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** Given her screams, it can be surmised that [[PainfulTransformation her transformation is a painful one at that.]]
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Of course, you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in.
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Of course, you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) recruitable and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in.
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Of course, you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Of course, you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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** Given her screams, it can be surmised that her transformation is a painful one at that.
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!!Valkyrie Profile:
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler:Well, her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta, and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in.]]
** FridgeHorror sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
** FridgeHorror sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler:Well, Well, her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta, and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in.]]
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** FridgeHorror sets in when you realize that[[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
** FridgeHorror sets in when you realize that
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* Watching Lenneth [[spoiler:crying crying uncontrollably in grief after she regains her memories]] memories will hit you pretty hard, considering how cold and stoic she had been for the entire rest of the game.
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* The [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler:Natalia's lost children]]. The path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler:only to hear from Ernest who comes to save her and tells her that the rebels were betrayed and slaughtered]], then the bloody twins [[spoiler:execute her regardless.]]
* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirielle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
* Just any time you plume someone when they have a buddy or family member. Such as Ceripha and Lockswell, Valmur and Phione, Auguste and Reinhilde, Rosea and Duwain, Earnest and Natalia...
* Rosea is practically a tearjerker herself. She's probably the most {{Woobie}}ish character. She and Liesolotte were blamed for something they didn't even do, and they knew they didn't do it. When it comes to Liesolotte, she's pretty much a StepfordSmiler and eventually kills her out of anger. (Or in Path B, Liesolotte kills ''her''. Or in Path ''A'', they kill ''each other''.) She is revered as a saint and wanders from town to town in a demon-infested world. Even if she survives the events of the game, she's stuck in a civil war that tears apart Artolia. Given that the only way to recruit her is in Path C, where she and Duwain are surrounded by the most broken and unsympathetic people in the game. (Unless you recruited Earnest and Natalia.) You can even shatter her more by pluming Duwain in front of her. Heck, perhaps the nicest thing that could be done to her is to [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth sacrifice her]], so she at least gets to live on as one of Lenneth's Einherjar.
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* The game is rife with sad points considering it revolves around recruiting people before their deaths, even though some are more tragic than others. Then again, granting these people a new life and purpose sometimes becomes a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming all in itself.
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* The game is rife with sad points considering it revolves around recruiting people before their deaths, even though some are more tragic than others. Then again, granting these people a new life and purpose sometimes becomes a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}} all in itself.
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* Jelanda's death. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She is implied to be around fourteen and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
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* Jelanda's death. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She is implied to be around fourteen years old and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv2rUPvp644 Epic Tale of A Holy Death]] and it's [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEy70fFM6Gw remix]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ElKXqvxQ08 When A Person Changes]]
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUsmYiq_cvM Behave Irrationally]], double so because it plays when the einherjar talk with Lenneth before parting.
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e02vLMgZvys All is twilight]], and then there's the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz-NEhqgkzk remix]]
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar. Several FAQs said "Play Yumei's recruitment scene... cry a whole lot."
* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]]
* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]]
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar. Several FAQs [=FAQs=] said "Play Yumei's recruitment scene... cry a whole lot."
* * Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well [[spoiler:Well, her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta Lorenta, and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]]
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
* Shiho and Suo. Shiho is a songmaiden whose singing drives men berserk. she's hated for "leading men to their deaths" with her songs, and seen as a witch. When she refuses to sing one time, the army she worekd for was killed, and Suo came to kill her. She even tells Suo to kill him, and he raises his sword. However, he can't bring himself to do it so he instead takes her in his arms and walks away. Instead, Suo's commander kills her because she's too dangerous to let live. This also helps lead Suo up to his HeelFaceTurn, when he stops for an instant after he finds himself raising swords at women and children. At least you can send Shiho and Suo up to Asgard and you can see a scene of them together.
* Shiho and Suo. Shiho is a songmaiden whose singing drives men berserk. she's hated for "leading men to their deaths" with her songs, and seen as a witch. When she refuses to sing one time, the army she worekd for was killed, and Suo came to kill her. She even tells Suo to kill him, and he raises his sword. However, he can't bring himself to do it so he instead takes her in his arms and walks away. Instead, Suo's commander kills her because she's too dangerous to let live. This also helps lead Suo up to his HeelFaceTurn, when he stops for an instant after he finds himself raising swords at women and children. At least you can send Shiho and Suo up to Asgard and you can see a scene of them together.
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* The [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's lost children]]. In the path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only to hear from Ernest who comes to save her and tells her that the rebels were betrayed and slaughtered]], the bloody twins [[spoiler:execute her regardless.]]
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* The [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's [[spoiler:Natalia's lost children]]. In the The path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only [[spoiler:only to hear from Ernest who comes to save her and tells her that the rebels were betrayed and slaughtered]], then the bloody twins [[spoiler:execute her regardless.]]
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** NightmareFuel sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
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** NightmareFuel FridgeHorror sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]]
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]] ]]
** NightmareFuel sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
** NightmareFuel sets in when you realize that [[spoiler: Lorenta's husband was probably ''[[AndIMustScream aware of his actions the entire time]]''. Killing him immediately after he'd slaughtered his wife was probably the most merciful thing Lenneth could have done for him.]]
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* Some of the cries the einherjar give out if they fall in battle can really hit you where it hurts. Thank goodness for Union Plumes/Invoke Feather.
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* Perhaps the most infamous was the recruitment of Yumei. [[spoiler: She's half-mermaid and was treated like shit by her fellow merfolk so she went to land to find her dad...but along the way a kid fell in love with her and they exchange rumours of the Lapis Lazuli that grants wishes. But Yumei then finds that her human father's dead after all so she runs away, gets chased to the beach by the boy who finds that Yumei is half-mermaid, then she swims away and the boy's tear creates a Lapis Lazuli. Instead of wishing for the biggest ship ever like he originally intended, he shouts, "I wish...That Yumei can be with her parents!" and unfortunately it gets majorly corrupted when Lenneth appears and says "So he wishes for her DEATH?!"]]
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar. Several FAQs said "Play Yumei's recruitment scene... cry a whole lot."
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* The game is rife with sad points considering it revolves around recruiting people before their deaths, even though some are more tragic than others.
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* The game is rife with sad points considering it revolves around recruiting people before their deaths, even though some are more tragic than others. Then again, granting these people a new life and purpose sometimes becomes a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming all in itself.
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* Rosea is practically a tearjerker herself. She's probably the most {{Woobie}}ish character. She and Liesolotte were blamed for something they didn't even do, and they knew they didn't do it. When it comes to Liesolotte, she's pretty much a StepfordSmiler and eventually kills her out of anger. (Or in Path B, Liesolotte kills ''her''. Or in Path ''A'', they kill ''each other''.) She is revered as a saint and wanders from town to town in a demon-infested world. Even if she survives the events of the game, she's suck in a civil war that tears apart Artolia. Given that the only way to recruit her is in Path C, where she and Duwain are surrounded by the most broken and unsympathetic people in the game. (Unless you recruited Earnest and Natalia.) You can even shatter her more by pluming Duwain in front of her. Heck, perhaps the nicest thing that could be done to her is to [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth sacrifice her]], so she at least gets to live on as one of Lenneth's Einherjar.
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* Rosea is practically a tearjerker herself. She's probably the most {{Woobie}}ish character. She and Liesolotte were blamed for something they didn't even do, and they knew they didn't do it. When it comes to Liesolotte, she's pretty much a StepfordSmiler and eventually kills her out of anger. (Or in Path B, Liesolotte kills ''her''. Or in Path ''A'', they kill ''each other''.) She is revered as a saint and wanders from town to town in a demon-infested world. Even if she survives the events of the game, she's suck stuck in a civil war that tears apart Artolia. Given that the only way to recruit her is in Path C, where she and Duwain are surrounded by the most broken and unsympathetic people in the game. (Unless you recruited Earnest and Natalia.) You can even shatter her more by pluming Duwain in front of her. Heck, perhaps the nicest thing that could be done to her is to [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth sacrifice her]], so she at least gets to live on as one of Lenneth's Einherjar.
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar.
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar. \n Several FAQs said "Play Yumei's recruitment scene... cry a whole lot."
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have ]]
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have brought Lenneth in. ]]
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* Yumei's recruitment story was often considered the saddest. She is a HalfHumanHybrid being hated on by her merfolk sisters because of her heritage. After her mother dies, she goes to search for her human father, and is rescued by a fisherman and his son named Fuyuki. She and Fuyuki discuss the legend of the Lapis Lazuli, which grants wishes. Fuyuki says he wants a huge fishing ship with it. Not long after, Yumei finds out that her father had many other wives and children (And possibly wouldn't want ''another'') on top of the fact that he's ''dead''. She runs off to commit suicide, but is stopped by Fuyuki, who had chased after her. She tells Fuyuki goodbye and swims off, her tear becoming a Lapis Lazuli. Remembering the legend, Fuyuki picks it up and says, "[[SelflessWish I wish... That Yumei could be with her parents!]]" As you can guess, the wish results in Yumei's death... but Lenneth still grants it by letting Yumei live on as an Einherjar.
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* Jelanda's death. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She can't be out of her teens and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
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* Jelanda's death. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She can't is implied to be out of her teens around fourteen and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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* Celia is seen repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face PlayerPunch that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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** Heck, some thought that they could have totally made the remake better simply by making a sidequest to recruit ''her''. She might not have been ''useful'', given how many sword-users the game tosses at you (Also because of how powerful the lancers and heavy-arms users can be with alchemy.)
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, then Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard.]]
* Celia is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
* Celia is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up...up, tells her that her husband was taken captive...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, then Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard. He did this ''specifically'' because a pair of lovers would have ]]
* Celia is seenthroghout like 5 repeatedly for about five recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) user, even at the point of the game you got her) and that she was left alone after all. The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.though.
** Heck, some thought that they could have totally made the remake better simply by making a sidequest to recruit ''her''. She might not have been ''useful'', given how many sword-users the game tosses at you (Also because of how powerful the lancers and heavy-arms users can be with alchemy.)
* Shiho and Suo. Shiho is a songmaiden whose singing drives men berserk. she's hated for "leading men to their deaths" with her songs, and seen as a witch. When she refuses to sing one time, the army she worekd for was killed, and Suo came to kill her. She even tells Suo to kill him, and he raises his sword. However, he can't bring himself to do it so he instead takes her in his arms and walks away. Instead, Suo's commander kills her because she's too dangerous to let live. This also helps lead Suo up to his HeelFaceTurn, when he stops for an instant after he finds himself raising swords at women and children. At least you can send Shiho and Suo up to Asgard and you can see a scene of them together.
* Celia is seen
** Heck, some thought that they could have totally made the remake better simply by making a sidequest to recruit ''her''. She might not have been ''useful'', given how many sword-users the game tosses at you (Also because of how powerful the lancers and heavy-arms users can be with alchemy.)
* Shiho and Suo. Shiho is a songmaiden whose singing drives men berserk. she's hated for "leading men to their deaths" with her songs, and seen as a witch. When she refuses to sing one time, the army she worekd for was killed, and Suo came to kill her. She even tells Suo to kill him, and he raises his sword. However, he can't bring himself to do it so he instead takes her in his arms and walks away. Instead, Suo's commander kills her because she's too dangerous to let live. This also helps lead Suo up to his HeelFaceTurn, when he stops for an instant after he finds himself raising swords at women and children. At least you can send Shiho and Suo up to Asgard and you can see a scene of them together.
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* The [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's lost children]]. In the path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only to hear from Ernest who comes to save her that they were betrayed and slaughtered]], the bloody twins [[spoiler:execute her regardless.]]
* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
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* The [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's lost children]]. In the path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only to hear from Ernest who comes to save her and tells her that they the rebels were betrayed and slaughtered]], the bloody twins [[spoiler:execute her regardless.]]
* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tellsMirelle Mirielle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
* Just any time you plume someone when they have a buddy or family member. Such as Ceripha and Lockswell, Valmur and Phione, Auguste and Reinhilde, Rosea and Duwain, Earnest and Natalia...
* Rosea is practically a tearjerker herself. She's probably the most {{Woobie}}ish character. She and Liesolotte were blamed for something they didn't even do, and they knew they didn't do it. When it comes to Liesolotte, she's pretty much a StepfordSmiler and eventually kills her out of anger. (Or in Path B, Liesolotte kills ''her''. Or in Path ''A'', they kill ''each other''.) She is revered as a saint and wanders from town to town in a demon-infested world. Even if she survives the events of the game, she's suck in a civil war that tears apart Artolia. Given that the only way to recruit her is in Path C, where she and Duwain are surrounded by the most broken and unsympathetic people in the game. (Unless you recruited Earnest and Natalia.) You can even shatter her more by pluming Duwain in front of her. Heck, perhaps the nicest thing that could be done to her is to [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth sacrifice her]], so she at least gets to live on as one of Lenneth's Einherjar.
* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells
* Just any time you plume someone when they have a buddy or family member. Such as Ceripha and Lockswell, Valmur and Phione, Auguste and Reinhilde, Rosea and Duwain, Earnest and Natalia...
* Rosea is practically a tearjerker herself. She's probably the most {{Woobie}}ish character. She and Liesolotte were blamed for something they didn't even do, and they knew they didn't do it. When it comes to Liesolotte, she's pretty much a StepfordSmiler and eventually kills her out of anger. (Or in Path B, Liesolotte kills ''her''. Or in Path ''A'', they kill ''each other''.) She is revered as a saint and wanders from town to town in a demon-infested world. Even if she survives the events of the game, she's suck in a civil war that tears apart Artolia. Given that the only way to recruit her is in Path C, where she and Duwain are surrounded by the most broken and unsympathetic people in the game. (Unless you recruited Earnest and Natalia.) You can even shatter her more by pluming Duwain in front of her. Heck, perhaps the nicest thing that could be done to her is to [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth sacrifice her]], so she at least gets to live on as one of Lenneth's Einherjar.
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* How have you guys ''not'' mentioned ValkyrieProfile yet? The game is rife with sad points considering you see their deaths, even though some are more tragic than others. (Lawfer's death was never actually explained...my fan theory was that he helped Arngrim's brother escape and then tripped and fell into a plothole and died.) Jelanda's story was definitely sad.
** Dear god, Jelanda. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She can't be out of her teens and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
** Perhaps the most infamous was the recruitment of Yumei. [[spoiler: She's half-mermaid and was treated like shit by her fellow merfolk so she went to land to find her dad...but along the way a kid fell in love with her and they exchange rumours of the Lapis Lazuli that grants wishes. But Yumei then finds that her human father's dead after all so she runs away, gets chased to the beach by the boy who finds that Yumei is half-mermaid, then she swims away and the boy's tear creates a Lapis Lazuli. Instead of wishing for the biggest ship ever like he originally intended, he shouts, "I wish...That Yumei can be with her parents!" and unfortunately it gets majorly corrupted when Lenneth appears and says "So he wishes for her DEATH?!"]] This troper personally came somewhat close to crying when he saw it, and he knows several others who actually did cry at this.
** Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, then Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard.]] Not as sad as the above, though.
** Celia. Seriously. She is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone.
*** The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of what I presume was a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
* When this troper learned the truth that the [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's lost children]] and in the path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only to hear from Ernest comes to save her that they were betrayed and slaughtered]], the bloody twins [[spoiler: Execute her regardless.]] Honestly, I'm surprised I didn't make the connection....
** When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
** Dear god, Jelanda. Especially in the remake, where you get to see her transform into a monster, and hear her ''screaming and begging for help''. She can't be out of her teens and she has to go through that and then have to be mercy killed.
** Perhaps the most infamous was the recruitment of Yumei. [[spoiler: She's half-mermaid and was treated like shit by her fellow merfolk so she went to land to find her dad...but along the way a kid fell in love with her and they exchange rumours of the Lapis Lazuli that grants wishes. But Yumei then finds that her human father's dead after all so she runs away, gets chased to the beach by the boy who finds that Yumei is half-mermaid, then she swims away and the boy's tear creates a Lapis Lazuli. Instead of wishing for the biggest ship ever like he originally intended, he shouts, "I wish...That Yumei can be with her parents!" and unfortunately it gets majorly corrupted when Lenneth appears and says "So he wishes for her DEATH?!"]] This troper personally came somewhat close to crying when he saw it, and he knows several others who actually did cry at this.
** Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, then Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard.]] Not as sad as the above, though.
** Celia. Seriously. She is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone.
*** The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of what I presume was a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
* When this troper learned the truth that the [[CreepyTwins Bloody Twins]] in Valkyrie Profile: Covenant of the Plume were really [[spoiler: Natalia's lost children]] and in the path where you recruit them involves Natalia giving herself over to save the lives of everyone in the rebellion, [[spoiler: only to hear from Ernest comes to save her that they were betrayed and slaughtered]], the bloody twins [[spoiler: Execute her regardless.]] Honestly, I'm surprised I didn't make the connection....
** When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
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* The game is rife with sad points considering
* Jelanda's
** Dear god, Jelanda.
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* Lorenta. Her recruitment scene starts with "And a happy birthday to you", but then Lezard comes up...and feeds her husband Ghoul powder. (Remember what happened to Jelanda?) [[spoiler: Well her transformed husband then cracks Lorenta's spine in half, then Lenneth apparently chops his head off...then recruits Lorenta and you don't get to reunite her in Asgard.
** Celia. Seriously. She
* Celia is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left
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* When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
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** When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
** When Mischke is sacrificed with the plume. He tells Mirelle to go ahead without him, and this is the one time Wyl appears to show regret for using the Plume. It even becomes a PetTheDog moment if you take the C path.
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*** The people whose recruitment scenes she appears on are her friends and members of what I presume was a mercenary band. If what we see is right, then she lost all her friends and is forced to do battle with the 'villain' they were chasing alone. Worst part is, when she does get to the 'villain', he's merely an empty shell of armor whose soul is reaped by Lenneth before she can get even an explanation out of him, turning her whole quest, and the deaths of her friends, into a huge, epic failure that only served to further cement the misery she finds herself in. Would totally make for an awesome RPG though.
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** Celice. Seriously. She is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone.
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** Celice.Celia. Seriously. She is seen throghout like 5 recruitment scenes. It's a huge slap to the face that she wasn't recruitable. (Course you couldn't ''possibly'' need another sword user) and that she was left alone.