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** Every single reference to the [[Series/Batman1966 '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...

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** Every single reference to the [[Series/Batman1966 '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest Creator/AdamWest at age 88...
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** Every single reference to the [[Series/{{Batman}} '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...

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** Every single reference to the [[Series/{{Batman}} [[Series/Batman1966 '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...
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* The ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' version of the Joker's story of [[https://i.redd.it/d6vsquli820z.jpg killing Batman]] by injecting him with a massive overdose of Joker venom using a gigantic hypodermic. Batman gives him a variation of the same retort he did in the classic story.

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* The ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' version of the Joker's story of [[https://i.redd.it/d6vsquli820z.jpg killing Batman]] by injecting him with a massive overdose of Joker venom using a gigantic hypodermic.hypodermic needle. Batman gives him a variation of the same retort he did in the classic story.
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* The Joker's story of [[https://i.redd.it/d6vsquli820z.jpg killing Batman]] by injecting him with a massive overdose of Joker venom using a gigantic hypodermic.

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* The ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'' version of the Joker's story of [[https://i.redd.it/d6vsquli820z.jpg killing Batman]] by injecting him with a massive overdose of Joker venom using a gigantic hypodermic. Batman gives him a variation of the same retort he did in the classic story.
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** For added poignancy, the Deluxe Addition features the short "When Is A Door", where Riddler's lament about the shift from the Silver Age to the Iron Age (featured on the Tearjerker/{{Batman}} page) just meshes perfectly with the above.

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Although "When is a Door" was reprinted in the same volume as "Whatever Happened", it's not part of that story. And it's already listed on the TearJerker.Batman page.


* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A TV crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old Riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.[[note]]The speech is also a lamentation of fans who grew up watching the 1960's ''Series/{{Batman}}'' show.[[/note]]
-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head. Hoo Hoo. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun. They were the straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not really. Nobody died. You look around these days -- [[DarkerAndEdgier It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake!]] [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?]]"
** And later:
-->'''Reporter''': "So tell us, what's the most impressive crime you've ever committed?"
-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.
** Hell, The Riddler during the main eulogy actually had a deep and saddening line concerning Batman's death. reminding us that most Batman villains really are still human...

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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A TV crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old Riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.[[note]]The speech is also a lamentation of fans who grew up watching the 1960's ''Series/{{Batman}}'' show.[[/note]]
-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head. Hoo Hoo. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun. They were the straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not really. Nobody died. You look around these days -- [[DarkerAndEdgier It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake!]] [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?]]"
** And later:
-->'''Reporter''': "So tell us, what's the most impressive crime you've ever committed?"
-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.
** Hell,
The Riddler during the main eulogy actually had a deep and saddening line concerning Batman's death. reminding us that most Batman villains really are still human...
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'''Joker:''' And, after too long, he went down. He ''died''. But he ''[[{{Determinator still]]'' didn't smile. And he was ''right''. It ''wasn't'' funny. But it ''should'' have been...

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'''Joker:''' And, after too long, he went down. He ''died''. But he ''[[{{Determinator ''[[{{Determinator}} still]]'' didn't smile. And he was ''right''. It ''wasn't'' funny. But it ''should'' have been...
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** Every single reference to the [[Series/{{Batman}} '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...

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** Every single reference to the [[Series/{{Batman}} '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...88...
* The Joker's story of [[https://i.redd.it/d6vsquli820z.jpg killing Batman]] by injecting him with a massive overdose of Joker venom using a gigantic hypodermic.
-->'''Joker:''' And I screamed -- "Smile, damn you, why don't you smile? You've got enough Joker venom to finish off a regiment of elephants. Why don't you smile? [[WhyWontYouDie Why don't you die?]]"\\
'''Batman:''' "Because it's not ''funny''."\\
'''Joker:''' And, after too long, he went down. He ''died''. But he ''[[{{Determinator still]]'' didn't smile. And he was ''right''. It ''wasn't'' funny. But it ''should'' have been...
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-->'''Riddler''': "It doesn't happen like this! Everybody knows, you put him in a death trap, he pulls something outta his utility belt and he's away. Same bat time, same bat channel."

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-->'''Riddler''': "It doesn't happen like this! Everybody knows, you put him in a death trap, he pulls something outta his utility belt and he's away. Same bat time, same bat channel.""
** Every single reference to the [[Series/{{Batman}} '66 TV series]] has become about a thousand times sadder with the death of AdamWest at age 88...
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* Bruce's mother telling him that the only reward he gets for being Batman, is to be Batman again, and worse, he only gets to have a few years of happiness.
* "Goodbye, moon."

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* [[spoiler: Bruce's mother telling him that the only reward he gets for being Batman, is to be Batman again, and worse, he only gets to have a few years of happiness.
happiness.]]
* "Goodbye, [[spoiler:"Goodbye, moon.""]]



* "Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]

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* "Hello, [[spoiler:"Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]]]]]
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* Harvey Bullock's story has Batman tossing him a baby just before he's drowned by tsunami-like floodwater.
-->'''Bullock:''' I made it out of there, carrying the baby. And people said to me, "How do you keep going?" I said, "Because ''he'' kept going."
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[[caption-width-right:350:The price of ChronicHeroSyndrome.]]
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* The way Clayface's expression becomes sorrowful when recalling how Batman sacrificed his life to save him. Being made of moldable clay, his entire ''face'' slumps, when recalling Batman told him ''everyone'' deserved to be saved. You can tell the entire episode rocked him to his core.

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* The way Clayface's [[https://m0vie.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/whateverhappenedtothecapedcrusader.jpg expression becomes sorrowful sorrowful]] when recalling how Batman sacrificed his life to save him. Being made of moldable clay, his entire ''face'' slumps, when recalling Batman told him ''everyone'' deserved to be saved. You can tell the entire episode rocked him to his core.
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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.

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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.me.
** Hell, The Riddler during the main eulogy actually had a deep and saddening line concerning Batman's death. reminding us that most Batman villains really are still human...
-->'''Riddler''': "It doesn't happen like this! Everybody knows, you put him in a death trap, he pulls something outta his utility belt and he's away. Same bat time, same bat channel."
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* The way Clayface's expression becomes sorrowful when Batman sacrifices his life to save him. Being made of moldable clay, his entire ''face'' slumps, when recalling Batman told him ''everyone'' deserved to be saved. You can tell the entire episode rocked him to his core.

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* The way Clayface's expression becomes sorrowful when recalling how Batman sacrifices sacrificed his life to save him. Being made of moldable clay, his entire ''face'' slumps, when recalling Batman told him ''everyone'' deserved to be saved. You can tell the entire episode rocked him to his core.

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** "Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]

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** * Superman's story of Batman's death, and that he knew it was suicide, but if it saved ''one'' person...
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"Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]
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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A TV crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old Riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.

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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A TV crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old Riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.[[note]]The speech is also a lamentation of fans who grew up watching the 1960's ''Series/{{Batman}}'' show.[[/note]]
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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head. Hoo Hoo. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun. They were the straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not really. Nobody died. You look around these days -- It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"

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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head. Hoo Hoo. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun. They were the straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not really. Nobody died. You look around these days -- [[DarkerAndEdgier It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Sake!]] [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"rules?]]"
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* Selina's version has her betray Bruce. When Batman comes to her for help, having already lost a lot of blood, Selina ties him up and lets him bleed out completely. As he does, she explains it as a MercyKill since she can't stand watching him destroy himself. One of the few times Catwoman is shown to kill, and it's ''Batman.''
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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.]]

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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. ...Nobody but me.]]
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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ...Nobody but me.]]

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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the guns fired, the camera's cameras took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... ...Nobody but me.]]
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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"

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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Head. Hoo Hoo]]. Hoo. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. fun. They were the Straight straight men, but we were the stars. No one ever hurt anybody. Not Really. really. Nobody Died. died. You look around these days - - -- It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"
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** And Later

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** And Laterlater:



-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the funs fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... Nobody but me.]]

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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, they all worked perfectly, the funs guns fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... Nobody but me.]]
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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A tv crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.

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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A tv TV crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old riddler Riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.
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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A tv crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent hs own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.

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* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A tv crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent hs his own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.
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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, tey all worked perfectly, the funs fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... Nobody but me.]]

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-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, tey they all worked perfectly, the funs fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... Nobody but me.]]
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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one Ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"

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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one Ever ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"

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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one Ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?

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-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one Ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?rules?"
** And Later
-->'''Reporter''': "So tell us, what's the most impressive crime you've ever committed?"
-->'''Riddler''': "I robbed a bank underwater, once. The clue for that was left on a giant crossword puzzle on the side of the cross cleaning company building. They tore it down, years ago, I think it's in here somewhere. None of this stuff works any more. They're all rusted up and forgotten. You know what they call them now? Camp, Kitsch, Corny... Dumb... ...Stupid. Well, I loved them -- they were part of my childhood. Back then, tey all worked perfectly, the funs fired, the camera's took pictures, the pencils wrote. Nobody comes down here anymore. [[subscript: ... Nobody but me.]]
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** "Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]

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** "Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]]]
* The Riddler's lamentations from the Bonus story in the TPB "When is a Door." A tv crew is trying to interview criminals, and they find an old riddler who takes care of a "junk yard" which is comprised of many wondrous attractions past their time. They represent hs own state, and the nostalgia he still holds onto.
-->'''Riddler''': "We hung out together, down at the "What a Way to Go-Go.' It was great! And there were all these guys you never see anymore... King Tut. Book Worm. Marsha, Queen of Diamonds. Egg Head [[subscript: Hoo Hoo]]. "sigh" Where did they all go? Batman and Robin were part of the fun-. They were the Straight men, but we were the stars. No one Ever hurt anybody. Not Really. Nobody Died. You look around these days - - It's all different. It's all changed. The Joker's killing people for God's Sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?
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* "Goodbye, moon."

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* "Goodbye, moon.""
** "Hello, Bruce." Seeing Martha Wayne cradle her newborn son in her arms, smiling lovingly at him, [[ForegoneConclusion knowing what awaits her in eight years time...]]

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