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* InnocentFanserviceGirl - Sakura's puppeteer should ''really'' consider wearing thicker clothing.
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* InnocentFanserviceGirl - InnocentFanserviceGirl:
** Sakura's puppeteer should ''really'' consider wearing thickerclothing.clothing.
** Renge falls into this with her clumsy habits, her soft-spoken personality, and her two greatest "talents".
** Sakura's puppeteer should ''really'' consider wearing thicker
** Renge falls into this with her clumsy habits, her soft-spoken personality, and her two greatest "talents".
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** Nearly everyone in ''16-sai'' has an expy in ''17-sai''. Justified since [[spoiler:the Old Man repeatedly goes to high school with a different generation each time.]]
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** Ran, Yuri and Sakura in ''17-sai''. Sakura especially.
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** Ran, Yuri and Sakura Takano in ''17-sai''. Sakura especially.
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* PutOnABus - [[spoiler: Sakura gets expelled because he wants to "travel the world". Ageha drops out once a talent scouts her.]]
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* PutOnABus - [[spoiler: Sakura gets expelled because he wants to "travel the world". Ageha drops out once a talent agency scouts her.]]
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* [[StupidSexyFlanders Stupid Sexy Sumire]] - Throughout both series, Sumire has her fair share of admirers. More than one of them are fully aware that she's a puppet controlled by an old man.
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* [[StupidSexyFlanders Stupid Sexy Sumire]] - Throughout both series, Sumire has her fair share of admirers. More than one of them are fully aware that she's a puppet controlled by an old man. One of them likes her ''because'' she's a puppet controlled by an old man.
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** Ran, Yuri and Sakura in ''17-sai''. Sakura especially.
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* [[StupidSexyFlanders Stupid Sexy Sumire]] - Who knew that people could fall in love with a puppet?
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* [[StupidSexyFlanders Stupid Sexy Sumire]] - Who knew Throughout both series, Sumire has her fair share of admirers. More than one of them are fully aware that people could fall in love with she's a puppet?puppet controlled by an old man.
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** In the afterword of ''Sumire 16-sai'', WordOfGod says the old man [[spoiler: will never have his identity revealed, because he's in everyone's heart. Somewhat deep? Maybe. An obvious cop-out? Definitely.]]
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* KarmaHoudini - Ageha doesn't really change her ways (despite being saved by Sumire ''twice'' in situations where her vamp-like tendencies land her in serious trouble) and yet, got a reasonably happy ending.
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* PutOnABus - [[spoiler: Sakura gets expelled because he wants to "travel the world". Ageha drops out once a talent scouts her.]]
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* [[StupidSexyFlanders Stupid Sexy Sumire]] - Who knew that people could fall in love with a puppet?
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** Some of Akebi's lines are chock full of disturbing implications that nobody (except Mizuki) seems to realize.
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* WholeEpisodeFlashback - Taken to a whole new level: Three of the chapters are dedicated to Sumire's musing about her earlier childhood. These chapters are named, quite aptly, Sumire 10 Sai!!.
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* WholeEpisodeFlashback - Taken to a whole new level: Three of the chapters are dedicated to Sumire's musing about her earlier childhood. These chapters are named, quite aptly, Sumire 10 Sai!!.
Sai!!. Hilariously, Renge and Akebi go from balking at the obvious FridgeHorror that the Old Man has been doing this for six years, to eagerly anticipating the third flashback.
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* LaserGuidedKarma - Takao chides Sakura for going out of his way to get himself involved in other people's business, such as molestation and bullying, and thinks he's better than Sakura because he doesn't bother himself with that. Afterwards he gets beaten up by a thug, with tons of people passing by and watching, but nobody doing anything. It's especially driven home when he looks out to crowd to help [[spoiler: only for him to seeother Takaos walking around.]]
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* LaserGuidedKarma - Takao chides Sakura for going out of his way to get himself involved in other people's business, such as molestation and bullying, and thinks he's better than Sakura because he doesn't bother himself with that. Afterwards he gets beaten up by a thug, with tons of people passing by and watching, but nobody doing anything. It's especially driven home when he looks out to crowd to help [[spoiler: only for him to seeother see other Takaos walking around.]]
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* LaserGuidedKarma - Takao chides Sakura for going out of his way to get himself involved in other people's business, such as molestation and bullying, and thinks he's better than Sakura because he doesn't bother himself with that. Afterwards he accidentally bumps into a thug, which causes him to get beaten up in public and nobody paying any attention. It's especially driven home when he looks out to crowd to help [[spoiler: only for him other Takaos walking around, representing people who didn't want to get involved in something so troublesome.]]
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* LaserGuidedKarma - Takao chides Sakura for going out of his way to get himself involved in other people's business, such as molestation and bullying, and thinks he's better than Sakura because he doesn't bother himself with that. Afterwards he accidentally bumps into a thug, which causes him to get gets beaten up in public by a thug, with tons of people passing by and watching, but nobody paying any attention. doing anything. It's especially driven home when he looks out to crowd to help [[spoiler: only for him other to seeother Takaos walking around, representing people who didn't want to get involved in something so troublesome.around.]]
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* BystanderSyndrome - Basically the entire point of Takao's introduction story
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* OnlySaneMan - Renge and Mizuki both fit this, which is uncommon because in media it's usually a trope reserved for one person. Then again, with Sumire you probably need more than one person to you remind you how ridiculous it is.
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* OnlySaneMan - Renge and Mizuki both fit this, which is uncommon because in media it's usually a trope reserved for one person. Then again, this. Yeah, that's right -- with Sumire Sumire, you probably definitely need more than one person main character to you remind you how ridiculous it is.
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* PaperThinDisguise - Sumire uses a wig to dress up as Mizuki to set the latter up on a date. Even Akebi can't ignore how badly it'll fail.
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* DoWrongRight - Sumire decides to use the hot springs with the other girls , despite the problems that would raise. Akebi is angry with the Old Man...not because he's a man in a hot spring with naked high school girls, but because he's wearing clothes at a hot spring.
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* OnlySaneMan - Renge and Mizuki both fit this, which is uncommon because in media it's usually a trope reserved for one person. Then again, with Sumire you probably need more than one person to you remind you how ridiculous it is.
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* HypocriticalHumor - About 95% of Sumire and Sakura's interactions will have this trope being involved.
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* ButtMonkey - The old man's willing to suffer to keep up the masquerade that Sumire's a real girl. And boy, does he suffer.
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* HollywoodPudgy - Renge worries about being too fat sometimes. Nothing the readers will notice.
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* HollywoodPudgy InnocentFanserviceGirl - Renge worries about being too fat sometimes. Nothing the readers will notice.Sakura's puppeteer should ''really'' consider wearing thicker clothing.
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* LesYay - Ageha's adoration of the woman controlling Sakura.
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* {{Moe}} - The Otakus mistake Renge's and Mizuki's behavior at the MaidCafe for some advanced knowledge about moe types.
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* TheWoobie - Renge. She has always been alone, was bullied throughout middle school and probably would have been through high school too if not for Sumire. She has serious self-confidence problems and used to play board games by herself. Don't you just want to hug her?
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** Akebi manages a chic clothes boutique in the city. Oh, and she's apparently engaged to Hiiragi Kazuma.
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** Akebi manages a chic clothes boutique in the city. Oh, and she's apparently engaged to Hiiragi Kazuma.Kazuma, who survived his operation and has returned to Japan.
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** And as for Sumire? [[spoiler:The old man and Sumire are seen walking home with the three girls introduced in ''Sumire 17-sai''.]]
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** And as for Sumire? [[spoiler:The old man and Sumire are seen walking home to school with the three girls introduced in ''Sumire 17-sai''.]]
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* ManlyTears: Shed obviously by the Old Man, [[spoiler:when Renge, Mizuki, and Akebi finally meet him again, after six years.]]
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** Renger is working as a designer at a toy company. She designed the same talking phone strap that Mizuki and Akebi coincidentally also use.
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** Renger Renge is working as a designer at a toy company. She designed the same talking phone strap that Mizuki and Akebi coincidentally also use.
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** And while Ageha herself couldn't make it to the reunion, we see a big bilboard for the movie she's starring in as the three friends barhop across the city.
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** And while Ageha herself couldn't make it to the reunion, we see a big bilboard billboard for the movie she's starring in as the three friends barhop across the city.city.
** And as for Sumire? [[spoiler:The old man and Sumire are seen walking home with the three girls introduced in ''Sumire 17-sai''.]]
** And as for Sumire? [[spoiler:The old man and Sumire are seen walking home with the three girls introduced in ''Sumire 17-sai''.]]
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* Prequel: Guess which series is to which? [[spoiler:If you guessed that ''16-sai'' is the prequel to ''17-sai'', then you guessed right.]]
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* Prequel: {{Prequel}}: Guess which series is to which? [[spoiler:If you guessed that ''16-sai'' is the prequel to ''17-sai'', then you guessed right.]]
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* Prequel: Guess which series is to which? [[If you guessed that ''16-sai'' is the prequel to ''17-sai'', then you guessed right.]]
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* Prequel: Guess which series is to which? [[If [[spoiler:If you guessed that ''16-sai'' is the prequel to ''17-sai'', then you guessed right.]]
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* Prequel: Guess which series is to which? [[If you guessed that ''16-sai'' is the prequel to ''17-sai'', then you guessed right.]]
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* StealthSequel: [[spoiler:Despite being published first, ''Sumire 17-sai'' is revealed to be set six years '''after''' ''Sumire 16-sai'' in the epilogue to the latter.]]
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** Renger is working as a designer at a toy company. She designed the same talking phone strap that Mizuki and Akebi coincidentally also use.
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** Suzuki became a member for Japan's Olympic swim team (!!), though he only got as far as the preliminaries during the actual Olympics.
** Lex returned to England, and became the apprentice of a famous ventriloquist.
** And while Ageha herself couldn't make it to the reunion, we see a big bilboard for the movie she's starring in as the three friends barhop across the city.
** Suzuki became a member for Japan's Olympic swim team (!!), though he only got as far as the preliminaries during the actual Olympics.
** Lex returned to England, and became the apprentice of a famous ventriloquist.
** And while Ageha herself couldn't make it to the reunion, we see a big bilboard for the movie she's starring in as the three friends barhop across the city.
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* AlphaBitch - Ageha Kuroki
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* AlphaBitch - Ageha KurokiKuroki.
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome - Subaru Tamiya just disappeared after chapter 13 and was never heard from again.
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome - Subaru Tamiya just disappeared after chapter 13 and was never heard from again. [[spoiler:He comes back during the epilogue, where it is revealed that he's been working as an theater actor]].
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** Mizuki apparently is working for a law firm, and is on the way to becoming a lawyer herself, with a focus on divorce cases, particularly those where there's a child involved.
** Akebi manages a chic clothes boutique in the city. Oh, and she's apparently engaged to Hiiragi Kazuma.
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** Mizuki apparently is working for a law firm, and is on the way to becoming a lawyer herself, with a focus on divorce cases, particularly those where there's a child involved.
** Akebi manages a chic clothes boutique in the city. Oh, and she's apparently engaged to Hiiragi Kazuma.
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* {{Dojikko}} - Renge gets classified as one by the Otakus at the maid café.
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* {{Dojikko}} - Renge gets classified as one by the Otakus at the maid café.MaidCafe.
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* MisaimedFandom - In-universe example. The otaku-crowd that started frequenting the maid-café after they saw maid-Sumire and her puppet-master.
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* MisaimedFandom - In-universe example. The otaku-crowd that started frequenting the maid-café MaidCafe after they saw maid-Sumire and her puppet-master.
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* {{Moe}} - The Otakus mistake Renge's and Mizuki's behavior at the maid café for some advanced knowledge about moe types.
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* {{Moe}} - The Otakus mistake Renge's and Mizuki's behavior at the maid café MaidCafe for some advanced knowledge about moe types.
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* {{Tsundere}} - Mizuki gets classified as one by the Otakus at the maid café.
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* {{Tsundere}} - Mizuki gets classified as one by the Otakus at the maid café.MaidCafe.
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* UnusualEuphemism - Akebi mentioning Renge's two greatest [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean "talents"]]."talents".
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