History RuinedFOREVER / Music

* Some fans say indie rock bands like Grizzly Bear and Music/FlorenceAndTheMachine were DarthWiki/RuinedFOREVER by contributing to the ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' soundtrack.

** Shortly after the release of '''Apollo 18''', the band decided to get a backing band for live performances due to both feeling that they had exhausted their potential with the lo-fi approach they took, as well as pressure from their label, Elektra. When it was announced that they would be once again be using a backing band for their album '''John Henry''', this alienated many of the fans who liked their lo-fi music style, resulting in them being ''RUINED FOREVER''. This aspect has calmed down over the years though, and is not as contentious as it was once before.
** When the band started collaborating with Disney to make children's albums, they were ''RUINED FOREVER'' in the eyes of some fans, who thought that they were selling out and not taking music "seriously". This actually happened twice; once in 2004 when '''Here Come the ABCs''' was announced, and again in 2009 when fans thought that the band was more focused on children's music due to releasing two children's albums in a row and engaging with Playhouse Disney more. Over the years, the albums have gained many older fans who consider them to be just as witty and fun as their adult albums, and while there is still somewhat of a divide, it wasn't as big as it was before.

* This can often happen when a singer-songwriter that is not well-known in the mainstream features on a track by a mainstream artist, [[ItsPopularNowItSucks which then becomes better-known than anything they had done before]]. An example of this would be the negative response from many fans of Sia Furler to her collaborations with David Guetta and Flo Rida.

* Music/ArcadeFire were either ''RUINED FOREVER'' when they won the Grammy for Album of the Year for ''The Suburbs'' (which some declared to be them becoming sell-outs), or when they dropped their whimsical indie sound for SynthPop on ''Everything Now''.

** Divided fanbases are not uncommon to find because of this. Someone might tell you to listen to a certain album but not another, for example. It's even worse if a long-time member leaves the group. For example, Tarja Turunen's departure from Music/{{Nightwish}} caused a storm between several fans.

* Similarly to Yes, Music/{{Genesis}} was Ruined Forever when Music/PeterGabriel left and Music/PhilCollins took over lead vocals and moved Genesis to a more mainstream sound. Similarly, when ''Collins'' left and Ray Wilson took over, though ''...Calling All Stations...'' did seem to have lasting negative effects. In fact, the HateDumb for Collins' solo career took to the mainstream because of the belief of certain members of the FanDumb of Gabriel-era Genesis that Collins ruined the band forever.

* Music/TheWiggles is replacing Greg with some guy named Sam because Greg has health issues? ''RUINED FOREVER!''

** And then TrapMusic became big after crossing over into the mainstream - cue an unlikely alliance of old-school hip-hop fans and fans of rock & metal (the latter because trap helped hip-hop overtake rock as the popular form of music in 2018) deriding it too for not being real music, and again claiming that true hip-hop ceased to exist once the 2000's ended.

** Even worse now with the advent of "mumble rap" - expect to find a myriad of comments talking about how "mumble rap" isn't music and that true hip-hop ceased to exist after 2000.

* After years of being bashed for their artsy prog-rock pretentiousness, Music/{{Yes}} released their ''90125'' album with a more conventional rock sound--and were immediately declared Ruined Forever. When they later moved back towards prog-rock with ''Union'' and ''Keys to Ascension'', much of their ''90125''-''Big Generator'' fanbase likewise declared Yes to be Ruined Forever.

*** Doesn't help the fact that Justin Timberlake was part of the Boybands ruined music scene before that. At least he's hanging with cool people now.

* The Brazilian singer Latino (who is already a point of contention in his country), after making his version of [[Music.{{PSY}} "Gangnam Style"]], turning it into a dirty song, revolted many people including his own fanbase. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgNf8VpgWjM The song's music video (dead link)]] was the most disliked video on Website/YouTube Brazil until the removal request by Universal Music was granted.

* Similarly to Yes, Music/{{Genesis}} was Ruined Forever when Music/PeterGabriel left and Music/PhilCollins took over lead vocals and moved Genesis to a more mainstream sound. Similarly, when ''Collins'' left and Ray Wilson took over, though ''...Calling All Stations...'' did seem to have lasting negative effects.

* Many music critics and music elitists will tell you that rock was ruined ''FOREVER AND EVER'' once Creator/{{MTV}} premiered. Or when HairMetal became big. Or when NuMetal became big. Or when PostGrunge became big.

* Many classic rock fans will tell you that rock was ruined once Creator/{{MTV}} premiered.
** For other classic rock fans, the cutoff may be the rise of {{Grunge}} in the early 90's.

* Fans of Music/AgainstMe claimed the band sold out when they moved from the tiny No Idea label to Fat Wreck Chords in 2003, to the point where fans slashed the tires of the bands tour van and vandalised it and reportedly poured bleached over their merch table. The bizarre thing is that Fat Wreck Chords was well known for being anti-establishment indie label. Ironically, there was a lot less outcry when the band left FWC for an actual major label, Creator/SireRecords, in 2007.

** Many fans of the NewWave/NewRomantic era think it was ruined forever as soon as DD got big on MTV.

* Music/TheWiggles is replacing Greg with some guy named Sam because Greg has health issues? ''RUINED, MATE!''
** And now they're replacing Greg, Murray, and Jeff with a chick and two new guys just after Greg returned to the group?!? ''RUINED FOREVER, MATE!''