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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he -- at times -- seems just a [[{{Pun}} half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.

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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda1'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he -- at times -- seems just a [[{{Pun}} half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.
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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.

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* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Yoda's force Force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Oddly, this subverts ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack'' is the very trope it names, as Luke TropeNamer. Luke, however, fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move lift his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; problem: Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by calmly raising the X-wing out of the water.water and gently setting it on (mostly) solid ground.

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->'''Luke Skywalker:''' All right, I'll give it a try.\\

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->'''Luke Skywalker:''' ''(watching his half-submerged X-wing sink fully into the swamp)'' Oh, no. We'll ''never'' get it out now!\\
'''Yoda:''' So certain are you? ''(sighs and shakes his head)'' Always with you it cannot be done. Hear you nothing that I say?\\
'''Luke:''' Master, moving stones around is one thing, but this is totally different!\\
'''Yoda:''' No! ''No'' different! Only different in your mind. You must unlearn what you have learned.\\
'''Luke:''' ''({{beat}})''
All right, I'll give it a try.\\
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-->'''Luke:''' ...I don't believe it!\\
'''Yoda:''' And that is why you fail.

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-->'''Luke:''' ...-->'''Luke:''' I...I don't believe it!\\
'''Yoda:''' And that That is why you fail.
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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."''
-->-- '''Yoda''', ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''

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->''"No! ->'''Luke Skywalker:''' All right, I'll give it a try.\\
'''Yoda:''' No!
Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."''
try.
-->-- '''Yoda''', ''Franchise/StarWars: Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''
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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he -- at times -- seems just a [[IncrediblyLamePun half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.

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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he -- at times -- seems just a [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.
* ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, army and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.
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* Zote the Mighty from ''VideoGame/HollowKnight'' incorporates this in his personal philosophy:
-->'''Zote:''' Precept Nineteen: 'If You Try, Succeed'. If you're going to attempt something, make sure you achieve it. If you do not succeed, then you have actually failed! Avoid this at all costs.
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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Toph's attitude to Aang whilst learning [[DishingOutDirt Earthbending]] is a definite "There is no try" attitude: "If you're not tough enough to stop the rock, then you could at least give it the pleasure of smooshing you instead of jumping out of the way like a jelly-boned wimp!!" This is because each of the bending discplines requires a particular quality in the bender, in this case stubborn, willful hard-headedness.

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* ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Toph's attitude to Aang whilst learning [[DishingOutDirt Earthbending]] is a definite "There is no try" attitude: "If you're not tough enough to stop the rock, then you could at least give it the pleasure of smooshing you instead of jumping out of the way like a jelly-boned wimp!!" This is because each of the bending discplines disciplines requires a particular quality in the bender, in this case stubborn, willful hard-headedness.
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* In Chapter 6 of ''Series/TheBookOfBobaFett'', Luke Skywalker is training Grogu, an infant of the same species as master Yoda. At one point, Grogu is having trouble using the Force to jump higher, so Luke tells him, "You're trying too hard. Don't try; do." A short time later, Grogu is doing a much better job of Force-jumping to evade low-powered blaster bolts from Luke's training remote.
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* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', Morpheus's "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" line he delivers while sparring with Neo.

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* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', Morpheus's "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" line he delivers while sparring with Neo. It's part of a lesson that Neo will learn by the end of the film that, because the Matrix isn't reality, some of its rules can be bent and others can be broken and, as a result, all it really takes to break past his limits is to ''believe'' that he can and "just trying" is a mental block that prevents him from doing so.
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* Yuthura Ban of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.

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* Yuthura Ban of ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' mentioned something that sounded like the dark side version of this; just another illustration of how Jedi and Sith are NotSoDifferent.aren't all that different.
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The keystone of TrainingFromHell and TheSpartanWay. Related to HitMeDammit and sometimes DontThinkFeel.

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The keystone of TrainingFromHell and TheSpartanWay. Related to HitMeDammit and sometimes DontThinkFeel.
DontThinkFeel. Compare NoMoreHoldingBackSpeech, in which the hero announces this about themselves to others.

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-->'''Soundbite''': ''I'll…'''try…''''' ''(DeathGlare)'' '''Quote Yoda''' ''AND DIE.''

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-->'''Soundbite''': ''I'll…'''try…''''' ''(DeathGlare)'' ''I'll... '''try...''''' ''[DeathGlare]'' '''Quote Yoda''' ''AND DIE.''



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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he - at times - seems just a [[strike:gallon]] [[IncrediblyLamePun half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.

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* Used by Master Shifu in ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'' when he finally figures out how to train Po. Makes sense, really, since he - -- at times - -- seems just a [[strike:gallon]] [[IncrediblyLamePun half-pint]] of green dye short of being Yoda.



* ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'':
-->'''Miyagi''': Now, ready?
-->'''Daniel''': Yeah, I guess so.
-->'''Miyagi''': Daniel-san, must talk. Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, ''(makes squish gesture)'' get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", ''(makes squish gesture)'' just like grape. Understand?
* In ''Film/KillBill Vol. 2'' Pai Mei tells Black Mamba, in response to her inability to punch through a thick board at close range, "It is the wood that should fear your hand, not the other way around! No wonder you can't do it; you acquiesce to defeat before you even begin."
* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', Morpheus's "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" line he delivered while sparring with Neo.
* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
-->'''Luke''': ...I don't believe it!
-->'''Yoda''': And that is why you fail.

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* ''Film/TheKarateKid1984'':
-->'''Miyagi''':
''Film/{{The Karate Kid|1984}}'':
-->'''Miyagi:'''
Now, ready?
-->'''Daniel''':
ready?\\
'''Daniel:'''
Yeah, I guess so.
-->'''Miyagi''':
so.\\
'''Miyagi:'''
Daniel-san, must talk. Walk on road, hm? Walk left side, safe. Walk right side, safe. Walk middle, sooner or later, ''(makes ''[makes squish gesture)'' gesture]'' get squish just like grape. Here, karate, same thing. Either you karate do "yes", or karate do "no". You karate do "guess so", ''(makes ''[makes squish gesture)'' gesture]'' just like grape. Understand?
* In ''Film/KillBill Vol. 2'' 2'', Pai Mei tells Black Mamba, in response to her inability to punch through a thick board at close range, "It is the wood that should fear your hand, not the other way around! No wonder you can't do it; you acquiesce to defeat before you even begin."
* In ''Film/TheMatrix'', Morpheus's "Stop trying to hit me and hit me!" line he delivered delivers while sparring with Neo.
* ''Franchise/StarWars'': Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
-->'''Luke''': ...-->'''Luke:''' ...I don't believe it!
-->'''Yoda''':
it!\\
'''Yoda:'''
And that is why you fail.



--> '''Jon:''' I can't command you to be brave, but I ''can'' command you to hide your fears. You said the words, Sam. Remember?
--> '''Sam:''' I... I'll try.
--> '''Jon:''' You won't try. You will obey.
* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'', Harry repeatedly tries and fails to summon a corporeal Patronus. He only gains the ability to do so [[spoiler:due to a StableTimeLoop; the first time around, he witnesses what he believes to be his father protecting him from Dementors with a corporeal Patronus. When he re-experiences the moment, he realizes his father isn't going to show up to save him, but realizes he was/is there and therefore ''can''. Dumbledore points out that he has thus discovered an element of his father inside himself. And having done it once, he can do it ''whenever he wants'' - For the rest of the series, he thus has access to an ability that usually qualifies one as an ''Auror''.]]

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--> '''Jon:''' -->'''Jon:''' I can't command you to be brave, but I ''can'' command you to hide your fears. You said the words, Sam. Remember?
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Remember?\\
'''Sam:''' I... I'll try.
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try.\\
'''Jon:''' You won't try. You will obey.
* In ''Literature/HarryPotterAndThePrisonerOfAzkaban'', Harry repeatedly tries and fails to summon a corporeal Patronus. He only gains the ability to do so [[spoiler:due to a StableTimeLoop; the first time around, he witnesses what he believes to be his father protecting him from Dementors with a corporeal Patronus. When he re-experiences the moment, he realizes his father isn't going to show up to save him, but realizes he was/is there and therefore ''can''. Dumbledore points out that he has thus discovered an element of his father inside himself. And having done it once, he can do it ''whenever he wants'' - For -- for the rest of the series, he thus has access to an ability that usually qualifies one as an ''Auror''.]]



-->'''Constance''': Every time you have a ''real'' itch, I get the wrong answer.
-->'''Sticky''': Sorry, I get itchy when I'm nervous. I'll try to do better.
-->'''Constance''': Don't just ''try''. ''Actually'' do better.
-->'''Sticky''': Hey, my fidgeting isn't the only problem, you know! It would help if you had practiced your Morse Code at ''all''!
-->'''Kate''': Now, children. Let's not quibble about who's to blame. Blaming is ''wrong''. The important thing is to get along with one another, so we may have better success ''cheating''.

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-->'''Constance''': -->'''Constance:''' Every time you have a ''real'' itch, I get the wrong answer.
-->'''Sticky''':
answer.\\
'''Sticky:'''
Sorry, I get itchy when I'm nervous. I'll try to do better.
-->'''Constance''':
better.\\
'''Constance:'''
Don't just ''try''. ''Actually'' do better.
-->'''Sticky''':
better.\\
'''Sticky:'''
Hey, my fidgeting isn't the only problem, you know! It would help if you had practiced your Morse Code at ''all''!
-->'''Kate''':
''all''!\\
'''Kate:'''
Now, children. Let's not quibble about who's to blame. Blaming is ''wrong''. The important thing is to get along with one another, so we may have better success ''cheating''.



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* Averted in the final episode of season 1 of ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' where Dylan demands of his XO Beka Valentine that 'All that matters in life is that you try, promise me you'll try.' as she confesses she isn't sure if she can make it to the overrun command center of the ship.

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* Averted in the final episode of season 1 of ''Series/{{Andromeda}}'' where Dylan demands of his XO Beka Valentine that 'All "All that matters in life is that you try, promise me you'll try.' " as she confesses she isn't sure if she can make it to the overrun command center of the ship.



-->'''Mandy:''' (''on the phone'') Look, I don’t want to hear you’re going to try, Bruce. This isn't gym class...I said, gym class. Gym class!...Bruce, Bruce! Cause it's important in gym to try, but it is not necessarily - look, Bruce, it was a simple metaphor.

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-->'''Mandy:''' (''on ''[on the phone'') phone]'' Look, I don’t don't want to hear you’re you're going to try, Bruce. This isn't gym class... I said, gym class. Gym class!... Bruce, Bruce! Cause it's important in gym to try, but it is not necessarily - -- look, Bruce, it was a simple metaphor.



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* From the ''{{WesternAnimation/Animaniacs}}'' episode "Taming of the Screwy".
-->'''Dr. Scratchansniff:''' Okay, I'll try.
-->'''Mr. Plotz:''' Trying is not good enough, Scratchansniff. '''DO IT!'''
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': Examines the trope when Kanan tells Ezra "Do or do not, there is no try!" and Ezra retorts that it makes no sense: "How can I ''do'' something if I don't ''try'' to do it?" Kanan admits he always had trouble with that one, too, but "Master Yoda sure used to say it a lot!" Later they come back to the mental hang-up explanation for the advice. Kanan will not ''try'' to teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi, he ''will'' teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi.
** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which is that she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.".

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* From the ''{{WesternAnimation/Animaniacs}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Animaniacs}}'' episode "Taming of the Screwy".
-->'''Dr. Scratchansniff:''' Okay, I'll try.
-->'''Mr.
try.\\
'''Mr.
Plotz:''' Trying is not good enough, Scratchansniff. '''DO IT!'''
* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': Examines ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'':
** It examines
the trope when Kanan tells Ezra "Do or do not, there is no try!" and Ezra retorts that it makes no sense: "How can I ''do'' something if I don't ''try'' to do it?" Kanan admits he always had trouble with that one, too, but "Master Yoda sure used to say it a lot!" Later they come back to the mental hang-up explanation for the advice. Kanan will not ''try'' to teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi, he ''will'' teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi.
** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which is that she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.". "
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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. [[TropeNamers There is no try]]."''

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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. [[TropeNamers There is no try]].try."''
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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. There is no try."''

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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. [[TropeNamers There is no try.try]]."''
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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.

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* ''Disney/{{Mulan}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Mulan}}'' has the titular character taking her father's place in the army, and failing miserably in training. After Shang essentially tells her she's too weak to make it, she becomes determined enough to do what no one else could. Retrieving the arrow atop a pole while wearing heavy weights around her wrists, from there her abilities are shown to be better than everyone else in the army. This also seems to inspire the rest of the trainees into TakingALevelInBadass.
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* Discussed in the pilot episode of ''Series/TheWestWing'':
-->'''Mandy:''' (''on the phone'') Look, I don’t want to hear you’re going to try, Bruce. This isn't gym class...I said, gym class. Gym class!...Bruce, Bruce! Cause it's important in gym to try, but it is not necessarily - look, Bruce, it was a simple metaphor.
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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': Examines the trope when Kanan tells Ezra "Do or do not, ThereIsNoTry!" and Ezra retorts that it makes no sense: "How can I ''do'' something if I don't ''try'' to do it?" Kanan admits he always had trouble with that one, too, but "Master Yoda sure used to say it a lot!" Later they come back to the mental hang-up explanation for the advice. Kanan will not ''try'' to teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi, he ''will'' teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi.

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* ''WesternAnimation/StarWarsRebels'': Examines the trope when Kanan tells Ezra "Do or do not, ThereIsNoTry!" there is no try!" and Ezra retorts that it makes no sense: "How can I ''do'' something if I don't ''try'' to do it?" Kanan admits he always had trouble with that one, too, but "Master Yoda sure used to say it a lot!" Later they come back to the mental hang-up explanation for the advice. Kanan will not ''try'' to teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi, he ''will'' teach Ezra the ways of the Jedi.

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* Everything Ichigo does, ever, in ''Manga/{{Bleach}}''.
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** An expected subversion in a ''ComicStrip/TheFarSide'' cartoon, with The Little Engine looking the worse for wear, leaning against a building with a beggar's hat in front of him, and a sign reading "I thought I could, I thought I could..."
* Richard of the Literature/SwordOfTruth is restricted to this to prevent him from being a total GameBreaker.

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* Peter Petrelli's training in ''[[{{Series.Heroes}} Heroes]]''.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack". Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.

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* Yoda's force training of Luke in ''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack".''Film/TheEmpireStrikesBack''. Oddly, this subverts the very trope it names, as Luke fails to rise to the occasion of using the Force to move his sunken X-wing out of a lake. This highlights the problem; Luke doesn't believe he can do it, and because he doesn't, he can't. He gives up until Yoda demonstrates how badass he is by raising the X-wing out of the water.
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->''"No! Try not. Do, or do not. [[TropeNamer There is no try.]]"''

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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which being she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.".

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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which being is that she doubts she can even wield it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.".
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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which being she doubts she can even wield it. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.".

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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is hesitant for a number of reasons, one of which being she doubts she can even wield it.it and only promises to try her hardest. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn.".
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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is very hesitant about it for a number of reasons. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn."

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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is very hesitant about it for a number of reasons.reasons, one of which being she doubts she can even wield it. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn."".
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** It later gets a CallBack when Sabine must learn how to use [[spoiler:the darksaber]] and is very hesitant about it for a number of reasons. Ezra's response is "Don't try, just learn."

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