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[[quoteright:300:[[{{Gargoyles}} http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xanatos-steeple.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:300:David Xanatos from the cartoon ''{{Gargoyles}}'', whose {{Xanatos Gambit}}s lent this index its name.]]

->''"Ah, so you've stumbled upon this index by accident? Is '''that''' what you think? I'm so sorry to inform you, but [[BecauseDestinySaysSo there are no accidents]]. In fact, all of this has been a part of my elaborate scheme, and all your pathetic troping has just helped me bring it one-quarter complete. [[UnwittingPawn Fools]]."''

* If you can say "but what if he does this?" and that will mess up everything, then it's a BatmanGambit.
* If things do go wrong, but the person keeps adjusting things so that Plan-A works anyway, he's playing XanatosSpeedChess.
* If all reasonably possible outcomes are desirable, then it's a XanatosGambit...
** ... but if you say afterwards "Okay, there is NO WAY he could possibly have known that that would happen!" it's a XanatosRoulette.
* If someone ruins the plan by accident, the person is a SpannerInTheWorks.
* If someone ruins the plan by design, said plan is OutGambitted.
* If someone ruins the good guys' attempt against the evil plan by doing something very minor, they are a SwissMessenger.
* If the plan fails, but for some reason everything still goes as wanted, it's an UnintentionalBackupPlan.
* If someone actually sees all the plans, then that person can sometimes TakeAThirdOption.
* If there is no way for the planner to have known that option was even possible, then he [=~Didn't See That Coming~=].
* If you think you won, but actually did exactly what the other person wanted, you are an UnwittingPawn - simply furthering the plot doesn't qualify you as one.
* If the person's own ''death'' was factored into a favorable outcome, then it's a ThanatosGambit.
* When every character seems to have their own gambit, then a ThirtyXanatosPileup may ensue.

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!!However, if you want to see how other brilliant minds have gone about this sort of thing, direct your attention below:

[[index]]
* AloneWithPrisonerPloy
** TheTapeKnewYouWouldSayThat
* BastardlySpeech
* BattleOfWits
* CrazyPrepared
* DidYouJustScamCthulhu
* DivideAndConquer
* FakeWeakness
* GambitPileup
* GoodRunningEvil
* HonestyIsTheBestPolicy
* IKnowYouKnowIKnow
* KansasCityShuffle
* LetNoCrisisGoToWaste
* MacguffinDeliveryService
* MassiveMultiplayerScam
* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning
* PlayingBothSides
* RunningBothSides
* TrojanPrisoner
* UnintentionalBackupPlan.
* UnwittingPawn
* XanatosRoulette
* XanatosSpeedChess

!!Failures
* ComplexityAddiction
* [[{{ptitle7xno8ayw}} Didn't See That Coming]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard (Xanatos Backfire)
* OutGambitted (Vizzini Gambit)
* SpannerInTheWorks
** SwissMessenger
* TakeAThirdOption

!!Gambits
* BatmanGambit
** ParanoiaGambit
* CloningGambit
* DeceasedFallGuyGambit
* DeliberateInjuryGambit
* DespairGambit
* {{Impersonation Gambit}}
* MemoryGambit
* ScheherezadeGambit
* ThanatosGambit
* TroubleMagnetGambit
* TheUriahGambit
* WoundedGazelleGambit
** PoliceBrutalityGambit
** UnprovokedPervertPayback
* WoundedGazelleWarcry
* XanatosGambit
* ZeroApprovalGambit
** GenghisGambit

!!Planners
* TheChessmaster
* ClockKing
* GuileHero
* HiddenVillain
* HonestyIsTheBestPolicy
* MagnificentBastard
** BastardUnderstudy
* TheManBehindTheMan
* ManipulativeBastard
* MaryTzu
* PussInBoots
* TheStrategist
[[/index]]

''Of course, you know it appears that my plans are for you to read all of this information, but [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow I know you know that I know]] you know this. So, am I trying to talk you out of it, or just gloating about how well thought out my plan is? Excuse me as I indulge in an EvilLaugh ...''

[[TalkToTheFist *POW*]]

"Bet you [[DidntSeeThatComing didn't see that]] [[ShutUpHannibal shut up punch]] coming, did you?"

''[[{{Bleach}} Since when were you under that impression]]? I did, actually, [[XanatosRoulette and that is why I had cops hiding to catch you assaulting me]]. Have fun in jail.''

"[[ThirtyGambitPileup I knew you'd do that.]] So I set up a fake police call. Across town the police believe there is a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot pregnant murderous arsonist stealing a diamond while giving birth]] downtown."

" Ah, but you fail to realize i knew you would place just such a call. That is why over the past six months I have been manipulating various female members of your [[FiveManBand group]] so that now one of them is [[CrazyPrepared pregnant by a rapist, and is currently murdering that rapist by arson while stealing his wife's diamond ring.]] The police will by now have arrested your friend, making you that much less powerful in the fight against me."

"That still leaves us alone, and you with no backup"

"But that was never the plan. A police call with such an obscure message would have gone unnoticed. Also, that whole story with your friend, [[ILied I Lied]]. I have been merely taking up time so the poison in your system would catch up, and leave you dead."

"What do you-"[[KilledMidSentence *Choke*]].
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[[quoteright:300:[[{{Gargoyles}} http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/xanatos-steeple.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:300:David Xanatos from the cartoon ''{{Gargoyles}}'', whose {{Xanatos Gambit}}s lent this index its name.]]

->''"Ah, so you've stumbled upon this index by accident? Is '''that''' what you think? I'm so sorry to inform you, but [[BecauseDestinySaysSo there are no accidents]]. In fact, all of this has been a part of my elaborate scheme, and all your pathetic troping has just helped me bring it one-quarter complete. [[UnwittingPawn Fools]]."''

* If you can say "but what if he does this?" and that will mess up everything, then it's a BatmanGambit.
* If things do go wrong, but the person keeps adjusting things so that Plan-A works anyway, he's playing XanatosSpeedChess.
* If all reasonably possible outcomes are desirable, then it's a XanatosGambit...
** ... but if you say afterwards "Okay, there is NO WAY he could possibly have known that that would happen!" it's a XanatosRoulette.
* If someone ruins the plan by accident, the person is a SpannerInTheWorks.
* If someone ruins the plan by design, said plan is OutGambitted.
* If someone ruins the good guys' attempt against the evil plan by doing something very minor, they are a SwissMessenger.
* If the plan fails, but for some reason everything still goes as wanted, it's an UnintentionalBackupPlan.
* If someone actually sees all the plans, then that person can sometimes TakeAThirdOption.
* If there is no way for the planner to have known that option was even possible, then he [=~Didn't See That Coming~=].
* If you think you won, but actually did exactly what the other person wanted, you are an UnwittingPawn - simply furthering the plot doesn't qualify you as one.
* If the person's own ''death'' was factored into a favorable outcome, then it's a ThanatosGambit.
* When every character seems to have their own gambit, then a ThirtyXanatosPileup may ensue.

----
!!However, if you want to see how other brilliant minds have gone about this sort of thing, direct your attention below:

[[index]]
* AloneWithPrisonerPloy
** TheTapeKnewYouWouldSayThat
* BastardlySpeech
* BattleOfWits
* CrazyPrepared
* DidYouJustScamCthulhu
* DivideAndConquer
* FakeWeakness
* GambitPileup
* GoodRunningEvil
* HonestyIsTheBestPolicy
* IKnowYouKnowIKnow
* KansasCityShuffle
* LetNoCrisisGoToWaste
* MacguffinDeliveryService
* MassiveMultiplayerScam
* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning
* PlayingBothSides
* RunningBothSides
* TrojanPrisoner
* UnintentionalBackupPlan.
* UnwittingPawn
* XanatosRoulette
* XanatosSpeedChess

!!Failures
* ComplexityAddiction
* [[{{ptitle7xno8ayw}} Didn't See That Coming]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard (Xanatos Backfire)
* OutGambitted (Vizzini Gambit)
* SpannerInTheWorks
** SwissMessenger
* TakeAThirdOption

!!Gambits
* BatmanGambit
** ParanoiaGambit
* CloningGambit
* DeceasedFallGuyGambit
* DeliberateInjuryGambit
* DespairGambit
* {{Impersonation Gambit}}
* MemoryGambit
* ScheherezadeGambit
* ThanatosGambit
* TroubleMagnetGambit
* TheUriahGambit
* WoundedGazelleGambit
** PoliceBrutalityGambit
** UnprovokedPervertPayback
* WoundedGazelleWarcry
* XanatosGambit
* ZeroApprovalGambit
** GenghisGambit

!!Planners
* TheChessmaster
* ClockKing
* GuileHero
* HiddenVillain
* HonestyIsTheBestPolicy
* MagnificentBastard
** BastardUnderstudy
* TheManBehindTheMan
* ManipulativeBastard
* MaryTzu
* PussInBoots
* TheStrategist
[[/index]]

''Of course, you know it appears that my plans are for you to read all of this information, but [[IKnowYouKnowIKnow I know you know that I know]] you know this. So, am I trying to talk you out of it, or just gloating about how well thought out my plan is? Excuse me as I indulge in an EvilLaugh ...''

[[TalkToTheFist *POW*]]

"Bet you [[DidntSeeThatComing didn't see that]] [[ShutUpHannibal shut up punch]] coming, did you?"

''[[{{Bleach}} Since when were you under that impression]]? I did, actually, [[XanatosRoulette and that is why I had cops hiding to catch you assaulting me]]. Have fun in jail.''

"[[ThirtyGambitPileup I knew you'd do that.]] So I set up a fake police call. Across town the police believe there is a [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot pregnant murderous arsonist stealing a diamond while giving birth]] downtown."

" Ah, but you fail to realize i knew you would place just such a call. That is why over the past six months I have been manipulating various female members of your [[FiveManBand group]] so that now one of them is [[CrazyPrepared pregnant by a rapist, and is currently murdering that rapist by arson while stealing his wife's diamond ring.]] The police will by now have arrested your friend, making you that much less powerful in the fight against me."

"That still leaves us alone, and you with no backup"

"But that was never the plan. A police call with such an obscure message would have gone unnoticed. Also, that whole story with your friend, [[ILied I Lied]]. I have been merely taking up time so the poison in your system would catch up, and leave you dead."

"What do you-"[[KilledMidSentence *Choke*]].
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" Ah, but you fail to realize i knew you would place just such a call. That is why over the past six months I have been manipulating various female members of your [[FiveManBand group]] so that now one of them is [[CrazyPrepared pregnant by a rapist, and is currently murdering that rapist by arson while stealing his wife's diamond ring.]] The police will by now have arrested your friend, making you that much less powerful in the fight against me."

"That still leaves us alone, and you with no backup"

"But that was never the plan. A police call with such an obscure message would have gone unnoticed. Also, that whole story with your friend, [[ILied I Lied]]. I have been merely taking up time so the poison in your system would catch up, and leave you dead."

"What do you-"[[KilledMidSentence *Choke*]].
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* If someone ruins the plan by design, said plan is OutGambitted.



* If someone ruins the plan by design, said plan is OutGambitted.



* If you think you won, but actually did exactly what the other person wanted, you are an UnwittingPawn.
* If the person's own ''death'' was factored into a favorable outcome, then it's a ThanatosGambit - simply furthering the plot doesn't qualify you as one.

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UnwittingPawn - simply furthering the plot doesn't qualify you as one.
* If the person's own ''death'' was factored into a favorable outcome, then it's a ThanatosGambit - simply furthering the plot doesn't qualify you as one. ThanatosGambit.
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Named after the ultimate BigBad schemer, David Xanatos from ''{{Gargoyles}}''.
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