History Quotes / UnpleasableFanbase

->''It doesn't matter what you do''\\
''It doesn't matter what you say''\\
''There will always be one who wants things the opposite way'\\
''It doesn't matter where you go''\\
''It doesn't matter who you see''\\
''There will always be someone who disagrees''

''There will always be one who wants things the opposite way''

->It's like the Republican base is at war with its own talking points. I want someone who's gonna cut taxes, and balance the budget! Someone who's a skilled orator, but doesn't talk all fancy. A child of poor immigrants, who will build a fence to keep them out of this country. Someone who's strong enough for a man, but pH-balanced for a woman. Someone who will roll up their sleeves, but not show their arms. I feel like if [[UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan this guy]] came along today, the Republican response would be, 'I don't really go for those Hollywood types.'

->[...]

->You guys need to take a long hard look in the mirror. You need to take a long hard look in the mirror, and not come away thinking, 'You know, there's something wrong with this mirror.'"

->''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' was a megahit. It changed video games, revitalized the arcade scene, and pleased just about everybody -- excluding, I suppose, fanatical ''KarateChamp'' loyalists. Naturally, fans craved more. {{Capcom}} took an "[[StrictlyFormula if it ain't broke, don't fix it]]" approach to following it up, releasing ''Street Fighter II: Champion Edition'' and then ''Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting''... But by the time Capcom unveiled ''Super Street Fighter II Turbo'', many fans were turned off. "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks Just more of the same]]," they grumbled, and went to place their quarters on the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' and ''VideoGame/SamuraiShodown'' cabinets. Capcom took heed and released ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha''. It was a fine game, and a good starting point for a new 2D fighting series, but I don't recall it turning many heads. "Sure, [[SoOkayItsAverage the new graphic style is nice]]," we said. "But there aren't enough characters, and most of them are just the same people, anyway. It's still too much of the same old, same old. When is ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII'' coming out already?" A couple years later, Capcom released ''III'', and nobody even cared. "[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks It's too different]]," we whined this time. "Who are all these new people? What happened to the old ones? What's with only being able to pick one Super Art? And besides, 2D games are practically antiques at this point. 3D games - now ''those'' are the wave of the future!" Recently, when Capcom announced ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV'' would contain most or all of the old cast from ''Street Fighter II'' and would be 3D, gamers were already tearing their hair out and wailing that [[PolygonCeiling it was definitely going to suck]]. I would hate to have an audience like us.

->''"It doesn't matter what you do''\\

''There will always be one who wants things the opposite way"''
-->-- '''TheShaggs''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPsXPCR5MU "Philosophy of the World"]]

->She says, “I know you! You’re an artist, draw a picture of me!”
->I say, “I would if I could, but I don’t do sketches from memory.”
->“Well,” she says, “I’m right here in front of you, or haven’t you looked?”
->I say, “All right, I know, but I don’t have my drawing book.”
->She gives me a napkin, she says, “You can do it on that.”
->I say, “Yes I could, but I don’t know where my pencil is at.”
->She pulls one out from behind her ear
->She says, “All right now, go ahead, draw me, I’m standing right here!”
->I make a few lines and I show it for her to see
->She takes the napkin and throws it back and says, “That don’t look a thing like me!”
-->-- BobDylan, "Highlands"

->''But what would you say''
->''if I walked away?''
->''Would you appreciate?''
->''But then it'd be too late.''
->'''Cause I can only take so much''
->''of your ungrateful ways.''
->''Everything is never enough.''
-->-- '''Music/DreamTheater''', "Never Enough" (a song which resumes this trope)

->''But it's all right now''
->''I learned my lesson well''
->''See, you can't please everyone''
->''So you gotta please yourself''
-->-- '''Ricky Nelson''', "Garden Party"

->''Grouches of the world unite!''
->''Stand up for your grouchly rights!''
->''Don't let the sunshine spoil your rain''
->''Just stand up and complain!''

->''Let this be the grouches' cause''
->''Point out everybody's flaws!''
->''Something is wrong with everything''
->''Except the way I sing!''
-->-- '''Oscar the Grouch''', ''[[SesameStreet Follow That Bird]]'', [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8IHMctrKCg "Grouch Anthem"]]

->''"For fans, they sure do [[DearNegativeReader complain a lot]]."''
-->-- '''Dean Winchester''', ''{{Series/Supernatural}}''

->''"Just think whereas now we have young adults complaining that Elmo has taken screen time away from classic characters like Big Bird and Grover, in just a few years we're likely to have young adults ranting about how Abby has taken screen time away from classic characters like Elmo and Baby Bear! Since Elmo hit the big time, grown-ups have been like, "It's a huge mistake to give Elmo the spotlight over the classic characters! The show was so much better before he showed up!" But now the viewers who were in the audience for the first ''Elmo's World'' segments are becoming grown-ups themselves, and they're all like, "It's a huge mistake to change the Elmo character! The show needs the classic Elmo!"''
-->-- '''Ryan Roe''', "[[http://www.toughpigs.com/the-elmo-generation-gets-cranky/ The Elmo Generation Gets Cranky]]", ToughPigs.com

->''"There is a diabolical twist to StarWars fandom, you see, that defies comprehension, and yet is the life-blood of all Star Wars fans. It is this: '''Star Wars fans hate Star Wars'''. If you run into somebody who tells you they thought the franchise was quite enjoyable, and they very-much liked the originals as well as the prequels, and even own everything on DVD, and a few of the books, these imposters'' are not Star Wars Fans."''

->'''Frasier''': "What is the one thing better than an exquisite meal? An exquisite meal with one tiny flaw we can pick at all night."
->'''Niles''': Quite right. *raises glass* "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_GF7CTBNSw To impossible standards!]]"
-->-- ''Series/{{Frasier}}''

->''"Ranting about the game can be more fun than the game itself."''
-->-- ''No Mutants Allowed'' forum member '''Pipboy-x11'''

-> ''"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"''
-->-- '''John Lydgate''', later paraphrased by Abraham Lincoln

->''"Of course I listen to my readers! So the next book will be: Set in Ankh-Morpork/not set in Ankh-Morpork. With lots of the good old characters/with a whole cast of new characters. Written like the old books, which were better/written like the later books, which were better. With lots of character development/none of that dull character development stuff, which gets in the way of the jokes. Short/long. You want fries with that?"''
-->-- '''Creator/TerryPratchett'''

->''"Second, y'know, I get asked a lot, 'Give us ALIEN aliens.' So I do. And then I get gigged because they don't act like we'd expect humans to act. Sometimes I just throw up my hands...."''
-->-- '''Creator/JMichaelStraczynski'''

->''"Just because you like my stuff doesn't mean I owe you anything."''
-->-- '''BobDylan'''

->''"Think of the most vicious, bitchy [[CampGay queen]] you've ever met. The worst of the fans are much, much worse."''
-->-- '''Creator/JohnNathanTurner''', ''Series/DoctorWho'' producer and {{showrunner}}

->''"You can't please all of the people all of the time, and last night all of those people [[ProducePelting were at my show.]]"''
-->--'''Creator/MitchHedberg'''

->''"People used to complain about how the list was too hard to navigate and that we should turn into a calendar. Now all I hear is that the calendar is too hard to navigate and we should go back to a list. The lesson here? Never listen to fans."''
-->-- '''[[http://www.formspring.me/bclev/q/635045732 Brian Clevinger]]''', on the ''[[Webcomic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'' archive design

->''"Fans are clingy complaining dipshits who will never ever be grateful for any concession you make. The moment you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices the happier you will be for it. [[HypocriticalHumor Incidentally, why not buy a]] [[TheMerch Zero Punctuation T-Shirt]]?"''

->''"[[VindicatedByHistory In hindsight,]] of course, everybody recognizes that Kinda is a classic piece of ''Doctor Who''. And yet in the ''Doctor Who Monthly'' poll on Season 19 [[MagnumOpusDissonance it ranked dead last]] -- as the absolute worst story of the season.... if you prefer either [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS19E7TimeFlight}} Time-Flight]] or [[{{Recap/DoctorWhoS19E2FourToDoomsday}} Four to Doomsday]] to Kinda, there's something seriously wrong with you. And unfortunately, apparently the ''Doctor Who Monthly'' readers, or at least those that answered the season poll, did.\\\
The usual cautions about the tastes of ''{{Doctor Who Magazine}}'' readers apply, but what we have to remember is that this was also an era where Creator/JohnNathanTurner was [[PanderingToTheBase overtly courting fandom]] through the magazine. And here, quite frankly, we see where this becomes really, really toxic. Because by most metrics, even in [[TheEighties 1982]], it would have been clear that there are really interesting and praiseworthy things going on here and that this is a model story for how to do ''Doctor Who''. Instead, though, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen the whims of fandom had sway.]]"''
-->--'''Phil Sandifer''' [[http://www.philipsandifer.com/2012/02/one-tiny-little-gap-in-universe-left.html on]] [[{{Recap/DoctorWhos19E3Kinda}} "Kinda"]]

->''"''[[Series/StarTrekEnterprise Enterprise]]'' took a lot of flak for showing many aliens that weren't in the other series, especially since ''Enterprise'' was exploring space closer to Earth than any of the other series. It also used some aliens that appeared in later series when they shouldn't have. The writers just couldn't win."''
-->--''[[http://h2g2.com/edited_entry/A6756294 h2g2]]''

->''"''VideoGame/StreetFighterII'' was a megahit. It changed video games, revitalized the arcade scene, and pleased just about everybody -- excluding, I suppose, fanatical ''KarateChamp'' loyalists. Naturally, fans craved more. {{Capcom}} took an "[[StrictlyFormula if it ain't broke, don't fix it]]" approach to following it up, releasing ''Street Fighter II: Champion Edition'' and then ''Street Fighter II: Hyper Fighting''... But by the time Capcom unveiled ''Super Street Fighter II Turbo'', many fans were turned off. "[[ItsTheSameNowItSucks Just more of the same]]," they grumbled, and went to place their quarters on the ''VideoGame/MortalKombat'' and ''VideoGame/SamuraiShodown'' cabinets. Capcom took heed and released ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha''. It was a fine game, and a good starting point for a new 2D fighting series, but I don't recall it turning many heads. "Sure, [[SoOkayItsAverage the new graphic style is nice]]," we said. "But there aren't enough characters, and most of them are just the same people, anyway. It's still too much of the same old, same old. When is ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIII'' coming out already?" A couple years later, Capcom released ''III'', and nobody even cared. "[[TheyChangedItNowItSucks It's too different]]," we whined this time. "Who are all these new people? What happened to the old ones? What's with only being able to pick one Super Art? And besides, 2D games are practically antiques at this point. 3D games - now ''those'' are the wave of the future!" Recently, when Capcom announced ''VideoGame/StreetFighterIV'' would contain most or all of the old cast from ''Street Fighter II'' and would be 3D, gamers were already tearing their hair out and wailing that [[PolygonCeiling it was definitely going to suck]]. I would hate to have an audience like us."''

->''"'Hardcore' Gamers are basically the Parents of gaming. They complained about not having tutorials because a lot of them didn't have the manual, they complained about how they had to wait for the magazines to find out the secret areas...and now that we have sites like GameFAQs that offer detailed walkthroughs free of charge and built-in-tutorials, they're whining at how it's all dumbed down and saying 'in my day, we...' because they didn't '''have''' those boons."''
-->-- A post from a topic detailing complaints at how fans (who complained about ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII'' having tutorials) saying that ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' needs tutorials.

->''"I thought Zelda was getting stale, so I made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]. You all hated [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]] and said it was for babies, So I followed OOT and made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]. Oooooo but noooo, now you love [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]] and hate Twilight Princess! WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE! That's why I made WiiSports. At least the kids and moms will always like it!"''
-->-- '''[[ImageBoards Anonymous]]''' impersonating '''ShigeruMiyamoto'''

->''"You've done nothing but complain endlessly about this game for years and years. Yet you've logged on every day since then. I still see you in-game playing. I still see you hosting games. I see you joining games. I see you coming up with strategies. This game sucks so much yet you still pay the monthly fee. I think this means despite all your complaints, they're doing'' '''something''' ''right."''
-->-- A ''TheReasonYouSuckSpeech'' that was given at a forum about video games.

->"If the story I want to tell isn't the story you want to read, there are no hard feelings on my part."
-->-- '''Krakro''', writer of ''Webcomic/{{Spinnerette}}!''

->''"Gotta love video gamers who complain about the stagnation of repetitive, copy & paste sequels; they are always the first to complain when something new is introduced to reinvigorate the series."''
-->-- A comment on the Video Game Awards 2011 trailer of VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance on Website/YouTube

->''Only one death threat, two demands for my immediate resignation, and two for my suicide. IT'S A HIT!!''
-->'''@steven_moffat''' on his [[http://twitter.com/#!/steven_moffat/status/77324229388943360 Twitter]], in the aftermath of ''Series/DoctorWho'': "[[Recap/DoctorWhoS32E7AGoodManGoesToWar A Good Man Goes to War]]"

-->WebVideo/TheAmazingAtheist in his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alvPppffh6Q BEST SONGS EVER]] video

-> ''"The only thing fans like bitching about more than the thing they're fans of is [[FandomRivalry the thing other people are fans of]]."''
--> -- Tropers/StarSword on the forums for ''VideoGame/StarTrekOnline''

-> ''"In the beginning, the universe was created... this made a lot of people very angry and has widely been regarded as a bad move."''
-->-- A ''[[TheHitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy]]'' entry on the creation of the universe.

->'''Niles''': Quite right. * raises glass* "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_GF7CTBNSw To impossible standards!]]"

->''It doesn't matter what you do''\\

->''It doesn't matter what you do''
->''It doesn't matter what you say''
->''There will always be one who wants things the opposite way''
->''It doesn't matter where you go''
->''It doesn't matter who you see''
->''There will always be someone who disagrees''

-> ''"Of course I listen to my readers! So the next book will be: Set in Ankh-Morpork/not set in Ankh-Morpork. With lots of the good old characters/with a whole cast of new characters. Written like the old books, which were better/written like the later books, which were better. With lots of character development/none of that dull character development stuff, which gets in the way of the jokes. Short/long. You want fries with that?"''
-->-- '''Creator/TerryPratchett'''

->''But what would you say''
->''if I walked away?''
->''Would you appreciate?''
->''But then it'd be too late.''
->'''Cause I can only take so much''
->''of your ungrateful ways.''
->''Everything is never enough.''
-->-- '''Music/DreamTheater''', "Never Enough" (a song which resumes this trope)

->''"People used to complain about how the list was too hard to navigate and that we should turn into a calendar. Now all I hear is that the calendar is too hard to navigate and we should go back to a list. The lesson here? Never listen to fans."''
-->-- '''[[http://www.formspring.me/bclev/q/635045732 Brian Clevinger]]''', on the ''[[Webcomic/EightBitTheater 8-Bit Theater]]'' archive design

-> ''"You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can't please all of the people all of the time"''
-->-- '''John Lydgate''', later paraphrased by Abraham Lincoln

->''"For fans, they sure do complain a lot."''
-->-- [[Series/{{Supernatural}} Dean Winchester]]

->''It doesn't matter what you do''
->''It doesn't matter what you say''
->''There will always be one who wants things the opposite way''
->''It doesn't matter where you go''
->''It doesn't matter who you see''
->''There will always be someone who disagrees''
-->-- '''TheShaggs''' [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPsXPCR5MU "Philosophy of the World"]]

->''"You can't please all of the people all of the time, and last night all of those people were at my show."''
-->--'''Creator/MitchHedberg'''

->She says, “I know you! You’re an artist, draw a picture of me!”
->I say, “I would if I could, but I don’t do sketches from memory.”
->“Well,” she says, “I’m right here in front of you, or haven’t you looked?”
->I say, “All right, I know, but I don’t have my drawing book.”
->She gives me a napkin, she says, “You can do it on that.”
->I say, “Yes I could, but I don’t know where my pencil is at.”
->She pulls one out from behind her ear
->She says, “All right now, go ahead, draw me, I’m standing right here!”
->I make a few lines and I show it for her to see
->She takes the napkin and throws it back and says, “That don’t look a thing like me!”
-->-- BobDylan, "Highlands"

->''"I thought Zelda was getting stale, so I made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]. You all hated [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]] and said it was for babies, So I followed OOT and made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]. Oooooo but noooo, now you love [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]! WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE! That's why I made WiiSports. At least the kids and moms will always like it!"''

->''"I thought Zelda was getting stale, so I made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]. You all hated [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]] and said it was for babies, So I followed OOT and made [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess Twilight Princess]]. Oooooo but noooo, now you love [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker Wind Waker]]! WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE! So at this E3 I [[TakeAThirdOption made a morph with Twilight Princess and Wind Waker]] and called it ''SkywardSword''. And you don't like Skyward Sword either. You love Wind Waker and Twilight Princess now. [[PrecisionFStrike WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU WANT!!!!?]] That's why I made WiiSports. At least the kids and moms will always like it!"''

-->TheAmazingAtheist in his [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alvPppffh6Q BEST SONGS EVER]] video

-->-- '''MitchHedberg'''

->'''Niles''': * raises glass* "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_GF7CTBNSw To impossible standards!]]"
-->-- ''{{Frasier}}''

-->-- '''Oscar the Grouch''', ''[[SesameStreet Follow That Bird]]'', "Grouch Anthem"

-->'''@steven_moffat''' on his [[http://twitter.com/#!/steven_moffat/status/77324229388943360 Twitter]], in the aftermath of ''Series/DoctorWho'': "A Good Man Goes to War"

-->-- '''Andrey Summers,''' ''[[http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:DJzXzdDlgncJ:www.jivemagazine.com/column.php%3Fpid%3D3381+Star+Wars+fans+hate+star+wars&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us JIVEMagazine]]''

-->-- '''[[ZeroPunctuation Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw]]'''

-->-- A comment on the Video Game Awards 2011 trailer of [[VideoGame/MetalGearRisingRevengeance Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance]] on YouTube

->''"You've done nothing but complain endlessly about this game for years and years. Yet you've logged on every day since then. I still see you in-game playing. I still see you hosting games. I see you joining games. I see you coming up with strategies. This game sucks so much yet you still pay the monthly fee. I think this means despite all your complaints, they're doing'' '''something''' ''right.''

-->-- '''Krakro''', writer of ''{{Spinnerette}}!''

-->-- A comment on the Video Game Awards 2011 trailer of [[MetalGearSolidRising Metal Gear Rising: Revengence]] on YouTube

-->-- '''TerryPratchett'''

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-->-- '''JMichaelStraczynski'''

I say, “I would if I could, but I don’t do sketches from memory.”
“Well,” she says, “I’m right here in front of you, or haven’t you looked?”
I say, “All right, I know, but I don’t have my drawing book.”
She gives me a napkin, she says, “You can do it on that.”
I say, “Yes I could, but I don’t know where my pencil is at.”
She pulls one out from behind her ear
She says, “All right now, go ahead, draw me, I’m standing right here!”
I make a few lines and I show it for her to see
She takes the napkin and throws it back and says, “That don’t look a thing like me!”