History Trivia / BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice

* AbilityOverAppearance: Mercy Graves was originally going to be white, and the studio wasn't looking at Asian actresses for the role. After Creator/ZackSnyder saw Tao Okamoto's performance in ''Film/TheWolverine'', he was impressed enough that he cast her as Mercy despite her lack of resemblance to the character.

* DVDCommentary: Zack Snyder made one for the Ultimate Edition in March 2020 during the [[UsefulNotes/CoronavirusDisease2019Pandemic COVID-19 pandemic]] lockdown, in the form of a watch-along. It can be watched [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogpQdKbt8iw here.]]

* CastTheRunnerUp: Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan was considered for Batman before being cast as Thomas Wayne.

** Gotham, Metropolis, and what appears to be Washington, D.C. were all filmed in Detroit,

* DVDCommentary: Zack Snyder made one for the Ultimate Edition in March 2020 during the [[UsefulNotes/CoronavirusDisease2019Pandemic COVID-19 pandemic]] lockdown, in the form of a watch-along. It can be watched [[https://youtu.be/ogpQdKbt8iw here]].

* DVDCommentary: There wasn't one for the home video release of either version. Zack Snyder eventually made one for the Ultimate Edition in March 2020, in the form of a watch-along. It can be watched [[https://youtu.be/ogpQdKbt8iw here]].

* DVDCommentary: There wasn't one for the home video release of either version. Zack Snyder eventually made one in March 2020, in the form of a watch-along. It can be watched [[https://youtu.be/ogpQdKbt8iw here]].

** Gotham, Metropolis, and what appears to be Washington, D.C. were all filmed in Detroit, Michigan.
* CreatorBacklash:
** [[http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/42866/affleck-s-reaction-to-dawn-of-justice-reviews By all accounts]], Creator/BenAffleck was upset over how the movie fared with critics and audiences, especially as he signed on in order to escape the stigma of having been in ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', leading to Warner Bros. giving Affleck an Executive Producer credit and more creative control over ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'', in addition to his involvement in directing of the upcoming Batman movie [though he later stepped down from directing the Batman film before leaving the DCEU all together]. That being said, a lot of critics and fans enjoyed Affleck's performance, they just didn't like the movie all together. Plus, Affleck clarified that he was proud of the final product, but later conceded that the criticisms towards the film's tonal issues were fair.

** In a [[https://www.squaremile.com/features/interview/henry-cavill-mission-impossible/ subsequent interview]] with ''Square Mile'', Cavill lamented the way the shared universe aspect of the film kept him from being able to play a more idealistic and inspirational Superman, which he had been looking forward to after ''Man of Steel''. He also claimed that had a ''Man of Steel'' sequel been made instead, he probably would've gotten to play that more traditional version of the character.

* MagnumOpusDissonance: Say what you will about the film, it's clear that Zack Snyder and co. put their heart and souls into it, and - if the infamous "Sad Affleck" is anything to go by - were pretty crushed by the reception.

** [[InvokedTrope Invoked]] by Snyder in regards to Jesse Eisenberg's casting as Lex Luthor. Eisenberg was originally offered the role of Jimmy Olsen but Snyder's wife and producer convinced him to cast him as Lex Luthor.
* PopCultureUrbanLegends: The dearth of details and long stretches of time in between snippets of official news have made this film a magnet for rumors uncritically accepted by both supporters and detractors as fuel for the flame wars.

* StarMakingRole: For Creator/GalGadot. While ''Film/TheFastAndTheFurious'' franchise did gave her screen debut for playing a supporting character, ''Batman V Superman'' boosted her career and got her into the spotlight.

* AbilityOverAppearance: Mercy Graves was originally going to be white, and the studio wasn't looking at Asian actresses for the role. After Creator/ZackSnyder saw Tao Okamoto's performance in ''Film/TheWolverine'', he was impressed enough that he cast her as Mercy despite her lack of resemblance to the character. Of course, in the end, her role was to kinda exist for a minute or two and then be blown up, so it matters little what she looks like.

* AbilityOverAppearance: Mercy Graves was originally going to be white, and the studio wasn't looking at Asian actresses for the role. After Creator/ZackSnyder saw Tao Okamoto's performance in ''Film/TheWolverine'', he was impressed enough that he cast her as Mercy despite her lack of resemblance to the character.

* BeamMeUpScotty: When talking about the movie people bring up the name "Martha" as though it was ArcWords in and of itself a la Rosebud from ''Film/CitizenKane'', or even something of a SkywardScream with Batman breaking down just from hearing that name. In reality [[spoiler: only one person says "Martha" by itself and that was Thomas Wayne's LastWords in the famous alley shooting (Although Lex did say "Martha, Martha, Martha" in a sing-song voice mocking Superman). In the (in)famous "Martha" scene Superman never says "Martha" singular, he is instead trying to give Batman information and instructions, "You're letting them kill Martha." "Save Martha." etc. The use of the name Martha ''in that context'' causes confusion and anger from Batman, until he learns Martha is also the name [[OneSteveLimit of Superman's mom]]. Batman also never says "Martha" singular, but he does say "Martha! Why did you say that name?!" when trying to figure out what Superman's talking about and later says "I promise you, Martha will not die tonight." So while the name Martha is an important revelation, it's never said with extreme reverence]].

*** For ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' fans, ''[[ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder Crazy Steve]] v [[ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd Bearded Idiot]]''. Somewhat amusingly, Linkara himself refers to the film as ''Crazy Steve v Greyman: [[Film/GodzillaMothraKingGhidorahGiantMonstersAllOutAttack Giant Monsters All-Out Attack]]''[[note]]noting that the only reasons he calls Superman "Greyman" instead of "Bearded Idiot" is a), due to how grey ''Film/ManOfSteel'' was, and b), Superman would need a beard in order to Bearded Idiot[[/note]].

** [[http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/42866/affleck-s-reaction-to-dawn-of-justice-reviews By all accounts]], Creator/BenAffleck was upset over how the movie fared with critics and audiences, especially as he signed on in order to escape the stigma of having been in ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'', leading to Warner Bros. giving Affleck an Executive Producer credit and more creative control over ''Film/JusticeLeague2017'', in addition to his involvement in the making of the upcoming Batman movie. That being said, a lot of critics and fans enjoyed Affleck's performance, they just didn't like the movie all together. Plus, Affleck clarified that he was proud of the final product, but later conceded that the criticisms towards the film's tonal issues were fair.

* WhatCouldHaveBeen: [[WhatCouldHaveBeen/DCExtendedUniverse Enough for its own page]]

* WhatCouldHaveBeen:
** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were offered the role of [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]] before Creator/BenAffleck was cast.
*** Creator/ScottAdkins [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynbnSykhV8I auditioned for the part of Bruce Wayne as well]]. When asked in an interview why he wasn't chosen, Adkins responded with this.
--->'''Adkins:''' Look, Ben Affleck was always going to have the part, all right? He's got [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Oscars.]]
*** Creator/LukeEvans, Creator/OrlandoBloom, and Creator/RichardArmitage were also considered for the role of Bruce Wayne before the casting of Affleck.
*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan stated that during the production of ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'', Creator/ZackSnyder expressed interest in adapting ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and casting him as Batman in the film. Morgan would go on to play Thomas Wayne in the movie, who coincidentally takes on the mantle of Batman in ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}''.
** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/TomHanks, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper, and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker Arthur Fleck]] in ''Film/Joker2019''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the part of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to play Niles Caulder in ''[[Series/DoomPatrol2019 Doom Patrol]]'' set within the Series/{{Titansverse}}.
** There were some executives at Creator/WarnerBros who wanted the movie to be a continuation of ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'', and discussed the idea of bringing back Creator/ChristianBale to play Batman. Snyder wanted to hire Bale to play a different DC character just to hammer home that the new movie was ''not'' connected to the earlier Creator/ChristopherNolan films.
** A planned appearance from Creator/JaredLeto as Comicbook/TheJoker was cut, as was a similar appearance from Comicbook/TheRiddler. Snyder ultimately decided against it because he thought it would take too much focus away from the main characters.
** Before settling on ''Film/SupermanReturns'' and ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Creator/WarnerBros considered making a Batman vs. Superman movie. A script was written by Akiva Goldsman (who also wrote ''Film/IAmLegend'', hence the film existing in that film's world), and Creator/WolfgangPetersen was attached as director. They wanted Creator/JoshHartnett for Superman and Creator/ChristianBale for Batman. Interestingly, said movie would have been '''significantly''' DarkerAndEdgier than the one that takes place in the Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse. It would have [[DownerBeginning started off]] with Bruce Wayne's fifth year of retirement following the deaths of Robin (Dick Grayson), Alfred Pennyworth, and Commissioner Gordon, and Clark Kent recovering from a devastating divorce with Lois Lane, reuniting with old flame Lana Lang. Bruce marries his fiance (with Clark serving as the best man), but she is mercilessly murdered by the Joker. Bruce becomes Batman once more to defeat both Joker ''and'' Superman, blaming him for his inability to save his fiance's life. It's eventually revealed, after a long battle between Batman and Superman, that Lex Luthor masterminded the entire plot. The two team up and take down Joker and Luthor.
** The movie was originally going to be a true sequel to ''Man of Steel'' that just happened to guest-star Batman in a major role. The inclusion of Batman convinced Snyder to begin fleshing out TheVerse a bit more by including Wonder Woman, which then led to other members of the League showing up as well. After this, it was decided that the most "logical" course of action would be to use ''Dawn of Justice'' as a lead-in for a Justice League movie.
** Metallo was considered to be the villain, before Batman and Wonder Woman were brought in. The character of Wallace Keefe is most likely an artifact of that concept.
** Had Zack Snyder not stepped down from the DCEU after his daughter committed suicide, it would've eventually been revealed that [[spoiler: the dead Robin we see in the movie was ''Dick Grayson'', not Jason Todd, in arguably the biggest diversion from the comics[[note]]in the comics, it's Jason Todd that gets killed by the Joker. His death drastically affects Batman, to the point that it wasn't until the third Robin, Tim Drake, took up the mantle that Batman was able to recover, with Drake's help[[/note]]. [[https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/justice-league-zack-snyder-robin-dceu His plan]] would've had Robin stay dead until the debut of Carrie Kelly, the fourth Robin (and the first female one). Whether or not this means that Carrie Kelly would've been the only other Robin that would appear, or if the other 3 Robins (Jason Todd, Tim Drake, Damian Wayne[[note]]Stephanie Brown the execs at DC reportedly hate[[/note]]) would appear but not ''as'' Robin is unknown]].

** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper, and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to portray [[Comicbook/TheJoker The Joker]] in ''Film/Joker2019''.

* BeamMeUpScotty: When talking about the movie people bring up the name "Martha" as though it was ArcWords in and of itself a la Rosebud from ''Film/CitizenKane'', or even something of a SkywardScream with Batman breaking down just from hearing that name. In reality [[spoiler: only one person says "Martha" by itself and that was Thomas Wayne's LastWords in the famous alley shooting (Although Lex did say "Martha, Martha, Martha" in a sing-song voice mocking Superman). In the (in)famous "Martha" scene Superman never says "Martha" singular, he is instead trying to give Batman information and instructions, "You're letting them kill Martha." "Save Martha." etc. The use of the name Martha ''in that context'' causes confusion and anger from Batman, until he learns Martha is also the name [[OneSteveLimit of Superman's mom]]. Batman also never says "Martha" singular, but later says "I promise you, Martha will not die tonight." So while the name Martha is an important revelation, it's never said with extreme reverence]].

** Before settling on ''Film/SupermanReturns'' and ''Film/BatmanBegins'', Creator/WarnerBros considered making a Batman vs. Superman movie. A script was written by Akiva Goldsman (who also wrote ''Film/IAmLegend'', hence the film existing in that film's world), and Creator/WolfgangPetersen was attached as director. They wanted Creator/JoshHartnett for Superman and Creator/ChristianBale for Batman. Interestingly, said movie would have been '''significantly''' DarkerAndEdgier than the one that takes place in the Franchise/DCCinematicUniverse. It would have [[DownerBeginning started off]] with Bruce Wayne's fifth year of retirement following the deaths of Robin (Dick Grayson), Alfred Pennyworth, and Commissioner Gordon, and Clark Kent recovering from a devastating divorce with Lois Lane, reuniting with old flame Lana Lang. Bruce marries his fiance (with Clark serving as the best man), but she is mercilessly murdered by the Joker. Bruce becomes Batman once more to defeat both Joker ''and'' Superman, blaming him for his inability to save his fiance's life. It's eventually revealed, after a long battle between Batman and Superman, that Lex Luthor masterminded the entire plot. The two team up and take down Joker and Luthor.

* GenreKiller: This film's underperformance, together with the critical and financial failure of ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' (both films were criticized for being needlessly dark purely for the sake of being dark) appears to have caused a decline in the trend of making DarkerAndEdgier superhero movies [[FollowTheLeader that are clearly inspired by]] ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'''s own dark approach, with two subsequent DCEU movies being reworked to be LighterAndSofter and all later ones taking a more lighthearted approach to adapting their source material, excluding films that adapted source material which itself was DarkerAndEdgier (i.e., Film/{{Logan}}).

* RoleReprisal: Arturo Castañeda and Máté Szabó, the respective Mexican and Hungarian voices of ComicBook/TheFlash in this movie, is also currently voicing the character in [[Series/TheFlash2014 the (second) live-action TV series]].

** Creator/JoshBrolin and Creator/JonHamm were both offered the role of [[ComicBook/{{Batman}} Bruce Wayne]] before Creator/BenAffleck was cast. Brolin would later go on to portray ComicBook/{{Thanos}} in the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse '''and''' ComicBook/{{Cable}} in the Film/XMenFilmSeries.

** While promoting ''Justice League'', Gal Gadot said that in hindsight, she didn't feel Diana would ever turn her back on mankind. She went on to say that the solo ''Film/WonderWoman'' movie "correct[ed]" that point by showing how loving and compassionate Diana truly is.

** [[https://www.inverse.com/article/29179-hans-zimmer-quit-superhero-scores-batman-masterclass In an interview]] with ''Inverse'', composer Music/HansZimmer said that his dissatisfaction with the film, particularly in its portrayal of Batman, led to him taking a temporary hiatus from writing music for superhero films.

* GenreKiller: This film's underperformance, together with the critical and financial failure of ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' (both films were criticized for being needlessly dark purely for the sake of being dark) appears to have caused a decline in the trend of making DarkerAndEdgier superhero movies [[FollowTheLeader that are clearly inspired by]] ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'''s own dark approach, with two subsequent DCEU movies being reworked to be LighterAndSofter and all later ones taking a more lighthearted approach to adapting their source material.

** There were some executives at Creator/WarnerBros who wanted the movie to be a continuation of ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', and discussed the idea of bringing back Creator/ChristianBale to play Batman. Snyder wanted to hire Bale to play a different DC character just to hammer home that the new movie was ''not'' connected to the earlier Creator/ChristopherNolan films.

*** For ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' fans, ''[[ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder Crazy Steve]] v [[ComicBook/SupermanAtEarthsEnd Bearded Idiot]]''

* UrbanLegends: The dearth of details and long stretches of time in between snippets of official news have made this film a magnet for rumors uncritically accepted by both supporters and detractors as fuel for the flame wars.

* RecycledScript: Though it's bound to happen when David S. Goyer wrote both movies, a common criticism is that too much of the film (especially the Batman side of things) is similar to ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' - as both films take influence from ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', this complain likely would've happened regardless of who wrote it.

** Creator/AdamDriver, Creator/MattDamon, Creator/JeanDujardin, Creator/BradleyCooper, and Creator/JoaquinPhoenix were considered for Comicbook/LexLuthor before the casting of Creator/JesseEisenberg. Phoenix would eventually go on to play [[Comicbook/TheJoker The Joker]] in ''Film/Joker2019''.
** Creator/TimothyDalton was considered for the part of Alfred Pennyworth before Creator/JeremyIrons was cast. Dalton would later go on to portray Niles Caulder in ''[[Series/DoomPatrol2019 Doom Patrol]]'' set within the Series/{{Titansverse}}.

*** Creator/ScottAdkins auditioned for the part of Bruce Wayne as well. When asked in an interview why he wasn't chosen, Adkins responded with this.

*** Creator/JeffreyDeanMorgan said that when ''Film/{{Watchmen}}'' came out, Creator/ZackSnyder overtly mentioned wanting to adapt ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and cast him as the older Batman. While the comic ends up informing a lot of the direction of the film, Morgan ended up playing Thomas Wayne, Bruce's father. In a little bit of "what could still be," in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' story arc depicting a radically altered DC Universe via ForWantOfANail, Thomas Wayne was Batman after young Bruce died in that fateful alley. Should the Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse ever decide to explore that story arc, Morgan may end up playing Batman yet.

** There were some executives at WB who wanted the movie to be a continuation of ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'', and discussed the idea of bringing back Creator/ChristianBale to play Batman. Snyder wanted to hire Bale to play a different DC character just to hammer home that the new movie was ''not'' connected to the earlier Creator/ChristopherNolan films.
** A planned appearance from Creator/JaredLeto as Comicbook/TheJoker was cut, as was a similar appearance from Comicbook/TheRiddler. Snyder ultimately decided against it because he thought it would take too much focus away from the main characters.

* UnintentionalPeriodPiece: While using a real life figure AsHimself typically has this effect, the Ultimate Edition includes a short political commentary by Creator/JonStewart. The thing is, the movie was originally intended for release in May 2015, but was delayed to March 2016 (to avoid competition with ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron'' and to give more lead time to build the film franchise) and so [[TheShelfOfMovieLanguishment post production was unusually long for the film]]. Stewart had left ''Series/TheDailyShow'' in August of 2015, meaning he hadn't been the host of the show for 6 months by the time the movie was released.