History Quotes / MyCountryRightOrWrong

->Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel
-->-- '''Samuel Johnson'''

->It's true that by 1970 students were active antiwar protestors. But that only happened after eight years of the U.S. war against [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar South Vietnam]], which by then had been [[MovingTheGoalposts extended to all of Indochina]] and had practically wiped the place out. In 1962, it was announced that U.S. planes were bombing South Vietnam--there was no protest...It was impossible to get anybody to talk about it. Even in a liberal city like Boston, you couldn't have a public meeting against the war because they would be broken up by students, with the support of the media. You would have to have hundreds of state police around [[TorchesAndPitchforks to allow speakers like me to survive unscathed.]]
-->--'''Noam Chomsky'''

-->--Thatcher hammers the coffin of Toryism nice and tight, Conservative Philosophy Group forum

->The coverage in the Persian Gulf War was typical. The international press willingly administered a restrictive pool system on behalf of the military under which [[YesMan carefully controlled groups of reporters]] were guided around the front line by officers. It could never have functioned without the cooperation of the press. The press was as eager to be of service to the state during the war as most everyone else.
-->--'''Chris Hedges''', ''War is a Force That Gives Us Meaning''

->This is not the voice of treason. These are ''your sons'', and ''your daughters'', whose loyalties have ''never'' wavered! Whose belief in [[TheAlliance this Alliance]] has ''[[GodzillaThreshold forced us]]'' to [[DeadlyEuphemism take extraordinary means]].
-->-- '''Captain Sheridan''', ''Series/BabylonFive'', explaining why he is leading [[LaResistance a rebellion against his government]].

->It's true that by 1970 students were active antiwar protestors. But that only happened after eight years of the U.S. war against [[UsefulNotes/VietnamWar South Vietnam]],which by then had been [[MovingTheGoalposts extended to all of Indochina]] and had practically wiped the place out. In 1962, it was announced that U.S. planes were bombing South Vietnam--there was no protest...It was impossible to get anybody to talk about it. Even in a liberal city like Boston, you couldn't have a public meeting against the war because they would be broken up by students, with the support of the media. You would have to have hundreds of state police around [[TorchesAndPitchforks to allow speakers like me to survive unscathed.]]

->The coverage in the Persian Gulf War was typical. The international press willingly administered a restrictive pool system on behalf of the military under which [[YesMan carefully controlled groups of reporters]] were hided around the front line by officers. It could never have functioned without the cooperation of the press. The press was as eager to be of service to the state during the war as most everyone else.

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'''American general''': Spoken like a true soldier.\\

->Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel
-->-- '''Samuel Johnson'''

-> '''Enoch Powell''': No, we do not fight for values. I would fight for this country even if it had a Communist government.\\
'''MargaretThatcher''': Nonsense, Enoch. If I send British troops abroad, it will be to defend our values.\\
'''Enoch Powell''': No, Prime Minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time. They can neither be fought for, nor destroyed.
-->--Thatcher hammers the coffin of Toyrism nice and tight, Conservative Philosophy Group forum

-> "Because today I am on state business, and I have no inclination to let private friendship override my public duty."

->'''Cass''': [[TheFederation NCR]]'s my country, and I support it. Anyone says otherwise... I'll feed 'em my knee. I know which side of the firing line I'm on in the Mojave, just so you know.
->'''The Courier''': There's a "but" in there.
->'''Cass''': Yeah, there is. I'm not some blind, flag-saluting, do-as-they-will NCR lover. They're like family, but let me tell ya what family means. You ever had a brother? Some dumbass younger brother, say, who knocked up the pastor's daughter, can't hold down a job and his home-away is a jail cell? ''That'' is NCR. Their compass is spinning. All the time.
-->-- ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas''

->"''Our country! In her [[HaveAGayOldTime intercourse]] with foreign nations, may she always be in the right; but still our country, right or wrong.''"

->"''[[TropeNamer My country, right or wrong]]; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.''"

->''"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."''

->''"Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits, but [[MoralMyopia according to who does them]], and there is almost no kind of outrage... Loyalty is involved, and so pity ceases to function."''

->"But you know as well as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean either my country, right or wrong, which is infamous, or my country is always right, which is imbecile."

->''"The coverage in the Persian Gulf War was typical. The international press willingly administered a restrictive pool system on behalf of the military under which [[YesMan carefully controlled groups of reporters]] were hided around the front line by officers. It could never have functioned without the cooperation of the press. The press was as eager to be of service to the state during the war as most everyone else."''

->"Were my heart my master, I would do exactly as you say. But what sort of knight abandons his kingdom-his king!-now, when they need him the most?."

->'''Soldier''': "Lord Captain! We are the Red Wings, the pride of Baron! Must we now be thieves, sent to plunder from the weak?"\\
'''Cecil''': "Enough."\\
'''Soldier''': "But, Lord Captain! The Mysidians offered no resistance! And still we cut them down!"\\
'''Cecil''': "Listen to me. We did no more than what our kingdom's peace and prosperity required us to do. The Mysidians knew too much of the Crystal and its secrets. His Majesty deemed it so. We are the Red Wings of Baron! It is not our place to question the orders of our king."

->'''American general''': "You mean your convictions or your country's convictions?"\\
'''General Kuribayashi''': "Are they not the same?"\\
'''American general''': "Spoken like a true soldier."\\

-->-- Samuel Johnson

-> "The world will '''never''' know how I struggled with the decision to '''stay out''' of the electorial process. Should I have gone on television and told the voters '''not''' to elect this man? And what then? If I use my '''influence''' -- my '''character''' and my '''reputation''' -- to tell people how to vote, what does that make me? I choose to fight for Truth, Justice and the American Way. And for all it's flaws, American democracy ''does'' work... The United States doesn't need me to dictate, or worse, '''deprive''' her people of that most precious gift. The freedom of ''choice''. Even when I knew in my heart that choice was '''wrong'''."
-->-- Franchise/{{Superman}}, Comicbook/SupermanBatman: Public Enemies

-> '''Enoch Powell''': No, we do not fight for values. I would fight for this country even if it had a Communist government.
-> '''MargaretThatcher''': Nonsense, Enoch. If I send British troops abroad, it will be to defend our values.
-> '''Enoch Powell''': No, Prime Minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time. They can neither be fought for, nor destroyed.

-->-- '''Aleksandr Leonovitch Granin''', ''Videogame/MetalGearSolid3SnakeEater''

->"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."

-->-- '''LettersFromIwoJima'''

-->-- {{Superman}}, Comicbook/SupermanBatman: Public Enemies

-->-- {{Superman}}, Comicbook/{{Superman}} / {{Batman}}: Public Enemies

->"''But you know as I, patriotism is a word; and one that generally comes to mean ‘whither my country right or wrong,’ which is infamous, or ‘my country is always right,’ which is imbecile.''"
-->-- [[AubreyMaturin '''Stephen Maturin''']]

--> -- '''GKChesterton'''

-->-- {{Superman}}, Comicbook/{{Superman}}/{{Batman}}: Public Enemies

-> '''Enoch Powell''': No, Prime Minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time. They can neither be fought for, nor destroyed.

--> -- ''FinalFantasyIV DS''

-> '''Enoch Powell''': No, we do not fight for values. I would fight for this country even if it had a communist government.

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--> '''Enoch Powell''': No, we do not fight for values. I would fight for this country even if it had a communist government.
--> '''MargaretThatcher''': Nonsense, Enoch. If I send British troops abroad, it will be to defend our values.
--> '''Enoch Powell''': No, Prime Minister, values exist in a transcendental realm, beyond space and time. They can neither be fought for, nor destroyed.

--> -- '''LettersFromIwoJima'''

-->--'''LettersFromIwoJima'''

->-''Letters from Iwo Jima''

->American general: "You mean your convictions or your country's convictions?"
->General Kuribayashi: "Are they not the same?"
->American general: "Spoken like a true soldier."