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** ''Fanfic/FrigidWindsAndBurningHearts'' was released back in 2011 and the central idea of Princess Celestia [[WrittenByTheWinners rewriting]] history to make herself and Equestria look better than it actually is along along was a new concept. Now, it's just one of many [[RonTheDeathEater "Tyrant Celestia"]] stories available on Website/FimFiction.

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** ''Fanfic/FrigidWindsAndBurningHearts'' was released back in 2011 and the central idea of Princess Celestia [[WrittenByTheWinners rewriting]] history to make herself and Equestria look better than it actually is along along with the idea of the two princesses having strained relationships with each other was a new concept. Now, it's just one of many [[RonTheDeathEater "Tyrant Celestia"]] stories available on Website/FimFiction.
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** ''Fanfic/FrigidWindsAndBurningHearts'' was released back in 2011 and the central idea of Princess Celestia [[WrittenByTheWinners rewriting]] history to make herself and Equestria look better than it actually is along along was a new concept. Now, it's just one of many [[RonTheDeathEater "Tyrant Celestia"]] stories available on Website/FimFiction.
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* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of the ''FTLFasterThanLight'' fic ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliché and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.

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* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of the ''FTLFasterThanLight'' ''VideoGame/FTLFasterThanLight'' fic ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliché and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.
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* Ever since its early years, ''VideoGame/{{Doom}}'' gained a wide [[GameMod modding community]] which is thriving to this very day. However, older mods which were acclaimed back in the day may seem downright primitive by today's standards, in part due to evolving mapper skill and programming software in general. Switch-hunting in particular, which was present in many older [=WADs=], used to be innovative back in its heyday, but has since been considered more harmful than beneficial for level designing, especially if there's [[GuideDangIt a notable lack of direction towards where or how to solve such puzzles]].
** The introduction of increasingly user-friendly level editors further made it a lot easier to add fine detailing to the otherwise barren rooms, while source ports added support for even more modern features, including custom weapons/monsters and level design quirks, such as bridges you can walk on and under and sloped surfaces, among others; to say nothing of ACS-scripting carried over straight from ''VideoGame/{{Hexen}}''.
** Speaking of user-made materials, as custom maps and map packs get more recent and advanced, it has become rarer to find ones that don't make use of at least a couple custom textures or soundtracks, to the point that nowadays a mod using nothing but the default textures or music is likely to be considered vanilla-oriented, with ways to play around with classic textures and/or emulating the standard Doom gameplay style usually being its primary gimmick.
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* ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''
** ''Fanfic/Team8'' was one of the first ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' {{Dark Fic}}s of its kind, right when the English fandom was at its largest, and grew into possibly the most popular ''Naruto'' fanfic around. Some of the {{Fanon}} used in the fic is dated, and many ideas that the fic helped popularize (Naruto being on a team with Hinata, the Hyuuga being [[RonTheDeathEater awful]] [[AdaptationalVillainy in general]], Naruto getting a less "gawdy" outfit, etc.) have become very commonplace.
** A few years after the debut of ''Fanfic/DreamingOfSunshine'', newcomers to this story came to criticise it for several overdone story elements of the Naruto Self-Insert fic: reincarnation-into-twin-of-canon-character, replacing Sakura on Team 7, not acting to more drastically change the timeline, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking first-person POV]], etc. Fact is, ''Dreaming Of Sunshine'' itself was the pioneer for these story elements, with most other stories playing FollowTheLeader; while not the first story to use at least some of the elements, it was the first story to actually put them all together, and other stories with greater differences from canon are simply further evolution of the formula (leaving DOS newcomers to be spoiled for more original plotlines in the genre).

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** ''Fanfic/Team8'' was one of the first ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' ''Naruto'' {{Dark Fic}}s of its kind, right when the English fandom was at its largest, and grew into possibly the most popular ''Naruto'' fanfic around. Some of the {{Fanon}} used in the fic is dated, and many ideas that the fic helped popularize (Naruto ([[TeamMemberInTheAdaptation Naruto being on a team with Hinata, Hinata]], the Hyuuga being [[RonTheDeathEater awful]] [[AdaptationalVillainy in general]], Naruto getting a less "gawdy" outfit, etc.) have become very commonplace.
** A few years after the debut of ''Fanfic/DreamingOfSunshine'', newcomers to this story came to criticise it for several overdone story elements of the Naruto Self-Insert fic: reincarnation-into-twin-of-canon-character, replacing Sakura on Team 7, not acting to more drastically change the timeline, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking first-person POV]], etc. Fact is, ''Dreaming Of of Sunshine'' itself was the pioneer for these story elements, with most other stories playing FollowTheLeader; while not the first story to use at least some of the elements, it was the first story to actually put them all together, and other stories with greater differences from canon are simply further evolution of the formula (leaving DOS newcomers to be spoiled for more original plotlines in the genre).
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* The early ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' fanfic, ''[[Fanfic/TotalDramaComebackSeries Total Drama Comeback]]'' popularized [[OCStandIn extensive reinterpretation of Ezekiel]] and [[CrackPairing pairings with no relation to canon]], such as Katie/Noah. These elements have since become standard fare in ''Total Drama'' fanseasons featuring contestants from the canon rosters.

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* The early ''WesternAnimation/TotalDrama'' fanfic, ''[[Fanfic/TotalDramaComebackSeries Total Drama Comeback]]'' popularized [[OCStandIn extensive reinterpretation of Ezekiel]] and [[CrackPairing pairings with no relation to canon]], such as Katie/Noah. These elements have since become standard fare in ''Total Drama'' fanseasons fanfics featuring contestants from the canon rosters.
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** A few years after the debut of ''Fanfic/DreamingOfSunshine'', newcomers to this story have come to criticise it for certain story elements of the Naruto Self-Insert: reincarnation-into-twin-of-canon-character, replacing Sakura on Team 7, not acting to more drastically change the timeline, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking first-person POV]], etc... Fact is, ''Dreaming Of Sunshine'' itself was the pioneer for these story elements, most other stories playing FollowTheLeader; while not the first story to use at least some of the elements, it was the first story to actually put them all together, and other stories with greater differences from canon are simply further evolution of the formula (leaving DOS newcomers to be spoiled for more original plotlines in the genre).
* When written in 2001 ''Fanfic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but based on a cute show like ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/CupcakesSergeantSprinkles''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.

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** A few years after the debut of ''Fanfic/DreamingOfSunshine'', newcomers to this story have come came to criticise it for certain several overdone story elements of the Naruto Self-Insert: Self-Insert fic: reincarnation-into-twin-of-canon-character, replacing Sakura on Team 7, not acting to more drastically change the timeline, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking first-person POV]], etc... etc. Fact is, ''Dreaming Of Sunshine'' itself was the pioneer for these story elements, with most other stories playing FollowTheLeader; while not the first story to use at least some of the elements, it was the first story to actually put them all together, and other stories with greater differences from canon are simply further evolution of the formula (leaving DOS newcomers to be spoiled for more original plotlines in the genre).
* When written in 2001 ''Fanfic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but despite being based on a cute show like ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, other far more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/CupcakesSergeantSprinkles''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.



* ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'' was one of the first major ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fics to run with the reemergence of Jade's SuperPoweredEvilSide, the Queen of the Shadowkhan, as its main premise. It proved incredibly popular and quickly spawned numerous other fics with the same concept, to the point that some reviewers of later chapters dismissed it as just being another one, unaware of it having come first.

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* ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'' was one of the first major ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fics to run with the reemergence of Jade's SuperPoweredEvilSide, the Queen of the Shadowkhan, as its main premise. It proved incredibly popular and quickly spawned numerous other fics with the same concept, to the point that some reviewers of later chapters dismissed it as just being another one, unaware of ClicheStorm without realizing that it having come came first.
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* TheAbridgedSeries phenomenon. When Creator/LittleKuriboh debuted ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', the format of re-editing a series into mini-episodes and the style of quirky, self-referential {{parody}} was fairly original and amusing, and while {{Gag Dub}}s were certainly nothing new, ''YGOTAS'' massively popularized them. Nowadays, there are so many imitators that neither the format nor the humor seem innovative anymore, though this mainly goes for the older episodes, as [=LittleKuriboh=] has improved his craft since then.

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* TheAbridgedSeries phenomenon. When Creator/LittleKuriboh debuted ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'', the format of re-editing a series into mini-episodes and the style of quirky, self-referential {{parody}} was fairly original and amusing, and while {{Gag Dub}}s were certainly nothing new, ''YGOTAS'' massively popularized them. Nowadays, there are so many imitators that neither the format nor the humor seem innovative anymore, though this mainly goes for the older episodes, as [=LittleKuriboh=] has improved his craft since then.



* ''Fanfic/ATrekkiesTale''. Being the source of the term MarySue, people who seek the story out may be disappointed to find that it's extremely short quite a basic parody. It was written in the early '70s, when even the idea of modern fanfic itself was in its infancy. The fact that it was parodying the very things that make up MarySue characters, which were already becoming common in Star Trek fanfiction at the time, adds to this. Additionally, the concept of a MarySue has changed a ''lot'' since the seventies--accusations of CanonSue are far more common in traditional heroes and even of older works in TheNewTens than they were in the seventies and eighties.

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* ''Fanfic/ATrekkiesTale''. Being the source of the term MarySue, people who seek the story out may be disappointed to find that it's extremely short and quite a basic parody. It was written in the early '70s, when even the idea of modern fanfic itself was in its infancy.infancy—the concept of a fanfic parodying other fanfics was unimaginably novel. The fact that it was parodying the very things that make up MarySue characters, which were already becoming common in Star Trek fanfiction at the time, adds to this. Additionally, the concept of a MarySue has changed a ''lot'' since the seventies--accusations seventies—accusations of CanonSue are far more common in traditional heroes and even of older works in TheNewTens than they were in the seventies and eighties.



* The works created by [=Europa22=], a writer for ''Literature/TheHungerGames'', were once lauded for creating revolutionary submit-your-own character-stories with great depth and world-building. Now, the characters she submitted are beginning to show their age and seen as cliches such as a girl who volunteers to escape an arranged marriage, an assassin, a career who falls in love in the arena, a more homophobic background, a pregnant girl, a pickpocket, outer district careers, etc.
* In the ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'' fandom, there are stories in which [[IdiotHero Davis]] overhears his friends insulting him, driving him to leave them for some time and go on his own adventure. The first story of this kind was [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/81143/1/Walkabout "Walkabout"]] from the early 2000s, but it worked in those times because, as the author pointed out, most stories of the time either bashed Davis or only made him a hero by having him die a valiant death. As time went on, the fandom began treating Davis more normally.
* ''FanFic/TheLegendOfSpyroANewDawn'' is often credited as the first major adventure fic of the ''Franchise/SpyroTheDragon'' franchise, be it classic, legend, or otherwise. When it was posted, it was often considered one of the best fics in the archive, trying a lot of things that have never been done before in it. However, in this day and age where "[[FandomSpecificPlot post-DotD template]]" fics are so common to the point of being majorly panned by most people in the fandom, ''A New Dawn'' doesn't seem that groundbreaking.

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* The works created by [=Europa22=], a writer for ''Literature/TheHungerGames'', were once lauded for creating revolutionary submit-your-own character-stories with great depth and world-building. Now, the characters she submitted are beginning to show their age and seen as cliches such as a (a girl who volunteers to escape an arranged marriage, an assassin, a career woman who falls in love in the arena, a more homophobic background, a pregnant girl, a pickpocket, outer district careers, etc.
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* In the ''Anime/DigimonAdventure02'' fandom, there are stories in which [[IdiotHero Davis]] overhears his friends insulting him, driving him to leave them for some time and go on his own adventure. The first story of this kind was [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/81143/1/Walkabout "Walkabout"]] from the early 2000s, but it worked in those times specifically because, as the author pointed out, most stories of the time either bashed Davis or only made him a hero by having him die a valiant death. As time went on, the fandom began treating Davis more normally.
fairly, making the initial story seem unremarkable because the attitudes it was fighting no longer existed.
* ''FanFic/TheLegendOfSpyroANewDawn'' is often credited as the first major adventure fic of the ''Franchise/SpyroTheDragon'' franchise, be it classic, legend, or otherwise. When it was posted, it was often considered one of the best fics in the archive, trying a lot of things that have never been done before in it. the fandom. However, in this day and age where "[[FandomSpecificPlot post-DotD template]]" fics are so common to the point of being majorly panned by most people in members of the fandom, ''A New Dawn'' doesn't seem that even remotely groundbreaking.



** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[RecurringFanonCharacter mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfits compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.

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** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, popular that fans tended to [[RecurringFanonCharacter mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] show up (often female; wears a female who wore a military outfit or, if not, or at least more complex-looking outfits even compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can characters]], could flip out like Flippy; Flippy, and were often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, Flippy]]), and the term "Flippy-sue" is was coined as a protest against this practice. Her practice[[note]]her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.fanworks[[/note]].



** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see [now-retired] zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animations). It also helps that the show has a ''very'' loose continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable. But ClicheStorm after ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex ''HTF'' stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.

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** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see [now-retired] (the now-retired zolrac3005's works as are a more popular good example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to incorporated the elaborate stories with his near-show-perfect Flash animations). It also helps helped that the show has a ''very'' [[NegativeContinuity very loose continuity, continuity]], allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable.stories with their own OCs at the center. But ClicheStorm after ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on the hatred of complex ''HTF'' stories, stories has died down thanks to these types of stories being less prevalent, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
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* Even then, the GagDub and AffectionateParody of many popular series [[OlderThanTheyThink was already a VERY old trope by the time [=LittleKuriboh=] started recording his voice over everything]]. With the advent (and subsequent popularization) of TheAbridgedSeries, old UsefulNotes/AdobeFlash movies like "Dragon Ball Z in a Nutshell" and "A Mile a Minute Star Wars" (both considered quite popular and humorous, which use many of the tropes that TheAbridgedSeries now use) now seem like imitators... of ''poorly done'' abridged series.
* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As time has gone by, though, and the show continued to improve, the production seems basic in comparison (As pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or downright offensive. It's gotten to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season before they retired from abridging entirely.

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* Even then, the GagDub and AffectionateParody of many popular series [[OlderThanTheyThink was already a VERY old trope by the time [=LittleKuriboh=] started recording his voice over everything]]. With the advent (and subsequent popularization) of TheAbridgedSeries, old UsefulNotes/AdobeFlash movies like "Dragon Ball Z in a Nutshell" and "A Mile a Minute Star Wars" (both considered quite popular and humorous, which use many of the tropes that TheAbridgedSeries now use) now seem like imitators... of ''poorly done'' abridged series.
* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As But as time has gone by, though, went by and the show continued to improve, the production now seems basic in comparison (As (as pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or downright offensive. It's gotten It got to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season before they retired from abridging entirely.



* A vast majority of ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fanfics written after 1998 or so were built almost entirely upon {{Fanon}} established in earlier works by notable authors; the absolute ''worst'' case of this being the {{Flanderization}} of Akane into a brutally violent, abusive raging bitch with a hair trigger and no rationality whatsoever--which was given legitimacy in the very dark ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11108496/1/The-Bitter-End The Bitter End]]'', a story which painted a darker picture of the Ranmaverse and reconstructed this portrayal, with a FreudianExcuse, in the process. After TBE, "psychotic Akane" became one of the biggest cliches in Ranma fanfiction.

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* A vast majority of ''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' fanfics written after 1998 or so were built almost entirely upon {{Fanon}} established in earlier works by notable authors; the absolute ''worst'' case of this being the {{Flanderization}} of Akane into a brutally violent, abusive raging bitch {{Jerkass}} with a hair trigger and no rationality whatsoever--which was given legitimacy in whatsoever, which became popularized by the very dark ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11108496/1/The-Bitter-End The Bitter End]]'', a story which painted a darker picture of the Ranmaverse and reconstructed this portrayal, with a FreudianExcuse, harsh portrayal in the process. After TBE, "psychotic Akane" became one of the biggest cliches in Ranma fanfiction.



** ''FanFic/TheDracoTrilogy'' is a classic of this trope in action. A modern reader who is overly familiar with the concept (and often poor implementation) of DracoInLeatherPants stories, both within and outside of the ''Harry Potter'' fandom, may well find this story's concept relatively unoriginal.
** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its insanely charismatic main lead Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has numerous fanfics written early in the life of the fandom that were well-known and popular for being the first to utilize certain ideas, and now come across as rather non-notable in light of everything produced since then:

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** ''FanFic/TheDracoTrilogy'' is a classic example of this trope in action. A modern reader who is overly familiar with the concept (and often poor implementation) of DracoInLeatherPants stories, both within and outside of the ''Harry Potter'' fandom, may well find this story's concept relatively unoriginal.
** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. TrollFic. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' quickly gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], chapter]], its insanely charismatic extremely Mary Sue-ish main lead Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement [[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' defilement]] of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing and the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' staggering amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? 90s. At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic fanfic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s all of which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in used the day.
same tropes, parody topics, and instances of StylisticSuck to death.
* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has numerous fanfics written early in the life of the fandom that were well-known and popular for being the first to utilize certain ideas, and now come across as rather non-notable unnotable in light of everything produced since then:



** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale, actionized, DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom and ''easily'' one of the most famous ''Friendship is Magic'' fanfics out there. It has fan art, fan music, there are fan games being made for it including ''Fallout 3'' mods, and it has inspired dozens of spin-off fics. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories. According to an Equestria Daily mod, ''Fallout Equestria'' simply came out at the right time, when there weren't very many quality control restrictions on fics, to the point where if it never would have passed moderation if submitted later.
* ''Fanfic/ATrekkiesTale''. Being the source of the term MarySue, people who seek the story out may be disappointed to find that it's extremely short, and a quite basic parody. Then, you consider that it was written in the early '70s, when even the idea of modern fanfic itself was in its infancy. The fact that it was parodying the very things that make up MarySue characters, which were already becoming common in Star Trek fanfiction back then. adds to this. Additionally, the concept of a MarySue has changed a ''lot'' since the seventies - just as storytelling has. Accusations of CanonSue are ''far'' more common in traditional heroes and even of older works in TheNewTens than they were in the seventies and eighties.
* There are whole rafts of ''Franchise/BattlestarGalactica''[=/=]''Series/StargateSG1'' fics out there in which the Colonials are all portrayed as religious fanatic nutjobs who are offended... ''OFFENDED'', I tell you... that the people of Earth don't immediately throw away their false religions and their stupid ideas of freedom and democracy and join with their ancestral brothers in the worship of the Gods of Kobol and step in line with the military dictatorship that runs the 12 Colonies. It all stems back to one rather well-done story that has since been endlessly copied, in which the Colonials are religious, but they aren't quite that level of fanatic.

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** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale, actionized, DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom and ''easily'' easily one of the most famous ''Friendship is Magic'' fanfics out there. It has fan art, fan music, there are fan games being made for it including ''Fallout 3'' mods, and it has inspired dozens of spin-off fics. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories. According to an Equestria Daily mod, ''Fallout Equestria'' simply came out at the right time, when there weren't very many quality control restrictions on fics, to the point where if it never would have passed moderation if submitted later.
* ''Fanfic/ATrekkiesTale''. Being the source of the term MarySue, people who seek the story out may be disappointed to find that it's extremely short, and a short quite a basic parody. Then, you consider that it It was written in the early '70s, when even the idea of modern fanfic itself was in its infancy. The fact that it was parodying the very things that make up MarySue characters, which were already becoming common in Star Trek fanfiction back then. at the time, adds to this. Additionally, the concept of a MarySue has changed a ''lot'' since the seventies - just as storytelling has. Accusations seventies--accusations of CanonSue are ''far'' far more common in traditional heroes and even of older works in TheNewTens than they were in the seventies and eighties.
* There are whole rafts of ''Franchise/BattlestarGalactica''[=/=]''Series/StargateSG1'' fics out there in which the Colonials are all portrayed as religious fanatic nutjobs who are offended... ''OFFENDED'', I tell you... you...that the people of Earth don't immediately throw away their false religions and their stupid ideas of freedom and democracy and join with their ancestral brothers in the worship of the Gods of Kobol and step in line with the military dictatorship that runs the 12 Colonies. It all stems back to one rather well-done particular story that has since been endlessly copied, in which the Colonials are religious, religious but they aren't not quite that level of fanatic.
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* ''Fanfic/QueenOfAllOni'' was one of the first major ''WesternAnimation/JackieChanAdventures'' fics to run with the reemergence of Jade's SuperPoweredEvilSide, the Queen of the Shadowkhan, as its main premise. It proved incredibly popular and quickly spawned numerous other fics with the same concept, to the point that some reviewers of later chapters dismissed it as just being another one, unaware of it having come first.
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* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliché and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.

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* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of the ''FTLFasterThanLight'' fic ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliché and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.
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** ''FanFic/TheDracoTrilogy'' is a classic of this trope in action. A modern reader who is overly familiar with the concept (and [[SturgeonsLaw often poor implementation]]) of DracoInLeatherPants stories, both within and outside of the ''Harry Potter'' fandom, may well find this story's concept relatively unoriginal.
** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its insanely charismatic main lead Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.

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** ''FanFic/TheDracoTrilogy'' is a classic of this trope in action. A modern reader who is overly familiar with the concept (and [[SturgeonsLaw often poor implementation]]) implementation) of DracoInLeatherPants stories, both within and outside of the ''Harry Potter'' fandom, may well find this story's concept relatively unoriginal.
** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its insanely charismatic main lead Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.



** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[RecurringFanonCharacter mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfits compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon regarding "Flippy-sue"s was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see [now-retired] zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animations). It also helps that the show has a ''very'' loose continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm after ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex ''HTF'' stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.

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** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[RecurringFanonCharacter mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfits compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, on, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon regarding "Flippy-sue"s was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw.soon. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see [now-retired] zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animations). It also helps that the show has a ''very'' loose continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however).acceptable. But ClicheStorm after ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex ''HTF'' stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
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* InUniverse, in Chapter 31 of ''Fanfic/OriginStory'', Carol Danvers calls a [[{{Superman}} Kryptonian]] superhero "presumptuous and arrogant" for using the word "super" in their hero name, as if they were the first superhero to ever walk the earth.

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* InUniverse, in Chapter 31 of ''Fanfic/OriginStory'', Carol Danvers calls a [[{{Superman}} [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Kryptonian]] superhero "presumptuous and arrogant" for using the word "super" in their hero name, as if they were the first superhero to ever walk the earth.
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** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories.

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** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale epic-scale, actionized, DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom.fandom and ''easily'' one of the most famous ''Friendship is Magic'' fanfics out there. It has fan art, fan music, there are fan games being made for it including ''Fallout 3'' mods, and it has inspired dozens of spin-off fics. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories. According to an Equestria Daily mod, ''Fallout Equestria'' simply came out at the right time, when there weren't very many quality control restrictions on fics, to the point where if it never would have passed moderation if submitted later.
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** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its [[MarySue insanely charismatic main lead]] Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.

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** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its [[MarySue insanely charismatic main lead]] lead Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000s bands like Music/{{Evanescence}} and Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.
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* When written in 2001 ''FanFic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but based on a cute show like ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.

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* When written in 2001 ''FanFic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' ''Fanfic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but based on a cute show like ''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''.''Fanfic/CupcakesSergeantSprinkles''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.
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** ''{{FanFic/Cupcakes}}'' was the first major MLP DarkFic with copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, and was generally considered the most disturbing thing in the fandom when it came out. Ever since then, there have been an awful lot of [[DarkFic grimdark]] imitators that make ''Cupcakes'' look mundane in comparison (Example: ''Sweet Apple Massacre'') and now some people don't find it as scary.

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** ''{{FanFic/Cupcakes}}'' ''Fanfic/CupcakesSergeantSprinkles'' was the first major MLP DarkFic with copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, and was generally considered the most disturbing thing in the fandom when it came out. Ever since then, there have been an awful lot of [[DarkFic grimdark]] imitators that make ''Cupcakes'' look mundane in comparison (Example: ''Sweet Apple Massacre'') and now some people don't find it as scary.
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*** ''{{FanFic/Cupcakes}}'' was the first major MLP DarkFic with copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, and was generally considered the most disturbing thing in the fandom when it came out. Ever since then, there have been an awful lot of [[DarkFic grimdark]] imitators that make ''Cupcakes'' look mundane in comparison (Example: ''Sweet Apple Massacre'') and now some people don't find it as scary.
*** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories.

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*** ** ''{{FanFic/Cupcakes}}'' was the first major MLP DarkFic with copious amounts of {{Gorn}}, and was generally considered the most disturbing thing in the fandom when it came out. Ever since then, there have been an awful lot of [[DarkFic grimdark]] imitators that make ''Cupcakes'' look mundane in comparison (Example: ''Sweet Apple Massacre'') and now some people don't find it as scary.
*** ** ''Fanfic/FalloutEquestria'' was the first epic-scale DoorStopper fanfic to gain real popularity in the fandom. Had it been written after the first few seasons, it would have simply been one among many other similar stories.

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
** In the early days of the fandom many fans liked the ideal that [[BigGood Princess Celestia]] was really [[RonTheDeathEater evil]] or at least a KnightTemplar. However soon after, fanfics about her being a HeroWithBadPublicity or TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask woobie started showing up. Now Celestia would be no worse than a Harmless Troll.
** There are numerous cases of fanfics written early in the life of the fandom that were well-known and popular for being the first to utilize certain ideas, and now come across as rather non-notable in light of everything produced since then:

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'':
** In the early days of the fandom many fans liked the ideal that [[BigGood Princess Celestia]] was really [[RonTheDeathEater evil]] or at least a KnightTemplar. However soon after, fanfics about her being a HeroWithBadPublicity or TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask woobie started showing up. Now Celestia would be no worse than a Harmless Troll.
** There are
''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has numerous cases of fanfics written early in the life of the fandom that were well-known and popular for being the first to utilize certain ideas, and now come across as rather non-notable in light of everything produced since then:
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* This effect can happen a lot with online fanfiction as well; any particularly well-executed fanfic that takes source material in a new direction is likely to spawn a [[FollowTheLeader horde of imitators]], rapidly turning the original author's new and innovative take on the source material into a tired cliche. With fanfics that are LongRunners or suffer from ScheduleSlip a story can actually go from innovative to cliched before the author is even done writing it. Of course, [[PlayedForLaughs an outright parody]] might not do as much harm as expected, since, after all, it's not the ''real'' thing.
** A lot of older fanfic suffers from this, especially in large, well-trafficked forums like ''Franchise/HarryPotter'', when a fic that [[TropeMaker invented]] or [[TropeCodifier popularised]] a popular piece of {{fanon}} is examined in light of what went after.
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* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As time has gone by, though, and the show continued to improve, the production seems basic in comparison (As pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or reach downright DudeNotFunny levels. It's gotten to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season before they retired from abridging entirely.

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* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As time has gone by, though, and the show continued to improve, the production seems basic in comparison (As pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or reach downright DudeNotFunny levels.offensive. It's gotten to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season before they retired from abridging entirely.
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** Also, the amusing parody crossover ''Sailor Ranko'' spawned an ''[[FukuFic entire subgenre]]'' of Ranma fanfiction.
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* While Week 6 of the ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' introduced the idea of characters transforming to fit the progression of the story, ''VideoGame/VSWhitty'' was the first well-known mod of the game to take advantage of the concept. As such, it's become a bit of a trend for this to happen in original character mods, to the point where some people have a poor view of the concept in general, forgetting that when Whitty did it it was a relatively fresh idea. As a result, parodies or subversions of the concept have become just as common as straight takes.
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** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its [[MarySue insanely charismatic main lead]] Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000's bands like ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' and ''Music/MyChemicalRomance'' in a book series that WordOfGod has said actually takes place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.

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** ''FanFic/MyImmortal'' is known as possibly the UrExample of a TrollFic and ''with good reason''. Back in 2006, it '''quickly''' gained a ton of notoriety for its [[StylisticSuck seemingly intentional grammatical errors in every sentence of every paragraph of every chapter!]], its [[MarySue insanely charismatic main lead]] Ebony “Enoby” Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way, ''[[CanonDefilement deliberate defilement]]'' of established ''Harry Potter'' {{canon}}, (i.e changing the title character and Draco Malfoy's sexualities and making them emo/scene fans for no real reason) and oh did we mention the '''staggering''' amount of AuthorAppeal by including 2000's 2000s bands like ''Music/{{Evanescence}}'' Music/{{Evanescence}} and ''Music/MyChemicalRomance'' Music/MyChemicalRomance in a book series that WordOfGod has said actually takes which is supposed to take place in the ''nineties''? At one point, it was '''the most viewed fan-fic on Fanfiction.net'''. Naturally, [[FollowTheLeader it spawned a truck-load of imitators in other fandoms]], but as per SturgeonsLaw, other attempts at writing hilariously stupid {{fanfic}}s which have their fans haven't made as big a splash as ''My Immortal'' did back in the day.
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* ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'': Specific fanfic-related trends suffer from this. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show:
** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex ''HTF'' stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of]] ''[[WordOfGod HTF]]''.

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* ''WebAnimation/HappyTreeFriends'': Specific fanfic-related trends suffer from this.being considering interesting or revolutionary at the time, but boring or overdone now. Of note are the [[OriginalCharacter fan character]] Ale and more elaborate takes on stories involving this show:
** Ale, first and foremost, was a fan character so popular, fans tended to [[WordOfDante [[RecurringFanonCharacter mistake her for a canon character]]. But then [[FollowTheLeader more fan characters with her basic template]] (often female; wears military outfit or, if not, more complex-looking outfit outfits compared to even the [[FullyDressedCartoonAnimal fully-clothed canon characters]]; can flip out like Flippy; often made as a SelfInsert to [[WishFulfillment be with Flippy]]) show up, and the term "Flippy-sue" is coined as a protest against this practice. Her creator later considered her work as an OldShame and no longer allowed anyone to involve Ale in their HTF fanworks. Even then, the Flippy-sue trend is still going on as part of SturgeonsLaw, which often tires the fans and is usually the main point raised when criticizing the fanbase.
** The inverse of the above (Flippy-sues in general) also suffers from this. Back then, jumping on the hate bandwagon regarding "Flippy-sue"s was considered a "true fan" thing to do. But consider that the Flippy-sue trend won't die anytime soon thanks to SturgeonsLaw. Eventually, even other fans have become ''sick of Flippy-sue haters'' as much as or even more so than the fans that made said characters. In their defense, hating on something that's already inevitable in a fandom is pretty much pointless. Expect "Fandom Nazi" argument when it comes to this.
** Elaborate stories involving ''HTF''. Back then, this was a popular way of expanding the show in fanworks (see (now-retired) [now-retired] zolrac3005's works as a more popular example, which is helped by his ability to apply that to his near-show-perfect Flash animation). animations). It also helps that the show has (almost) negative a ''very'' loose continuity, allowing fans to have their freedom in developing their own ''HTF'' stories. Fan characters are often involved, but back then they were mostly acceptable (SturgeonsLaw is still strong even back then, however). But ClicheStorm after ClicheStorm and a flood of poorly-made fan characters occurred, causing fans to complain that said stories made the show look InNameOnly. Nowadays, fans still have their own takes on complex ''HTF'' stories, but it's rare for them to get any sort of praise, even the ones that involve exclusively the canon cast.
** %%** The idea of human [[OriginalCharacter fan characters]], while the whole concept results in a BrokenBase of its own and regardless whether you support the idea or not, has become this ever since [[WordOfGod Kenn Navarro confirmed that humans don't exist in the world of]] ''[[WordOfGod HTF]]''.



* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliche and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.
* InUniverse, in Chapter 31 of ''FanFic/OriginStory'', Carol Danvers calls a [[{{Superman}} Kryptonian]] superhero "presumptuous and arrogant" for using the word "super" in their hero name, [[{{Superman}} as if they were the first superhero to ever walk the earth]].
* While Week 6 of the ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' introduced the idea of characters transforming to fit the progression of the song, ''VideoGame/VSWhitty'' was the first well-known mod of the game to take advantage of the concept. As such, it's become a bit of a trend for this to happen in original character mods, to the point where some people have a poor view of the concept in general, forgetting that when Whitty did it it was a relatively fresh idea.[[note]]One mod, ''VideoGame/VSSky'' has the Girlfriend lampshade this.[[/note]]

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* Discussed InUniverse in one chapter of ''Ghosts of the Federation.'' One crewmember states that he finds a certain [[NoSuchThingAsAlienPopCulture mantis film]] to be cliche cliché and hackneyed, to which the mantis crewwoman replies that it was the TropeCodifier for the whole genre.
* InUniverse, in Chapter 31 of ''FanFic/OriginStory'', ''Fanfic/OriginStory'', Carol Danvers calls a [[{{Superman}} Kryptonian]] superhero "presumptuous and arrogant" for using the word "super" in their hero name, [[{{Superman}} as if they were the first superhero to ever walk the earth]].
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* While Week 6 of the ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' introduced the idea of characters transforming to fit the progression of the song, story, ''VideoGame/VSWhitty'' was the first well-known mod of the game to take advantage of the concept. As such, it's become a bit of a trend for this to happen in original character mods, to the point where some people have a poor view of the concept in general, forgetting that when Whitty did it it was a relatively fresh idea.[[note]]One mod, ''VideoGame/VSSky'' has As a result, parodies or subversions of the Girlfriend lampshade this.[[/note]]concept have become just as common as straight takes.
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* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As time has gone by, though, and the show continued to improve, the production seems basic in comparison (As pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or reach downright DudeNotFunny levels. It's gotten to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season.

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* The first season of ''WebVideo/DragonBallZAbridged'' is this. By 2008 standards, the production values were very good, the voice acting high quality, and the jokes often genuinely witty. As time has gone by, though, and the show continued to improve, the production seems basic in comparison (As pointed out on TFS's 10th anniversary stream, Krillin being edited out of a shot was considered a mindblowing edit, but is incredibly simple in comparison to what the show does now), the voice acting suffers from poor audio quality and lacking future VocalEvolution, and the humor is extremely hit or miss, with many jokes that are either groanworthy or reach downright DudeNotFunny levels. It's gotten to the point that TFS have discussed remaking the entire season.season before they retired from abridging entirely.
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* While Week 6 of the ''VideoGame/FridayNightFunkin'' introduced the idea of characters transforming to fit the progression of the song, ''VideoGame/VSWhitty'' was the first well-known mod of the game to take advantage of the concept. As such, it's become a bit of a trend for this to happen in original character mods, to the point where some people have a poor view of the concept in general, forgetting that when Whitty did it it was a relatively fresh idea.[[note]]One mod, ''VideoGame/VSSky'' has the Girlfriend lampshade this.[[/note]]
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* When written in 2001 ''FanFic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but based on a cute show like ''The Powerpuff Girls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.

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* When written in 2001 ''FanFic/ImmortalitySyndrome'' was a jarring fic for being so dark and violent but based on a cute show like ''The Powerpuff Girls''.''WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls''. In the years since, it's been surpassed by other, more violent fics, such as ''Fanfic/{{Cupcakes}}''. If anything, the cuter a series is, the more likely it is to spawn {{Dark Fic}}s written for the sole purpose of being edgy.

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