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* VerySpecialEpisode: [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E7ParentalGlideance Once again]], an episode about communicating with AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents aired around Mother's Day and Father's Day, with this episode airing the weekend before Mother's Day.
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* EveryoneCanSeeIt: A non-romantic example. The townsponies were all aware that the real problem was with Starlight, Sunburst and their parents.
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* EveryoneCanSeeIt: A non-romantic example. The townsponies were all aware can plainly see that the real friendship problem was with Starlight, Starlight and Sunburst and are looking for is with their parents.parents, but the two are in denial until they reach the conclusion on their own.
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* {{Fauxshadow}}: At first, the episode's conflict seems to be between Firelight and Stellar Flare. However, they are able to resolve their differences quickly and painlessly. The true conflict is between them and their children.
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* [[LikeParentLikeSpouse Like Parent Like Platonic Life Partner]]: It's been noted that Starlight and Stellar Flare [[https://derpibooru.org/1725833 have a lot of mannerisms in common]].
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'''Stellar Flare:''' ... This is a terrible apology.
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'''Stellar Flare:''' ... This is a terrible apology.
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* OverlyLongGag: Sunburst's mother enchanted the gate at the entrance to the town to announce "Welcome to Sire's Hollow!" whenever it's opened. At one point, Sunburst repeatedly closes and opens the gate to demonstrate to her [[MostAnnoyingSound how annoying it is]]. Even Stellar Flare comes to agree that it's annoying.
-->'''Gate recording:''' Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!\\
-->'''Gate recording:''' Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!\\
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* OverlyLongGag: Sunburst's mother enchanted the gate at the entrance to the town to announce "Welcome to Sire's Hollow!" whenever it's opened. At one point, Sunburst repeatedly closes and opens the gate to demonstrate to her [[MostAnnoyingSound how annoying it is]]. Even Stellar Flare comes to agree that it's annoying.
with how obnoxious it is.
-->'''Gate recording:'''Welcome ''Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!\\Hollow!''\\
-->'''Gate recording:'''
* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially if ''he'' didn't come up with them. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
* RedHerring: At first, the episode's conflict seems to be a clear-cut case of FeudingFamilies between Firelight and Stellar Flare. However, they are able to resolve their differences quickly and painlessly. The true conflict is between them and their children.
* RedHerring: At first, the episode's conflict seems to be a clear-cut case of FeudingFamilies between Firelight and Stellar Flare. However, they are able to resolve their differences quickly and painlessly. The true conflict is between them and their children.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially if ''he'' didn't come up with them. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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* [[LikeParentLikeSpouse Like Parent Like Platonic Life Partner]]: It's been noted that Starlight and Stellar Flare [[https://derpibooru.org/1725833 have a lot of mannerisms in common]].
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[BrokenRecord Welcome to Sire's Hollow!]]]]
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* TheToothHurts: When showing off the rock-hard bread made with "ancient pony grains", Firelight says that it's just like the kind that Sire's Hollow's founders used to eat. The next shot cuts to a picture of the founders in questions, all of whom have mouths full of broken, dislocated or outright missing teeth, by implication the result of a lifetime of dental trauma from eating food with the consistency of concrete.
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-->'''Gate recording:''' "Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!"
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' "Okay, it's annoying, I get it."
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' "Okay, it's annoying, I get it."
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-->'''Gate recording:''' "Welcome Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!"
-->'''StellarHollow!\\
'''Stellar Flare:'''"Okay, Okay, it's annoying, I get it."
-->'''Stellar
'''Stellar Flare:'''
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-->"Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow! Welcome to Sire's Hollow!"
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-->'''Stellar Flare:''' "Okay, it's annoying, I get it."
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-->'''Starlight:''' You don't think that's it, do you?
-->'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
-->'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
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-->'''Starlight:''' You don't think that's it, do you?
-->'''Baker:'''you?\\
'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
-->'''Baker:'''
'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
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* FailedASpotCheck: Starlight and Sunburst try to hide from their parents by meeting with other locals in an obscure corner of the bookstore. Somehow, nopony notices that Firelight is perched on a ladder, directly overhead, until he speaks up. (And Firelight doesn't notice ''them'' until the baker raises his voice.)
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* FailedASpotCheck: FailedASpotCheck:
** Sunburst is easily distracted and often miss things around him, like not noting that the mailpony is waiting for a tip, or slamming in the Sire's Hollow's entrance gate because he is talking to Starlight.
** Starlight and Sunburst try to hide from their parents by meeting with other locals in an obscure corner of the bookstore. Somehow, nopony notices that Firelight is perched on a ladder, directly overhead, until he speaks up. (And Firelight doesn't notice ''them'' until the baker raises his voice.)
** Sunburst is easily distracted and often miss things around him, like not noting that the mailpony is waiting for a tip, or slamming in the Sire's Hollow's entrance gate because he is talking to Starlight.
** Starlight and Sunburst try to hide from their parents by meeting with other locals in an obscure corner of the bookstore. Somehow, nopony notices that Firelight is perched on a ladder, directly overhead, until he speaks up. (And Firelight doesn't notice ''them'' until the baker raises his voice.)
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-->'''Sunburst:''' I came to apologize.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendship problem.
-->'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problem is.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...this is a terrible apology.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendship problem.
-->'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problem is.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...this is a terrible apology.
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-->'''Sunburst:''' I came to apologize.
-->'''Stellarapologize.\\
'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendshipproblem.
-->'''Sunburst:'''problem.\\
'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problemis.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...thisis.\\
'''Stellar Flare:''' ... This is a terrible apology.
-->'''Stellar
'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendship
-->'''Sunburst:'''
'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problem
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...this
'''Stellar Flare:''' ... This is a terrible apology.
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-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] I only ask as an interested observer since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] without help from anypony else. [''whines before silently crying'']
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-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] ''[irritated]'' Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] ''[detatched]'' How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] ''[breaking down]'' I only ask as an interested observer since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] ''[visibly tearing]'' without help from anypony else. [''whines ''[whines before silently crying'']crying]''
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Stellar Flare's constant forced planning of Sunburst's future combined with constantly driving him to succeed may give out vibes of young adults at the age whose parents are constantly hounding them to choose between pursuing higher education or getting a job.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything:
** Stellar Flare's constant forced planning of Sunburst's future combined with constantly driving him to succeed may give out vibes of young adults at the age whose parents are constantly hounding them to choose between pursuing higher education or getting ajob.job.
** A bit lower key, Stellar Flare also constantly frets over her son's appearance, adjusting his hair and pulling on his clothing, and generally having little respect for his personal space.
** Stellar Flare's constant forced planning of Sunburst's future combined with constantly driving him to succeed may give out vibes of young adults at the age whose parents are constantly hounding them to choose between pursuing higher education or getting a
** A bit lower key, Stellar Flare also constantly frets over her son's appearance, adjusting his hair and pulling on his clothing, and generally having little respect for his personal space.
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-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] I only ask as an interested since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] without help from anypony else. [''whines before silently crying'']
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-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] I only ask as an interested observer since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] without help from anypony else. [''whines before silently crying'']
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* MadeMyselfSad: Firelight, after getting chewed out by Starlight, walks away seemingly irritated and annoyed. When Starlight visits him later, he starts out cold and detached, but quickly tears up the further he goes.
-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] I only ask as an interested since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] without help from anypony else. [''whines before silently crying'']
-->'''Firelight:''' [''irritated''] Hello, Ms. Glimmer. [''detatched''] How is your friendship problem search going? [''breaking down''] I only ask as an interested since I know you are an adult who is capable of doing things [''visibly tearing''] without help from anypony else. [''whines before silently crying'']
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* BluntYes: Sunburst brings up the idea that smoothing things over with the parents could be the friendship problem. When Starlight asks if that is really it, the Baker pony gives this answer almost immediately.
-->'''Starlight:''' You don't think that's it, do you?
-->'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
-->'''Starlight:''' You don't think that's it, do you?
-->'''Baker:''' Well, that's what all of us think.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Sunburst, usually kind even if he's occasionally ditzy or absorbed in research, gets visibly and demonstrably angry when Stellar Flare continues to push his limits.
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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: Sunburst, usually kind even if he's occasionally ditzy or absorbed in research, gets visibly and demonstrably angry when Stellar Flare continues to push his limits. It's enough to make his mother, up until that point a pretty headstrong mare, break down in tears and run away crying.
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* LiteralMinded: Stellar Flare, of a sort.
-->'''Sunburst:''' I came to apologize.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendship problem.
-->'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problem is.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...this is a terrible apology.
-->'''Sunburst:''' I came to apologize.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' Well, it's going to take more than an apology to make up for telling me you don't want my help finding your friendship problem.
-->'''Sunburst:''' Oh, I'm not sorry for that. Starlight and I already figured out what the problem is.
-->'''Stellar Flare:''' ...this is a terrible apology.
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* {{Adorkable}}: Sunburst when he learns he is being called by the map.
-->'''Sunburst:''' My cutie mark is glowing! I know what this means! Why am I yelling?!
-->'''Sunburst:''' My cutie mark is glowing! I know what this means! Why am I yelling?!
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-->'''Sunburst:'''
%%-->'''Sunburst:''' My cutie mark is glowing! I know what this means! Why am I
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* CallingTheOldManOut: Starlight and Sunburst both call out their respective parents for meddling with them too much.
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* HaHaHaNo: This is the response of one of the librarian ponies when Starlight asks whether they can hold the books at all in the "preserved" library.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Spike brags about his own friendship mission, which turned out to involve fixing a problem he caused. Ultimately, Starlight and Sunburst learn that they caused this episode's problem by avoiding their parents.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
** Spike brags about his own friendship mission, which turned out to involve fixing a problem he caused. Ultimately, Starlight and Sunburst learn that they caused this episode's problem by avoiding theirparents.parents.
** That both parents are going overboard with their efforts for looking after Sire's Hollow, despite having started with reasonable motivations, also kind of mirrors that both have gone overboard with their smothering of their children despite having started with good intentions.
** Spike brags about his own friendship mission, which turned out to involve fixing a problem he caused. Ultimately, Starlight and Sunburst learn that they caused this episode's problem by avoiding their
** That both parents are going overboard with their efforts for looking after Sire's Hollow, despite having started with reasonable motivations, also kind of mirrors that both have gone overboard with their smothering of their children despite having started with good intentions.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Spike is quick to brag to Sunburst about how he has seen his share of map missions and offers him advice (to the point of calling himself an "expert"), even though he himself has only had ''one'' mission before and conveniently forgets to mention it was mission to solve a problem ''he'' caused.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Spike is quick to brag to Sunburst about how he has seen his share of map missions and offers him advice (to the point of calling himself an "expert"), even though he himself has only had ''one'' mission before and conveniently forgets to mention it was a mission to solve a problem ''he'' caused.
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It's on the opposite side of the continent, which wouldn't be the first time the Map mixed things up
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* WorldBuilding: Starlight and Sunburst's hometown is revisited, given a name, and given focus throughout the episode. Its location is also shown on the map, being near to Rainbow Falls.
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* WorldBuilding: Starlight and Sunburst's hometown is revisited, given a name, and given focus throughout the episode. Its location is also shown on the map, being near to Rainbow Falls.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially not ones he didn't come up. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially not ones he if ''he'' didn't come up.up with them. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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Solar Flare is the fan name for Daybreaker, Stellar Flare is sunburst's mother.
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* YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle: Starlight and Sunburst help mediate Firelight and Solar Flare's dispute over what to do with the town. Sunburst thinks this is the friendship problem the Cutie Map sent them to resolve -- until Starlight points out that their cutie marks aren't glowing, so the real problem still hasn't been fixed.
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* YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle: Starlight and Sunburst help mediate Firelight and Solar Stellar Flare's dispute over what to do with the town. Sunburst thinks this is the friendship problem the Cutie Map sent them to resolve -- until Starlight points out that their cutie marks aren't glowing, so the real problem still hasn't been fixed.
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* OffModel: During the montage in the second act, Stellar Flare's coat is a much lighter shade of orange when she opens the gate.
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** The parent-child name plays on close meanings. A "stellar flare" can be seen as a type of sun burst, while "firelight" would be a low-level of lighting like the glimmer off stars.
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* MessyMaleFancyFemale: In addition to trying to get him to have a plan, Stellar Flare also silently and forcefully tries to deal with Sunburst's messy mane, even at one point trying to cut off his goatee in mid-conversation.
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Separately, the two work to find what the problem may be, with their respective parents wanting to help given the importance of the mission. But this sets off past behaviors that irks both Starlight and Sunburst. Firelight wants to keep treating Starlight as a young filly, while Stellar Flare wants to make sure Sunburst has a direction for his life. Both Starlight and Sunburst yell at their parents, and soon realize the friendship problem to solve is the broken relationship they each have with their parents.
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Separately, the two work to find what the problem may be, with their respective parents wanting to help given the importance of the mission. But this sets off past behaviors that irks both Starlight and Sunburst. Firelight wants to keep treating Starlight as a young filly, filly and tries to help through lecturing her on his vast knowledge of the history of Sire's Hollow hoping they can discover the friendship problem that way, while Stellar Flare wants to make sure Sunburst has a direction for his life. life, and thus tries to manufacture a friendship problem for Sunburst to solve so that he can keep on being assigned more such missions. Both Starlight and Sunburst yell at their parents, and parents that their help isn't needed. Both soon realize the friendship problem to solve is the broken relationship they each have with their parents.
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* TheReasonYouSuchSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially not ones he didn't come up. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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* TheReasonYouSuchSpeech: TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially not ones he didn't come up. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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* TheReasonYouSuchSpeech: After an episode of their parents meddling in their own respective ways, Starlight and Sunburst finally get a few words in edge-wise. Starlight voices to Firelight how she's not a little filly anymore and that she's sick of him babying her. Meanwhile, Sunburst argues with his mother that he doesn't want any plans, especially not ones he didn't come up. Deconstructed, however, when it turns out their relationship with their parents is the Friendship Problem, and yelling that they don't need them has only exacerbated it.
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* GenerationXerox: Firelight is obsessed with the past, has difficulty accepting that his relationship with his daughter has changed, and wants to preserve his town exactly as it is. His daughter Starlight [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E26TheCutieRemarkPart2 was obsessed with a moment from her own past]], [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E24UncommonBond had difficulty accepting that her relationship with Sunburst had changed, and tried to use magic to preserve it exactly as it had been]].
