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'''Season 2, Episode 19:'''
!Divided Loyalties
!Divided Loyalties
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!Divided Loyalties
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: Accompanied by ExcessiveSteamSyndrome, the Martian sewer in the cold open was quite huge.
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: Accompanied by ExcessiveSteamSyndrome, the Martian sewer in the cold open was is quite huge.
* BuryYourGays: Ivanova and Talia are all but confirmed to be a couple, only for Talia's personality to be permanently erased, essentially killing her.
* TheBusCameBack: Lyta Alexander comes back to the show.
* TheBusCameBack: Lyta Alexander comes back to the show.
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* TheBusCameBack: Lyta Alexander comes back to the show.
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The only reason the HomoeroticSubtext between Ivanova and Talia isn't text is fear of reprisal from the MoralGuardians. Note that the famous ComingOutStory episode of ''Series/{{Ellen}}'' would not air for another seventeen months.
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* DramaticIrony: Aside from the fact this episode establishes just how close Ivanova and Talia have become, only for the latter to be revealed as a ManchurianAgent, lose her entire personality (and caring for Ivanova), and leave without a backward glance, but one of the last things Talia says to Susan before Lyta activates Control is that the only person she trusts is her.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. [[spoiler: His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite similar.]]
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
** Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. [[spoiler: His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite similar.]]
** Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. [[spoiler: His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite similar.]]
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* RedHerring: Those who were in the know about Laurel Takashima's original planned storyline suspected Ivanova would be the mole in the senior crew. Her reluctance to be scanned was another false indication in that direction. Doctor Franklin similarly acts a bit cagey when they're discussing the situation, pacing in the background.
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* RedHerring: RedHerring:
** Those who were in the know about Laurel Takashima's original planned storyline suspected Ivanova would be the mole in the senior crew. Her reluctance to be scanned was another false indication in that direction. Doctor Franklin similarly acts a bit cagey when they're discussing the situation, pacing in the background.
** Those who were in the know about Laurel Takashima's original planned storyline suspected Ivanova would be the mole in the senior crew. Her reluctance to be scanned was another false indication in that direction. Doctor Franklin similarly acts a bit cagey when they're discussing the situation, pacing in the background.
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* TheConfidant: Ivanova reveals Sheridan that she's a latent telepath.
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* TheConfidant: Ivanova reveals to Sheridan that she's a latent telepath.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Andrea Thompson was reportedly a nightmare to work with, demanding more and more to be the center of attention of the whole show until she finally quit, not willing to wait for what JMS promised would be a quite meaty arc which, in a case {{Irony}}, instead went to Lyta.
** The reality may be more prosaic. Andrea Thompson married and divorced [[Creator/JerryDoyle Jerry Doyle]] between Seasons 1 and 2, and by all accounts she asked to leave because the working situation was uncomfortable for both of them - note that there are very few scenes where Talia and Garibaldi are both present in the second season. Given we now know that rumours regarding female actors being "difficult" during this time tend to be dubious in origin, along with the fact that Andrea Thompson seems to have a good rapport with the rest of the cast (including Doyle) when they appear on convention panels, this is arguably closer to the true story.
** Though JMS himself notes on the commentary track that Thompson was wanting more character focus than the current arc of the show could provide (binge the first few seasons, and it's alarming how infrequently Talia even turns up in an episode, let alone plays a major role; just look how many episodes are between this and Lyta returning again to kick off that "meaty arc" JMS promised). It's conceivable that having her character more fully utilized could have enticed Thompson to stay, but the awkwardness of working with her ex meant she wasn't willing to wait for it. Making it a "little column A, little column B" situation.
** The reality may be more prosaic. Andrea Thompson married and divorced [[Creator/JerryDoyle Jerry Doyle]] between Seasons 1 and 2, and by all accounts she asked to leave because the working situation was uncomfortable for both of them - note that there are very few scenes where Talia and Garibaldi are both present in the second season. Given we now know that rumours regarding female actors being "difficult" during this time tend to be dubious in origin, along with the fact that Andrea Thompson seems to have a good rapport with the rest of the cast (including Doyle) when they appear on convention panels, this is arguably closer to the true story.
** Though JMS himself notes on the commentary track that Thompson was wanting more character focus than the current arc of the show could provide (binge the first few seasons, and it's alarming how infrequently Talia even turns up in an episode, let alone plays a major role; just look how many episodes are between this and Lyta returning again to kick off that "meaty arc" JMS promised). It's conceivable that having her character more fully utilized could have enticed Thompson to stay, but the awkwardness of working with her ex meant she wasn't willing to wait for it. Making it a "little column A, little column B" situation.
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* RealLifeWritesThePlot: Rumors abound as to why Andrea Thompson was reportedly a nightmare to work with, demanding more and more to be left the center of attention of the whole show until she finally quit, not willing to wait for show, but what JMS promised would be a quite meaty arc which, in a case {{Irony}}, instead went to Lyta.
** The reality may be more prosaic. Andrea Thompsonis ''known'' is that she and Jerry Doyle had gotten married and then divorced [[Creator/JerryDoyle Jerry Doyle]] between Seasons 1 seasons one and 2, two, and by all accounts she asked to leave because the working situation was uncomfortable for both of them - note that there are very few scenes where Talia and Garibaldi are both present in was a lot of tension on the second season. Given we now know that rumours regarding female actors being "difficult" during this time tend to be dubious in origin, along set between them. Andrea was also reportedly unsatisfied with the fact that Andrea Thompson seems to have a good rapport with the rest amount of the cast (including Doyle) when they appear on convention panels, this is arguably closer to the true story.
** Though JMS himself notes on the commentary track that Thompson was wanting more character focus than the current arc of the show could provide (binge the first few seasons, and it's alarming how infrequently Talia even turns up in an episode, let alone plays a major role; just look how many episodes are between this and Lyta returning again to kick off that "meaty arc" JMS promised). It's conceivable that havingscreentime her character more fully utilized could have enticed Thompson to stay, but the awkwardness of working with her ex meant she wasn't willing received, and didn't want to wait for it. Making it a "little column A, little column B" situation.the promised "meatier" arc that JMS said was coming in the future. So Talia Winters was written off the show, and her future arc given to Lyta Alexander.
** The reality may be more prosaic. Andrea Thompson
** Though JMS himself notes on the commentary track that Thompson was wanting more character focus than the current arc of the show could provide (binge the first few seasons, and it's alarming how infrequently Talia even turns up in an episode, let alone plays a major role; just look how many episodes are between this and Lyta returning again to kick off that "meaty arc" JMS promised). It's conceivable that having
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.butts.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.
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butts.* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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** Though JMS himself notes on the commentary track that Thompson was wanting more character focus than the current arc of the show could provide (binge the first few seasons, and it's alarming how infrequently Talia even turns up in an episode, let alone plays a major role; just look how many episodes are between this and Lyta returning again to kick off that "meaty arc" JMS promised). It's conceivable that having her character more fully utilized could have enticed Thompson to stay, but the awkwardness of working with her ex meant she wasn't willing to wait for it. Making it a "little column A, little column B" situation.
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** The reality may be more prosaic. Andrea Thompson married and divorced [[Creator/JerryDoyle Jerry Doyle]] between Seasons 1 and 2, and by all accounts she asked to leave because the working situation was uncomfortable for both of them - note that there are very few scenes where Talia and Garibaldi are both present in the second season. Given we now know that rumours regarding female actors being "difficult" during this time tend to be dubious in origin, along with the fact that Andrea Thompson seems to have a good rapport with the rest of the cast (including Doyle) when they appear on convention panels, this is arguably closer to the true story.
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* CoverBlowingSuperpower: Averted with Ivanova, who almost revealed her telepathic talents to everyone by inadvertently blocking Lyta telepathically. A variation occurs with Talia, however...
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* IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight: Ivanova and Talia's parting words to each other is quite sad. Ivanova pretty much says that she believes the real Talia is somewhere in there, but the ManchurianAgent personality mocks her for this belief.
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* AlmostKiss: There is a persistent rumor that Talia & Ivanova kissed in the scene in the latter's quarters after Talia showered (but was edited out in fear of Censureship). The way the scene is cut seems to imply it, but JMS has repeatedly denied that it happened/had been edited out.
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** Garibaldi asks about Zach still wearing the [[{{Recap/BabylonFiveS02E16InTheShadowOfZHaDum}} Nightwatch patch from a previous episode]]
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* PercussiveTherapy: Ivanova appears to be rummaging through her cabinets...[[WorkingOutTheirEmotions angrily]], then kicks one. Talia jokes that Ivanova kicked it so hard it won't bother them anymore.
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* RedFilterOfDoom: When Lyta was attacked by an unknown assailant, [[HackTheTrafficLights the hallways lights were hacked]] and turn red just as the shooting starts.
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* FakeDefector: Garibaldi pretends to be one for a hot moment as a prank.
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* Zeerust: The "futuristic" personalized edition of a newspaper acquires this quality in hindsight once the internet and smartphones became the norm.
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* Zeerust: {{Zeerust}}: The "futuristic" personalized edition of a newspaper acquires this quality in hindsight once the internet and smartphones became the norm.
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* AbsurdlySpaciousSewer: Accompanied by ExcessiveSteamSyndrome, the Martian sewer in the cold open was quite huge.
* OurShowersAreDifferent: Well...the toilets. There's the ones designed for humans and then the ones used by the pak'ma'ra. Garibaldi & Sheridan use the restroom as an OvertRendezvous.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.backstory.
* Zeerust: The "futuristic" personalized edition of a newspaper acquires this quality in hindsight once the internet and smartphones became the norm.
* Zeerust: The "futuristic" personalized edition of a newspaper acquires this quality in hindsight once the internet and smartphones became the norm.
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* RedHerring: Those who were in the know about Laurel Takashima's original planned storyline suspected Ivanova would be the mole in the senior crew. Her reluctance to be scanned was another false indication in that direction.
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* RedHerring: Those who were in the know about Laurel Takashima's original planned storyline suspected Ivanova would be the mole in the senior crew. Her reluctance to be scanned was another false indication in that direction. Doctor Franklin similarly acts a bit cagey when they're discussing the situation, pacing in the background.
** Shortly before Lyta is attacked in the hallway, Talia wakes to find Ivanova gone from bed. Talia's not wearing her gloves either, implying that Ivanova took them.
** Similarly, the attack is only possible because Garibaldi ordered Zack to have Lyta moved to more comfortable quarters.
** Shortly before Lyta is attacked in the hallway, Talia wakes to find Ivanova gone from bed. Talia's not wearing her gloves either, implying that Ivanova took them.
** Similarly, the attack is only possible because Garibaldi ordered Zack to have Lyta moved to more comfortable quarters.
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.
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* SeinfeldianConversation: Sheridan and Delenn talking about butts.butts.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
* SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute: This episode addresses that both Talia Winters and Doctor Franklin are examples, mentioning their predecessors, Lyta Alexander ([[TheBusCameBack who shows up in this episode]]) and Doctor Kyle, both who were reassigned due to coming in contact with Kosh without the protection of his encounter suit. As it happens, Garibaldi is the only member of the command staff who was present for the events of the pilot, with Commander Ivanova replacing Lt. Commander Takashima, and Captain Sheridan replacing Commander Sinclair a season later. As a result, Garibaldi is the one to fill everyone else in on the backstory.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite similar.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Ivanova has a secret, and is afraid her friends will never be able to trust her after finding out she's been lying to them all this time. She confides this to Talia, while they are lounging about in Ivanova's quarters, making the whole thing come off as Ivanova being a closeted lesbian or bisexual. [[spoiler: It turns out she's a telepath who has escaped the notice of the Psi-Corps. It is later clarified that she was also in love with Talia, but her bisexuality never comes up as something anyone seems concerned about.]]
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. [[spoiler: His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quitesimilar. similar.]]
** Quite a bit of attention is drawn to how suspicious Ivanova is acting, lashing out at the idea of letting a telepath into her brain, leaving her quarters in the night to go for a walk, etc. [[spoiler: She's not Control, but she is hiding that she's a telepath.]]
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. [[spoiler: His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite
** Quite a bit of attention is drawn to how suspicious Ivanova is acting, lashing out at the idea of letting a telepath into her brain, leaving her quarters in the night to go for a walk, etc. [[spoiler: She's not Control, but she is hiding that she's a telepath.]]
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Note the fake reaction from Garibaldi when Lyta probes him. His reaction after being "released" by Bester in season four is quite similar.
