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* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''ThePictureOfDorianGray''. It ends badly.
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* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''ThePictureOfDorianGray''.''Literature/ThePictureOfDorianGray''. It ends badly.
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* Stanley Ipkiss' unrestrained AlterEgo in ''Film/TheMask'', depending on the adaptation.
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* Stanley Ipkiss' unrestrained AlterEgo SuperpoweredAlterEgo in ''Film/TheMask'', depending on the adaptation.
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Zap}}'', Gunner Strife tried to be one of these to Zap while training him in the use of psychic powers. It worked up until Gunner told him to use his psychic powers to make Leona fall in love with him. Zap decided to block Gunner from telepathically contacting him instead. Gunnner [[ItGotWorse didn't take it very well]].
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Zap}}'', Gunner Strife tried to be one of these to Zap while training him in the use of psychic powers. It worked up until Gunner told him to use his psychic powers to make Leona fall in love with him. Zap decided to block Gunner from telepathically contacting him instead. Gunnner [[ItGotWorse Gunner didn't take it very well]].
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** *cough* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast *cough*
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* ''{{Bleach}}'' Bount arc. Maki Ichinose left the Soul Society in despair after his Captain was killed. While wandering he was almost killed by a hollow but was saved by Jin Kariya. Ichinose swore to follow Kariya and help him defeat the Soul Society. He eventually learned that Kariya planned to destroy the entire Soul Society and turned on him.
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* ''{{Bleach}}'' ''Manga/{{Bleach}}'' Bount arc. Maki Ichinose left the Soul Society in despair after his Captain was killed. While wandering he was almost killed by a hollow but was saved by Jin Kariya. Ichinose swore to follow Kariya and help him defeat the Soul Society. He eventually learned that Kariya planned to destroy the entire Soul Society and turned on him.
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* Barney really ''wants'' to be this to Ted on ''HowIMetYourMother''. Ted rarely listens.
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* Barney really ''wants'' to be this to Ted on ''HowIMetYourMother''.''Series/HowIMetYourMother''. Ted rarely listens.
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-->-- '''Tyler Durden''', ''FightClub''
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* Subverted in ''GreenArrow'' during [[FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft, he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a SinkOrSwimMentor when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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* Subverted in ''GreenArrow'' during [[FiftyTwo [[ComicBook/FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft, he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a SinkOrSwimMentor when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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* Robert Morse's character to Walter Matthau's in ''{{A Guide for the Married Man}}''.
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* Robert Morse's character to Walter Matthau's in ''{{A Guide for the Married Man}}''.''AGuideForTheMarriedMan''.
* Yunior from ''TheBriefWondrousLifeOfOscarWao'' tries to be this to Oscar, but fails miserably.
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* Yunior from ''TheBriefWondrousLifeOfOscarWao'' tries to be this to Oscar, but fails miserably.
* Dean Moriarty in ''{{On the Road}}'' is the first type, where the narrator eventually becomes disillusioned with this character. The ending portrays Dean as actually being rather pathetic.
* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''{{The Picture of Dorian Gray}}''. It ends badly.
* Dean Moriarty in ''{{On the Road}}'' is the first type, where the narrator eventually becomes disillusioned with this character. The ending portrays Dean as actually being rather pathetic.
* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''{{The Picture of Dorian Gray}}''. It ends badly.
* Dean Moriarty in ''OnTheRoad'' is the first type, where the narrator eventually becomes disillusioned with this character. The ending portrays Dean as actually being rather pathetic.
* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''ThePictureOfDorianGray''. It ends badly.
* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''ThePictureOfDorianGray''. It ends badly.
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* Parodied in ''TheFastShow'' 's Swiss Toni.
* Barney really ''wants'' to be this to Ted on ''HowIMetYourMother''. Ted rarely listens.
* Russell acts as one to an Amish boy on his Rumspringa in the ''RulesOfEngagement'' episode "Twice".
* Barney really ''wants'' to be this to Ted on ''HowIMetYourMother''. Ted rarely listens.
* Russell acts as one to an Amish boy on his Rumspringa in the ''RulesOfEngagement'' episode "Twice".
* Sam Adama from ''{{Caprica}}'' is this to his nephew Willie Adama.
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* Barney really ''wants'' to be this to Ted on ''HowIMetYourMother''. Ted rarely listens.
* Russell acts as one to an Amish boy on hisnephew Willie Adama.
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* The perfectly-respectable variant is used in ''OrderOfTheStick'' preceding Elan's literal [[TookALevelInBadass level in badass]]. The mentor in question is named Julio Scoundrél.
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* The perfectly-respectable variant is used in ''OrderOfTheStick'' ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' preceding Elan's literal [[TookALevelInBadass level in badass]]. The mentor in question is named Julio Scoundrél.
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** Tyler is an especially interesting example of this trope, as [[spoiler:he's not actually a real person, but rather a wish-fulfilling, [[SplitPersonality disassociated identity]] of the protagonist that does all of the things the protagonist ''wishes'' he could do]].
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* [[{{Caprica}} Sam Adama]] is this to his nephew [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Will Adama]]. Given Will ends up joining the military, it doesn't turn out quite the way it was intended.
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* [[{{Caprica}} Sam Adama]] is this to his nephew [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Will Adama]]. Given Will ends up joining the military, it doesn't turn out quite the way it was intended.
Willie Adama.
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* Parodied in ''[[VentureBros Venture Bros.]]'' by the character ''Henry Killinger''
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* Subverted in [[GreenArrow Green Arrow]] during [[FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft, he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a [[SinkOrSwimMentor Sink Or Swim Mentor]] when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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* Subverted in [[GreenArrow Green Arrow]] ''GreenArrow'' during [[FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft, he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a [[SinkOrSwimMentor Sink Or Swim Mentor]] SinkOrSwimMentor when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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* [[{{Caprica}} Sam Adama]] is this to his nephew [[BattlestarGalactica Will Adama]]. Given Will ends up joining the military, it doesn't turn out quite the way it was intended.
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* [[{{Caprica}} Sam Adama]] is this to his nephew [[BattlestarGalactica [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined Will Adama]]. Given Will ends up joining the military, it doesn't turn out quite the way it was intended.
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* In ''{{Zap}}'', Gunner Strife tried to be one of these to Zap while training him in the use of psychic powers. It worked up until Gunner told him to use his psychic powers to make Leona fall in love with him. Zap decided to block Gunner from telepathically contacting him instead. Gunnner [[ItGotWorse didn't take it very well]].
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* In ''{{Zap}}'', ''Webcomic/{{Zap}}'', Gunner Strife tried to be one of these to Zap while training him in the use of psychic powers. It worked up until Gunner told him to use his psychic powers to make Leona fall in love with him. Zap decided to block Gunner from telepathically contacting him instead. Gunnner [[ItGotWorse didn't take it very well]].
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* Tucker Max, despite [[CompletelyMissingThePoint despite every single thing he's ever said or done]], is seen as this by both his FanDumb AND his {{Hatedom}}.
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* Tully is this to George on ''BeingHuman'', but with added HoYay and {{Squick}}.
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* Subverted in [[GreenArrow Green Arrow]] during [[FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a [[SinkOrSwimMentor Sink Or Swim Mentor]] when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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* Subverted in [[GreenArrow Green Arrow]] during [[FiftyTwo DC Comics Missing Year]] when, feeling he's gone soft soft, he hires a literal sensi for Scoundrels to teach him and his family to fight dirty. He becomes a [[SinkOrSwimMentor Sink Or Swim Mentor]] when he recruits his former student to give Green Arrow a trial by fire.
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Really doesn\'t fit the type. He\'s not about teaching guys to be tough, he about teaching them how to relate to women.
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* The title character from ''{{Hitch}}'' is one of these as well, though relatively benign and only slightly screwed up.
** In his case he is a mentor for men who are trying to woo the type of woman they'd like to spend their lives with. He gets quite offended when someone tries to hire his services just to get a one night stand.
** In his case he is a mentor for men who are trying to woo the type of woman they'd like to spend their lives with. He gets quite offended when someone tries to hire his services just to get a one night stand.
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** *cough* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast *cough*
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* ''Literature/TheGame'' is based off of Neil Strauss attending seminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer And yes, the events of this book really happened.]]
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* ''Literature/TheGame'' is based off of Neil Strauss attending seminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer And yes, the events of this book really happened.]]
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* ''ChangingLanes'': Gavin's father-in-law and senior partner, Stephen Delano (played by Sydney Pollak.) Part of Gavin's CharacterDevelopment throughout the film is his realization that Delano is grooming him to become an AmoralAttorney, while getting Gavin to do the majority of the firm's dirty work.
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* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''{{The Picture of Dorian Grey}}''. It ends badly.
* Literature/TheGame is based of of Neil Strauss attending siminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclamier And yes the events of this book really happened.]]
* Literature/TheGame is based of of Neil Strauss attending siminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclamier And yes the events of this book really happened.]]
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* Lord Henry to the titular character in ''{{The Picture of Dorian Grey}}''.Gray}}''. It ends badly.
*Literature/TheGame ''Literature/TheGame'' is based of off of Neil Strauss attending siminars seminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclamier [[NotMakingThisUpDisclaimer And yes yes, the events of this book really happened.]]
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** actually, him choosing the miliatary makes a lot of sense. He was equally raised by his lawyer father and his mobster uncle. Take equal messure of "respecting the law" and "having a duty to bash your enemies heads in" and the army is pretty much what you got.
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** actually, him choosing the miliatary makes a lot of sense. He was equally raised by his lawyer father and his mobster uncle. Take equal messure of "respecting the law" and "having a duty to bash your enemies heads in" and the army is pretty much what you got.
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* This trope was initially named for Tyler Durden in ''FightClub'' who teaches the nameless protagonist to stop being so emasculated and to go FightClubbing as well as some other... matters.
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* Literature/TheGame is based of of Neil Strauss attending siminars on how to become a pickup artist. He eventually became one of the teachers himself. [[NotMakingThisUpDisclamier And yes the events of this book really happened.]]
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* Mystery and Neil Strauss built their real life careers on this sort of thing.
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* Mystery and Neil Strauss built their real life careers on this sort of thing. (See Literature)
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*The {{Hentai}} anime ''The God of Groping''.
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These guys also exist in real life, though they're usually not quite as psycho and probably are [[MoneyDearBoy financially motivated]].
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These guys also exist in real life, though they're usually not quite as psycho and probably are [[MoneyDearBoy financially motivated]].
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These guys also exist in real life, though they're usually not quite as psycho. Probably.
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These guys also exist in real life, though they're usually not quite as psycho. Probably.
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