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* [=LaMarr's=] childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that [=LaMarr=] was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
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* [=LaMarr's=] childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that [=LaMarr=] was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
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* LaMarr's childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that LaMarr was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, and LaMarr signed off on it without hesitation. They at least look ashamed when LaMarr calls them out on it.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, and LaMarr signed off on it without hesitation. They at least look ashamed when LaMarr calls them out on it.
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* LaMarr's [=LaMarr's=] childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that LaMarr [=LaMarr=] was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, andLaMarr [=LaMarr=] signed off on it without hesitation. They at least look ashamed when LaMarr [=LaMarr=] calls them out on it.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, and
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* LaMarr's childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that LaMarr was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, and LaMarr signed off on it without hesitation. They at least look ashamed when LaMarr calls them out on it.
* LaMarr's childhood was pretty rough. As he explains, growing up on as a bright kid in a colony with mostly farmers led to people looking down on him. Likely meaning, that LaMarr was [[KidsAreCruel bulled by the other children]] around him. Which sadly led to him deciding to simply [[ObfuscatingStupidity hide his intelligence]] rather than embrace it. No doubt many people who have experienced bullying as a child can relate.
* Watching the engineering team for blame Yaphit, insulting him behind his back for the quantum bubble instability. Even though his idea seemed reasonable at the time, and LaMarr signed off on it without hesitation. They at least look ashamed when LaMarr calls them out on it.
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* Kaylon Primary's realization that the Kaylon have been wrong in their belief that all organic life would act like their creators, seeking to subjugate and enslave them. Everything the Kaylon have done has been from the fear of being enslaved again, and it is only Charly's sacrifice that convinces them that humans (and their Union allies) do not seek to do so. The Kaylon were so scared of enslavement that they felt ''genocide'' was better than taking the risk that any race would attempt to do so.
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** Worse yet, his death resulted in the Union finding out what Teleya had wanted to keep secret, so she only delayed the realization by a few hours, at most.
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* While also a major case of NightmareFuel, the fact that the mutations Admiral Christie and several of the ''Orville'' crew were subjected to appear to be irreversible. It's all rather tragic when one remembers that none of those people ''asked'' to be [[PainfulTransformation painfully transformed]] into vicious and ferocious spider-like creatures hellbent on harming their fellow crewmembers.
* While also a major case of NightmareFuel, the fact that the mutations Admiral Christie and several of the ''Orville'' crew were subjected to appear to be irreversible. It's all rather tragic when one remembers that none of those people ''asked'' to be [[PainfulTransformation painfully transformed]] into vicious and ferocious spider-like creatures hellbent on harming their fellow crewmembers.
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* Pretty much the entire BadFuture where the Kaylons have conquered the galaxy. [[KillEmAll All life on Earth is utterly obliterated.]] [[CallBack Including fishes.]]
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* Pretty much the entire BadFuture where the Kaylons have conquered the galaxy. [[KillEmAll All life on Earth is utterly obliterated.]] obliterated. [[CallBack Including fishes.]]
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[[caption-width-right:350:''"All he wanted was love. And yet because of you, his life is over. For no reason, except your own prejudice."'']]
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* The final scene. Klyden thanks Talla for clearing his name after Locar was seemingly murdered. But what really wound up happening in the end was Locar getting dragged to Moclan court after being outed as a heterosexual, and Talla makes it ''brutally'' clear that [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech this is Klyden's fault]]. And after she's left alone in the room, Talla just starts [[CryCute weeping]] over everything that happened.
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* The final scene. Klyden thanks Talla for clearing his name after Locar was seemingly murdered. But what really wound up happening in the end was Locar getting dragged to Moclan court after being outed as a heterosexual, and Talla makes it ''brutally'' clear that [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech this is Klyden's fault]]. And after she's left alone in the room, Talla just starts [[CryCute weeping]] weeping over everything that happened.
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* [[FaceHeelTurn Admiral Perry's]] death, while stealing the anti-Kaylon weapon was horribly misguided. It is made clear that he was not a power-hungry man. He only wished to protect the Union and all its citizens. He was planning on willingly turning himself in for punishment. Which makes Teleya promptly blowing his ship to bits after he gave her the weapon all the more tragic.
* [[AlasPoorVillain Dalak]], the Krill captain who had previously led the fleet against the Kaylon attacking Earth, is killed during the battle with the now allied Union and Kaylon fleets.
* [[AlasPoorVillain Dalak]], the Krill captain who had previously led the fleet against the Kaylon attacking Earth, is killed during the battle with the now allied Union and Kaylon fleets.
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* Charly's funeral as Isaac gives as warm an eulogy as he can and stating that her death can be "the first domino" toward a better future with the Kaylon.
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* Charly's funeral as Isaac gives as warm an a eulogy as he can and stating that her death can be "the first domino" toward a better future with the Kaylon.
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* Young!Kelly resign with her fate, as Claire erases the memory of her visit to the future.
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* Young!Kelly resign with her fate, as Claire erases the memory of her visit to the future.future to restore the original timeline.
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* During Gordon's wedding song at the end, the camera pans down for a last shot of Yaphit, giving viewers one last chance to say goodbye to Creator/NormMacDonald and the character he gave a voice to.
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* Ultimately, Lysella decides to go back...and then the detector on the shuttle she's taking buzzes, and Talla finds a comscanner stuffed full of technical specifications for the tech that Lysella wanted most to bring home. Kelly and Talla are both clearly disappointed in her for betraying their trust, though Talla notes that she at least didn't try to steal any weapons specs. A frustrated Lysella pleads with them, saying that she can help her people do things the right way, and Kelly finally decides to show her why she can't let this happen. She takes Lysella to the simulator and calls up a simulation of Gendel III, circa 2235. She explains that Gendel was a divided world, with nuclear-armed nation states glaring at each other across their borders. When early Union explorers reached the planet, they tried to fix Gendel's problems by revealing themselves and freely offering them their advanced tech. [[GoneHorriblyWrong It backfired, horribly; the planet tore itself apart as everyone fought over the Union's technology, trying to use it for personal advantage or political gain]]. By 2240, Gendel III was reduced to an irradiated cinder, inhabited by a handful of half-feral survivors.
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* Ultimately, Lysella decides to go back...and then the detector on the shuttle she's taking buzzes, and Talla finds a comscanner stuffed full of technical specifications for the tech that Lysella wanted most to bring home. Kelly and Talla are both clearly disappointed in her for betraying their trust, though Talla notes that she at least didn't try to steal any weapons specs.trust. A frustrated Lysella pleads with them, saying that she can help her people do things the right way, and Kelly finally decides to show her why she can't let this happen. She takes Lysella to the simulator and calls up a simulation recreation of the planet Gendel III, circa 2235. She explains that Gendel was a divided world, with nuclear-armed nation states nation-states glaring at each other across their borders. When early Union explorers reached the planet, they tried to fix Gendel's problems by revealing themselves and freely offering them their advanced tech. technology. [[GoneHorriblyWrong It backfired, backfired horribly; the planet tore itself apart as everyone fought over the Union's technology, trying to use it for personal advantage or political gain]]. By 2240, Gendel III was reduced to an irradiated cinder, inhabited by a handful of half-feral survivors.
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** She winds up by telling Lysella that she can still go home if she wants, but that she won't be able to help her people if she does; anything she gives them is liable to be as misused and exploited as their voting system, with potentially catastrophic results. Lysella realizes she's right and decides to stay on the ship, knowing it's hard but, as bad as her world is now, it could become worse if she goes back with what she knows.
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** She winds up by telling Lysella that she can still go home if she wants, but that she won't be able to help her people if she does; anything she gives them is liable to be as misused and exploited as their voting system, with potentially catastrophic results. Lysella realizes she's right and [[IChooseToStay decides to stay on the ship, ship]], knowing it's hard but, as bad as her world is now, it could become worse if she goes back with what she knows. knows.
** It gets worse when one considers that Kelly is probably remembering her own experience with cultural contamination back in "Mad Idolatry". All she tried to do was help by healing an injured little girl, and in turn the people of Kandar-1 created an entire religion around her, complete with holy wars, heretics being executed and hung on stakes, and a justice system that consisted of criminals having their wrists cut to see if she would come heal them. This isn't an abstract question to Kelly, but something very painful and personal, and she doesn't want Lysella to go down the same road she did.
** It gets worse when one considers that Kelly is probably remembering her own experience with cultural contamination back in "Mad Idolatry". All she tried to do was help by healing an injured little girl, and in turn the people of Kandar-1 created an entire religion around her, complete with holy wars, heretics being executed and hung on stakes, and a justice system that consisted of criminals having their wrists cut to see if she would come heal them. This isn't an abstract question to Kelly, but something very painful and personal, and she doesn't want Lysella to go down the same road she did.
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** She winds up by telling Lysella that she can still go home if she wants, but that she won't be able to help her people if she does; anything she gives them is liable to be as misused and exploited as their voting system, with potentially catastrophic results.
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