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--->''Bojack''': I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic I mean am, am, am]] I just doomed to be the person I am? The-the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it? It's-- it's not too late-- Diane, I need you to tell me that it's not too late. I-I-I need you to tell me that I'm a good person. I know that [[AllAboutMe I can be selfish and narcissistic]] and self-destructive, but [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold underneath all that, deep down, I'm a good person]], and I need you tell me that I'm good, Diane. Tell me, ''please'', Diane. [[AintTooProudToBeg Tell me that I'm good]].

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--->''Bojack''': --->'''Bojack''': I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic I mean am, am, am]] I just doomed to be the person I am? The-the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it? It's-- it's not too late-- Diane, I need you to tell me that it's not too late. I-I-I need you to tell me that I'm a good person. I know that [[AllAboutMe I can be selfish and narcissistic]] and self-destructive, but [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold underneath all that, deep down, I'm a good person]], and I need you tell me that I'm good, Diane. Tell me, ''please'', Diane. [[AintTooProudToBeg Tell me that I'm good]].
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--->''Bojack''': I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? [[RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic I mean am, am, am]] I just doomed to be the person I am? The-the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it? It's-- it's not too late-- Diane, I need you to tell me that it's not too late. I-I-I need you to tell me that I'm a good person. I know that [[AllAboutMe I can be selfish and narcissistic]] and self-destructive, but [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold underneath all that, deep down, I'm a good person]], and I need you tell me that I'm good, Diane. Tell me, ''please'', Diane. [[AintTooProudToBeg Tell me that I'm good]].
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* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. To be fair, Bojack was coerced into it by his heartless studio executives, but he still carried a lot of guilt over that. Years later, Bojack tries to make amends, but Herb [[RejectedApology doesn't forgive him]] and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.

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* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. To be fair, Bojack was coerced into it by his heartless studio executives, executives[[note]] and Herb initially wanted Bojack to threaten to walk if he got fired[[/note]], but he still carried a lot of guilt over that. Years later, Bojack tries to make amends, but Herb [[RejectedApology doesn't forgive him]] and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.
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** Made even worse in that, during the telling silence where he's hoping Diane will reply, the audio shifts to play a lone birdcall and his hallucinatory daughter's laughter.
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-->''I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? I mean am, am, am I just doomed to be the person I am; the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it?

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-->''I -->I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? I mean am, am, am I just doomed to be the person I am; the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it?
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-->''"Do you think it's too late for me? I mean am, am, am I just doomed to be the person I am; the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it?

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-->''"Do -->''I guess my question is - do you think it's too late for me? I mean am, am, am I just doomed to be the person I am; the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it?it?



* The appropriately named "Downer Ending" features [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a sad moment at the end]] where Bojack goes to the Ghost Writers Panel to ask Diane if she thinks he's a good person and if it's too late for him. By the end of it, he's practically begging her to tell him what he wants to hear, and then the episode cuts off before she gets a chance to respond after a fifteen second silence where Bojack just stands there looking sad and lost. It doesn't help that the only reason he tried writing his own book (and failing miserably at it) was both because he didn't want people to know [[WartsAndAll the ugly flawed truth about his empty life]] and that he hated the person Diane saw in him and wrote the book about.

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* The appropriately named "Downer Ending" features [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a sad moment at the end]] where Bojack goes to the Ghost Writers Panel [[http://youtu.be/45a1NTArG-g?t=33s to give Diane permission to publish the book she'd written]], and to ask Diane if she thinks he's a good person and if it's too late for him. By the end of it, he's practically begging her to tell him what he wants to hear, and then the episode cuts off before she gets a chance to respond after a fifteen second silence where Bojack just stands there looking sad and lost. It doesn't help that the only reason he tried writing his own book (and failing miserably at it) was both because he didn't want people to know [[WartsAndAll the ugly flawed truth about his empty life]] and that he hated the person Diane saw in him and wrote the book about.
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* "Do you think I'm a good person?" [[RealitySubtext Who hasn't felt like that?]]
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* Five words: "Am I a good person?" Because who hasn't thought that about themselves at least once?
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real. The reveal hurts, but the anticipation is ''murder!''

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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that something is up with this too-perfect life isn't real.scenario. The reveal hurts, but the anticipation is ''murder!''

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***What makes it worse is that during his first flashback with Herb, Bojack refused alcohol and was a truly caring individual, and was willing to stand by his friend if he lost his job, as he admits to that he wouldn't have even starred on Horsing Around if it wasn't for Herb vouching for him.



*** What makes it worse is that during his first flashback with Herb, Bojack refused alcohol and was a truly caring individual, willing to stand by his friend if he lost his job, as he admits to that he wouldn't have even starred on Horsing Around if it wasn't for Herb vouching for him.
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*** What makes it worse is that during his first flashback with Herb, Bojack refused alcohol and was a truly caring individual, willing to stand by his friend if he lost his job, as he admits to that he wouldn't have even starred on Horsing Around if it wasn't for Herb vouching for him.
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-->'''Herb''': "Yeah... [[InsultBackfire you did]]."

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-->'''Herb''': "Yeah... [[InsultBackfire you did]].""
* Five words: "Am I a good person?" Because who hasn't thought that about themselves at least once?
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-->'''Herb''': "Yeah... [[WhamLine you did]]."

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-->'''Herb''': "Yeah... [[WhamLine [[InsultBackfire you did]]."
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* Bojack's [[WrongGenreSavy misconception that real life operates like a sitcom]] finally blowing up in his face when Herb [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls him out]] on what a bastard he really is.
-->'''Bojack''': I don't know why I came here!
-->'''Herb''': Yeah... [[WhamLine you did]].

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* Bojack's [[WrongGenreSavy [[WrongGenreSavvy misconception that real life operates like a sitcom]] finally blowing up in his face when Herb [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls him out]] on what a bastard how selfish and petty he really is.
-->'''Bojack''': I "I don't know why I came here!
here!"
-->'''Herb''': Yeah..."Yeah... [[WhamLine you did]]."
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* The ending of "Say Anything" would've been a triumphant one if the events of "The Telescope" didn't make part of it a ShaggyDogStory and the reveal that [[spoiler:no one remembered or bothered to wish Princess Carolyn a Happy Birthday]].

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* The ending of "Say Anything" would've been a triumphant one if the events of "The Telescope" didn't make part of it a ShaggyDogStory and the reveal that [[spoiler:no one remembered or bothered to wish Princess Carolyn a Happy Birthday]].Birthday]].
*Bojack's [[WrongGenreSavy misconception that real life operates like a sitcom]] finally blowing up in his face when Herb [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech calls him out]] on what a bastard he really is.
-->'''Bojack''': I don't know why I came here!
-->'''Herb''': Yeah... [[WhamLine you did]].
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real. The anticipation of the impending WhamLine alone may be more depressing than the line itself.

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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real. The reveal hurts, but the anticipation of the impending WhamLine alone may be more depressing than the line itself.is ''murder!''
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* Bojack pulling over on his and Diane's trip back from Herb and jumping out of the car so she won't see him cry. He never does, but the heavy breathing clearly implies that he's on the verge of tears.

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* Bojack pulling over on his and Diane's trip back from Herb and jumping out of the car so she won't see him cry. He never does, but the heavy breathing clearly implies that he's on the verge of tears.about to explode.
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real. The anticipation of [[WhamLine the other shoe dropping]] makes it ''ever sadder.''

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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real. The anticipation of [[WhamLine the other shoe dropping]] makes it ''ever sadder.''impending WhamLine alone may be more depressing than the line itself.
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real, and the anticipation of the other shoe dropping makes it ''ever sadder.''

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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real, and the real. The anticipation of [[WhamLine the other shoe dropping dropping]] makes it ''ever sadder.''
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real, and seeing how much happier Bojack is while knowing this makes it ''ever sadder.''

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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real, and seeing how much happier Bojack is while knowing this the anticipation of the other shoe dropping makes it ''ever sadder.''
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*** Even before Charlotte drops the bomb that it's AllJustADream, it's pretty easy to tell that this too-perfect life isn't real, and seeing how much happier Bojack is while knowing this makes it ''ever sadder.''
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** Herb, in late stages of cancer, winds up fighting Bojack when he starts playing with the telescope. This used to be the symbol of their friendship and their goal to take over Hollywood together. During the fight, they rolled onto it and broke it.
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* The appropriately named "Downer Ending" features [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a sad moment at the end]] where Bojack goes to the Ghost Writers Panel to ask Diane if she thinks he's a good person and if it's too late for him. By the end of it, he's practically begging her to tell him he's a good person, which the episode cuts off before she gets a chance to respond after a fifteen second silence where Bojack just stands there looking sad and lost. It doesn't help that the only reason he tried writing his own book (and failing miserably at it) was both because he didn't want people to know the ugly flawed truth about his empty life and that he hated the person Diane saw in him and wrote the book about.

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* The appropriately named "Downer Ending" features [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a sad moment at the end]] where Bojack goes to the Ghost Writers Panel to ask Diane if she thinks he's a good person and if it's too late for him. By the end of it, he's practically begging her to tell him he's a good person, which what he wants to hear, and then the episode cuts off before she gets a chance to respond after a fifteen second silence where Bojack just stands there looking sad and lost. It doesn't help that the only reason he tried writing his own book (and failing miserably at it) was both because he didn't want people to know [[WartsAndAll the ugly flawed truth about his empty life life]] and that he hated the person Diane saw in him and wrote the book about.



** During his MushroomSamba, Bojack dreams of a life where he left showbiz, got together with Charlotte, started a family with her and living a simple but fulfilling and happy like. Moreover, he actually ''does'' seem like a good father (unlike his own parents who were horribly [[AbusiveParents abusive]]), and Charlotte is very sweet and Bojack is actually a nice and normal person around her on his own accord. And then Dream!Charlotte seals it when she says Bojack's life could've been quite beautiful if he had gone down this road.

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** During his MushroomSamba, Bojack dreams of a life where he left showbiz, got together with Charlotte, started a family with her and living a simple but fulfilling and happy like.life. Moreover, he actually ''does'' seem like a good father (unlike his own parents who were horribly [[AbusiveParents abusive]]), and Charlotte is very sweet and Bojack is actually a nice and normal person around her on his own accord. And then Dream!Charlotte seals it when she says Bojack's life could've been quite beautiful if he had gone down this road.

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** "This is all that I am and all I'm ever going to be."
** Charlotte's telling Bojack in his bad trip how beautiful his life would be if he had gotten with her, lived in a lovely cottage rather than his overblown apartment, and had children with her. It works because he actually DOES seem like a good father (with how he adorably plays with his daughter in the pond), and Charlotte is very sweet and Bojack is actually a nice and normal person around her on his own accord. -sniffle-
* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. Bojack tries to make amends in the present, but Herb doesn't forgive him and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.
** Charlotte telling Bojack that she doubts that he would've tried to take their relationship to the next level, even if Herb hadn't hooked up with her, because she thinks he's a coward.

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** "This Bojack's JerkassRealization.
--->"This
is all that I am and all I'm ever going to be."
** Charlotte's telling During his MushroomSamba, Bojack in his bad trip how beautiful his dreams of a life would be if where he had gotten left showbiz, got together with her, lived in Charlotte, started a lovely cottage rather than his overblown apartment, and had children family with her. It works because her and living a simple but fulfilling and happy like. Moreover, he actually DOES ''does'' seem like a good father (with how he adorably plays with (unlike his daughter in the pond), own parents who were horribly [[AbusiveParents abusive]]), and Charlotte is very sweet and Bojack is actually a nice and normal person around her on his own accord. -sniffle-
And then Dream!Charlotte seals it when she says Bojack's life could've been quite beautiful if he had gone down this road.
* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. To be fair, Bojack was coerced into it by his heartless studio executives, but he still carried a lot of guilt over that. Years later, Bojack tries to make amends in the present, amends, but Herb [[RejectedApology doesn't forgive him him]] and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.
** The flashback of Charlotte telling Bojack that she doubts that he would've tried to take their relationship to the next level, even if Herb hadn't hooked up with her, because she thinks he's a coward.
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** Charlotte's telling Bojack in his bad trip how beautiful his life would be if he had gotten with her, lived in a lovely cottage rather than his overblown apartment, and had children with her. It works because he actually DOES seem like a good father (with how he adorably plays with his daughter in the pond), and Charlotte is very sweet and Bojack is actually a nice and normal person around her on his own accord. -sniffle-

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** "This is all that I am and it's all I'm ever going to be."

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** "This is all that I am and it's all I'm ever going to be."


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** Charlotte telling Bojack that she doubts that he would've tried to take their relationship to the next level, even if Herb hadn't hooked up with her, because she thinks he's a coward.
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** In the same episode, an intoxicated Todd gently admits that he no longer expects Bojack to ever be a good friend so he can stop being disappointed whenever he doesn't do the right thing.
** "This is all that I am and it's all I'm ever going to be."
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* Bojack pulling over on his and Diane's trip back from Herb and jumping out of the car so she won't see him cry. He never does, but the heavy breathing clearly implies that he's on the verge of tears.

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* Bojack pulling over on his and Diane's trip back from Herb and jumping out of the car so she won't see him cry. He never does, but the heavy breathing clearly implies that he's on the verge of tears.tears.
* The ending of "Say Anything" would've been a triumphant one if the events of "The Telescope" didn't make part of it a ShaggyDogStory and the reveal that [[spoiler:no one remembered or bothered to wish Princess Carolyn a Happy Birthday]].
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* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. Bojack tries to make amends in the present, but Herb doesn't forgive him and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.

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* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. Bojack tries to make amends in the present, but Herb doesn't forgive him and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.brokenness.
*Bojack pulling over on his and Diane's trip back from Herb and jumping out of the car so she won't see him cry. He never does, but the heavy breathing clearly implies that he's on the verge of tears.
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-->''"Do you think it's too late for me? I mean am, am, am I just doomed to be the person I am; the person in that book? It's not too late for me, is it?
--->--'''Bojack''', ''"Downer Ending"''

* The appropriately named "Downer Ending" features [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin a sad moment at the end]] where Bojack goes to the Ghost Writers Panel to ask Diane if she thinks he's a good person and if it's too late for him. By the end of it, he's practically begging her to tell him he's a good person, which the episode cuts off before she gets a chance to respond after a fifteen second silence where Bojack just stands there looking sad and lost. It doesn't help that the only reason he tried writing his own book (and failing miserably at it) was both because he didn't want people to know the ugly flawed truth about his empty life and that he hated the person Diane saw in him and wrote the book about.
* In "The Telescope", we learn that Bojack abandoned his friend Herb after he got kicked off the staff of his sitcom, when all Herb really needed at the time was a friend. Bojack tries to make amends in the present, but Herb doesn't forgive him and tells Bojack that he'll have to live the rest of his life without closure, sealing Bojack's status as a JerkassWoobie and giving his relationship with Herb some emotional depth and brokenness.

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