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* DoubleMeaningTitle: The title ''Second Edition'' fits this trope on several levels. It's the group's second album, it's the second edition of the album (originally released as a set of 12" singles in a metal film canister as ''Metal Box''), and it's the second edition of the band itself (with original drummer Jim Walker replaced by a variety of session players).
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* DoubleMeaningTitle: The title ''Second Edition'' fits this trope on several levels. It's the group's second album, it's the second edition of the album (originally (as noted, it was originally released as a set of 12" singles in a metal film canister as ''Metal Box''), and it's the second edition of the band itself (with original drummer Jim Walker replaced by a variety of session players).
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* ''Metal Box'' (1979)
** ''Second Edition'' (1980) (reissue of ''Metal Box'' without the elaborate packaging)
** ''Second Edition'' (1980) (reissue of ''Metal Box'' without the elaborate packaging)
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* ''Metal Box'' (1979)
(1979) (an hour of music packaged as 3 12" 45 RPM discs in a metal film can)
** ''Second Edition'' (1980)(reissue (double album reissue of ''Metal Box'' without the elaborate packaging)
** ''Second Edition'' (1980)
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* PunkInTheTrunk: "Poptones" is based on an incident where a girl was kidnapped, stipped naked, stuffed in a car trunk and left for dead in the woods. She was apparently ably to get back to civilization and was able to describe the tape the kidnappers were playing in the car, and they happened to be playing it when they were arrested
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album_(Public_Image_Ltd_album) Album]]'', aka ''Compact Disc'' or ''Cassette'', depending on the format.
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* ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Album_(Public_Image_Ltd_album) Album]]'', aka ''Compact Disc'' or ''Cassette'', depending on the format. Might also count as ShapedLikeItself, since, well, it's what the cover says it is.
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** Similarly, "Rise", from that album, has the word "Single" printed prominently on its cover (with "12 inch" added on the 12" version, of course).
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* AlternativeRock
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* AlternativeRockAlternativeRock: Transitioned to the genre after [[IAmTheBand the other members beside Lydon left]].
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* ItsBeenDone: Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an LiveAlbum called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
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* ItsBeenDone: Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an a LiveAlbum called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
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** "Love, war, fear, hate" from "Chant".
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** "Religion I" is just Lydon reciting the lyrics.
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* AlbumTitleDrop: ''This Is What You Want, This Is What You Get'' in both "Bad Life" and "The Order of Death". Also BrokenRecord in both cases.
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** "Religion I" is just Lydon reciting the lyrics.
* StepUpToTheMicrophone: Lydon is joined by Jah Wobble and Jim Walker on "Fodderstompf".
* StepUpToTheMicrophone: Lydon is joined by Jah Wobble and Jim Walker on "Fodderstompf".
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* AvantGardeMusic: Their early music (particularly ''Metal Box'' and ''Flowers of Romance'') was never commercial in the slightest.
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* AvantGardeMusic: Their early music (particularly ''Metal Box'' and ''Flowers ''The Flowers of Romance'') was never commercial in the slightest.slightest; Lydon even called ''The Flowers of Romance'' one of the least commercial albums ever created.
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** ''Flowers of Romance'' dropped the metallic guitars and thick basslines in favour of ''Music/PeterGabriel 3''-inspired percussion and aural chaos.
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** ''Flowers ''The Flowers of Romance'' dropped the metallic guitars and thick basslines in favour of ''Music/PeterGabriel 3''-inspired a proto-PostRock sound consisting of percussion textures and aural chaos.chaos, inspired by Music/PeterGabriel[='s=] third SelfTitledAlbum.
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* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''The Flowers of Romance'' (to the point where Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} outright classifies it as post-rock).
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* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''The Flowers of Romance'' (to the point where Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} outright classifies it that album as post-rock).
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* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''Metal Box''.
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* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''Metal Box''.''The Flowers of Romance'' (to the point where Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} outright classifies it as post-rock).
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* LeadDrummer: On ''The Flowers of Romance'', Martyn Atkins' drums are as prominent in the mix as Lydon's vocals, sometimes overshadowing Levene's guitar and synthesizer.
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* PostRock: One of many arguable [[UrExample Ur-Examples]], especially on ''Metal Box''.
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* ItsBeenDone: Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an album called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
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* ItsBeenDone: Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an album LiveAlbum called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
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* AvantGardeMusic: Their music was never commercial in the slightest.
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* AvantGardeMusic: Their early music (particularly ''Metal Box'' and ''Flowers of Romance'') was never commercial in the slightest.
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* PostPunk
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* PostPunkPostPunk: One of the best-known bands in the genre.
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* UsefulNotes/ATouchOfClassEthnicityAndReligion: Something of a running theme, especially in the early work, rather unsurprisingly given Lydon's Irish Catholic London working class background. Expect digs at the Catholic Church (see also ReligionRantSong, above), and the British class system. On ''Metal Box'', "Careering" and "The Suit" come with a side of AmbitionIsEvil, while "No Birds", "Chant" and "Careering" (again) make digs at the middle classes. (From "Chant": "It's not important/it's not worth a mention in ''[[BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]''... the likes of you and me are an embarrassment". From "Careering": "Both sides of the river/there is bacteria".)
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* UsefulNotes/ATouchOfClassEthnicityAndReligion: Something of a running theme, especially in the early work, rather unsurprisingly given Lydon's Irish Catholic London working class background. Expect digs at the Catholic Church (see also ReligionRantSong, above), and the British class system. On ''Metal Box'', "Careering" and "The Suit" come with a side of AmbitionIsEvil, while "No Birds", "Chant" and "Careering" (again) make digs at the middle classes. (From "Chant": "It's not important/it's not worth a mention in ''[[BritishNewspapers ''[[UsefulNotes/BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]''... the likes of you and me are an embarrassment". From "Careering": "Both sides of the river/there is bacteria".)
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* DarkerAndEdgier: The creative output of Public Image Ltd. as a whole is this to John Lydon's previous work with the Sex Pistols. ''Metal Box'' in particular stands out as a surprisingly bleak record for someone who once irreverently proclaimed himself "an Antichrist".
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work and creator names are not supposed to be in bold (that's for the Other Wiki)
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'''Public Image Ltd.''' ([=PiL=] for short) are a PostPunk band (and possibly an UrExample of the genre/aesthetic) formed by Music/JohnLydon in 1978 after his departure from the Music/SexPistols, a move that freed him to pursue his interest in [[AvantGardeMusic experimental music]], [[{{Reggae}} dub]], [[ProgressiveRock prog rock]], and various other types of music that were ''non grata'' in the world of late 70's PunkRock that the Pistols had helped cultivate. The group has gone through a bewildering range of changes of [[RevolvingDoorBand personnel]] and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly musical styles]], and occasional hiatuses, and at this point effectively consists of [[FaceOfTheBand Lydon]] and whoever else is in the band at the moment.
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* ItsBeenDone: Flipper came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an album called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
* MadnessMantra: "We only wanted to be loved" from "Fodderstompf".
* MadnessMantra: "We only wanted to be loved" from "Fodderstompf".
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* ItsBeenDone: Flipper Music/{{Flipper}} came out with a "generic album" before [=PiL=] did. Flipper released an album called ''Public Flipper Ltd.'' as a TakeThat.
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** "We only wanted to be loved" from "Fodderstompf".
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The band split in 1992, and Lydon attempted a solo career (that only resulted in a single album, ''Psycho's Path'', which bombed) and then reunited The Music/SexPistols. In 2009, Lydon reunited [=PiL=] with a lineup consisting of Lydon, former members Lu Edmonds and Bruce Smith, and multi-instrumentalist Scott Firth. A new album, ''This Is [=PiL=]'', was issued in May 2012.
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The band split in 1992, and Lydon attempted a solo career (that only resulted in a single album, ''Psycho's Path'', which bombed) and then reunited The Music/SexPistols. In 2009, Lydon reunited [=PiL=] with a lineup consisting of Lydon, former members Lu Edmonds and Bruce Smith, and multi-instrumentalist Scott Firth. A new album, ''This Is [=PiL=]'', was issued in May 2012.
Studio2012; a follow-up, ''What the World Needs Now...'', was released in September 2015.
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* HiddenDepths: People were surprised to find that Johnny Rotten is a fan of ProgRock.
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* HiddenDepths: People were surprised to find that Johnny Rotten is a fan of ProgRock.ProgressiveRock.
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'''Public Image Ltd.''' ([=PiL=] for short) are a PostPunk band (and possibly an UrExample of the genre/aesthetic) formed by Music/JohnLydon in 1978 after his departure from the Music/SexPistols, a move that freed him to pursue his interest in [[AvantGardeMusic experimental music]], dub, prog rock and various other types of music that were ''non grata'' in the world of late 70's PunkRock that the Pistols had helped cultivate. The group has gone through a bewildering range of changes of [[RevolvingDoorBand personnel]] and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly musical styles]], and occasional hiatuses, and at this point effectively consists of [[FaceOfTheBand Lydon]] and whoever else is in the band at the moment.
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'''Public Image Ltd.''' ([=PiL=] for short) are a PostPunk band (and possibly an UrExample of the genre/aesthetic) formed by Music/JohnLydon in 1978 after his departure from the Music/SexPistols, a move that freed him to pursue his interest in [[AvantGardeMusic experimental music]], dub, [[{{Reggae}} dub]], [[ProgressiveRock prog rock rock]], and various other types of music that were ''non grata'' in the world of late 70's PunkRock that the Pistols had helped cultivate. The group has gone through a bewildering range of changes of [[RevolvingDoorBand personnel]] and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly musical styles]], and occasional hiatuses, and at this point effectively consists of [[FaceOfTheBand Lydon]] and whoever else is in the band at the moment.
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The band split in 1992, and Lydon attempted a solo career (that only resulted in a single album, ''Psycho's Path'', which bombed) and then reunited The Music/SexPistols. In 2009, Lydon reunited [=PiL=] with a lineup consisting of Lydon, former members Lu Edmonds and Bruce Smith, and multi-instrumentalist Scott Firth. A new album, ''This is [=PiL=]'', was issued in May 2012.
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The band split in 1992, and Lydon attempted a solo career (that only resulted in a single album, ''Psycho's Path'', which bombed) and then reunited The Music/SexPistols. In 2009, Lydon reunited [=PiL=] with a lineup consisting of Lydon, former members Lu Edmonds and Bruce Smith, and multi-instrumentalist Scott Firth. A new album, ''This is Is [=PiL=]'', was issued in May 2012.
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* ''That What is Not'' (1992)
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* ''That What is Is Not'' (1992)
* ''Thisis Is [=PiL=]'' (2012)
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* FlowersOfRomance: The TropeNamer. John Lydon named the song after a band his sometime friend Sid Vicious had led before joining the Music/SexPistols, which itself took its name from Baudelaire's ''Les Fleurs du Mal'' ("the flowers of evil"). "Flowers Of Romance" deals with an imminent breakup:
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* FlowersOfRomance: The TropeNamer. John Lydon named the song after a band his sometime friend Sid Vicious had led before joining the Music/SexPistols, which itself took its name from Baudelaire's ''Les Fleurs du Mal'' ("the flowers mal'' ("The Flowers of evil"). Evil"). "Flowers Of of Romance" deals with an imminent breakup:
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* GriefSong: "Death Disco", aka "Swan Lake" is about the death of Lydon's mother. This may not be immediately obvious.
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* GriefSong: "Death Disco", aka "Swan Lake" Lake", is about the death of Lydon's mother. This may not be immediately obvious.
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** ''This is What You Want, This is What You Get'' was a dance and pop record.
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** ''This is [=PiL=]'' returns to the Dub and Krautrock-inspired sound of their early records.
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** ''This is Is [=PiL=]'' returns to the Dub [[{{Reggae}} Dub]] and Krautrock-inspired {{Krautrock}}-inspired sound of their early records.
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* {{Sampling}}: A loop of John Lydon singing "no future", taken from the Music/SexPistols' "God Save The Queen", shows up near the end of "Acid Drops". And one extended remix of "The Body" uses the oft-sampled drum machine beat of Schoolly D's "PSK (What Does It Mean?)".
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* {{Sampling}}: A loop of John Lydon singing "no future", taken from the Music/SexPistols' "God Save The the Queen", shows up near the end of "Acid Drops". And one extended remix of "The Body" uses the oft-sampled drum machine beat of Schoolly D's "PSK (What Does It Mean?)".
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* {{Shout Out}}s: Include ''Literature/TheRimeOfTheAncientMariner'' ("Albatross") and Keats' ''La Belle Dame Sans Merci'' ("No Birds")
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* TakeThat: It's a band led by Music/JohnLydon. A ''lot'' of things and people get on his nerves. The music industry ("This Is Not A Love Song"), religion (see ReligionRantSong), UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} and its hotels ("Seattle"), Music/LouReed ("Where Are You"), broadsheet newspapers ("Chant"), UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush ([[FunWithAcronyms "U.S.L.S.1"]]), intrusive fans ("Banging The Door"). Every so often, for variety, he has [[SelfDeprecation a go at himself]], too. And quite a few songs are {{Take That}}s taken to a level of abstraction where you're definitely sure he's having a go at ''something'' or ''someone'', even if you're not sure exactly what or whom.
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* TakeThat: It's a band led by Music/JohnLydon. A ''lot'' of things and people get on his nerves. The music industry ("This Is Not A a Love Song"), religion (see ReligionRantSong), UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} and its hotels ("Seattle"), Music/LouReed ("Where Are You"), broadsheet newspapers ("Chant"), UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush ([[FunWithAcronyms "U.S.L.S.1"]]), intrusive fans ("Banging The the Door"). Every so often, for variety, he has [[SelfDeprecation a go at himself]], too. And quite a few songs are {{Take That}}s taken to a level of abstraction where you're definitely sure he's having a go at ''something'' or ''someone'', even if you're not sure exactly what or whom.
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The new PiL album should be out today.
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* ''What the World Needs Now...'' (2015)
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Public Image Ltd. ([=PiL=] for short) are a PostPunk band (and possibly an UrExample of the genre/aesthetic) formed by John Lydon in 1978 after his departure from the Music/SexPistols, a move that freed him to pursue his interest in experimental music, dub, prog rock and various other types of music that were ''non grata'' in the world of late 70's PunkRock that the Pistols had helped cultivate. The group has gone through a bewildering range of changes of [[RevolvingDoorBand personnel]] and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly musical styles]], and occasional hiatuses, and at this point effectively consists of [[FaceOfTheBand Lydon]] and whoever else is in the band at the moment.
The group has at various points included, among others, Jah Wobble and Keith Levene (founder members), [[Music/{{Cream}} Ginger Baker]], Steve Vai, and Music/{{Magazine}}'s John [=McGeogh=].
The group has at various points included, among others, Jah Wobble and Keith Levene (founder members), [[Music/{{Cream}} Ginger Baker]], Steve Vai, and Music/{{Magazine}}'s John [=McGeogh=].
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The group has at various points included, among others, Jah Wobble and Keith Levene (founder members), [[Music/{{Cream}} Ginger Baker]],
* AvantGardeMusic: Their music was never commercial in the slightest.
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* TakeThat: It's a band led by Johnny Lydon. A ''lot'' of things and people get on his nerves. The music industry ("This Is Not A Love Song"), religion (see ReligionRantSong), UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} and its hotels ("Seattle"), Music/LouReed ("Where Are You"), broadsheet newspapers ("Chant"), UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush ([[FunWithAcronyms "U.S.L.S.1"]]), intrusive fans ("Banging The Door"). Every so often, for variety, he has [[SelfDeprecation a go at himself]], too. And quite a few songs are {{Take That}}s taken to a level of abstraction where you're definitely sure he's having a go at ''something'' or ''someone'', even if you're not sure exactly what or whom.
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* TakeThat: It's a band led by Johnny Lydon.Music/JohnLydon. A ''lot'' of things and people get on his nerves. The music industry ("This Is Not A Love Song"), religion (see ReligionRantSong), UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}} and its hotels ("Seattle"), Music/LouReed ("Where Are You"), broadsheet newspapers ("Chant"), UsefulNotes/GeorgeHWBush ([[FunWithAcronyms "U.S.L.S.1"]]), intrusive fans ("Banging The Door"). Every so often, for variety, he has [[SelfDeprecation a go at himself]], too. And quite a few songs are {{Take That}}s taken to a level of abstraction where you're definitely sure he's having a go at ''something'' or ''someone'', even if you're not sure exactly what or whom.
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* ATouchOfClassEthnicityAndReligion: Something of a running theme, especially in the early work, rather unsurprisingly given Lydon's Irish Catholic London working class background. Expect digs at the Catholic Church (see also ReligionRantSong, above), and the British class system. On ''Metal Box'', "Careering" and "The Suit" come with a side of AmbitionIsEvil, while "No Birds", "Chant" and "Careering" (again) make digs at the middle classes. (From "Chant": "It's not important/it's not worth a mention in ''[[BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]''... the likes of you and me are an embarrassment". From "Careering": "Both sides of the river/there is bacteria".)
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* ATouchOfClassEthnicityAndReligion: UsefulNotes/ATouchOfClassEthnicityAndReligion: Something of a running theme, especially in the early work, rather unsurprisingly given Lydon's Irish Catholic London working class background. Expect digs at the Catholic Church (see also ReligionRantSong, above), and the British class system. On ''Metal Box'', "Careering" and "The Suit" come with a side of AmbitionIsEvil, while "No Birds", "Chant" and "Careering" (again) make digs at the middle classes. (From "Chant": "It's not important/it's not worth a mention in ''[[BritishNewspapers The Guardian]]''... the likes of you and me are an embarrassment". From "Careering": "Both sides of the river/there is bacteria".)
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* SelfDeprecation: "We only wanted to finish the album with a minimum amount of effort, which we are now doing very successfully!"
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* SelfDeprecation: From "Fodderstompf": "We only wanted to finish the album with a minimum amount of effort, which we are now doing very successfully!"
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: A recurring lyrical theme, even if it seems mostly to be a subtrope of JL's fondness for {{Take That}}s in general ("Disappointed", "FFF" ["Farewell, my Fairweather Friend"][[note]]Towards Keith Levene[[/note]], "Albatross"[[note]]Towards Malcom [=McLaren=][[/note]])
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* WeUsedToBeFriends: A recurring lyrical theme, even if it seems mostly to be a subtrope of JL's fondness for {{Take That}}s in general ("Disappointed", "FFF" ["Farewell, my Fairweather Friend"][[note]]Towards Keith Levene[[/note]], "Albatross"[[note]]Towards Malcom Malcolm [=McLaren=][[/note]])
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* MadnessMantra: "We only want to be loved" from "Fodderstompf".
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* GreatestHitsAlbum: ''The Greatest Hits, So Far'', which had a chronological track-listing (covering 1978 through 1990), and featured one new song, "Don't Ask Me".