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*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=71#comment-1759 Isaac Garang]] (a pattern for his crimes is not properly established)

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*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=71#comment-1759 Isaac Garang]] ~~(a pattern for~~ (most of the information in his writeup was inaccurate and his actual crimes ~~is not properly established)~~don't have an established pattern)

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** ''[[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryFreakShow Freak Show]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7801#comment-195015 Stanley]] (doesn't actually do much outside of daydreaming about murdering people, in contrast to the SerialKiller Dandy Mott)

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** ''[[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryFreakShow Freak Show]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7801#comment-195015 Stanley]] (doesn't actually do much outside of daydreaming about murdering ~~people, in contrast to the SerialKiller Dandy Mott)~~people)

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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6624#comment-165593 Vandal Savage]] (befriends Ray Palmer in a cameo in season 4)

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* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6624#comment-165593 Vandal Savage]] (befriends Ray Palmer in a cameo that is entirely PlayedForLaughs in season 4)

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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12590#comment-314732 Dr. Martin Brenner]] (is shown in Season 4 to care about his test subjects and is horrified when they are all killed and is indicated to care about Eleven)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=443#comment-11072 Vecna/Henry Creel]] (is controlled by the Mind Flayer and shows remorse after killing his family)

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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12590#comment-314732 Dr. Martin Brenner]] (is shown in Season 4 to care about his test subjects and is horrified when they are all ~~killed and is indicated to care~~ killed, cares about ~~Eleven)~~
Eleven, and pulls a HeelFaceTurn)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=443#comment-11072 Vecna/Henry Creel]] ~~(is~~ (revealed to be controlled by the Mind Flayer and shows remorse ~~after~~ for killing his family)

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* ''Series/AreYouAfraidOfTheDark'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=456#comment-11383 Peter]] [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=537#comment-13401 Kirlian]] [[Recap/AreYouAfraidOfTheDarkSeason1TheTaleOfTheCapturedSouls III]] (AlasPoorVillain)

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*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5573#comment-139311 Rayanne Leland]] (only behind the deaths of 2 people, which isn't heinous enough by the standards of the show)

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*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5573#comment-139311~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5572#comment-139288 Rayanne Leland]] (only behind the deaths of 2 people, which isn't heinous enough by the standards of the show)

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These two Kamen Rider entries should probably be listed under the Films - Live-Action and Theatre folders on Former Complete Monsters instead of here. I also moved the OOO entry to before the Gaim entry so that the entries are listed in release order.

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** ''[[Series/KamenRiderOOO OOO]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12247#comment-306151 Kazari/the Feline Greeed]] (every one of his crimes is replicated and surpassed by other villains, and he frequently gets subjected to EvilerThanThou moments by said villains)

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** ''[[Film/KamenRiderHibikiAndTheSevenSenki Hibiki And The Seven Senki]]'': Hitotsumi (hot heinous enough for the baseline standard)
** ''[[https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Chushingura Chushingura]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8393#comment-209816 Dr. Kira/Kamen Rider Killer]] (fails the heinous standard of the franchise, especially in comparison to other villains who do far worse)
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderOOO OOO]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12247#comment-306151 Kazari/the Feline Greeed]] (every one of his crimes is replicated and surpassed by other villains, and he frequently gets subjected to EvilerThanThou moments by said villains)

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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=436#comment-10891 Arthur Blessard]] (partially plagiarized)

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*** ''Series/{{CSI}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=20#comment-495 Jenny Carroll]] (fails the massive heinous standard compared to many other killers in the series)

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** ''[[Series/KamenRiderExAid Ex-Aid]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3394#comment-84831 Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm]] (loved his mother)

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** ''[[Series/KamenRiderExAid ~~Ex-Aid]]'':~~ Ex-Aid]]'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3394#comment-84831 Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm]] (loved his ~~mother)~~mother)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=303#comment-7573 Masamune Dan]]/[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=304#comment-7585 Kamen Rider Cronus]] (loved his wife)

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* ''Series/LostTapes'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=171#comment-4265 Charles Weatherly]] (proposed by a ban evader)

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** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=443#comment-11072 Vecna/Henry Creel]] (is controlled by the Mind Flayer and shows remorse ~~for~~ after killing his family)

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* ''Series/StrangerThings'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12590#comment-314732 Dr. Martin Brenner]] (is shown in Season 4 to care about his test subjects and is horrified when they are all killed and is indicated to care about Eleven)

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* ~~''Series/StrangerThings'':~~ ''Series/StrangerThings'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12590#comment-314732 Dr. Martin Brenner]] (is shown in Season 4 to care about his test subjects and is horrified when they are all killed and is indicated to care about ~~Eleven)~~Eleven)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=443#comment-11072 Vecna/Henry Creel]] (is controlled by the Mind Flayer and shows remorse for killing his family)

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**[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=436#comment-10891 Arthur Blessard]] (partially plagiarized)

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*''Series/Kingdom2019'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=435#comment-10857 Queen Consort Cho]] (FreudianExcuse regarding her father)

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* ''52 Pick-Up'' (1986): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12809#comment-320209 Alan Raimy]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Alone'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=6#comment-126 Ploy]] (feels remorse about causing her sister's death and likely fails the heinous standard for horror movie villains)
* ''Film/AngelHasFallen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8530#comment-213250 Wade Jennings]] (gives Mike Banning apparently legitimate VillainRespect and gets a bit of an AlasPoorVillain death)
* ''Film/{{Angst}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9633#comment-240806 the unnamed protagonist]] (has a Freudian Excuse of being abused by his entire family as a child)
* ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1095#comment-27371 Rhoda Penmark]] (genuinely couldn't comprehend that her crimes were heinous)
* ''Film/BallisticEcksVsSever'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=210#comment-5239 Robert Gant]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/BlackDeath'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4142#comment-103542 Langiva]] (doesn't stand out in the setting and loved her deceased husband)
* ''Film/BlownAway'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10085#comment-252105 Ryan Gaerity]] (his care for his sister appears at least somewhat genuine)
* ''Film/{{Bright}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303542 Leilah]] (despite trying to kill her, she truly loves her sister Tikka)
* ''Bullying'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4806#comment-120131 Nacho]] (doesn't go beyond generic bullying other than trying to rape and kill the protagonist)
* ''Film/Cargo2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9920 Vic Carter]] (possible AlasPoorVillain moment)
* ''Film/{{Changeling}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12809#comment-320209 James E. Davis and Dr. Jonathan Steele]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Children of the Living Dead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=147#comment-3668 Abbott Hayes]] (possible tragic backstory involving being sexually abused by his mother, and likely not heinous enough especially since his past rapes and murders are offscreen)
* ''Circle of Fear'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=112#comment-2797 Dark Half]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/CitizenX'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=215#comment-5367 Andrei Chikatilo]] (too mentally unstable)
* ''Film/CityOfGod'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2691#comment-67261 Ze Pequeno]] (cared for his best friend)
* ''Film/{{Cliffhanger}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3304#comment-82591 Delmar]] (generic {{Mook}} other than his sadism)
* ''Film/TheClownAtMidnight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=171#comment-4255 Mr Carruthers]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Film/CuttingClass'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10400#comment-259990 Brian Woods]] (unable to comprehend the full gravity of his actions due to his schizophrenia)
* ''Film/TheDarkestMinds'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12017#comment-300408 President Gray]] (effort post contained incorrect information; outheinoused by his son)
* ''Film/{{Darkman}}'':
** ''Film/DarkmanIITheReturnOfDurant'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Dr. Alfred Hathaway]] (potential deaths from nuclear testing is not confirmed and is not established separately from Durant's agenda)
** ''Film/DarkmanIIIDieDarkmanDie'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Peter Rooker]] (his nearly killing Jenny is incidental and his other acts of violence are heavily outclassed by Durant)
* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=362#comment-9041 Koba]] (a tie-in novel reveals the full extent of the torture he suffered, which is deemed too horrific for the character to subvert his FreudianExcuse. Author also did not intend him to be utterly despicable)
* ''Film/DeadRisingEndgame'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4319#comment-107954 Dr. Leo Rand]] (WellIntentionedExtremist)
* ''Film/DeathMachine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=359#comment-8975 Jack Dante]] (has a FreudianExcuse and AlasPoorVillain death)
* ''Film/{{Detention}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10119#comment-252954 Sander Sanderson/Cinderhella]] (the film's tone indulges in too much {{comedic sociopathy}} and {{black comedy}} for Sander to truly be taken seriously)
* ''Film/District9'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1508#comment-37678 Piet Smit]] (not as heinous as other villains in the movie)
* ''Film/{{Dredd}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3826#comment-95643 Madeleine "Ma-Ma" Madrigal]] (revealed in a tie-in comic to have had a lover she actually loved)
* ''Film/DustDevil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9694#comment-242340 The Dust Devil]] (implied to be no worse than others of his kind)
* ''Film/EnemyMine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10798#comment-269950 Stubbs]] (tries to avenge his little brother's death)
* ''Film/TheEqualizer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9915 Nicolai Itchenko, aka Teddy Rensen]] (outclassed by Vincent Quaranta from [[Film/TheEqualizer3 the third movie]] [[note]]who himself doesn't count because he cared about his brother and partner-in-crime Marco[[/note]])
* ''Film/TheExpendables'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=389#comment-9725 James Munroe]] (lacks the heinousness of the other villains in the series; [[Film/TheExpendables2 Vilain]]'s slavery is unique, among other factors, so [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=390#comment-9731 he can stay]])
* ''Film/{{Extraction}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=180#comment-4488 Amir Asif]] (his regular abuse and torment of his child soldiers is not explicit enough and his wrecking the city is too indirect a result of his men following his orders; not heinous enough otherwise)
* ''Film/FinalDestination5'': Peter Friedkin (cared for his girlfriend, EvenEvilHasStandards and AlasPoorVillain)
* ''[[Film/GodzillaFinalWars Final Wars]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11572#comment-289290 Keizer Ghidorah/Monster X]] (the majority of its heinousness is FridgeHorror and Controller X did worse)
* ''Film/FirstKnight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11134#comment-278342 Malagant]] (doesn't pass the baseline, since his attacks on villages are never shown to kill anyone)
* ''Film/{{The Fly|1958}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6675#comment-166864 Alan Hines]], from sequel ''Film/ReturnOfTheFly'' and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8478#comment-211944 Dr. Anton Bartok]] from [[Film/TheFlyII sequel]] to [[Film/TheFly1986 1986 remake]] (both do nothing heinous enough to qualify for this trope)
* ''Film/{{Furie}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=225#comment-5607 Thanh Soi]] (prequel gives her a sad backstory and shows she loves her sisters)
* ''Film/TheGentlemen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9512#comment-237793 Dry Eye]] (both crimes that may have helped him count or that he had a part in are not fleshed out enough and his attempted rape of Rosalind is not enough by itself)
* ''Film/GranTorino'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9355#comment-233874 Spider]] (doesn't stand out from the rest of his gang)
* ''Film/HarryBrown'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=156#comment-3884 Noel Winters]] (genuinely cares about his friends and wants to avenge their deaths)
* ''Film/{{Heat}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12886#comment-322129 Waingro]] (heavily outclassed by the villain in the sequel book, Otis Wardell)
* ''Film/Hellraiser2022'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=249#comment-6209 Trevor]] (has an EvenEvilHasStandards moment concerning Colin and feels remorse for working with Voight)
* ''Film/TheHumanCentipede'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55650 Dr. Josef Heiter]] (TorturePorn that exists for shock value)
* ''Film/IAmMother'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8504#comment-212579 Mother]] (never goes against her programming despite her atrocities, and cares for her daughter)
* ''Film/{{Insidious}} 3'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=175#comment-4355 Wheezing Demon]] (not bad enough)
* ''Film/{{Irreversible}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4483#comment-112075 Le Tenia]] (only commits one rape, as graphic and brutal as it is)
* ''Film/TheJackal'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2366#comment-59137 The Jackal]] (lets a hostage go with no indication of pragmatism)
* ''Film/JackTheRipper1976'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8357#comment-208925 Dennis Orloff/Jack the Ripper]] (portrayed sympathetically)
* ''Film/JonahHex'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11875#comment-296873 Quentin Turnbull]] (shown to genuinely care about his son despite the writing of the film making it more unclear)
* ''Jumping Ship'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2056#comment-51376 Frakes]] (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy)
* ''Film/{{Karla}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9252#comment-231289 Paul Bernardo]] (work deemed tasteless exploitation)
* ''Film/{{Kidnap}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12719#comment-317974 Terry and Margo Vickey]] (indicated to care about each other)
* ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' (theatrical cut): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3539#comment-88471 Raynald de Chatillion]] (deemed overshadowed by Guy du Lusignan)
* ''Film/KungFuHustle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9077#comment-226906 Brother Sum]] (PlayedForLaughs and fails the baseline standard)
* ''Film/TheLastKingOfScotland'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=3#comment-52 Idi Amin]] (shows genuine care towards Garrigan)
* ''Film/LeaveHerToHeaven'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6531#comment-163269 Ellen Berent]] (fails the baseline standard)
* ''Film/{{Leatherface}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9843#comment-246072 Verna Sawyer]] (genuinely cares for her family)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5788#comment-144684 Ike]] (ambiguously cares for his mother)
* ''Film/{{Machete}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6243#comment-156068 Rogelio Torrez]] (doesn't stand out amongst his cohorts, and is significantly outheinoused by Voz)
* ''Film/MaleficentMistressOfEvil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=218#comment-5447 Queen Ingrith]] (whether or not her relationship with her brother is meant to be redeeming, its mention gives credibility to his death motivating her actions)
* ''Mr. Accident'' (2000): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=381#comment-9504 Duxton Chevalier]] (only committed one murder and attempted three, additionally getting people addicted was deemed not horrific enough in execution. He also was not as taken seriously as the writeup made him out to be)
* ''Film/{{Mothra}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2940#comment-73487 Clark Nelson]] (too generic)
* ''Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12755#comment-318875 John Cassetti]] (doesn't pass the baseline due to not having the established pattern of his other versions)
* ''Film/MySpy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11311#comment-282769 Victor Marquez]] (shows affection towards his brother's dog)
* ''Film/MysticsInBali'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12407#310166 The Queen of Leak]] (ruled insufficiently heinous for the horror genre)
* ''Film/{{Nightbooks}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11275#comment-281873 Natacha]] (has a FreudianExcuse of being kidnapped and enslaved by a WickedWitch)
* ''Film/{{Novecento}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12338#comment-308427 Attila Mellanchini]] (cares about his lover, defends her against the mob and is horrified when they cut off her hair)
* ''Film/{{Orphan}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12909#comment-322709 Esther]] (displays genuine redeeming qualities and is portrayed sympathetically in [[Film/OrphanFirstKill the prequel]])
* ''Film/PuppetMaster'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9290#comment-232241 Major Kraus]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Toulon)
* ''Film/Rampage2009'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2725#comment-68105 Bill Williamson]] (has a lover and child in the third movie)
* ''Film/RedZoneCuba'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9223#comment-230567 Griffin]] (it was agreed that he did have redeeming qualities and that he wasn't bad enough compared to other characters in the film)
* ''Film/ReservoirDogs'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9199#comment-229963 Vic Vega, aka Mr. Blonde]] (has a genuine friendship with his cohorts and is genuinely loyal to his boss)
* ''Film/TheRiverWild'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12122#comment-303026 Wade]] (doesn't pass the baseline for {{thriller}} films)
* ''Rocky Handsome'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303548 Kevin Ferriera]] (indicated to care about his brother)
* ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1301#comment-32518 Mark Hoffman]] (disqualified due to his StartOfDarkness being motivated by seeking revenge on his sister's killer)
** ''Film/SawII'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=623#comment-15554 Xavier Chavez]] (murderous, but fails to match the series' high heinous standard due to not coming anywhere near close to Jigsaw and his apprentices)
* ''Film/Scarface1983'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5994#comment-149839 Alejandro Sosa]] (wasn't aware of his murder of children and flunks the HS compared to Tony Montana)
* ''Film/ASerbianFilm'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55645 Vukmir]] (exploitation and TorturePorn for shock value)
* ''Film/SherlockHolmes1932'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9149#comment-228716 Professor James Moriarty]] (insufficient heinousness in general)
* ''Film/SpenserConfidential'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=166#comment-4126 Driscoll]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/StakeLand'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3973#comment-99324 Jebediah Loven]] (loves his son)
* ''Film/SurvivingTheGame'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8942#comment-223541 Thomas Burns and Walter Cole]] (care for each other)
* ''Film/TalesOfHalloween'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=141#comment-3517 Catlyn, Maria, Nelson and James]] (they're a group of four when the rules only allow for a group of three at most, and therefore fail to stand out from one another)
* ''Film/TotalRecall1990'': Vilos Cohaagen (had a genuine friendship with Carl Hauser and was upset he was not coming back [[note]]The version from the Creator/DCComics adaptation got approved as it eliminates this redeeming feature[[/note]])
* ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2124#comment-53093 Dylan Gould]] (unlike his Creator/{{IDW|Publishing}} counterpart, the extent of his involvement with the Decepticons is not fleshed out enough to make him stand out)
* ''Film/UncleSam'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4923#comment-123073 Sergeant Sam Harper]] (insufficiently heinous for a slasher villain, genuinely insane, and has a PetTheDog moment with a child)
* ''Film/{{Virtuosity}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11739#comment-293452 Dr. Darrel Lindenmeyer]] (nowhere near heinous enough compared to SID)
* ''Film/WhiteHouseDown'': Eli Raphaelson (gave Cale his job working for him because Cale saved his nephew)
* ''Film/{{Willow}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=143#comment-3565 Queen Bavmorda]] ([[Series/Willow2022 series]] shows her to have been brainwashed by, and less heinous than the Crone)
* ''Film/WouldYouRather'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11093#comment-277309 Shephard Lambrick]] (shows genuine disgust at his son attempting to rape someone and follows through on his promise to spare the winner of his game)

to:

* ~~''52 Pick-Up'' (1986):~~ ''Series/ThirteenReasonsWhy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12809#comment-320209 Alan Raimy]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Alone'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=6#comment-126 Ploy]] (feels remorse about causing her sister's death and likely fails the heinous standard for horror movie villains)
* ''Film/AngelHasFallen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8530#comment-213250 Wade Jennings]] (gives Mike Banning apparently legitimate VillainRespect and gets a bit of an AlasPoorVillain death)
* ''Film/{{Angst}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9633#comment-240806 the unnamed protagonist]] (has a Freudian Excuse of being abused by his entire family as a child)
* ''Film/TheBadSeed1956'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1095#comment-27371 Rhoda Penmark]] (genuinely couldn't comprehend that her crimes were heinous)
* ''Film/BallisticEcksVsSever'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=210#comment-5239 Robert Gant]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/BlackDeath'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4142#comment-103542 Langiva]] (doesn't stand out in the setting and loved her deceased husband)
* ''Film/BlownAway'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10085#comment-252105 Ryan Gaerity]] (his care php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7265#comment-181602 Bryce Walker]] (expresses genuine regret for his sister appears at least somewhat genuine)
* ''Film/{{Bright}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303542 Leilah]] (despite trying to kill her, she truly loves her sister Tikka)
* ''Bullying'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4806#comment-120131 Nacho]] (doesn't go beyond generic bullying other than trying to rape and kill the protagonist)
* ''Film/Cargo2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9920 Vic Carter]] (possible AlasPoorVillain moment)
* ''Film/{{Changeling}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12809#comment-320209 James E. Davis and Dr. Jonathan Steele]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Children of the Living Dead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=147#comment-3668 Abbott Hayes]] (possible tragic backstory involving being sexually abused by his mother, and likely not heinous enough especially since his past rapes and murders are offscreen)
* ''Circle of Fear'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=112#comment-2797 Dark Half]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/CitizenX'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=215#comment-5367 Andrei Chikatilo]] (too mentally unstable)
* ''Film/CityOfGod'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2691#comment-67261 Ze Pequeno]] (cared for his best friend)
* ''Film/{{Cliffhanger}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3304#comment-82591 Delmar]] (generic {{Mook}} other than his sadism)
* ''Film/TheClownAtMidnight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=171#comment-4255 Mr Carruthers]] (proposed by a ban evader)
* ''Film/CuttingClass'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10400#comment-259990 Brian Woods]] (unable to comprehend the full gravity of his actions due to his schizophrenia)
* ''Film/TheDarkestMinds'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12017#comment-300408 President Gray]] (effort post contained incorrect information; outheinoused by his son)
* ''Film/{{Darkman}}'':
** ''Film/DarkmanIITheReturnOfDurant'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Dr. Alfred Hathaway]] (potential deaths from nuclear testing is not confirmed crimes in season 3, and is not established separately from Durant's agenda)
** ''Film/DarkmanIIIDieDarkmanDie'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=35#comment-859 Peter Rooker]] (his nearly killing Jenny is incidental and his other acts of violence are heavily outclassed by Durant)
* ''Film/DawnOfThePlanetOfTheApes'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=362#comment-9041 Koba]] (a tie-in novel reveals the full extent of the torture he suffered, which is deemed too horrific for the character to subvert his FreudianExcuse. Author also did not intend him to be utterly despicable)
* ''Film/DeadRisingEndgame'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4319#comment-107954 Dr. Leo Rand]] (WellIntentionedExtremist)
* ''Film/DeathMachine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=359#comment-8975 Jack Dante]] (has a FreudianExcuse and AlasPoorVillain death)
* ''Film/{{Detention}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10119#comment-252954 Sander Sanderson/Cinderhella]] (the film's tone indulges in too much {{comedic sociopathy}} and {{black comedy}} for Sander to truly be taken seriously)
* ''Film/District9'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1508#comment-37678 Piet Smit]] (not as heinous as other villains in the movie)
* ''Film/{{Dredd}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3826#comment-95643 Madeleine "Ma-Ma" Madrigal]] (revealed in a tie-in comic to have had a lover she actually loved)
* ''Film/DustDevil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9694#comment-242340 The Dust Devil]] (implied to be no worse than others of his kind)
* ''Film/EnemyMine'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10798#comment-269950 Stubbs]] (tries to avenge his little brother's death)
* ''Film/TheEqualizer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=397#comment-9915 Nicolai Itchenko, aka Teddy Rensen]] (outclassed by Vincent Quaranta from [[Film/TheEqualizer3 the third movie]] [[note]]who himself doesn't count because he cared about his brother and partner-in-crime Marco[[/note]])
* ''Film/TheExpendables'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=389#comment-9725 James Munroe]] (lacks the heinousness of the other villains in the series; [[Film/TheExpendables2 Vilain]]'s slavery is unique, among other factors, so [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=390#comment-9731 he can stay]])
* ''Film/{{Extraction}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=180#comment-4488 Amir Asif]] (his regular abuse and torment of his child soldiers is not explicit enough and his wrecking the city is too indirect a result of his men following his orders; not heinous enough otherwise)
* ''Film/FinalDestination5'': Peter Friedkin (cared for his girlfriend, EvenEvilHasStandards and AlasPoorVillain)
* ''[[Film/GodzillaFinalWars Final Wars]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11572#comment-289290 Keizer Ghidorah/Monster X]] (the majority of its heinousness is FridgeHorror and Controller X did worse)
* ''Film/FirstKnight'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11134#comment-278342 Malagant]] (doesn't pass the baseline, since his attacks on villages are never shown to kill anyone)
* ''Film/{{The Fly|1958}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6675#comment-166864 Alan Hines]], from sequel ''Film/ReturnOfTheFly'' and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8478#comment-211944 Dr. Anton Bartok]] from [[Film/TheFlyII sequel]] to [[Film/TheFly1986 1986 remake]] (both do nothing heinous enough to qualify for this trope)
* ''Film/{{Furie}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=225#comment-5607 Thanh Soi]] (prequel gives her a sad backstory and shows she loves her sisters)
* ''Film/TheGentlemen'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9512#comment-237793 Dry Eye]] (both crimes that may have helped him count or that he had a part in are not fleshed out enough and his attempted rape of Rosalind is not enough by itself)
* ''Film/GranTorino'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9355#comment-233874 Spider]] (doesn't stand out from the rest of his gang)
* ''Film/HarryBrown'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=156#comment-3884 Noel Winters]] (genuinely cares about his friends and wants to avenge their deaths)
* ''Film/{{Heat}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12886#comment-322129 Waingro]] (heavily outclassed by the villain in the sequel book, Otis Wardell)
* ''Film/Hellraiser2022'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=249#comment-6209 Trevor]] (has an EvenEvilHasStandards moment concerning Colin and feels remorse for working disgusted with Voight)
* ''Film/TheHumanCentipede'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55650 Dr. Josef Heiter]] (TorturePorn that exists Monty for shock value)
* ''Film/IAmMother'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8504#comment-212579 Mother]] (never goes against her programming despite her atrocities, and cares for her daughter)
* ''Film/{{Insidious}} 3'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=175#comment-4355 Wheezing Demon]] (not bad enough)
* ''Film/{{Irreversible}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4483#comment-112075 Le Tenia]] (only commits one rape, as graphic and brutal as it is)
* ''Film/TheJackal'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2366#comment-59137 The Jackal]] (lets a hostage go raping Tyler with ~~no indication of pragmatism)~~
a mop handle)
* ''Film/JackTheRipper1976'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8357#comment-208925 Dennis Orloff/Jack the Ripper]] (portrayed sympathetically)
* ''Film/JonahHex'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11875#comment-296873 Quentin Turnbull]] (shown to genuinely care about his son despite the writing of the film making it more unclear)
* ''Jumping Ship'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2056#comment-51376 Frakes]] (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy)
* ''Film/{{Karla}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9252#comment-231289 Paul Bernardo]] (work deemed tasteless exploitation)
* ''Film/{{Kidnap}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12719#comment-317974 Terry and Margo Vickey]] (indicated to care about each other)
* ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven'' (theatrical cut): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3539#comment-88471 Raynald de Chatillion]] (deemed overshadowed by Guy du Lusignan)
* ''Film/KungFuHustle'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9077#comment-226906 Brother Sum]] (PlayedForLaughs and fails the baseline standard)
* ''Film/TheLastKingOfScotland'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=3#comment-52 Idi Amin]] (shows genuine care towards Garrigan)
* ''Film/LeaveHerToHeaven'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6531#comment-163269 Ellen Berent]] (fails the baseline standard)
* ''Film/{{Leatherface}}'':
''Series/TwentyFour'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9843#comment-246072 Verna Sawyer]] (genuinely cares for her family)~~
php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=455#comment-11373 Gary Matheson]] (just a domestic abuser who has only a few murders to his name and then tried to kill Kim)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5788#comment-144684 Ike]] (ambiguously cares for his mother)
* ''Film/{{Machete}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6243#comment-156068 Rogelio Torrez]] (doesn't stand out amongst his cohorts, and is significantly outheinoused by Voz)
* ''Film/MaleficentMistressOfEvil'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=218#comment-5447 Queen Ingrith]] (whether or not her relationship with her brother is meant to be redeeming, its mention gives credibility to his death motivating her actions)
* ''Mr. Accident'' (2000): [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=381#comment-9504 Duxton Chevalier]] php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4947#comment-123664 Ramon Salazar]] (only ~~committed one murder and~~ commits a few murders in comparison to the other antagonists who have attempted three, additionally getting people addicted was deemed not horrific enough in execution. He also was not as taken seriously as the writeup made him out to be)
* ''Film/{{Mothra}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2940#comment-73487 Clark Nelson]] (too generic)
* ''Film/MurderOnTheOrientExpress2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12755#comment-318875 John Cassetti]] (doesn't pass the baseline due to not having the established pattern of his other versions)
* ''Film/MySpy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11311#comment-282769 Victor Marquez]] (shows affection towards his brother's dog)
* ''Film/MysticsInBali'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12407#310166 The Queen of Leak]] (ruled insufficiently heinous for the horror genre)
* ''Film/{{Nightbooks}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11275#comment-281873 Natacha]] (has mass murder on a FreudianExcuse of being kidnapped and enslaved by a WickedWitch)
* ''Film/{{Novecento}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12338#comment-308427 Attila Mellanchini]] (cares about his lover, defends her against the mob and is horrified when they cut off her hair)
* ''Film/{{Orphan}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12909#comment-322709 Esther]] (displays genuine redeeming qualities and is portrayed sympathetically in [[Film/OrphanFirstKill the prequel]])
* ''Film/PuppetMaster'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9290#comment-232241 Major Kraus]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Toulon)
* ''Film/Rampage2009'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2725#comment-68105 Bill Williamson]] (has a lover and child in the third movie)
* ''Film/RedZoneCuba'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9223#comment-230567 Griffin]] (it was agreed that he did have redeeming qualities and that he wasn't bad enough compared to other characters in the film)
* ''Film/ReservoirDogs'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9199#comment-229963 Vic Vega, aka Mr. Blonde]] (has a genuine friendship with his cohorts and is genuinely loyal to his boss)
* ''Film/TheRiverWild'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12122#comment-303026 Wade]] (doesn't pass the baseline for {{thriller}} films)
* ''Rocky Handsome'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12142#comment-303548 Kevin Ferriera]] (indicated to care about his brother)
* ''Franchise/{{Saw}}'':
far larger scale)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1301#comment-32518 Mark Hoffman]] (disqualified due~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2030#comment-50742 Navi Araz]] (only tried to kill his ~~StartOfDarkness being motivated by seeking revenge on~~ own wife and his sister's killer)
** ''Film/SawII'': abused son while just simply assisting Habib Marwan with his crimes and nothing more)
* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=623#comment-15554 Xavier Chavez]] (murderous, but fails to match~~ php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=302#comment-7530 Taryan]] (is outdone by his son who is much more involved in the ~~series' high heinous standard due to not coming anywhere near close to Jigsaw and his apprentices)~~
slavery operations)
* ~~''Film/Scarface1983'':~~ ''Series/AliceInBorderland'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5994#comment-149839 Alejandro Sosa]] (wasn't aware of his murder of children and flunks the HS compared to Tony Montana)~~
php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=129#comment-3218 Suguru Niragi]] (expresses genuine gratitude towards Tatto's HeroicSacrifice)
* ~~''Film/ASerbianFilm'':~~ ''Series/AllMyChildren'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2226#comment-55645 Vukmir]] (exploitation and TorturePorn for shock value)~~
php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4922#comment-123038 Michael Cambias]] (doesn't pass the baseline)
* ~~''Film/SherlockHolmes1932'':~~ ''Series/AmericanHorrorStory''
** ''[[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryAsylum Asylum]]'': Leigh Emerson (fails to stack up against Bloody Face in spite of similar resources as well as his backstory of getting sexually assaulted giving him a FreudianExcuse)
** ''[[Series/AmericanHorrorStoryFreakShow Freak Show]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9149#comment-228716 Professor James Moriarty]] (insufficient heinousness~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7801#comment-195015 Stanley]] (doesn't actually do much outside of daydreaming about murdering people, in ~~general)~~
contrast to the SerialKiller Dandy Mott)
* ~~''Film/SpenserConfidential'':~~ ''Series/{{Angel}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=166#comment-4126 Driscoll]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Film/StakeLand'': php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9495#comment-237366 Marcus]] (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3973#comment-99324 Jebediah Loven]] (loves his son)~~
php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2460#comment-61488 Ryan Anderson]] (only commits a couple of murders, which is nowhere near heinous enough by the standards of the Buffyverse)
* ~~''Film/SurvivingTheGame'':~~ ''[[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRqQi5z1EERB5VkIww2epFCYyrzyF7Btj The Angel's Game]]'' series: [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8942#comment-223541 Thomas Burns and Walter Cole]] (care for each other)~~
php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7547#comment-188659 The Collector]] (loves his girlfriend)
* ~~''Film/TalesOfHalloween'':~~ ''Series/{{Arrow}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=141#comment-3517 Catlyn, Maria, Nelson~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3222#comment-80547 Daniel Brickwell]] (not bad enough for his tier and James]] (they're a group of four when the rules only allow for a group of three at most, and therefore fail to stand out from one another)
* ''Film/TotalRecall1990'': Vilos Cohaagen (had a genuine friendship with Carl Hauser and was upset he was not coming back [[note]]The version from the Creator/DCComics adaptation got approved as it eliminates this redeeming feature[[/note]])
* ''Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon'': heinous standard)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2124#comment-53093 Dylan Gould]] (unlike his Creator/{{IDW|Publishing}} counterpart, the extent of his involvement~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11871#comment-296767 Konstantin Kovar]] (out-heinoused hard for a high-resource villain, with ~~the Decepticons is~~ his single MindRape not ~~fleshed out~~ being special enough to make him stand out)
* ''Film/UncleSam'': on its own)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4923#comment-123073 Sergeant Sam Harper]] (insufficiently heinous~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11025#comment-275604 Onyx Adams]] (entry was partially inaccurate, and she is fairly standard for a ~~slasher villain, genuinely insane, and has a PetTheDog moment with a child)~~
VillainOfTheWeek in the show)
* ~~''Film/{{Virtuosity}}'':~~ ''Series/{{Banshee}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11739#comment-293452 Dr. Darrel Lindenmeyer]] (nowhere near~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4910#comment-122743 Damien Sanchez]] (the pattern for his rapes is only vaguely implied, and he fails the heinous ~~enough~~ standard compared to SID)
* ''Film/WhiteHouseDown'': Eli Raphaelson (gave Cale his job working for him because Cale saved his nephew)
* ''Film/{{Willow}}'': the Albino)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=143#comment-3565 Queen Bavmorda]] ([[Series/Willow2022 series]] shows her~~ php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=302#comment-7537 Calvin Bunker]] (is genuinely upset at being forced to ~~have been brainwashed by, and less heinous than the Crone)~~
kill one of his own men)
* ~~''Film/WouldYouRather'':~~ ''Series/BattlestarGalactica2003'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.~~php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11093#comment-277309 Shephard Lambrick]]~~ php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=813#comment-20306 Admiral Helena Cain]] (her FreudianExcuse is legit, and in her final appearance she decides not to carry through on her planned assasination of Adama)
* Series/{{Bellisarioverse}}:
** ''Series/HawaiiFive0'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=409#comment-10201 Ray Beckett]] (entry overstates his crimes; especially not bad enough compared to other franchise villains)
** ''Series/{{NCIS}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4458#comment-111431 Rico and his partner]] (outheinoused by other villains with larger-scale plans)
* ''Series/{{Bitten}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9842#comment-246035 Roman Navikev]] (had remorse for killing his daughter despite refusing to take responsibility for it)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=337#comment-8424 Malcolm Danvers]] (last word is literally telling Elena to "run" to escape Aleister)
* ''Series/BlackMirror'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10542#comment-263549 Matthew Trent]] (fails the heinous standard and his fate is played for sympathy)
* ''Series/BeverlyHills90210'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=112#comment-2778 Douglas Atherton]] (not heinous enough)
* ''Series/BlueBloods'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=107#comment-2661 The Phantom/Donald Washington and Uri Denko]] (neither are bad enough, both in general and by the standards of the series)
* ''Series/BlueHeelers'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=100#comment-2476 Vincent Platt, Ashley Barker and Luke Knight]] (none of them pass the baseline, especially for the genre; probably fail the heinous standard of the series)
* ''Series/BreakingBad'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4474#111850 The Cousins]] (cared about each other)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3157#comment-78921 Jack Welker]] (cared about his nephew Todd)
* ''Series/ChillingAdventuresOfSabrina''
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=6347#comment-158657 Lilith/Madame Satan]] (falls in love with the human Adam and later pulls a HeelFaceTurn in part 2)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9754#comment-243843 Satan]] (grows to genuinely care about Sabrina Morningstar in part 4)
* ''Series/ChouseishinGransazer'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=27#comment-659 Karin Saeki]] (not particularly heinous by the standards of the show and has genuine feelings for Akira)
* ''Series/TheCloser'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1752#comment-43789 Roger Stimple]] and [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1772#comment-44279 Judd Whaley]] (neither pass the high heinous standard of the series)
* ''Series/CriminalMinds'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1295160266062930600&page=13#comment-304 Billy "Prince of Darkness" Flynn]] (has a PetTheDog moment and a sympathetic FreudianExcuse)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1295160266062930600&page=13#comment-306 Frank Breitkopf]] (monstrous SerialKiller who both has an triple-digit bodycount and brutally dissects his victims, but is indicated to be too unstable to have agency)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4490#comment-112228 Karl "The Fox" Arnold]]; (outclassed by Billy "Prince of Darkness" Flynn [[note]]who also cannot qualify because of a sympathetic FreudianExcuse and a PetTheDog moment[[/note]], who not only also targets entire families, but kills and rapes over 200 people)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8137#comment-203401 Floyd Feylinn Ferrell, Clark Preston, J.B. Allen, and John Curtis]] (all of them fail the series' massive heinous standard, as their body counts do not reach double digits compared to other [=UnSubs=], nor do they stand out compared to the actual [=CMs=] who either have a body count ranging from the [=20s=] to the triple digits, did something so viscerally horrible and unique to make up for low victim counts, or even both)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8145#comment-203607 Eduardo Ramos]] (his crimes are entirely offscreen)
* Franchise/CSIVerse:
** ''Series/{{CSI}}'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=20#comment-495 Jenny Carroll]] (fails the massive heinous standard compared to many other killers in the series)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=358#comment-8941 Frank McCarthy]] (proposed by ban evader)
** ''Series/{{CSINY}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=187#comment-4671 Colin Clark]] (may have the biggest number of rapes, but not significantly worse than the series's murderers and pedophiles)
** ''Series/ColdCase'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5573#comment-139311 Rayanne Leland]] (only behind the deaths of 2 people, which isn't heinous enough by the standards of the show)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4488#comment-112193 Daniel Patterson]] (doesn't pass the baseline)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=21#comment-505 Roger Mulvaney]] (standard DomesticAbuser who is only slightly nastier than average)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=23#comment-574 Jim Larkin]] (doesn't have a clear victim count beyond the two seen onscreen)
** ''Series/WithoutATrace'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=21#comment-505 Emil Dornvald]] (doesn't pass the baseline with only 1 kill and threatening a few people)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=71#comment-1759 Isaac Garang]] (a pattern for his crimes is not properly established)
* ''Series/{{Dexter}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11938#comment-298427 Alex Timmons]] (fails the standard compared to the numerous other killers in the series)
* ''Series/DesignatedSurvivor'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4784#comment-119586 Patrick Lloyd]] (is shown in season 2 to believe in his ideals and be motivated by his father's wrongful imprisonment leading to his death; he also sent his estranged son money)
* ''Series/{{Elementary}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1880#comment-46993 Jamie Moriarty]] (cares for her daughter)
* ''Series/{{ER}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=349#comment-8718 Steve Curtis]] (fails the massive heinous standard of the show and allows Sam to save Luca)
* ''Series/FearTheWalkingDead'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12367#comment-309155 Theodore "Teddy" Maddox]] (regretted killing his mother)
* ''Series/TheGoodWife'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=977#comment-24418 Duke Roscoe]] (fails the baseline heinous standard)
* ''Series/{{Gotham}}'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3083#comment-77054 Theo Galavan]] (not sufficiently heinous compared to other villains like Jerome who has fewer resources)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6429#comment-160701 Eduardo Flamingo]] (doesn't stand out on his tier even with the few resources he has)
* ''Series/TheHauntingHour'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4327#comment-108159 Lilly D.]] (several of the other antagonists have far higher bodycounts than her)
* ''Series/HomeAndAway'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4922#comment-123036 Johnny Cooper]] (doesn't pass the baseline)
* ''Series/HoratioHornblower'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=383#comment-9575 Jack Simpson]] (not bad enough, especially compared to Moncoutant)
* ''Series/IClaudius'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=2150#comment-53740 Caligula]] (loves his sister and is genuinely insane)
* ''Series/IZombie'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=1888#comment-47189 Blaine [=McDonough=]]] (has remorse for his crimes in season 2 and loves his family and girlfriend)
* ''Series/{{Justified}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=8439#comment-210971 Fletcher "The Icepick" Nix]] (only commits a couple of brutal murders, in comparison to other antgonists who do far worse)
* ''Franchise/KamenRider'':
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderRyuki Ryuki]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=134#comment-3332 Masashi Sudoh/Kamen Rider Scissors]] (not heinous enough)
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderDouble Double]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=9147#comment-228666 Shinkuro Isaka/Weather Dopant]] (is indicated to care for Saeko)
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderGaim Gaim]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=10341#comment-258512 Ryoma Sengoku/Kamen Rider Duke]] (shown to care for Takatora in the sequel movie)
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderExAid Ex-Aid]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=3394#comment-84831 Kuroto Dan/Kamen Rider Genm]] (loved his mother)
** ''[[Film/KamenRiderHibikiAndTheSevenSenki Hibiki And The Seven Senki]]'': Hitotsumi (hot heinous enough for the baseline standard)
** ''[[https://kamenrider.fandom.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Chushingura Chushingura]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=8393#comment-209816 Dr. Kira/Kamen Rider Killer]] (fails the heinous standard of the franchise, especially in comparison to other villains who do far worse)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=303#comment-7573 Masamune Dan]]/[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=304#comment-7585 Kamen Rider Cronus]] (loved his wife)
** ''[[Series/KamenRiderOOO OOO]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12247#comment-306151 Kazari/the Feline Greeed]] (every one of his crimes is replicated and surpassed by other villains, and he frequently gets subjected to EvilerThanThou moments by said villains)
* ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2735#comment-68371 Joseph Serumaga]] (his worst crimes are OffstageVillainy)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivSenw8llok&page=2818#comment-70442 Bill Harris]] (not heinous enough for the series)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11625#comment-290604 Matthew Linwood Brodus]] (shows genuine ~~disgust at~~ affection for his ~~son attempting~~ mother)
* ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=6624#comment-165593 Vandal Savage]] (befriends Ray Palmer in a cameo in season 4)
* ''Series/Legion2017'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7198#comment-179933 Amahl Farouk]] (develops care for David in season 3)
* ''Series/LieToMe'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=11023#comment-275553 Paul Russel]] (fails the heinous standard compared to ~~rape someone~~ the listed villains)
* ''Series/LockeAndKey2020'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12934#comment-323333 The demon possessing Dodge]] (teams up with the heroes to save the world from Gideon in season 3)
* ''Series/TheManFromUNCLE'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12987#comment-324666 Randolph]] (doesn't pass the baseline and ~~follows through on~~ likely fails the standard of the show)
* ''Series/MarcoPolo'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=214#comment-5347 Jia Sidao]] (visibly cries when the concubine who betrayed him commits suicide out of shame. He even says "I loved you" to her beforehand)
* ''Series/MariaLaDelBarrio'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=374#comment-9331 Soraya Montenegro]] (shows regret a few times)
* ''Series/MiamiVice'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12063#comment-301565 Elio Escobar]] (the writeup inaccurately assigned a few crimes to him and he wasn't heinous enough with what he had compared to the other villains)
* ''Series/MrRobot'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7957#comment-198922 Irving]] (fails the series' high heinous standard, as he commits only one murder while other antagonists with similar resources have higher body counts)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7928#comment-198185 Whiterose]] (genuinely loved her boyfriend)
* ''Series/OnlyMurdersInTheBuilding'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12928#comment-323181 Jan Bellows]] (genuinely affable and proven to legitimately care about ex-boyfriend Charles-Haden Savage)
* ''Series/TheOriginals'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7061#comment-176523 Monique Deveraux]] (not bad enough for the setting even with her attempt at killing a baby)
* ''Series/TheOrville'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12864#comment-321577 Kaylon Primary]] (realizes his ~~promise~~ AbsoluteXenophobe beliefs are wrong and agrees to ~~spare~~ peace with the ~~winner~~ Union)
* ''Series/{{Oz}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=1865#comment-46601 Claire Howell]] (indicated to care about her unseen brother)
* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'':
** ''[[Series/PowerRangersLostGalaxy Lost Galaxy]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=118#comment-2940 Deviot]] (not heinous enough)
** ''[[Series/PowerRangersSamurai Samurai]]'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5309#comment-132709 Master Xandred]] (fails the heinous standard compared to Serrator)
* ''Series/PrettyLittleLiars'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=5347#comment-133660 Lyndon James]] (only commits a couple of murders, which fails the baseline and doesn't compare to the other villains who use psychological torture on top of murders)
* ''Series/{{Revolution}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3987#comment-99673 Will Strausser]] (honored a deal he made to Mia with no evidence that it was done out of pragmatism)
* ''Series/RipperStreet'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3285#comment-82108 Jedediah Shine]] (becomes fond of Reid's daughter and spares Reid so as to not leave her an orphan)
* ''Series/{{Slasher}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=93#comment-2313 Iain Vaughn]] (showed remorse for killing his ~~game)~~girlfriend)
* ''Series/TheSopranos'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=351#comment-8763 Livia Soprano]] (genuinely cares for her grandchildren, there are numerous hints that she's mentally ill, and the only person she ever tries to kill is her mob boss son)
** Richie Aprile (while his personality is venal, he fails the show's high heinous standard)
* ''Series/SpartacusBloodAndSand'': Tullius (only commits one murder)
* ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4280#comment-106996 Lore]] (AlasPoorVillain death scene and only became evil due to an error in his programming)
* ''Series/StrangerThings'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12590#comment-314732 Dr. Martin Brenner]] (is shown in Season 4 to care about his test subjects and is horrified when they are all killed and is indicated to care about Eleven)
* ''Franchise/SuperSentai'':
** ''Series/KousokuSentaiTurboranger'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=890#comment-22240 Jarmin]] (mourned the death of a partner)
** ''Series/GoseiSentaiDairanger'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=4987#comment-124659 Lieutenant Colonel Shadam]] (not heinous enough)
** ''Series/MahouSentaiMagiranger'':
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=890#comment-22240 Cyclops]] (not as heinous as Dagon or N Ma)
*** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=890#comment-22240 N Ma]] (not enough motivation; MadeOfEvil)
* ''Series/TeenWolf'':
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3865#comment-96616 Theo Raeken]] (pulls a HeelFaceTurn in season 6)
** [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3857#comment-96406 Jennifer Blake]] (has a FreudianExcuse in being almost murdered by her leader, is a WellIntentionedExtremist who tries to stop the Alpha Pack, and is insufficiently heinous compared to other villains)
* ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=3460#comment-86479 Brian Green]] (he's a DirtyCoward but doesn't do anything other than supporting the Ambassador)
* ''Series/TheTwilightZone1959'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16706336400A42573900&page=337#comment-8401 Pamela Morris]] (not an explicitly high enough body count compared to the others listed)
* ''Series/TheUmbrellaAcademy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=7186#comment-179626 Harold Jenkins]] (original effortpost was found to have falsely attributed trying to destroy the world to him)
* ''W11—Wydział Śledczy'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12051#comment-301260 Witold Tarasiuk]], [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=12444#comment-311079 Mirosław Pielecki and Sebastian Kubczak]] (fail the heinous standard of the show)
* ''Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace'': [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=6vic3f9h1cy5qivsenw8llok&page=262#comment-6548 Gorog]] (PlayedForLaughs and crimes relied on FridgeHorror)
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