History Main / YouNoTakeCandle

This trope comes from two sources. First, English is a highly analytic language with little in the way of inflection (altering the spelling/pronunciation of various words to imply things such as case, number, tense, grammatical gender, etc.), so it requires a lot of words and many small auxillary particles to convey the same information some languages could in much fewer words. For instance, "no take candle!" would be a perfectly legitimate sentence in Latin (as would "no candle take!"). The second comes from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin pidgin languages]], highly simplified languages used by groups without a common language to communicate. Pidgins are stripped down to the absolute bare minimum of grammar needed to get one's point across, to make them easier to learn; some common English idioms like "long time no see", "sorry, no go" or "no X, no Y" are presumed to have their origin in the Chinese-English pidgin that emerged when the United Kingdom started commercial relationships with China[[note]]although, due to modern Mandarin's pretty minimal grammar, some like "long time no see" (or "好久不见") are word-for-word translations of legitimate Chinese phrases anyway[[/note]].

* The [[CloudCuckoolander quirky]] zombie priestess Adelleh from [[https://web.archive.org/web/20120503190052/http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5153268/1/Taken_T2 this]] ''Webcomic/LookingForGroup'' fanfic speaks like this, and is a ThirdPersonPerson. Interestingly, this is a subversion, since she's ''very'' intelligent, just somewhat off-kilter.

* {{Lampshaded}} in ''FanFic/TheDragonKingsTemple''. Both the Asyuntians and SG-1 regularly resort to this in order to get critical information across the language barrier, throwing grammar out the window and reducing everything to the simplest possible terms. [[Cunning Linguist Daniel]] finds this very frustrating, since it renders it just about impossible for him to figure out proper Asyuntian grammar.

There's actually a scientific word for this kind of speech pattern: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrammatism agrammatic speech]]. [[IThoughtItMeant Not the same]] as ungrammatical, but one of the worse kinds.

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{{Supertrope}} to the [[RaceTropes more racial]] AsianSpeekeeEngrish and TontoTalk. Unrelated to YouCantGetYeFlask, except in sense that we suck compared to [[MasterComputer computer overlords]]. Compare to HulkSpeak and StrangeSyntaxSpeaker. If the character ''can'' speak proper language, but nevertheless chooses to speak like this for some reason, it's ElectiveBrokenLanguage. If the speaker is otherwise very capable in their own language, then it is EloquentInMyNativeTongue. The TropeNamer is ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'', where kobolds, who wear candles on their heads to light their way in the mines, say this when attacked by a player character.

* Lin Bairon in Tajiri's SMASH and Wrestling New Classic promotions. She spoke English with a lot of confidence and enthusiasm, displaying excellent pronunciation, a decent vocabulary and terrible grammar.

* In the pro wrestling story, ''A Ring Of Their Own'', Ayoko Hamada is portrayed as someone who speaks like that. She's half-Japanese and half-Mexican. In the story, Japanese is her main language (the only other person in the story who speaks it is Lance Storm), Spanish is second and English is a very distant third, leading to some pretty funny segments.

* Subverted in ''{{Mongrels}}''. Nelson uses this to try to communicate with Rob the chimpanzee when he first meets him. Rob assumes that Nelson normally talks like that and responds in the same way, until they realise their mistake and switch to normal English.

{{Supertrope}} to the [[RaceTropes more racial]] AsianSpeekeeEngrish and TontoTalk. Unrelated to YouCantGetYeFlask, except in sense that we suck compared to [[MasterComputer computer overlords]]. Compare to HulkSpeak and StrangeSyntaxSpeaker. If the character ''can'' speak proper language, but nevertheless chooses to speak like this for some reason, it's ElectiveBrokenLanguage. If the speaker is otherwise very capable in their own language, then it is EloquentInMyNativeTongue. The TropeNamer is WorldOfWarcraft, where kobolds, who wear candles on their heads to light their way in the mines, say this when attacked by a player character.

* Demonstrated by Massacration, a Brazilian AffectionateParody of metal bands. "Far away/across the sea/Master never grow/Now the way/Against the fear/Master will is sure."

[-[[caption-width-right:350:"Yes, but please first learning how to better English."]]-]

This trope comes from two sources. First, English is a highly analytic language with little in the way of inflection (altering the spelling/pronunciation of various words to imply things such as case, number, tense, grammatical gender, etc.), so it requires a lot of words and many small auxillary particles to convey the same information some languages could in much fewer words. For instance, "no take candle!" would be a perfectly legitimate sentence in Latin (as would "no candle take!"). The second comes from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_language pidgin languages]], highly simplified languages used by groups without a common language to communicate. Pidgins are stripped down to the absolute bare minimum of grammar needed to get one's point across, to make them easier to learn; some common English idioms like "long time no see", "sorry, no go" or "no X, no Y" are presumed to have their origin in the Chinese-English pidgin that emerged when the United Kingdom started commercial relationships with China[[note]]although, due to modern Mandarin's pretty minimal grammar, some like "long time no see" (or "好久不见") are word-for-word translations of legitimate Chinese phrases anyway[[/note]].

There's actually a scientific word for this kind of speech pattern: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrammatism agrammatic speech]]. [[IThoughtItMeant Not the same]] as ungrammatical, but one of the worse kinds. It's also related to the linguistic phenomenon known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin Pidgin]], where two cultures that do not share a language may cobble together a composite way of speaking to make trade easier.

* Toys/Furby 's will talk like this when speaking English.

* In one of her standup acts, MargaretCho once joked that an advantage to being of Asian descent in the United States while going out to bars was that, when getting hit on by a guy in whom you are totally uninterested, you can state in You No Take Candle that you don't speak English.

There's actually a scientific word for this kind of speech pattern: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agrammatism agrammatic speech]]. [[IThoughtItMeant Not the same]] as ungrammatical, but [[NoExceptYes one of the worse kinds]]. It's also related to the linguistic phenomenon known as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin Pidgin]], where two cultures that do not share a language may cobble together a composite way of speaking to make trade easier.

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* ''TheGoonShow'' occasionally had "primitive" characters (Africans, Arabs, Red Indians, etc), who were usually played by the show's resident (black) singer Ray Ellington. Any UnfortunateImplications of this were partly subverted by Ellington's character clearly being more intelligent than any of the white characters. And it was the 1950s...

* From the ''Gensokyo20XX'' series, we have this initially with an age-regressed Reimu in a combination of HulkSpeak, which is justified seeing as she was initially age-regressed to formative years and was imprisoned being denied virtually no contact, aside from being injected with needles and apparently being brain-washed, thus she had to relearn her language skills, communicating more on the level that a rehabilitated WildChild might. The same also applied to Maribel and Renko, although with a more expanded vocabulary. This is mostly the case with Youmu, in 20XXV, who combines this, HulkSpeak, and TerseTalker, if her "Muhs" are translated, although this played straight, when she says, "Fuck you ass, Youmu do what want!"

{{Supertrope}} to the [[RaceTropes more racial]] AsianSpeekeeEngrish and TontoTalk. Unrelated to YouCantGetYeFlask, except in sense that we suck compared to [[MasterComputer computer overlords]]. Compare to HulkSpeak and StrangeSyntaxSpeaker. If the speaker is otherwise very capable in their own language, then it is EloquentInMyNativeTongue. The TropeNamer is WorldOfWarcraft, where kobolds, who wear candles on their heads to light their way in the mines, say this when attacked by a player character.

This trope comes from two sources. First, English is a highly analytic language with little in the way of inflection (altering the spelling/pronunciation of various words to imply things such as case, number, tense, grammatical gender, etc.), so it requires a lot of words and many small auxillary particles to convey the same information some languages could in much fewer words. For instance, "no take candle!" would be a perfectly legitimate sentence in Latin (as would "no candle take!"). The second comes from [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pidgin_language pidgin languages]], highly simplified languages used by groups without a common language to communicate. Pidgins are stripped down to the absolute bare minimum of grammar needed to get one's point across, to make them easier to learn; some common English idioms like "long time no see", "sorry, no go" or "no X, no Y" are presumed to have their origin in the Chinese-English pidgin that emerged when the United Kingdom started commercial relationships with China.

{{Supertrope}} to the [[RaceTropes more racial]] AsianSpeekeeEngrish and TontoTalk. Unrelated to YouCantGetYeFlask, except in sense that we suck compared to [[MasterComputer computer overlords]]. Compare to HulkSpeak and StrangeSyntaxSpeaker. If the speaker is otherwise very capable in their own language, then it is EloquentInMyNativeTongue. The TropeNamer is WorldOfWarcraft.