History Sandbox / AvengersEndgameNightmareFuel

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-->'''Thanos:''' In all my years of [[GalacticConquerer conquest]], [[BloodKnight violence]], [[OmnicidalManiac slaughter]], [[ButForMeItWasTuesday it was never personal]]. But I'll tell you now, what I'm about to do to your stubborn, annoying little planet... [[KillEmAll I'm gonna enjoy it]]. Very, very much.

* The beginning of the film takes place during the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar decimation]] in Clint's POV. He was just spending an ordinary day with his family when they suddenly disappear without explanation while he wasn't looking. AdultFear couldn't describe how he felt during that moment. What really hits it home is that we see wisps of dust billowing away, but it's such a minuscule amount that it is only because we know what happened in the previous film that we recognize it. To those without that knowledge, like Clint, it's a ''literal'' BlinkAndYouMissIt -- his family disappeared '''[[NothingIsScarier without a trace]]'''.

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** There are also glimpses of Thanos's severed arm, with his purple blood all over the stump. If Stormbreaker weren't ''burning hot to the touch'' during the slice, that wound would be pooling blood all across the floor. If that were to be the case, the film would jump straight into an R rating.
---> '''Mostly seems pretty OK, only the last point seems to be discussing how the scene COULD have played out which is speculation.'''

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* The beginning of the film takes place during the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar decimation]] in Clint's POV. He was just spending an ordinary day with his family when they suddenly disappear without explanation while he wasn't looking. AdultFear couldn't describe how he felt during that moment. What really hits it home is that we see wisps of dust billowing away, but it's such a minuscule amount that it is only because we know what happened in the previous film that we recognize it. To those without that knowledge, like Clint, it's a ''literal'' BlinkAndYouMissIt -- his family disappeared '''[[NothingIsScarier without a trace]]'''.
** Five years later, Clint becomes Ronin and turns to vigilantism, going on a one-man crusade ruthlessly murdering the criminal element that remained after the snap in an attempt to cope with the deaths of his family, [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth clearly bitter that they died while evil thrived]].
--->'''Akihiko:''' ''[in Japanese]'' Why are you doing this!?\\
'''Ronin:''' ''[in Japanese]'' You survived; half the world didn't. They got Thanos. You get me.
** When Natasha and Rhodey are monitoring Clint's movements, Rhodey expresses terror over what Clint has done even admitting to Natasha that a part of him ''doesn't'' want to find him.
** Even worse, Clint is doing his killing ''up close and personal''. With his skills, he could take down his targets without them even knowing he's in the area, but he ''wants'' them to know he's there to kill them. His rage at his family being erased while these criminals were left alive has him consumed with hate, and he's entered into Punisher territory when it comes to his attitude regarding criminals. Not only would this Clint and Frank Castle have no problem teaming up, they could actually be ''friends.''
** It's also possible that he chose the up-close-and-personal approach (consciously or otherwise) so that that sooner or later [[DeathSeeker one of his enemies would manage to kill him]].
---> '''The AdultFear aspect in the first bullet-point was definitely pretty strong, so this one might be keepable. Not sure about his vigilante crusade, but everything else is FridgeHorror.'''

** Made even worse when Scott stops a kid in the street and asks him what happened. The kid doesn't ask where he's been the past few years that he missed it, and doesn't give him an answer. Just gives him a ThousandYardStare and continues biking away. It's like the entire world has PTSD.
** Or worse, that so many people have gone mad with grief, blotting out their own memories of the catastrophe, that it ''doesn't surprise the boy in the least'' to see a distraught, confused man asking what the hell's happened to the world. That kid is young enough that he ''grew up'' in a world where meeting such lost souls is too routine to even bother explaining, anymore.
---> '''Not sure about the first point. Everything below is speculation.'''
* In the immediate aftermath of Thanos’ bombardment of the compound, the explosion has trapped Banner (who's effectively down an arm due to using the Gauntlet), Rhodey (who is paraplegic and now stripped of his mechanical leg braces) and Rocket (who despite his enhancements is [[FurryReminder still a raccoon]] and physically pretty weak) under tons of rubble as water from the river pours in. For anyone suffering from claustrophobia or hydrophobia, it’s a terrifying sequence. Rocket in particular is freaking out.
-->'''Rocket:''' ''[crushed under debris and straining to speak]'' I can't breathe, I can't breathe!
** Rocket is a veteran ''space traveler''. Being unable to breathe is probably one of ''his'' ingrained phobias, for all that it'd be running out of oxygen rather than drowning which he's had cause to worry about most in the past.
** As the place Rhodey and Rocket was close to being flooded, Rhodey says ''"See you on the other side"'' to Rocket, meaning Rhodey was already resigned to the prospect of dying there. Were it not for Scott's rescue, all three Avengers would have drowned, and Rocket would have died without ever having the opportunity to see his resurrected family again.
---> '''The first point is a definite keeper. The rest is speculation and FridgeHorror.'''

* The mission has worked, Hulk has snapped everyone back to life, and Clint has just received exactly what he wanted: his wife ringing his phone, letting him know that, despite the ungodly amount of time, pain and effort it took, everyone’s alive again. Then Hulk looks up and sees Thanos’ mothership in the sky, opening fire on the Avengers' compound.
--> '''This is merely describing a scene, not what makes it scary. It's an action movie, so some violence and explosions are to be expected, especially since no one is seriously hurt or killed by the assault.'''
* It's a subtle one, but Peter Parker's first words to Tony basically confirm that the half of earth being dusted wasn't death as in "being trapped inside the soul stone", '''it was legitimate death'''. Not that most people had any doubt, but still disturbing nonetheless.
--> '''Peter Parker''': Do you remember when we were in Space, and I got all dusty? And then I must have passed out because I woke up and you were gone, but Dr. Strange was there, right, and he was like, "It's been 5 years, come on, they need us!" And then he began doing that yellow sparkly thing he does all the time...
---> '''This one says "subtle" right there. It also reads awfully like "people die when they are killed". Maybe it was scary in the previous movie, but not here.'''

* Seeing Wanda go all-out on Thanos in a psychic RoaringRampageOfRevenge, complete with [[RedEyesTakeWarning blood red]] GlowingEyesOfDoom, and come within '''seconds''' of single-handedly obliterating the Mad Titan. It's undeniably ''awesome'' and cathartic to see her get some much-needed revenge for Vision's brutal death at Thanos's hands but it's genuinely ''terrifying'' to see what she's like when she's enraged and using her powers to her full extent.
** She's so nightmarish that Thanos has to call an orbital bombardment before he's disintegrated. Let it sink in -- the Scarlet Witch made '''Thanos himself''' panic for his life.
** Which is perfectly understandable; since this version of Thanos hails from 2014 (before he killed Vision). Thanos has no idea why Wanda is literally fuming with rage at him, and no clue how potent her powers truly are.
--->'''Wanda:''' [[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. Took. EVERYTHING. From me.]]\\
'''Thanos:''' [[FishOutOfTemporalWater I don’t even know who you are.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[PreAssKickingOneLiner You will.]]
---> '''The only one scared here is Thanos; this is an InUniverse reaction. Nobody will have bad dreams about a superhero attacking a villain, especially when the villain completely deserves it and isn't severely injured by the attack. This is even described as "awesome".'''
* Thanos briefly obtaining and wielding the Infinity Gauntlet during the final battle:
** For one brief moment, Thanos is about to snap his finger when Captain Marvel swoops in to prevent the action. If she had been one second too late...
** The same occurs with Iron Man in the same moment.
---> '''Sure, Thanos held the gauntlet, but he never did anything with it. Speculating on "what if he did" is just that, speculation.'''
* Remember how ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' had noticeably more brutal violence than anything in the MCU previously? This film somehow amps it up. It’s probably only thanks to the inconsistency of MPAA rating system that the movie didn’t get an R rating:
** When Clint slits Akihiko’s throat and blood starts flowing out, followed by Clint cleaning the bloodied sword, [[NeverTrustATrailer a detail that was edited in the trailers]].
** Gamora kicking an enemy alien into a laser beam, practically vaporizing it.
** Then there’s Natasha’s death which while we don’t see the impact, we see the aftermath with a large and detailed pool of blood flowing from her head. A close enough look chose that her eyes are still open.
** As mentioned above, there’s how Tony looks after he’s performed the snap to kill Thanos, which is borderline BodyHorror. Not only does it look like ''his ear look has melted off'' but it looks the entire right side of his body is graphically disintegrating, with the shadows in that scene seemingly done to hide the gore.
** A blink and you’ll miss it moment: during the final battle, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Thanos slices a sorcerer in half]]. On-screen, with it only just covered up by the angle of the camera. Yikes.
** Early on there’s Thanos getting decapitated, which has spurts of purple blood. [[SarcasmMode This lovely image]] is repeated again later as a hologram from the front.
** Speaking of which, by battles end Steve, Tony and Thor look like they’ve been through [[Series/GameOfThrones the Battle of the Bastards]].
---> '''This is an action movie, so some violence is to be expected. The examples that could be worth keeping due to being exceptionally gruesome by the standards of the work (Clint killing Akihiko, Iron Man after the snap, Thanos' decapitation) are already mentioned elsewhere on the page, making this redundant.'''
* The wide shot of Steve facing down the entire army of Thanos, who stretch out as far as the eye can see, completely ready to undo everything the Avengers did by burning Earth to the ground and killing the entire species. But given it’s [[OneManArmy Captain freakin’ America]], [[SugarWiki/CrowningMomentOfAwesome it’s also pretty awesome]].
--> '''This simply describes the scene, then calls it "awesome", without any explanation of what makes it scary.'''

---> '''Mostly seems pretty OK, only the last point seems to be discussing how the scene ''could'' have played out which is speculation.

* The beginning of the film takes place during the [[Film/AvengersInfinityWar decimation]] in Clint's POV. He was just spending an ordinary day with his family when they suddenly disappear without explanation while he wasn't looking. AdultFear couldn't describe how he felt during that moment. What really hits it home is that we see wisps of dust billowing away, but it's such a minuscule amount that it is only because we know what happened in the previous film that we recognize it. To those without that knowledge, like Clint, it's a ''literal'' BlinkAndYouMissIt -- his family disappeared '''[[NothingIsScarier without a trace]]'''.
** Five years later, Clint becomes Ronin and turns to vigilantism, going on a one-man crusade ruthlessly murdering the criminal element that remained after the snap in an attempt to cope with the deaths of his family, [[TooGoodForThisSinfulEarth clearly bitter that they died while evil thrived]].
--->'''Akihiko:''' ''[in Japanese]'' Why are you doing this!?\\
'''Ronin:''' ''[in Japanese]'' You survived; half the world didn't. They got Thanos. You get me.
** When Natasha and Rhodey are monitoring Clint's movements, Rhodey expresses terror over what Clint has done even admitting to Natasha that a part of him ''doesn't'' want to find him.
** Even worse, Clint is doing his killing ''up close and personal''. With his skills, he could take down his targets without them even knowing he's in the area, but he ''wants'' them to know he's there to kill them. His rage at his family being erased while these criminals were left alive has him consumed with hate, and he's entered into Punisher territory when it comes to his attitude regarding criminals. Not only would this Clint and Frank Castle have no problem teaming up, they could actually be ''friends.''
** It's also possible that he chose the up-close-and-personal approach (consciously or otherwise) so that that sooner or later [[DeathSeeker one of his enemies would manage to kill him]].
* The film also shows how places like NYC and San Francisco look like after the Decimation: ''completely lifeless.'' The weather is murky and dark, showing how low the atmosphere has fallen with only half of life on Earth. Keep in mind that Thanos wanted to erase half of life in the universe to have resources last and reduce the risk of the OverpopulationCrisis that befell his home planet, Titan. And this is the end result: Earth didn't thrive, but ''is utterly silenced and rotting.''
** Made even worse when Scott stops a kid in the street and asks him what happened. The kid doesn't ask where he's been the past few years that he missed it, and doesn't give him an answer. Just gives him a ThousandYardStare and continues biking away. It's like the entire world has PTSD.
** Or worse, that so many people have gone mad with grief, blotting out their own memories of the catastrophe, that it ''doesn't surprise the boy in the least'' to see a distraught, confused man asking what the hell's happened to the world. That kid is young enough that he ''grew up'' in a world where meeting such lost souls is too routine to even bother explaining, anymore.

* Think about Scott Lang for a moment. He gets pulled out of the Quantum Realm by a rat randomly hitting the button needed to pull him back. From his perception, he was gone for only five hours. When he gets back, he learns that five years have passed...and the world has lost half its population, including the Pyms and the Wombats. Scott Lang found himself in a BadFuture that few could dream of. The fact that he didn't fall into a HeroicBSOD from sheer horror is phenomenal.
** He finds a memorial to the "Vanished," and frantically searches it while uttering a RapidFireNo, hoping not to see Cassie's name. Her name isn't there, but another one is. . . '''his own'''. His little girl thinks her father, her hero, has been dead for five years. . . and Scott Lang has missed five years of his beloved daughter's life.

* Think about the Battle of New York in the new timeline, from the point of view of the original Avengers of that period. The battle is won, Loki is in custody, the Tesseract and the Sceptre are being taken away. Then suddenly Tony has a heart attack and in the confusion Loki grabs the Tesseract and teleports away, while (as far as they can tell) someone who may be Loki or an unknown third party impersonates Captain America and tricks S.H.I.E.L.D. into giving him the Sceptre. Also keep in mind Loki's objective was to get the Tesseract to Thanos and he's probably going to go deliver it now, and the HYDRA agents inside S.H.I.E.L.D. think Steve Rogers has joined them. Whatever is going to happen in the future of this timeline, it can't be good.
** The heart attack becomes worse when you remember that Tony alrady had a near-death experience just about an hour ago. The others might be worried if it's a side effect of whatever happened to him in space.

* The mission has worked, Hulk has snapped everyone back to life, and Clint has just received exactly what he wanted: his wife ringing his phone, letting him know that, despite the ungodly amount of time, pain and effort it took, everyone’s alive again. Then Hulk looks up and sees Thanos’ mothership in the sky, opening fire on the Avengers' compound.

* It's a subtle one, but Peter Parker's first words to Tony basically confirm that the half of earth being dusted wasn't death as in "being trapped inside the soul stone", '''it was legitimate death'''. Not that most people had any doubt, but still disturbing nonetheless.
--> '''Peter Parker''': Do you remember when we were in Space, and I got all dusty? And then I must have passed out because I woke up and you were gone, but Dr. Strange was there, right, and he was like, "It's been 5 years, come on, they need us!" And then he began doing that yellow sparkly thing he does all the time...
* As screamingly awesome a moment as it is, Spider-Man going all-out and activating Instant Kill mode (Pictured above) turns him into an eight-legged whirlwind of death, stabbing Outriders to death with his mechanical arms almost faster than the eye can see, complete with GlowingEyesOfDoom. One shudders to think what such a function could be used for if not facing an enemy as monstrous as Thanos and his armies...
** This needs some elaboration: Thanos poses such a great threat, and his armies are in such great, deadly numbers, that '''''Spider-Man''''', traditionally established to follow the rule of ThouShaltNotKill... ''has no choice but to resort to killing.'' To be fair, these creatures are shown to be mindless monsters rather than intelligent soldiers, but it's still quite a striking image.
* Seeing Wanda go all-out on Thanos in a psychic RoaringRampageOfRevenge, complete with [[RedEyesTakeWarning blood red]] GlowingEyesOfDoom, and come within '''seconds''' of single-handedly obliterating the Mad Titan. It's undeniably ''awesome'' and cathartic to see her get some much-needed revenge for Vision's brutal death at Thanos's hands but it's genuinely ''terrifying'' to see what she's like when she's enraged and using her powers to her full extent.
** She's so nightmarish that Thanos has to call an orbital bombardment before he's disintegrated. Let it sink in -- the Scarlet Witch made '''Thanos himself''' panic for his life.
** Which is perfectly understandable; since this version of Thanos hails from 2014 (before he killed Vision). Thanos has no idea why Wanda is literally fuming with rage at him, and no clue how potent her powers truly are.
--->'''Wanda:''' [[PunctuatedForEmphasis You. Took. EVERYTHING. From me.]]\\
'''Thanos:''' [[FishOutOfTemporalWater I don’t even know who you are.]]\\
'''Wanda:''' [[PreAssKickingOneLiner You will.]]

* Thanos briefly obtaining and wielding the Infinity Gauntlet during the final battle:
** For one brief moment, Thanos is about to snap his finger when Captain Marvel swoops in to prevent the action. If she had been one second too late...
** The same occurs with Iron Man in the same moment.

* Remember how ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' had noticeably more brutal violence than anything in the MCU previously? This film somehow amps it up. It’s probably only thanks to the inconsistency of MPAA rating system that the movie didn’t get an R rating:
** When Clint slits Akihiko’s throat and blood starts flowing out, followed by Clint cleaning the bloodied sword, [[NeverTrustATrailer a detail that was edited in the trailers]].
** Gamora kicking an enemy alien into a laser beam, practically vaporizing it.
** Then there’s Natasha’s death which while we don’t see the impact, we see the aftermath with a large and detailed pool of blood flowing from her head. A close enough look chose that her eyes are still open.
** As mentioned above, there’s how Tony looks after he’s performed the snap to kill Thanos, which is borderline BodyHorror. Not only does it look like ''his ear look has melted off'' but it looks the entire right side of his body is graphically disintegrating, with the shadows in that scene seemingly done to hide the gore.
** A blink and you’ll miss it moment: during the final battle, [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath Thanos slices a sorcerer in half]]. On-screen, with it only just covered up by the angle of the camera. Yikes.
** Early on there’s Thanos getting decapitated, which has spurts of purple blood. [[SarcasmMode This lovely image]] is repeated again later as a hologram from the front.
** Speaking of which, by battles end Steve, Tony and Thor look like they’ve been through [[Series/GameOfThrones the Battle of the Bastards]].