"), but only because Maniac couldn't do them himself.
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** There's vocalist Messiah, who performed on their first live show, but couldn't join the band on a permanent basis. He also appeared on two songs from their [=EP=] ''Deathcrush'' ("Pure Fucking Armageddon" and a [[CoverVersion cover]] of [[Music/{{Venom}} Venom's]] "Witching Hour"), but only because Maniac couldn't do them himself. According to Necrobutcher, when Maniac left the band in 2004, Messiah asked to join, but was rejected.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.time.
** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
** Following the murder of Euronymous at the hand of Varg Vikernes, Hellhammer and returning bass guitarist Necrobutcher initially considered replacing Euronymous with Blackthorn (Snorre Ruch), who was rehearsing with the band during pre-production for De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas and also made some songwriting contributions to the album (though he did not play on the record itself). Ruch, however, was convicted as Vikernes's accomplice in the murder and was sentenced to eight years.
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** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]]. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.
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** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]]. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.it.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: Necrobutcher actually admitted in 2019 that he was travelling to Oslo to kill Euronymous by himself when he read a morning newspaper and found out Varg beat him to it. He also claims that the police had bugged Varg's phone and knew what he was going to do, but let him do it anyway so they could get rid of 2 key ringleaders in the black metal scene at the same time.
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* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
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* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Yes, ''De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious Sathanas'' had one of these]].these.
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** Necro Butcher is the name of a retired American professional wrestler.
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** Necro Butcher is the name of a retired American professional wrestler.
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* [[AbsenteeActor Absentee Musician]]: Although Necrobutcher is credited for playing bass on ''Ordo ad Chao'', it's Blasphemer, who played it.
* AuthorExistenceFailure: For both Dead and Euronymous. The latter's death also originally terminated the band, until they reformed two years later.
* AuthorExistenceFailure: For both Dead and Euronymous. The latter's death also originally terminated the band, until they reformed two years later.
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* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
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* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].these]].
** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]]. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.
** For a big general idea for those wondering: Lyrics were being written in 1987 by Dead and these songs would later be performed live, in particular the one at ''Live at Leipzig'' in 1990. [[AuthorExistenceFailure Then in 1991, Dead kills himself]]. [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill Via throat/wrist slitting and then shotgun to the head]]. Necrobutcher left afterwards when Euronymous took photos of Dead's body (which would later be used for the infamous ''Dawn of the Black Hearts'' bootleg). 1992 rolls around with recording beginning with newly recruited members Attila Csihar as vocals and [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]] on bass. The year later, [[AuthorExistenceFailure Vikernes murders Euronymous]]. 1994 comes in and drummer Hellhammer releases the album as it is (despite Euronymous's parents asking him to remove Vikernes's bass lines but not doing so). TroubledProduction ''doesn't even describe'' it.
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** When the band started, they actually also had a second guitarist named Per Nilsen.
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** When the band started, they actually also had a second guitarist named Per Nilsen.
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* ShortLivedBigImpact: Dead's only appearance on official Mayhem releases was on ''Live at Leipzig'' (and if you wanna go more in depth, the "single" for "Freezing Moon") but yet his presence lingers within the band and arguably all of second-wave black metal. Unfortunately as believed, his suicide kick-started the eventual dark moments of the scene, from the church burnings to Euronymous's eventual murder by [[Music/{{Burzum}} Varg Vikernes]].
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* GenrePopularizer: For black metal. Specifically speaking, Mayhem essentially started up second-wave black metal, but first-wave black metal covers a lot of bands that are totally dissimilar to Mayhem (Music/CelticFrost and [[Music/KingDiamond Mercyful Fate]], for example), and the actual black metal genre didn't really have a proper definition until Mayhem and co. came along. (It is worth noting, however, that many of the second wave's most important characteristics had already been established by Music/{{Bathory}}, particularly on ''Under the Sign of the Black Mark'').
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* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
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* ThePeteBest:
** There's vocalist Messiah, who performed on their first live show, but couldn't join the band on a permanent basis. He also appeared on two songs from their [=EP=] ''Deathcrush'' ("Pure Fucking Armageddon" and a [[CoverVersion cover]] of [[Music/{{Venom}} Venom's]] "Witching Hour"), but only because Maniac couldn't do them himself.
** Manheim is definitely nowhere near as remembered as Mayhem's drummer as Hellhammer is.
** Between the departure of Manheim and Maniac and arrival of Hellhammer and Dead, the band actually briefly had a drummer named Torben Grue and vocalist [[RepetitiveName Kittil Kittilsen]]. The latter would left the music industry completely around 2000, and is now a [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist christian]], who [[TheNewRockAndRoll denounces rock and metal music altogether]].
** When the band started, they actually also had a second guitarist named Per Nilsen.
* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
** There's vocalist Messiah, who performed on their first live show, but couldn't join the band on a permanent basis. He also appeared on two songs from their [=EP=] ''Deathcrush'' ("Pure Fucking Armageddon" and a [[CoverVersion cover]] of [[Music/{{Venom}} Venom's]] "Witching Hour"), but only because Maniac couldn't do them himself.
** Manheim is definitely nowhere near as remembered as Mayhem's drummer as Hellhammer is.
** Between the departure of Manheim and Maniac and arrival of Hellhammer and Dead, the band actually briefly had a drummer named Torben Grue and vocalist [[RepetitiveName Kittil Kittilsen]]. The latter would left the music industry completely around 2000, and is now a [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist christian]], who [[TheNewRockAndRoll denounces rock and metal music altogether]].
** When the band started, they actually also had a second guitarist named Per Nilsen.
* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
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* NamesTheSame: There were at least nine different bands named Mayhem worldwide that were making demos in the 80s. This lead to Norway's Mayhem to declare themselves "The True Mayhem", which they still use for websites, publicity, and their logo (the little scribbles over the Y and H).
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].
** On Website/YouTube, you will find two different artists named Mayhem; this band, and one of the many, many alias of electronic musician [[Creator/LapfoxTrax Renard]], represented by a shark girl dressed like a raver. The latter's videos have commentators confusing her for the former. Naturally, on sites where the two artists are combined onto one page, there are inevitable {{Flame War}}s.
* TroubledProduction: If you haven't guessed from reading the article on the main page yet: [[CaptainObvious Yes,]] ''[[CaptainObvious De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas]]'' [[CaptainObvious had one of these]].