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Names The Same is no longer a trope
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* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria. [[spoiler:Voyager is actually the Grandmaster’s daughter]].
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* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria.
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* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria. [[spoiler:Voyager is actually the Grandmaster’s daughter]].
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended. Part 11 actually mentioned how many people suggested Valeria Richards, Kobik, Ayesha/Her and Jarvis before her real identity was revealed.
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended. Part 11 actually mentioned how many people suggested Valeria Richards (as shown below), Kobik, Ayesha/Her and [[OneOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Jarvis]] before her real identity was revealed.
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended. Part 11 actually mentioned how many people suggested Valeria Richards (as shown below), Richards, Kobik, Ayesha/Her and [[OneOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Jarvis]] Jarvis before her real identity was revealed.
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* ThrowItIn: Per the editorial pages, both "Mentacle" and "pyramoid" were silly placeholder names that were eventually retained because [[NarmCharm the team decided to embrace it]].
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They meant "crossover events" and so far, both No Surrender and Infinity Countdown have refrained from having any crossovers into other comics. So no, they weren't lying.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic... Until they announced an event series to tie in with the release of ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', which made it clear that Marvel's model wasn't actually changing all that much.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: According to the editorial page in issue 687, Voyager was originally going to be called Legacy.
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended. Part 11 actually mentioned how many people suggested Valeria Richards (as shown below), Kobik, Ayesha/Her and [[OneOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOther [[OneOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Jarvis]] before her real identity was revealed.
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* OutOfOrder: The last five issues were released after [[ComicBook/Thor2014 The Mighty Thor]] #705, but are clearly set before it... [[spoiler:because Thor dies in that issue.]]
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended. Part 11 actually mentioned how many people suggested Valeria Richards (as shown below), Kobik, Ayesha/Her and [[OneOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOther Jarvis]] before her real identity was revealed.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic... Until they announced an event series to tie in with the release of ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic... Until they announced an event series to tie in with the release of ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''.''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'', which made it clear that Marvel's model wasn't actually changing all that much.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic.comic... Until they announced an event series to tie in with the release of ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar''.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The writers have realized that fans are kinda-sorta tired of the whole "event" idea and have worked it so that it is confined to one title with no tie-ins, one-shots, prologues, epilogues and the like.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series. Of course, they may have meant "crossover events" instead of events pertaining to only one comic.
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* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria.
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* LyingCreator: Marvel previously stated that with ''Legacy'', they'd be de-emphasizing event comics... Yet shortly after that relaunch comes yet another event series.
* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displacedValeria.Valeria.
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* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The writers have realized that fans are kinda-sorta tired of the whole "event" idea and have worked it so that it is confined to one title with no tie-ins, one-shots, prologues, epilogues and the like.
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended.ended.
* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria.
* NamesTheSame: Almost, concerning Voyager, whose real name is Valerie Vector. A lot of fans have suggested that that's pretty similar to Valeria Victor - as in Valeria Richards and her Godfather and "Uncle" Victor von Doom - and that she may actually be a time displaced Valeria.
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* {{Jossed}}: During an interview talking about the story, editor Tom Brevoot already dismissed the idea of Voyager actually being Kobik. However, some people are already calling LyingCreator due to how ''ComicBook/SecretEmpire'' ended.
