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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops have shuttered on March 27th, 2023, meaning that the game, as well as its remake ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'', have become increasingly rare. To make matters worse, ''Gaiden'' itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.

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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops have shuttered on March 27th, 2023, meaning that the game, as well as its remake ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'', have become increasingly rare. To make matters worse, ''Gaiden'' itself has yet to be is one of the few Famicom games that haven't been ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
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* ActorAllusion: At one point in the remake, Jedah taunts Alm by paraphrasing [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]], another of Creator/RichardEpcar's roles. [[spoiler: Just swap "him" with "her" and "darkness" for "Duma."]]
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* NoExportForYou: In Japan, ''Echoes'' had a really... bizarre collaboration with the convenience store chain 7-Eleven, where by using the in-store 7-Spot wi-fi and reaching Act 3 of the game, players could obtain the Seven Sword and Eleven Shield, alongside one of six exclusive provisions from a character known as the Flashy Man. While they still exist in the game's code, they were never distributed internationally through legitimate means, especially when the event was still running at the time.
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* GodNeverSaidThat: Faye's BaseBreakingCharacter status led some fans to spread rumors of developer interviews confessing that [[HateSink she was written to be intentionally unlikable]], or that she was intentionally made that way to be a {{Deconstruction}} of the UnrequitedLove character archetype (like Catria). Actual developer comments were nothing of the sort, simply stating that she was added to give more gender diversity to Alm's initial party and to add a potentially interesting subplot to the game.

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* GodNeverSaidThat: Faye's BaseBreakingCharacter status led some fans to spread rumors of developer interviews confessing that [[HateSink she was written to be intentionally unlikable]], or that she was intentionally made that way to be a {{Deconstruction}} of the UnrequitedLove {{Unrequited Love|Tropes}} character archetype (like Catria). Actual developer comments were nothing of the sort, simply stating that she was added to give more gender diversity to Alm's initial party and to add a potentially interesting subplot to the game.
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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops have shuttered on March 31st, 2023, meaning that the game, as well as its remake ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'', have become increasingly rare. To make matters worse, ''Gaiden'' itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.

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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops have shuttered on March 31st, 27th, 2023, meaning that the game, as well as its remake ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'', have become increasingly rare. To make matters worse, ''Gaiden'' itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, as the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops are expected to close in March 2023, the virtual console ports of the game will fall victim to this as well. To make matters worse, the game itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
** Additionally, all of ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia's'' DLC packs, as well as the free Mila's Bounty DLC, won't be obtained anymore without hacking.

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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, as the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops are expected to close in have shuttered on March 31st, 2023, meaning that the virtual console ports game, as well as its remake ''Echoes: Shadows of the game will fall victim to this as well. Valentia'', have become increasingly rare. To make matters worse, the game ''Gaiden'' itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
** Additionally, all All of ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia's'' DLC packs, as well as the free Mila's Bounty DLC, won't be obtained anymore are completely unobtainable without hacking.
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* RelationshipVoiceActor:
** ''Many'' of the English cast members of ''VideoGame/Persona5'' play roles in this game: [[Creator/MaxMittelman Ryuji]] is Gray, [[Creator/RobbieDaymond Goro]] is Tobin, [[Creator/EricaLindbeck Futaba]] is ''Celica'' (of all people), [[Creator/CheramiLeigh Makoto]] is Mae, [[Creator/EdenRiegel Hifumi]] is Genny, [[Creator/KeithSilverstein Shido]] is Saber, [[Creator/KyleHebert Madarame]] is Valbar, [[Creator/KirkThornton the unnamed SIU Director]] is Nomah, [[Creator/ChristineMarieCabanos Shiho]] is Delthea, [[Creator/ChristopherCoreySmith Okumura]] is General Slayde, [[Creator/SeanChiplock Mishima]] is General Jerome, [[Creator/RichardEpcar Principal Kobayakawa]] is Jedah, and [[Creator/JamiesonPrice Sojiro]] is Emperor Rudolf. There's also ''VideoGame/Persona3'' being featured with [[Creator/GrantGeorge Shinjiro]] as Clive, and the recurring character [[Creator/DanWoren Igor]] as Desaix.
** We also have a similar overlap for the English cast of ''VideoGame/NierAutomata''[[note]]Funny enough, both games were localized by the same company.[[/note]]: [[Creator/KyleMcCarley 9S]] is Alm, [[Creator/CheramiLeigh A2]] is Mae, [[Creator/AlexisTipton Pascal]] is Clair and Palla, [[Creator/EricaLindbeck Anemone]] is Celica, [[Creator/EdenRiegel Devola and Popola]] is ([[WhichMe are?]]) Genny, Operator 21O is Catria, [[Creator/GregChun Adam]] is Lukas, [[Creator/RayChase Eve]] is Fernand, and [[Creator/DarinDePaul Terminal α and Terminal β]] is, fittingly, Duma.
** Also has overlaps with ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'': [[Creator/CristinaValenzuela Velvet]] is Tatiana, [[Creator/EricaLindbeck Magilou]] is Celica, Phi/Number Two is Faye, [[Creator/TaliesinJaffe Eizen]] is Massena, [[Creator/RayChase Artorius]] is Fernand, [[Creator/MaxMittelman Shigure]] is Gray, [[Creator/DarinDePaul Melchior]] is Duma, Kamoana is Silque, [[Creator/MonicaRial Seres and Bienfu]] are Mila, [[Creator/IanSinclair Zaveid]] is Berkut, and [[Creator/GregChun Prince Percival]] is Lukas.
** Alm is the second time Creator/KyleMcCarley and Creator/NatsukiHanae shared a role. The first being [[VideoGame/NierAutomata 9S]].
** The game has surprisingly quite a few overlaps with Manga/FullmetalAlchemist; [[Creator/ChrisPatton Kliff is Greed]], [[Creator/ChrisCason Forsyth is Gluttony]], [[Creator/CaitlinGlass Mathilda is Winry Rockbell]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Zeke is Sloth]], [[Creator/CheramiLeigh Mae is Elicia Hughes]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Valbar is Vato Falman]], and [[Creator/MonicaRial Mila is May Chang]].

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* CompanyCrossReferences:
** An interesting twist: Leo's name is translated to Leon for the English version of the remake. Make it the other way around, and you get [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates a Nohrian prince]]: Leo's the English name, Leon's the Japanese name.
** Similarly to the above example, Sonya is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden dark-haired magic unit with]] a NavelDeepNeckline, while Sonia is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade dark-haired magic unit with]] a NavelDeepNeckline.
** The name of one of the starting villagers in the Japanese version translates to Robin, which is also the English default name of the Avatar in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. The English version of ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'' changes it to Tobin.
** One mercenary is named Kamui, the default Japanese name of the Avatar from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. Since the ''Fates'' character was the one renamed in English, Gaiden Kamui retains his name across languages.
** The remake adds yet another villager. This one's named Effie which is also the English name for Elise's retainer in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. The English version has changed her name to Faye.
** Even the minor bosses get in on this. Garcia the enemy Cantor is not to be confused with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Garcia the playable Renais Fighter]], while Barth the enemy Brigand is not to be confused with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Barthe the playable Ostian Knight]].
%% ** As a trans-franchise example: new players who hear that "Saber" is in this game are likely to get very excited... and then very, very confused [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight at their expectations being a little off the mark]]. The characters not being remotely similar adds to the comedy value (as does the fact that, strictly speaking, Gaiden Saber is real-life older than the other Saber by more than a ''decade'').



* NamesTheSame:
** An interesting twist: Leo's name is translated to Leon for the English version of the remake. Make it the other way around, and you get [[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates a Nohrian prince]]: Leo's the English name, Leon's the Japanese name.
** Similarly to the above example, Sonya is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden dark-haired magic unit with]] a NavelDeepNeckline, while Sonia is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade dark-haired magic unit with]] a NavelDeepNeckline.
** The name of one of the starting villagers in the Japanese version translates to Robin, which is also the English default name of the Avatar in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. The English version of ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia'' changes it to Tobin.
** One mercenary is named Kamui, the default Japanese name of the Avatar from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. Since the ''Fates'' character was the one renamed in English, Gaiden Kamui retains his name across languages.
** The remake adds yet another villager. This one's named Effie which is also the English name for Elise's retainer in ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates''. The English version has changed her name to Faye.
** Even the minor bosses get in on this. Garcia the enemy Cantor is not to be confused with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones Garcia the playable Renais Fighter]], while Barth the enemy Brigand is not to be confused with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade Barthe the playable Ostian Knight]].
** As a trans-franchise example: new players who hear that "Saber" is in this game are likely to get very excited... and then very, very confused [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight at their expectations being a little off the mark]]. The characters not being remotely similar adds to the comedy value (as does the fact that, strictly speaking, Gaiden Saber is real-life older than the other Saber by more than a ''decade'').
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** Similarly to the above example, Sonya is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden dark-haired magic unit with]] AbsoluteCleavage, while Sonia is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade dark-haired magic unit with]] AbsoluteCleavage.

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** Similarly to the above example, Sonya is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden dark-haired magic unit with]] AbsoluteCleavage, a NavelDeepNeckline, while Sonia is a [[VideoGame/FireEmblemTheBlazingBlade dark-haired magic unit with]] AbsoluteCleavage.a NavelDeepNeckline.
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** The game has surprisingly quite a few overlaps with Manga/FullmetalAlchemist; [[Creator/ChrisPatton Kliff is Greed]], [[Creator/ChrisCason Forsyth is Gluttony]], [[Creator/CaitlinGlass Mathilda is Winry Rockbell]], [[Creator/PatrickSeitz Zeke is Sloth]], [[Creator/CheramiLeigh Mae is Elicia Hughes]], [[Creator/KyleHebert Valbar is Vato Falman]], and [[Creator/MonicaRial Mila is May Chang]].
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* FanNickname:
** As soon as [[http://imgur.com/a/GhODG Tatiana's Exemplar model]] was revealed, the fandom nicknamed her [[VideoGame/KidIcarus "Palutena"]].
** Alm's armor design in ''Gaiden'' is referred to as his "[[UnfortunateCharacterDesign Dong Armor]]" in some circles.
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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, as the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops are expected to close in March 2023, the virtual console ports of the game will fall victim to this as well. To make matters worse, the game itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight the original Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the HolyWar]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.

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** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, as the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops are expected to close in March 2023, the virtual console ports of the game will fall victim to this as well. To make matters worse, the game itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though the original ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight the original Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the HolyWar]]'', Holy War]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service, service in Japan, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
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* KeepCirculatingTheTapes:
** The Wii virtual console port of ''Gaiden'' has been unavailable for purchase since the Wii Shop Channel's closure in January 2019. However, as the Nintendo 3DS and Wii U eShops are expected to close in March 2023, the virtual console ports of the game will fall victim to this as well. To make matters worse, the game itself has yet to be ported onto the Nintendo Switch, even though ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemShadowDragonAndTheBladeOfLight the original Shadow Dragon]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemMysteryOfTheEmblem Mystery of the Emblem]]'', as well as ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGenealogyOfTheHolyWar Genealogy of the HolyWar]]'', are included as part of the Nintendo Switch Online subscription service, and the formermost game had a worldwide limited release on the console as well.
** Additionally, all of ''Echoes: Shadows of Valentia's'' DLC packs, as well as the free Mila's Bounty DLC, won't be obtained anymore without hacking.
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* ActorAllusion: At one point, Jedah taunts Alm by paraphrasing [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]], another of Creator/RichardEpcar's roles. [[spoiler: Just swap "Riku" with "Celica" and "darkness" for "Duma."]]

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* ActorAllusion: At one point, point in the remake, Jedah taunts Alm by paraphrasing [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]], another of Creator/RichardEpcar's roles. [[spoiler: Just swap "Riku" "him" with "Celica" "her" and "darkness" for "Duma."]]
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* ActorAllusion: At one point, Jedah taunts Alm by paraphrasing [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Ansem, Seeker of Darkness]], another of Creator/RichardEpcar's roles. [[spoiler: Just swap "Riku" with "Celica" and "darkness" for "Duma."]]
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* DummiedOut:
** Game files show that alcoholic items would have originally been consumable by characters over the age of twenty, with each character being assigned an age in their internal data. In-game the alcohol can only be offered to Mila statues to restore fatigue and Mila's Turnwheel, and the ages are never given.
** Several characters have mourning quotes for finishing a battle after Celica is killed, which, in the final version, is an instant game over, even after her party merges with Alm's.
** Some leftover voice clips imply that [[spoiler:Berkut]] was considered as a playable character.
** Similarly, [[spoiler:Fernand]] has some extra lines that imply he could've been a playable character, too. While it can partly be explained by [[spoiler:him being available in the Rise of the Deliverance DLC, the biggest example of this is a mourning clip for Clive.]]
** Celica has a set of voice clips for battle [[spoiler:as a Witch]], meaning there may have been plans for GameplayAndStoryIntegration in [[spoiler:Alm's battle against her, instead of just being a CutsceneBoss]].
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** Berkut has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mspd1l2w_zo a full set of quotes]] in ''Shadows of Valentia'''s files, indicating he was considered to become playable at one point in development. Fernand, while officially playable via DLC, also had a full set of quotes data mined before the DLC was released, indicating that he too was meant to be a fully playable character at some point in development.

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** Berkut has [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mspd1l2w_zo a full set of quotes]] in ''Shadows of Valentia'''s files, indicating he was considered to become playable at one point in development. Fernand, while officially playable via DLC, also had a full set of quotes data mined before the DLC was released, indicating that he too was likely meant to be a fully playable character at some point in development.
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** The developers considered adding modern Fire Emblem mechanics such as a customizable main character and Supports affecting relationships. They decided against this as such additions would complicate the plot more than necessary and it was better to keep it linear.

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** The developers considered adding modern Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' mechanics such as a customizable main character and Supports affecting relationships. They decided against this as such additions would complicate the plot more than necessary and it was better to keep it linear.

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