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The books are free, and are available at [[http://dicefreaks.freeforums.org/the-gates-of-hell-t22.html the Dicefreaks forums]]. Technically, this is one book, but it is downloaded in nine parts.
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The books are free, and are available at [[http://dicefreaks.freeforums.org/the-gates-of-hell-t22.[[https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/dicefreaks/the-gates-of-hell-t22.html the Dicefreaks forums]]. Technically, this is one book, but it is downloaded in nine parts.
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The books describe the structure of Hell, the magic, and the abilities of the devils and people serving them. It is quite close to what is canonical - at least, what was canonical back then. However, there is quite a bit of expansion. For example, there wasn't just one Fall, there were two. The first one was the one which created Hell... and sent a universe-sized serpent into a trillion year long coma. The second... that's your classic "fallen angels" plot.
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The books describe the structure of Hell, the magic, and the abilities of the devils and people serving them. It is quite close to what is canonical - -- at least, what was canonical back then. However, there is quite a bit of expansion. For example, there wasn't just one Fall, there were two. The first one was the one which created Hell... and sent a universe-sized serpent into a trillion year long coma. The second... that's your classic "fallen angels" plot.
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* FireAndBrimstoneHell: Phlegethon, the center of the newcomer souls' reforging. Other layers tend to vary in their environments.
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* MagnificentBastard: You don't remain in power for all these billions of years without being one of these.
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* WhipItGood: Moloch.
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* FlayingAlive: The kocrachon anilities include removing the skin off an immobilized target.
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* SiblingRivalry: Glasya and Lixer, two children of Asmodeus, are in constant rivalry. Daddy believes it is for the best in forms of efficiency.
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* SiblingRivalry: Glasya and Lixer, two children of Asmodeus, are in constant rivalry. Daddy believes it is for the best in forms terms of efficiency.
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-->His powers over time and history allow him to correct the mistakes of the past, to alter the present, and to ensure the future always holds a place for him. Heroes never born of a murdered mother, prophecies of hope left unspoken by their authors, this is the work of Merorem.
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* NoSexAllowed: Carniveau, Duke of Purity.
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* YourMindMakesItReal: Haagenti’s ''Live the Nightmare'' power. A person can die from a failed saving throw... despite it actually succeeding.
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* WouldntHurtAChild: Amdusius. Which creates quite a bit of tension between him and Lilith (his ''mother'').
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* WouldntHurtAChild: Amdusius. Which creates quite a bit of tension between him and Lilith (his ''mother'').''mother'').
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* PiecesOfGod: UpToEleven. When the Overlord fell, his blood gave birth to malefircareim, mighty beings who proceeded to wage war upon each other. Once the Overlord awoke, he destroyed them (except for a few he set as nobility or intended to use for his own obscure schemes). However, since the malefircareim are still demigods in their own right, they are constantly being reborn in the form of yet lesser beings called nupperibos, who, if allowed (which is rare), evolve back into Malefircareim, with an intermediate stage called a barregon.
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* PiecesOfGod: UpToEleven. When the Overlord fell, his blood gave birth to malefircareim, mighty beings who proceeded to wage war upon each other. Once the Overlord awoke, he destroyed them (except for a few he set as nobility or intended to use for his own obscure schemes). However, since the malefircareim are still demigods in their own right, they are constantly being reborn in the form of yet lesser beings called nupperibos, who, if allowed (which is rare), evolve back into Malefircareim, with an intermediate stage called a barregon.
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* ThatsNoMoon: In the canon, Asmodeus' true body is hundreds of miles long. In this book, [[UpToEleven his scales are planet sized]].
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* DevilsPitchfork: Both Belial and Mephistopheles have one.
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* ProngsOfPoseidon: Mephistopheles And Belial.
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* VillainousIncest: Fierana and Belial had dozens of children together.
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* IncestIsRelative: Belial and Fierana. Asmodeus and Bensozia could also count, although it becomes really twisted when he is the progenitor of ''all'' the devils.
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* HellIsUnderNewManagement: Subverted. Asmodeus did take over Hell after deposing Lucifer... but with them being avatars [[RunningBothSides of the same being]], this is merely a gamble to make people underestimate Hell.
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* HellIsUnderNewManagement: HellHasNewManagement: Subverted. Asmodeus did take over Hell after deposing Lucifer... but with them being avatars [[RunningBothSides of the same being]], this is merely a gamble to make people underestimate Hell. There was also an earlier example, when Lucifer took over upon awakening, but there was no single leader to Hell back then, only millions of warring demigodlike Hellspawn.
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* HumanDemonHybrid: in addition to the canon D&D examples, the books feature Lixer, the son of Asmodeus from a mortal queen, a necromancer who was purged of his mortal part by his father (not that it stops FantasticRacism from "real" devils). There are also templates for half-mortal children born to fiend and FallenAngel nobility.
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* DirtyCoward: Mammon.
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* DreamWeaver: Haagenti.
* DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans.
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* DirtyCoward: Mammon.
Mammon. even against a weak opponent, is very reluctant to fight.
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* DreamWeaver:Haagenti.
Haagenti's specialization. Made him somewhat of a pariah, since Hell doesn't like imagination.
*DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans.DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans: Some devils (like Beelzebub) genuinely believe they are trying to do good, but most are fully aware of where they are trying to drag reality.
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* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: Beelzebub.
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* TheEvilsOfFreeWill: Beelzebub.Beelzebub wants perfection, and believes it can only be achieved with constant guidance.
* HellIsUnderNewManagement: Subverted. Asmodeus did take over Hell after deposing Lucifer... but with them being avatars [[RunningBothSides of the same being]], this is merely a gamble to make people underestimate Hell.
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* ObstructiveBureaucrat: Dispater's entire policy is this and meaningless work, because he believes that the best way to keep his underlings from rebelling is to ''always'' keep them busy. Works perfectly; he's the one Lord who had no threats to his position (well, aside of from Asmodeus, but that's part of the job).
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* ObstructiveBureaucrat: Dispater's entire policy is this and meaningless work, because he believes that the best way to keep his underlings from rebelling is to ''always'' keep them busy. Works perfectly; he's the one Lord who had no threats to his position (well, aside of from Asmodeus, but an underling (Asmodeus is a different matter, that's part of the job).
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* EvilTaintedThePlace: The books have the rules describing the taint for a location where a devil entered the Material Plane.
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* UglyAllAlong: Semyaza is a FallenAngel appearing so beautiful that people will do anything for him merely due to his looks. One way to overcome it is using magic powerful enough to see his true appearance... but then the opponent must succeed on a Will check to avoid {{Brain Bleach}}ing the memory away.
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* HomeFieldAdvantage: Every Lord gains a +3 bonus to Divine Rank while in his later (for Asmodeus, anywhere in Hell). Dispater takes it further, with his Iron Tower being an artifact location full of spells like one constantly wrenching enemy weapons out of their hands.
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* HomeFieldAdvantage: Every Lord gains a +3 bonus to Divine Rank while in his later their layer (for Asmodeus, anywhere in Hell). Dispater takes it further, with his Iron Tower being an artifact location full of spells like one constantly wrenching enemy weapons out of their hands.
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* AllForNothing: A person wanting an audience with Mammon must sacrifice an object valuable to them, which is taken away regardless of whether it has sufficient value to be worth an audience. If one sacrifices their soul, that's precisely what happens in case of a sub-Epic character.
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* AboveTheGods: Asmodeus, despite being a mere avatar of the real Overlord, is already an Overdeity while in Hell.
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The books describe the structure of Hell, the magic, and the abilities of the devils and people serving them. It is quite close to what is canonical - at least, what was canonical back then. However, there is quite a bit of expansion. For example, there wasn't just one Fall, there were two. The first one was the one which created Hell... and sent a universe sized universe-sized serpent into a trillion year long coma. The second... that's your classic "fallen angels" plot.
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* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Inverted. Geryon, the one Lord to remain loyal to Asmodeus throughout a rebellion, was exiled because Hell has no place for loyalty.
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* RewardedAsATraitorDeserves: Inverted. Geryon, the one Lord to remain loyal to Asmodeus throughout a rebellion, was exiled because Hell has no place for loyalty. More specifically, loyalty that supersedes ambition. Geryon was cast out of his position for being too staid and content in his position for Asmodeus' taste. His successor, Leviathan, was not released from his icy prison upon assuming the role, and Geryon is mobile in his plotting against him, making it likely that he can regain his Lordship at some point once his shows energy and ambition enough for Asmodeus' satisfaction.
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* BloodIron: Sammael carries a rapier made out of iron drawn from the blood of thousands of humanoid creatures. It suppresses the healing of anyone struck by it. Marks of the Dark Ministry are Blood Iron as well.
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* PiecesOfGod: UpToEleven. When the Overlord fell, his blood gave birth to malefircareim, mighty beings who proceeded to wage war upon each other. Once the Overlord awoke, he destroyed them (except for a few he set as nobility or intended to use for his own obscure schemes. However, since the malefircareim are still demigods in their own right, they are constantly being reborn in the form of yet lesser beings called nupperibos, who, if allowed (which is rare), evolve back into Malefircareim, with an intermediate stage called a barregon.
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* PiecesOfGod: UpToEleven. When the Overlord fell, his blood gave birth to malefircareim, mighty beings who proceeded to wage war upon each other. Once the Overlord awoke, he destroyed them (except for a few he set as nobility or intended to use for his own obscure schemes.schemes). However, since the malefircareim are still demigods in their own right, they are constantly being reborn in the form of yet lesser beings called nupperibos, who, if allowed (which is rare), evolve back into Malefircareim, with an intermediate stage called a barregon.
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* TechnicalVirgin: Glasya is a virgin, and might be a virgin in all the other senses as well... but her mind is totally rotten.
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* EunuchsAreEvil: Lilith's mortal servants are nearly all female, but sometimes castrated men are accepted.
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* ResistanceAsPlanned: Verrier's first attempt to bring the Overlord down was assembling an army of nine million Hellspawn... meaning Lucifer didn't need to hunt them down all over Hell. These days, Verrier is running another resistance, while being hidden by a powerful anti-scrying spell... since Asmodeus is stated to be its source, it can be safely assumed the trope is at work once again.
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* RunningBothSides: Asmodeus' rebellion against Lucifer, that with the two being avatars of the same being. Mephistopheles later did the same on a smaller scale.
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* ICannotSelfTerminate: According to one legend, two of the devils who supported Asmodeus when he revolted against Lucifer did it because they ''wanted'' to lose. When they won, Asmodeus gave them both precisely what they wanted; one was exiled to [[ForgottenRealms Toril]]... the other destroyed.
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* ICannotSelfTerminate: According to one legend, two of the devils who supported Asmodeus when he revolted against Lucifer did it because they ''wanted'' to lose. When they won, Asmodeus gave them both precisely what they wanted; one was exiled to [[ForgottenRealms [[TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms Toril]]... the other destroyed.
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* EvilDetectingDog: For fiends of the Conversion Branch (the one in charge of manipulating mortal societies into serving hell), Handle Animal is a very common skill precisely because of this trope.