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* The Wiki/SCPFoundation has a parody of this with [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-7560-j SCP-7560-J]], a rant by a guy who is basically a cross between Francis Dec and Gene Ray.

* LightNovel/{{Baccano}}: Graham Spector's introspective tendencies as a TalkativeLoon turns into ambiguously-self-aware parody in particularly manic moments:

* ''Time Cube'' was a website by the late self-proclaimed Dr. Otis Eugene "Gene" Ray dedicated to a theory that time was cubic. Unfortunately, he spent more time incoherently attacking academia for realizing the website was the ramblings of a racist and possibly homophobic TalkativeLoon and railing against races interacting with each other, ''especially'' [[MalignedMixedMarriage mixed-race marriages]] and UsefulNotes/BarackObama being elected President of the United States, and the very concept of religions than attempting to explain his theory, and the website became famous for being paragraph after paragraph of [[BoldInflation rather creatively formatted]] and bigoted incoherent babble. Even actual attempts to explain it were thwarted by nonsense like "Belly-Button Logic Works. When Do Teenagers Die? Adults Eat Teenagers Alive, No Record Of Their Death" and "If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic corner days rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Earth, proving 4 Days, Not 1Day,1Self,1Earth or 1God that exists only as anti-side." The website registration expired after Ray's death, but it was mirrored in several places.

* ''Time Cube'' was a website by the late self-proclaimed Dr. Otis Eugene "Gene" Ray dedicated to a theory that time was cubic. Unfortunately, he spent more time incoherently attacking academia for realizing the website was the ramblings of a racist and possibly homophobic TalkativeLoon and railing against races interacting with each other, ''especially'' [[MalignedMixedMarriage mixed-race marriages]] and UsefulNotes/BarackObama being elected President of the United States, and the very concept of religions than attempting to explain his theory, and the website became famous for being paragraph after paragraph of rather creatively formatted and bigoted incoherent babble. Even actual attempts to explain it were thwarted by nonsense like "Belly-Button Logic Works. When Do Teenagers Die? Adults Eat Teenagers Alive, No Record Of Their Death" and "If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic corner days rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Earth, proving 4 Days, Not 1Day,1Self,1Earth or 1God that exists only as anti-side." The website registration expired after Ray's death, but it was mirrored in several places.

* ''Time Cube'' was a website by the late self-proclaimed Dr. Otis Eugene "Gene" Ray dedicated to a theory that time was cubic. Unfortunately, he spent more time incoherently attacking academia for realizing the website was the ramblings of a racist and possibly homophobic TalkativeLoon and railing against [[MalignedMixedMarriage miscegnation]] and religions than attempting to explain his theory, and the website became famous for being paragraph after paragraph of rather creatively formatted incoherent babble. Even actual attempts to explain it were thwarted by nonsense like "Belly-Button Logic Works. When Do Teenagers Die? Adults Eat Teenagers Alive, No Record Of Their Death" and "If you would acknowledge simple existing math proof that 4 harmonic corner days rotate simultaneously around squared equator and cubed Earth, proving 4 Days, Not 1Day,1Self,1Earth or 1God that exists only as anti-side." The website registration expired after Ray's death, but it was mirrored in several places.

-->Thus we act: and perhaps action itself is the Anatole's Curlicue of our era. It is high time to recognize that action, and action alone, will be the agent that transmutes the flowery barrier of unutterability into an arbitrary but sacred iota of purposefulness, which cannot help but penetrate into an otherwise nameless and universally spaghettified lack of meaning, which smears and beclouds the crab-lit hopes of half-beings begging for deliverance from their own private, yet strangely tuberculine mealstroms that begat, and begotten were from, a howling sea of ribosomal plagiarism.

* The writings of Francis E. Dec, even when you get past the insane diction, manages to be a crazy collection of tracts that maintain that we all live in a veritable WorldOfChaos. Without getting into the Slavic supremacist CulturalPosturing and the rampant racism and antisemitism ([[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Francis_E._Dec that's for]] Wiki/RationalWiki [[https://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/intro.htm and zer0]]), he says that an encyclopedia somehow mutated into a MasterComputer and became a GodEmperor that started oppressing the Polish and Slovene people for some reason, and that our brains are not actually in our bodies, but are housed in glass cities on the far side of the moon. ''Gangster Computer God Worldwide Secret Containment Policy'' in particular presents the spectacularly incoherent phrase "Computer God computerized brainthinking sealed robot operating arm surgery cabinet machine removal" as if it were a single word.

* "The Illusions of Alacrity" by one Y. Serm Clacoxia, quoted [[http://books.google.com/books?id=o8jzWF7rD6oC&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=y+serm+clacoxia&source=bl&ots=jPDb1xInes&sig=3LJv85c0ay--0K0ujfihAnnDVNE&hl=en&ei=4-ttTL7NCYbWtQPUoNy1Cw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=y%20serm%20clacoxia&f=false here]] in an essay by Douglas Hofstadter:

--> '''Karjam''': If you're an advocate for my philosophy on [[IceCreamKoan thoughts]], [[KnowNothingKnowItAll beliefs]], imagination and [[BelievingTheirOwnLies focus]], you may come across those who claim the philosophy being difficult or impossible to understand. [[BlatantLies Now, these people aren't saying this because it really is that difficult to understand.]] Far from it, actually. Rather, they're saying this because [[PsychologicalProjection they've rejected what should be obvious]]; they were trying to [[{{Hypocrite}}see meaning in what does not exist]], (In other words, [[BlameGame they're overthinking things.]])Such practices is usually a [[{{Hypocrite}} sign of a closed heart.]] Therefore, what out when it comes to dealing with them. How they react to being presented with sound, solid truths (which happen to be thoughts) depends on the nature of their [[YouKeepUsingThatWord closed hearts.]] The more closed their hearts are, the worst their reactions will be. As a quick note, simply stating that they're overthinking things (and explaining why they're doing it) [[BlatantLies is usually enough to counter such arguments.]] However, if they keep on insisting without providing sound, solid truths themselves (which happen to be thoughts),[[MoralMyopia what they're doing is arguing by assertion, a logical fallacy.]] In addition, do not give proofs and examples even when asked. Even if said proofs or examples happen to be completely solid and sound, that does not automatically mean those with the closed hearts would be convinced.

* The writings of Francis E. Dec, even when you get past the insane diction, manages to be a crazy collection of tracts that maintain that we all live in a veritable WorldOfChaos. Without getting into the Slavic supremacist CulturalPosturing and the rampant racism and antisemitism ([[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Francis_E._Dec that's for]] Wiki/RationalWiki [[https://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/intro.htm and zer0]]), he says that an encyclopedia somehow mutated into a MasterComputer and became a GodEmperor that started oppressing the Polish and Slovene people for some reason, and that our brains are not actually in our bodies, but are housed in glass cities on the far side of the moon.

* The writings of Francis E. Dec, even when you get past the insane diction, manages to be a crazy collection of tracts that maintain that we all live in a veritable WorldOfChaos. Without getting into the Slavic supremacist CulturalPosturing and the rampant racism and antisemitism ([[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Francis_E._Dec that's for]] Wiki/RationalWiki [[https://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/intro.htm and zer0]]), he says that a dictionary somehow mutated into a MasterComputer and became a GodEmperor that started oppressing the Polish and Slovene people for some reason, and that our brains are not actually in our bodies, but are housed in glass cities on the far side of the moon.

* The writings of Francis E. Dec, even when you get past the insane diction, manages to be a crazy collection of tracts that maintain that we all live in a veritable WorldOfChaos. Without getting into the Slavic supremacist CulturalPosturing ([[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Francis_E._Dec that's for]] Wiki/RationalWiki [[https://www.bentoandstarchky.com/dec/intro.htm and zer0]]) and the rampant racism and antisemitism, he says that a dictionary somehow mutated into a MasterComputer and became a GodEmperor that started oppressing the Polish and Slovene people for some reason, and that our brains are not actually in our bodies, but are housed in glass cities on the far side of the moon.

* The writings of Creator/FrancisEDec, even when you get past the insane diction, manages to be a crazy collection of tracts that maintain that we all live in a veritable WorldOfChaos. He says that our brains are not actually in our bodies, but are housed in glass cities on the far side of the moon.

* WesternAnimation/YellowSubmarine has instances like these:
-->'''John''': If I could come in, here, I think the theory put forward by Einstein...
-->'''Paul''' [singing to himself]: Einstein, Einstein, any any any old Einstein...

-->'''George''': Uh, John?

-->'''Ringo''': What for?

* ''Script/AHDotComTheSeries'' has some recurring characters based on forum trolls whose InsaneTrollLogic was complicated enough to reach this trope. For example, the idea that we should all return to the anarcho-capitalist state of the ancient Irish because public trees are on private land, or that all nuclear technology is a Jewish tribalist hoax and nuclear power plants are actually driven by people's uncles peeling potatoes inside them.

* In ''Webcomic/{{Sinfest}}'', [[http://www.sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=1645 Slick and Squigley, stoned.]]

--> '''Karjam''': If you're an advocate for my philosophy on [[IceCreamKoan thoughts]], [[KnowNothingKnowItAll beliefs]], [[MarySue imagination]] and [[BelievingTheirOwnLies focus]], you may come across those who claim the philosophy being difficult or impossible to understand. [[BlatantLies Now, these people aren't saying this because it really is that difficult to understand.]] Far from it, actually. Rather, they're saying this because [[PsychologicalProjection they've rejected what should be obvious]]; they were trying to [[{{Hypocrite}}see meaning in what does not exist]], (In other words, [[BlameGame they're overthinking things.]])Such practices is usually a [[{{Hypocrite}} sign of a closed heart.]] Therefore, what out when it comes to dealing with them. How they react to being presented with sound, solid truths (which happen to be thoughts) depends on the nature of their [[YouKeepUsingThatWord closed hearts.]] The more closed their hearts are, the worst their reactions will be. As a quick note, simply stating that they're overthinking things (and explaining why they're doing it) [[BlatantLies is usually enough to counter such arguments.]] However, if they keep on insisting without providing sound, solid truths themselves (which happen to be thoughts),[[MoralMyopia what they're doing is arguing by assertion, a logical fallacy.]] In addition, do not give proofs and examples even when asked. Even if said proofs or examples happen to be completely solid and sound, that does not automatically mean those with the closed hearts would be convinced.

* A lot of continental philosophy is accused of this. And pretty much everything post-modern.
** Martin Heidegger is perhaps the Philosopher with the most famously convoluted writing. For the sake of an example his definition of Existence in being and Time is "The Being of those beings who stand open for the openness of Being in which they stand, by standing it."

* In ''VideoGame/PokemonVietnameseCrystal'', a [[BlindIdiotTranslation very badly translated]] version of ''Pokemon Crystal Version'', some of the strange things that the NPC's say may be this trope. Here's a couple examples:

* In real life, a person's communicating with word salad type language could be a sign of a brain injury or of a psychiatric illness such as schizophrenia. Thus, as much as this trope might be PlayedForLaughs, it can be [[DudeNotFunny quite debilitating when it impairs a person's ability to communicate with friends and loved ones.]]

-->-- Music/{{REM}}, "Life and How to Live It"

* Music/{{REM}}'s "Life and How to Live it" is doubly this. Not only is the advice rather nonsensical, but it was inspired by a resident of Athens who built two apartments in his house (with him changing apartments as his moods changed) and self-published a rather incoherent and bigoted book of advice.

* Everything by [[Literature/TheElderScrollsInUniverseBooks Michael Kirkbride.]] ''Everything.''

* In Rabelais' ''GARGANTUA AND PANTAGRUEL'', Pantagruel offers to judge the lawsuit between Lord Kissbreech and Lord Suckfist, which has been going on for years because no one but the litigants has any idea what it is about. After each party gives his "case" in a prolonged stream of non-sequiturs and gibberish, Pantagruel gives "judgement" in another such --- and both litigants announced that they are completely satisfied, an outcome without precedent.

* In Rabelais' ''GARGANTUA AND PANTAGRUEL'', Pantagruel offers to judge the lawsuit between Lord Kiss___ and Lord Suckfist, which has been going on for years because no one but the litigants has any idea what it is about. After each party gives his "case" in a prolonged stream of non-sequiturs and gibberish, Pantagruel gives "judgement" in another such --- and both litigants announced that they are completely satisfied, an outcome without precedent.