History Quotes / ProtectionFromEditors

-> "Speaking as a freelancer, some of us have really boneheaded ideas that need to be challenged and changed. One writer, for instance, wanted there to be 3,000 Solars, 3,000 Lunars, 1,000 Sidereals and over a million [Dragon-Blooded], all destroyed in the Three Spheres Cataclysm at the end of the Primordial War. The remaining Celestials in Creation wandered around acting like, quote, "Billy Badass," oblivious to the fact that they'd be paste next to the Primordials.

-> "He needed to be reminded that the name of the game is ''{{Exalted}}'', not ''You're a Useless Bitch Next to the Yozis''."
--> -- '''Neall Raemonn Price'''

-> "It's my job to find potential in things that might not on the surface seem to have any, and it is their job to be skeptical and question all ideas to make sure they measure up."
--> -- '''[[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Mark Rosewater]]'''

-> "'''3) When I'm Famous, I Won't Have to Deal with Editors'''
-> This doesn't happen often. If you are lucky, it will never happen to you."

-> "Before the public sees any syndicated cartoons, they're first screened by an editor or two for potential [[DudeNotFunny problems]]. And editors, I'm convinced, have saved my career many times by their decisions ''not'' to publish certain cartoons."

-> "[''MetalGearSolid4''] is in dire need of an editor, preferably one armed with waders and pruning shears.
--> -- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation''''''s review of ''MetalGearSolid4''.

-> ''Totalitarian? TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [BBC1 controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''Series/DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.''

-> ''That's more than creative freedom, that's being turned loose in the wild. Frankly, I'm scared and want someone to tell me what to do. I might even have an epiphany.''

-> "It's an old story: a visionary director tired of constantly having to justify his mad-prophet vision to buttoned-down bean counters with calculators for hearts so he sets up shop on his own. It's gonna be different, this time, see? This time, the inmates will be RunningTheAsylum and making mad moolah in the process. Three months later, the now penniless, despondent visionary comes crawling back to his old studio, begging for any job, no matter how dispiriting or humiliating: assistant director on a Wallace Beery wrestling movie, production assistant on a Hercules flick. It doesn't matter. He'll do anything just to get back in the game. FrankCapra, Creator/PrestonSturges, Coppola: all fell into ruin when they tried to buck the system."

-> "It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. Coppola ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. Creator/StevenSpielberg runs Creator/DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment."

-> "I discovered that editing is really another word for someone ruthlessly tearing apart your work with a big smile, all the while telling you that it will make the book so much better. And it did, though it felt like splinters of hot bamboo being driven into my tender eyeballs."

-> "However, as most any writer will tell you, just because you spent ten days slaving over a certain scene is no reason to keep it in the final manuscript. The only question that matters is whether the scene contributes to the book as a whole. If not, then it must go."

-> "How this ever made it past the editors, I may never know!"

-->'''Trey Parker''': I think you get to a certain age maybe where you just believe that you are as great as everyone tells you, and you don't need to fix your story, you don't need an editor and you don't need to go through all the toil on a script that you went through originally because it's just obvious that those scripts for the first three are so awful. And that's the only problem with the new shows is that they're terrible scripts. And because he was GeorgeLucas he didn't have anyone say "This is a terrible script, you have to fix it before we'll shoot it", you just a studio going "Go, go, go, make it!".
-->'''Matt Stone''': Or maybe someone did, and he was like "Get out of here!" Who knows? You need people in your life as somebody who does comedy, and even StarWars. You need someone to say "No, that's not very good", someone who's gonna be honest with you. And probably George Lucas was in a big room of liars, with everyone sitting there, going "[[YesMan This is great, George!]]"
-->'''Trey Parker''': Cause there's no way that anyone with half a brain could have read that script and thought it was good. Any one of them, I mean, they're awful.

->'''Rikk'''(impersonating [[StarWars Anakin]]): "I don't ''like'' sand, heh-heh. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets heh-heh ''evvverywhere''. Here everything is ''soft and smooth'', [[Series/MontyPythonsFlyingCircus wink wink, nudge nudge, knowhuddimean, knowhuddimean?]]"
->'''Rumy''': It was excruciating!
->'''Ally''': But see, I'd think you'd be into it, cause y'know, star-crossed lovers.
->'''Rumy''': I love a good romance! But that was...
->'''Ally''': A stalker and her enabler?
->'''Rumy''': Yes, yes! Lucas makes me afraid. He's what happens [[ProtectionFromEditors when artists stop seeking criticism]]. Promise me you'll tell me when my own work is bad?
--> T. Campbell's ''{{Fans}}'', on "StarWars Episode II"

->''"No one edits. I edit. I refuse to be edited."''
-->--'''Harold Bloom'''

->If you want to know what happens to a kid who never gets told "No," look at SethMacFarlane's career. The resurrection of ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' was the worst thing to happen to his ego, because it was basically a way for him to tell himself "Hey, I was right. All of the higher-ups who said the show was too weird, or that not enough people watched it, or that I was more obsessed with making obscure references than I was with telling stories and, occasionally, jokes -- that was ALL HORSESHIT. I never should have doubted myself. ''And I never will again''."
-->--'''Website/{{Cracked}}''', ''[[http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-artists-who-should-probably-just-take-break-while_p2/ 4 Artists Who Should Probably Just Take a Break for a While]]''

-->'''Matt Stone''': Or maybe someone did, and he was like "Get out of here!" Who knows? You need people in your life as somebody who does comedy, and even StarWars. You need someone to say "No, that's not very good", someone who's gonna be honest with you. And probably George Lucas was in a big room of liars, with everyone sitting there, going "This is great, George!"

--> -- '''NathanRabin''', [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-year-of-flops-case-file-95-one-from-the-heart,10133/ My Year Of Flops #95: One From The Heart]]

--> -- '''Creator/ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''[[TheInheritanceCycle Brisingr]]''

-> "It's an old story: a visionary director tired of constantly having to justify his mad-prophet vision to buttoned-down bean counters with calculators for hearts so he sets up shop on his own. It's gonna be different, this time, see? This time, the inmates will be RunningTheAsylum and making mad moolah in the process. Three months later, the now penniless, despondent visionary comes crawling back to his old studio, begging for any job, no matter how dispiriting or humiliating: assistant director on a Wallace Beery wrestling movie, production assistant on a Hercules flick. It doesn't matter. He'll do anything just to get back in the game. FrankCapra, PrestonSturges, Coppola: all fell into ruin when they tried to buck the system."

--> -- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'''''[='=]s review of ''MetalGearSolid4''.

-> "It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. Coppola ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. Creator/StevenSpielberg runs DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment."

->If you want to know what happens to a kid who never gets told "No," look at [[SethMacFarlane Seth MacFarlane]]'s career. The resurrection of ''FamilyGuy'' was the worst thing to happen to his ego, because it was basically a way for him to tell himself "Hey, I was right. All of the higher-ups who said the show was too weird, or that not enough people watched it, or that I was more obsessed with making obscure references than I was with telling stories and, occasionally, jokes -- that was ALL HORSESHIT. I never should have doubted myself. ''And I never will again''."

->'''Rikk'''(impersonating [[StarWars Anakin]]): "I don't ''like'' sand, heh-heh. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets heh-heh ''evvverywhere''. Here everything is ''soft and smooth'', [[MontyPythonsFlyingCircus wink wink, nudge nudge, knowhuddimean, knowhuddimean?]]"

--> -- '''''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'''''[='=]s review of ''{{Metal Gear Solid 4}}''.

-> "It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. Coppola ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. StevenSpielberg runs DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment."

--> -- '''[[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', on the ''All-Star Batman & Robin'' comic series.

->''"I have a very good track record when it comes to [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Magic]] design. I have designed numerous very popular sets. I have designed a lot of successful cards and mechanics. I have probably been responsible for more innovations in Magic design than any other designer in history. You know one of the worst things R&D could probably do—just let me do whatever I want."''

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--> -- '''''WebOriginal/ZeroPunctuation'''''[='=]s review of ''{{Metal Gear Solid 4}}''.

->''"I have a very good track record when it comes to [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Magic]] design. I have designed numerous very popular sets. I have designed a lot of successful cards and mechanics. I have probably been responsible for more innovations in Magic design than any other designer in history. You know one of the worst things R&D could probably do—just let me do whatever I want."''

--> -- '''ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''[[TheInheritanceCycle Brisingr]]''

--> -- '''ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''[[Literature/InheritanceCycle Eragon]]''

-> "What can I say? I'm not a bad writer, I'm just a piss-poor editor."
--> -- '''WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic''', on spelling mistakes in his videos.

->''"I have a very good track record when it comes to [[TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering Magic]] design. I have designed numerous very popular sets. I have designed a lot of successful cards and mechanics. I have probably been responsible for more innovations in Magic design than any other designer in history. You know one of the worst things R&D could probably do—just let me do whatever I want."''

--> -- '''[[MagicTheGathering Mark Rosewater]]'''

--> -- '''''ZeroPunctuation'''''[='=]s review of ''{{Metal Gear Solid 4}}''.

--> -- '''The Nostalgia Critic''', on spelling mistakes in his videos.

--> -- '''[[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]]''', on the ''All-Star Batman & Robin'' comic series.

->''"I have a very good track record when it comes to [[MagicTheGathering Magic]] design. I have designed numerous very popular sets. I have designed a lot of successful cards and mechanics. I have probably been responsible for more innovations in Magic design than any other designer in history. You know one of the worst things R&D could probably do—just let me do whatever I want."''

--> -- '''ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''{{Eragon}}''

->'''Rikk'''(impersonating [[StarWars Anakin]]): "I don't ''like'' sand, heh-heh. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets heh-heh ''evvverywhere''. Here everything is ''soft and smooth'', [[MontyPython wink wink, nudge nudge, knowhuddimean, knowhuddimean?]]"

-> ''Totalitarian? TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [BBC1 controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.''

-> ''Totalitarian? TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [BBC1 controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.

-> That's more than creative freedom, that's being turned loose in the wild. Frankly, I'm scared and want someone to tell me what to do. I might even have an epiphany.''

-> "Before the public sees any syndicated cartoons, they're first screened by an editor or two for potential problems. And editors, I'm convinced, have saved my career many times by their decisions ''not'' to publish certain cartoons."

-> "[''MetalGearSolid4''] is in dire need of an editor, preferbly one armed with waders and pruning shears.

->"Speaking as a freelancer, some of us have really boneheaded ideas that need to be challenged and changed. One writer, for instance, wanted there to be 3,000 Solars, 3,000 Lunars, 1,000 Sidereals and over a million [Dragon-Blooded], all destroyed in the Three Spheres Cataclysm at the end of the Primordial War. The remaining Celestials in Creation wandered around acting like, quote, "Billy Badass," oblivious to the fact that they'd be paste next to the Primordials.

->"He needed to be reminded that the name of the game is ''{{Exalted}}'', not ''You're a Useless Bitch Next to the Yozis''."
--> --'''Neall Raemonn Price'''

->"It's my job to find potential in things that might not on the surface seem to have any, and it is their job to be skeptical and question all ideas to make sure they measure up."
--> --'''[[MagicTheGathering Mark Rosewater]]'''

->"'''3) When I'm Famous, I Won't Have to Deal with Editors'''
->This doesn't happen often. If you are lucky, it will never happen to you."
-->--'''[[http://crossedgenres.com/archives/001/common-misconceptions-about-editors-by-david-kudler/ "Common Misconceptions About Editors" by David Kudler]]'''

->"Before the public sees any syndicated cartoons, they're first screened by an editor or two for potential problems. And editors, I'm convinced, have saved my career many times by their decisions ''not'' to publish certain cartoons."\\
-- [[TheFarSide Gary Larson]]

->"[''MetalGearSolid4''] is in dire need of an editor, preferbly one armed with waders and pruning shears.
-->-- '''''ZeroPunctuation'''''[='=]s review of ''{{Metal Gear Solid 4}}''.

->''Totalitarian? TheBBC? Seriously? The other day I had to BEG a meeting with [BBC1 controller] Jay Hunt, just so I could explain what we're spending all her money on in ''DoctorWho''. She said it all sounded very nice and sent me off to play.\\
\\
That's more than creative freedom, that's being turned loose in the wild. Frankly, I'm scared and want someone to tell me what to do. I might even have an epiphany.''\\
-- '''StevenMoffat''' [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/16/tv-writers-support-bbc-drama tells it]].

->"It's an old story: a visionary director tired of constantly having to justify his mad-prophet vision to buttoned-down bean counters with calculators for hearts so he sets up shop on his own. It's gonna be different, this time, see? This time, the inmates will be RunningTheAsylum and making mad moolah in the process. Three months later, the now penniless, despondent visionary comes crawling back to his old studio, begging for any job, no matter how dispiriting or humiliating: assistant director on a Wallace Beery wrestling movie, production assistant on a Hercules flick. It doesn't matter. He'll do anything just to get back in the game. FrankCapra, PrestonSturges, Coppola: all fell into ruin when they tried to buck the system."

->"It's telling that when a filmmaker succeeds in running his own studio, it's because he's learned to let his inner businessman veto his inner artiste. Coppola ran Zoetrope with his heart. It nearly destroyed him. StevenSpielberg runs DreamWorks with his brain, a decision that leads to much healthier returns on investment."
-->--'''NathanRabin''', [[http://www.avclub.com/articles/my-year-of-flops-case-file-95-one-from-the-heart,10133/ My Year Of Flops #95: One From The Heart]]

->"I discovered that editing is really another word for someone ruthlessly tearing apart your work with a big smile, all the while telling you that it will make the book so much better. And it did, though it felt like splinters of hot bamboo being driven into my tender eyeballs."
--> --'''ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''{{Eragon}}''

->"However, as most any writer will tell you, just because you spent ten days slaving over a certain scene is no reason to keep it in the final manuscript. The only question that matters is whether the scene contributes to the book as a whole. If not, then it must go."
--> --'''ChristopherPaolini''', on the editing of ''[[TheInheritanceCycle Brisingr]]''

->"What can I say? I'm not a bad writer, I'm just a piss-poor editor."
--> --'''The Nostalgia Critic''', on spelling mistakes in his videos.

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