History TearJerker / SuperSmashBros

* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUWnQu2Grs&feature=youtu.be&t=34m52s At the end of the]] [[WebVideo/NintendoDirect April 4 2014 Super Smash Bros. Direct]], we see Creator/MasahiroSakurai painfully struggling to perform the [[Creator/SatoruIwata Iwata]] [[MemeticHandGesture Salute]].[[note]]He has calcific tendinitis in his right shoulder, driving home just what pain he worked through to make this game its best.[[/note]]

*** What’s worse, the next time we see the Ancient Minister is when Samus and Pikachu confronts him in the Subspace Bomb Factory, and he just looks down. Since the next cutscene with him is his HeelFaceTurn. Clearly, seeing so many of his comrades sacrifice themselves for him caused him to have a HeelRealization.

* On the Magicant stage, one of the Flying Men from ''VideoGame/MOTHER1'' and ''{{VideoGame/EarthBound}}'' shows up on the top right corner. If you approach him, he'll assist you until he falls off the stage somehow. However, after he passes, a grave marker will note his defeat (implying that he ''[[HeroicSacrifice died for you]]''), [[MythologyGag just like in their native game.]] Eventually, another Flying Man will come to that same spot, rinse repeat until you have all five Flying Men graves on that corner. And what's more- once they're gone, [[DownerEnding they're not coming back]]. ''Ever.''[[labelnote:*]]Well, at least for that battle.[[/labelnote]]

** Also in the trailer, watching Ness get repeatedly smacked around by the other fighters can be quite sad to watch. Whether he's suffering from homesickness like he does in ''Earthbound'' or he misses Lucas is anyone's guess.

* On the Magicant stage, one of the Flying Men from ''VideoGame/MOTHER1'' and ''{{VideoGame/EarthBound}}'' shows up on the top right corner. If you approach him, he'll assist you until he falls off the stage somehow. However, after he passes, a grave marker will note his defeat (implying that he ''[[HeroicSacrifice died for you]]''), [[MythologyGag just like in their native game.]] Eventually, another Flying Man will come to that same spot, rinse repeat until you have [[KillEmAll all five Flying Men graves on that corner]]. And what's more- once they're gone, [[DownerEnding they're not coming back]]. ''Ever.''[[labelnote:*]]Well, at least for that battle.[[/labelnote]]

* The ending to the original game. After you defeat Master Hand, the character you played as is dropped on a table in what appears to be a kids room, where they lay motionless for the rest of the cutscene. All the while, emotional music plays in the background while the camera zooms out and the screen fades to white. The screen then cuts to black to the sound of a door closing before cutting to the credits. One of the most tissue-reaching endings is [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu's,]] who sits there staring at the camera with an [[HoldYourHippogriffs honest-to-Arceus]] [[GoOutWithASmile smile on his face]].

** One of Lucina's two KO screams is a lot like female Robin's aforementioned scream in that both sound like they're really hurting upon their falls, but Lucina's is also short and rather abrupt, which may indicate how much more painful it is for the heir to the exalted blade to fall in battle. It really may not help matters at all if you're playing as Lucina against a Captain Falcon player.

** In general, just how willing people are to viciously mock characters who didn't make it in the game because they know it upsets their fans. It makes the Smash fandom seem very mean spirited and unwelcoming.

--->'''Corrin''': [ThisCannotBe How...can this...?]]

** Likewise, Luigi can be heard [[TheWoobie sobbing]] in his Star KO. Mario of all people also cries in his Star KO as of Brawl, though it is cartoonier.

* When female Robin suffers a fall from the stage, her cry sounds very painful (probably because it is more realistic than other over-the-top female death cries, such as Zelda or Palutena) and it makes you feel bad if you are using her.
** When male Robin suffers a fall, he'll occasionally say [[HeroicSelfDeprecation "Reckless fool…"]]
** One of Lucina's two KO screams is a lot like female Robin's aforementioned scream in that both sound like they're really hurting upon their falls, but Lucina's is also short and rather abrupt, which may indicate how much more painful it is for the heir to the exalted blade to fall in battle. It really may not help matters at all if you're playing as Lucina against a Captain Falcon player…
** Both Male and Female Corrin have a KO quote much like Male Robin's… and Just as depressing…
--->'''Corrin:''' (Both Male and Female)'' How… Can this…?

-->'''Corrin:''' (Both Male and Female)'' How… Can this…?

--> "Lucas used to be weak-willed, and cry all the time. However, he overcame unimaginable hardships, and must surely be out adventuring somewhere right now. Or perhaps, he's found a partner and made a family of his own... No, no, that feels too soon. To fans of the MOTHER series, both Lucas and Ness might be young boys for all eternity."

--> '''Corrin: ''(Both Male and Female)'' How… Can this…?

*** To put that scene into more detail, the Ancient Minister is attacked by Mario and Link, with Pit, Yoshi and Kirby not far behind. A group of R.O.Bs come in to help their master and hold the heroes back. As the Minister prepares to leave, he looks down and notices another R.O.B clinging onto him, attempting to drag the Subspace Bomb down to the ground. He succeeds, then he falls with the bomb but his head '''breaks off.''' As two of the remaining R.O.Bs activate it, a third turns to the fleeing Minister, doing the aforementioned wave. The bomb then explodes, showing in full detail the R.O.Bs being pulled in and torn apart. [[TheWoobie …Wow]].

* The ending to the original game. After you defeat Master Hand, the character you played as is dropped on a table in what appears to be a kids room, where they lay motionless for the rest of the cutscene. All the while, emotional music plays in the background while the camera zooms out and the screen fades to white. The screen then cuts to black to the sound of a door closing before cutting to the credits. One of the most tissue-reaching endings is [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu's,]] who sits there staring at the camera with an [[HoldYourHippogriffs honest-to-Arceus]] [[GoOutWithASmile smile on his face.]]

** Late into the opening, Donkey Kong can be seen getting hit by one of Mewtwo's Shadow Balls. The ape looks like he's crying out in pain...

* Do you remember the betrayal of the entire R.O.B. race against the Ancient Minister? [[https://41.media.tumblr.com/90501ceba5aedce6279ea85ab1a1313d/tumblr_nuvlk1dzth1tswdslo1_500.jpg It's canon.]] In Super Smash Brothers 4, there is a Boxing Ring stage for Little Mac, the ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' character. Affectionately, each playable character was given a boxing name. While most are fitting, and sometimes funny, R.O.B.'s is [[LastOfHisKind "The Last of His Kind."]] So the Subspace Emissary not only is [[WordOfGod canon in the Super Smash Bros. franchise,]] but this R.O.B. is the Ancient Minister; the same Ancient Minister that witnessed the extinction of his entire race, and has been carrying the weight of his own sins as well as knowing that it is all his fault that the R.O.B.s are dead. This is the '''''same R.O.B.''''' that has emotions. And now he lives with the utter trauma of his entire species turning on him and setting him on fire, just before mindlessly accepting their extinction. That was the moment where his world comes crashing down (Quite literally once the island is destroyed). And to top it all off, after the Subspace Emissary ends, he's all alone until Super Smash Brothers 4. Feel horrible yet? It gets worse. While it is also a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, when R.O.B. blasts down a bunch of enemies, he looks [[StoicWoobie absolutely heartbroken]].
** The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih-YQID7F38&list=PLlhOux2UKb9B5U6LggSfD5M-ecn5SG2HW&index=85 cutscene]] that depicts this event deserves mention, too. Ganondorf appears and issues the apparent order to detonate all of the subspace bombs. The Ancient Minister is rightly horrified by this and steps between them, causing the other R.O.B.s to stop and look at each other questioningly, clearly hesitant to go against the Minister. Then, with the push of a button, Ganondorf takes control of them, making them all BrainwashedAndCrazy as they get ready to use the bombs. The Minister tries to stop them, but that just results in Ganondorf turning them on him and setting him on fire. All of this to a sad rendition of the game's main theme. Worse, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b8jxJkvGz0&index=86&list=PLlhOux2UKb9B5U6LggSfD5M-ecn5SG2HW the next cutscene]] shows them, now out of Ganondorf's control but unable to remove themselves from the bombs. Heck of a way for any one person to go out, much less a whole race...

-->'''Mei Ling''': Marth was betrayed by his most trusted friend. I can't imagine what that feels like...\\
'''Snake''': ...[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake I can]]. [[note]]Though it should be noted that Mei-Ling is probably referring to Hardin, who only betrayed Marth after he got a nasty case of DemonicPossession[=/=]BrainwashedAndCrazy. [[/note]]
** On the topic of Marth, one of his win quotes can be translated as "''Today, I was able to survive again.''" It is quite possible that this is referencing the Perma-death system in his own series. And when one looks into them, despite them often being [[AttentionWhore misinterpreted differently]], it's also possible to interpret his other quotes, (a relieved and somewhat childish "It seems I have won for today", a determined "I cannot afford to lose!", and "Everyone, please watch me!", said with a rather pleading tone), as well as the fact that in one of his idle animations he puts his hand over his chest and seemingly breaths to regain composure, as further evidence that [[ShellShockedVeteran the war never ended for him]]. Even in a friendly competition like Smash, [[TheWoobie the poor guy]] still can't get the battlefield and its constant threat of death out of his mind. On a similar note, Roy describes the battle he just fought as "painful" in one of his victory quotes. At least Marth sounds way more confident in the English version of ''Ultimate''.

* Towards the end of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ytrX0wweA Robin and Lucina trailer]], a beaten-up Chrom gives a very disheartening quip: "I suppose I'll get my chance... another day...", as he watches Robin and Lucina fight Captain Falcon before going unconscious. It's alleviated a bit with the reveal that he's in as Robin's Final Smash, but you can't help but feel bad for the guy not being able to actually fight with/against Marth, Ike, or the other Nintendo stars. He was PromotedToPlayable in the next game, though, despite the fact that he's still called upon for Robin's Final Smash.

* On the Magicant stage, one of the Flying Men from ''VideoGame/MOTHER1'' and ''{{VideoGame/EarthBound}}'' shows up on the top right corner. If you approach him, he'll assist you until he falls off the stage somehow. However, after he passes, a grave marker will note his defeat (implying that he ''[[HeroicSacrifice died for you]]''), [[MythologyGag just like in their native game.]] Eventually, another Flying Man will come to that same spot, rinse repeat until you have [[KillEmAll all five Flying Men graves on that corner.]] And what's more- once they're gone, [[DownerEnding they're not coming back.]] ''Ever.'' [[labelnote: *]] Well, at least for that battle.[[/labelnote]]

** One of Lucina's two K.O. screams is a lot like female Robin's aforementioned scream in that both sound like they're really hurting upon their falls, but Lucina's is also short and rather abrupt, which may indicate how much more painful it is for the heir to the exalted blade to fall in battle. It really may not help matters at all if you're playing as Lucina against a Captain Falcon player…
** Both Male and Female Corrin have a KO quote much like Male Robin's... and Just as depressing...
--> '''Corrin (Both Male and Female)''': How... Can this... ?

* If you are a fan of ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}}'' and/or main Olimar (or Alph), losing Pikmin can become this, especially when he is knocked out from the stage, as this cause all Pikmin to die. This can also be applied when they are killed by other players (or even Olimar himself, in order, for example, to block projectiles). Try to pintpoint it, they are putting their lives in peril just for letting Olimar win matches and even if he uses them as a HumanShield, they will keep on helping him.

** With later reveals on [[Franchise/KingdomHearts Sora]] being rated as the #1 character for Smash and VideoGame/BanjoKazooie also being voted highly together, their initial exclusions for the final Smash character in the 3DS/Wii U game could be seen as that since they had a chance to be included earlier on, but couldn't due to brutal copyright issues and problems in getting them in Smash at that time (Sora with Disney owning his franchise, Banjo-Kazooie being owned by Microsoft, a rivaling console developer). Of course, [[TearsOfJoy we all know how things ended for them both a game later...]]

** With later reveals on [[VideoGame/KingdomHearts Sora]] being rated as the #1 character for Smash and VideoGame/BanjoKazooie also being voted highly together, their initial exclusions for the final Smash character in the 3DS/Wii U game could be seen as that since they had a chance to be included earlier on, but couldn't due to brutal copyright issues and problems in getting them in Smash at that time (Sora with Disney owning his franchise, Banjo-Kazooie being owned by Microsoft, a rivaling console developer). Of course, [[TearsOfJoy we all know how things ended for them both a game later...]]

** With later reveals on Sora being rated as the #1 character for Smash (and VideoGame/BanjoKazooie also being voted highly), their initial exclusions for the final Smash character in the 3DS/Wii U game could be seen as that since they had a chance to be included earlier on, but couldn't due to brutal copyright issues and problems in getting them in Smash at that time (Sora with Disney owning his franchise, Banjo-Kazooie being owned by Microsoft, a rivaling console developer). Of course, [[TearsOfJoy we all know how things ended for them both a game later...]]

* Depending on who you ask, certain characters not making it into Smash after the ballot can be kind of heartbreaking. Sure, there's always next game and some characters did make it as costumes, but it's only so much of a fix. ''Ultimate'', however, [[TheBusCameBack opts to bring back everyone]], which could elicit [[TearsOfJoy tears of a different kind]].

* Everybody trying in vain to stop the Island of the Ancients exploding, and combined with the aforementioned HeelFaceTurn.
* All of the characters you obtained after the Meta Ridley battle travel to Subspace where they meet TheManBehindTheMan. Tabuu unleashes an attack that instantly turns everyone into trophies. The scene plays in slow motion as each character is floating from the attack, with shock and fear in their eyes, and are turned back into trophies one by one. You then see all the characters in trophy form lying on the ground as Tabuu begins to absorb the Smash Bros world. After that, you see Luigi, Ness, and King Dedede who are also trophies and it seems all is lost until Dedede's badges revive Luigi and Ness. Ness then revives King Dedede and he hugs him and Luigi as thanks before they go and rescue everyone. OK, so death doesn't totally exist in the Smash Bros world for the main characters, but this comes close to causing one to well up.

* Hearing the Codec with Solid Snake describing Lucas is filled with this. The fact that [[NotSoDifferent Snake himself understands the hardships Lucas has gone through]] is heartbreaking. But this line is enough to make anyone bawl:

* The Ancient Minister has a horrible story, really. His best friend forces him to use his people (the R.O.B.s) to drag the world into Subspace, sacrificing many of them in the process. When the heroes and the bombs have destroyed most of the R.O.B.s, Ganondorf orders the remaining ones to blow up the Island of Ancients. When the Minister tries to stop them, Ganondorf provokes them to attack their true master with the press of a button. As the heroes left the island, they brought with them the Ancient Minister, the very last sane R.O.B., and just managed to escape the complete and permanent obliteration of the Island of Ancients, with every last one of the Minister's people and comrades destroyed. And, finally, close to the end, the Minister's best friend is mortally wounded when he attempts to attack TheManBehindTheMan, with the Minister himself being turned into a trophy immediately afterwards.

* Do you remember the betrayal of the entire R.O.B. race against the Ancient Minister? [[https://41.media.tumblr.com/90501ceba5aedce6279ea85ab1a1313d/tumblr_nuvlk1dzth1tswdslo1_500.jpg It's canon.]] In Super Smash Brothers 4, there is a Boxing Ring stage for Little Mac, the ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' character. Affectionately, each playable character was given a boxing name. While most are fitting, and sometimes funny, R.O.B.'s is [[LastOfHisKind "The Last of His Kind."]] So the Subspace Emissary not only is [[WordOfGod canon in the Super Smash Bros. franchise,]] but this R.O.B. is the Ancient Minister; the same Ancient Minister that witnessed the genocide of his entire race, and has been carrying the weight of his own sins as well as knowing that it is all his fault that the R.O.B.s are dead. This is the '''''same R.O.B.''''' that has emotions. And now he lives with the utter trauma of his entire species turning on him and setting him on fire, just before their destruction. That was the moment where his world comes crashing down (Quite literally once the island is destroyed). And to top it all off, after the Subspace Emissary ends, he's all alone until Super Smash Brothers 4. Feel horrible yet? It gets worse. While it is also a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome, when R.O.B. blasts down a bunch of enemies, he looks [[StoicWoobie absolutely heartbroken]].

** Gets even worse when you think about it: HIS OWN KIND HAS TURNED ON HIM.

'''Snake''': ...[[VideoGame/MetalGear2SolidSnake I can]]. [[note]]Though it should be noted that Mei-Ling is probably referring to Hardin, who less betrayed Marth and more got a nasty case of DemonicPossession[=/=]BrainwashedAndCrazy. [[/note]]

* Sure, it's just a game, but if you had a favorite character in a previous installment who didn't return in the following one, or had a character you really wanted to become playable but didn't make the cut, then it's natural to feel disappointed. The BrokenBase for some characters ([[VideoGame/IceClimber Ice Climbers]], [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Ridley]], and [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Mewtwo]][[note]]before their returns and additions was announced[[/note]] come to mind) only makes it worse, with many detractors mocking character supporters.

** When Lucas and the Pokémon Trainer finally catch up with Wario and defeat him. Lucas happily looks around the area for a moment, probably excepting Wario to be in possession of the captured Ness. Sadly, Lucas doesn't see Ness anywhere.

* Depending on who you ask, certain characters not making it into Smash after the ballot can be kind of heartbreaking. Sure, there's always next game and some characters did make it as costumes, but it's only so much of a fix.
** Snake's exclusion in particular can be hard to take, because of Creator/{{Konami}}'s recent dealings with the gaming market. His 3rd-party status doesn't help, either. 1st-party Nintendo characters like Wolf and the Ice Climbers have a reasonable chance to return in a future ''Smash'' installment, but Creator/HideoKojima has left Konami and he was the one that vouched for Snake since ''Melee''. [[TheBusCameBack Thankfully]], ''Ultimate'' brought him back.

* In ''Melee'''s intro, the scene where Sheik looks up at the sky, with a ghostly image of Zelda's head following her movement, implying that Sheik is not just a transformation. It is no coincidence that this is the point where the music slows down.

* The ending to the original game. After you defeat Master Hand, the character you played as is dropped on a table in what appears to be a kids room, where they lay motionless for the rest of the cutscene. All the while, emotional music plays in the background while the camera zooms out and the screen fades to white. The screen then cuts to black to the sound of a door closing before cutting to the credits. One of the most tissue-reaching endings is [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu's,]] who sits there staring at the camera with an [[HoldYourHippogrifs honest-to-Arceus]] [[GoOutWithASmile smile on his face.]]

* The ending to the original game. After you defeat Master Hand, the character you played as is dropped on a table in what appears to be a kids room, where they lay motionless for the rest of the cutscene. All the while, emotional music plays in the background while the camera zooms out and the screen fades to white. The screen then cuts to black to the sound of a door closing before cutting to the credits. One of the most tissue-reaching endings is [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} Pikachu's,]] who sits there staring at the camera with [[GoOutWithASmile an honest-to-Arceus smile on his face.]]

* Ocarina of Time players will recognize the sound Young Link makes when he's put to sleep by whatever means. It's the sound he makes when he's suffering from a nightmarish premonition of being attacked by Ganondorf. Every time Young Link goes to sleep in Melee, ''[[NothingIsScarier he has]] [[AndIMustScream nightmares]]''.

** On the topic of Marth, one of his win quotes can be translated as "''Today, I was able to survive again.''" It is quite possible that this is referencing the Perma-death system in his own series. And when one looks into them, despite them often being [[AttentionWhore misinterpreted differently]], it's also possible to interpret his other quotes, (a relieved and somewhat childish "It seems I have won for today", a determined "I cannot afford to lose!", and "Everyone, please watch me!", said with a rather pleading tone), as well as the fact that in one of his idle animations he puts his hand over his chest and seemingly breaths to regain composure, as further evidence that [[ShellShockedVeteran the war never ended for him]]. Even in a friendly competition like Smash, [[TheWoobie the poor guy still can't get the battlefield and its constant threat of death out of his mind]]. On a similar note, Roy describes the battle he just fought as "painful" in one of his victory quotes.
*** At least, Marth sounds way more confident in the English version of ''Ultimate''.

* [[http://mynintendonews.com/2013/06/18/sakurai-says-character-selection-for-super-smash-bros-is-stressful-almost-to-the-brink-of-death/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter This news from Sakurai in regards to making a character for Smash Bros. It shows he has a heart for his fans. Sure, he may add unexpected characters like the Wii Fit Trainer, but that doesn't mean that he tries to ruin the franchise for his fans, even the ones that constantly ask him for a character in the next installment.]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUWnQu2Grs&feature=youtu.be&t=34m52s At the end of the]] [[WebVideo/NintendoDirect April 4 2014 Super Smash Bros. Direct]], we see Creator/MasahiroSakurai painfully struggling to preform the [[Creator/SatoruIwata Iwata]] [[MemeticHandGesture Salute]].[[note]]He has calcific tendinitis in his right shoulder, driving home just what pain he worked through to make this game its best.[[/note]]
* Towards the end of the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9ytrX0wweA Robin and Lucina trailer]], a beaten-up Chrom gives a very disheartening quip: "I suppose I'll get my chance... another day...", as he watches Robin and Lucina fight Captain Falcon before going unconscious. It's alleviated a bit with the reveal that he's in as Robin's Final Smash, but you can't help but feel bad for the guy not being able to actually fight with/against Marth, Ike, or the other Nintendo stars.
** It seems the devs knew he was a popular request, but since the roster had been finalized well before, they wanted to make it up to the fanbase. They really do care!
** Chrom will finally get a proper chance to fight in Smash Ultimate as an echo fighter.

* On the Magicant stage, one of the Flying Men from ''VideoGame/MOTHER1'' and ''{{VideoGame/EarthBound}}'' shows up on the top right corner. If you approach him, he'll assist you until he falls off the stage somehow. However, after he passes, a grave marker will note his defeat (implying that he ''[[HeroicSacrifice died for you]]''), [[MythologyGag just like in their native game.]] Eventually, another Flying Man will come to that same spot, rinse repeat until you have [[KillEmAll all five Flying Men graves on that corner.]] And what's more- once they're gone, [[DownerEnding they're not coming back.]] ''Ever.'' [[labelnote: *]] Well, at least for that round.[[/labelnote]]

* When female Robin suffers a fall from the stage, her cry sounds very painful (probably because it is more realistic than other over-the-top female deathcries, such as Zelda or Palutena) and it makes you feel bad if you are using her.

* Every previously playable Smash Bros character is commemorated in the 3DS version's trophies. There's Mewtwo, and Lucas[[note]]their original trophies[[/note]], and Pichu, and the Ice Climbers, and Wolf, and Pokémon Trainer, and Ivysaur, and Squirtle, and… and… where are Young Link, Roy, and Snake? (Dr. Mario also lacked a trophy in ''Brawl'', but the blow is lessened a lot by him returning in the next installment.)
** This had been alleviated by the confirmation of DLC characters being made available for ''Wii U/3DS'', with Mewtwo, Lucas, and Roy being released as [=DLC=] in 2015, and everyone else returning a game later in ''Ultimate''. Hope sprang eternal.
* If you are a fan of ''VideoGame/{{Pikmin}}'' and main Olimar (or Alph) losing Pikmin can become this, especially when he is knocked out from the stage, as this cause all Pikmin to die. This can also be applied when they are killed by other players (or even Olimar himself, in order, for example, to block projectiles). Try to pintpoint it, they are putting their lives in peril just for letting Olimar win matches and even if he uses them as a HumanShield, they will keep on helping him.

* Another stage included is the [[VideoGame/MetroidOtherM Pyrosphere]], where many ''Metroid'' fans witnessed Samus' infamous breakdown in front of Ridley's clone. Just Samus being back on the BOTTLE SHIP is bad enough, considering it's where Adam Malkovich sacrificed himself and her whole objective there turned into a ShaggyDogStory, but then she has to relive the location where she confronted her arch-nemesis, lost contact with Adam, and almost lost her federation buddy, Anthony Higgs, in that order. And sure enough, to add insult to mental injury, the Ridley clone is alive and kicking as well. It's a cruel reminder to Samus of [[MyGreatestFailure her greatest failure]], and it's a testament to her stoicism that she doesn't immediately break down crying after the match is over.
* The fact that the DLC fighters don't have individual Palutena-Pit conversations is pretty heartbreaking if you think about it, since Pit apparently doesn't remember Lucas ''despite them both being in Brawl and fighting in the Subspace Emissary''. What the heck happened?
** A consolation in Bayonetta's trailer implied that we'd get more Palutena's Guidance conversations, seeing as they spend time talking about Bayonetta's powers.
*** But no, Bayonetta & Corrin came out and they didn't get such in-game conversations.
*** And since the patches are officially over... we can say Pit ''did'' forget Lucas.
*** Similarly, Pit also doesn't recognize King Dedede, despite the fact that he saved the world.
*** Luckily, since Smash Ultimate brings back Palutena's Guidance, we are for sure getting proper dialogue for them.

** Snake's exclusion in particular can be hard to take, because of Creator/{{Konami}}'s recent dealings with the gaming market. His 3rd-party status doesn't help, either. 1st-party Nintendo characters like Wolf and the Ice Climbers have a reasonable chance to return in a future ''Smash'' installment, but Creator/HideoKojima has left Konami and he was the one that vouched for Snake since ''Melee''. Only time will tell if he'll be seen in this series again.
*** [[TheBusCameBack Thankfully]], he's showing up in ''Ultimate''.

* Every previously playable Smash Bros character is commemorated in the 3DS version's trophies. There's Mewtwo[[note]]its non-fighter one[[/note]], and Pichu, and the Ice Climbers, and Wolf, and Lucas, and Pokémon Trainer, and Ivysaur, and Squirtle, and… and… where are Young Link, Roy, and Snake? (Dr. Mario also lacked a trophy in ''Brawl'', but the blow is lessened a lot by him returning in the next installment.)

** In general, most Star KO screams made by cute characters sounding terrified (Lucas, Bowser Jr., and Inkling, for instance) will make you feel bad if you're the one who landed the finishing attack on them or if you're playing as them when you get KO'd.

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[[caption-width-right:350:[[VideoGame/Mother3 "Lucas didn't know what to do anymore."]]]]