History Main / NoSuchThingAsWizardJesus

* The corpse parts in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureSteelBallRun Part 7]] of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' are heavily implied to be that of Jesus. Despite ''utilizing'' the existing supernatural elements of the series, part of the reason the corpse serves as the goal of the Part is that its power is still on a whole different level and [[WrongContextMagic breaks several established rules]].

* ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'': Averted, given that Part 7 has [[spoiler: most of the characters and villains getting their Stand Ability from Jesus's dismembered remains. It turns out that the Stand abilities that come with the corpse parts are the result of Jesus's "wizard" powers remaining spiritually in the corpse parts. The powers will manifest differently in everyone who gets them, but once one person gets them all, they become impregnated with the corpse's head via Virgin Mary method, and will become a vessel for Jesus to be reformed inside their body and eventually make their way outside the vessel in a rather gruesome way. This, of course, will kill the vessel, due to the damage that forcing itself out the body will do. Since the corpse parts manifest as Stands to those who absorb them, it is a very subtle implication that Jesus had a Stand]].

* In the ''Literature/SecretHistories'' series, magic, super-science, aliens and other dimensions are real, but Jesus is treated as the real deal because, even with all those things, truly bringing someone back from death is impossible. When Mr. Stab (an immortal serial killer who was originally Jack the Ripper) seeks to pull a HeelFaceTurn after killing his latest female victim, he holds William, the Drood family librarian at knifepoint. Reasoning that the Droods, being the most powerful family on Earth both magically and technologically, will have the secrets by which he could resurrect his victims and atone for his crimes within their library, he demands to be told how to restore a dead person to life. William tells him that the best they can do is commune with a person's ghost or raise them as a zombie. Truly bringing them back from the grave? "Only one man could ever do that I think that we can definitely agree that you're not him!"

* The corpse parts in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureSteelBallRun Part 7]] of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' are heavily implied to be that of Jesus. Despite ''utilizing'' the existing supernatural elements of the series, part of the reason the corpse serves as the goal of the Part is that its power is still on a whole different level and [[OutsideContextMagic breaks several established rules]].

* The corpse parts in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureSteelBallRun Part 7]] of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' are heavily implied to be that of Jesus. Despite ''utilizing'' the existing supernatural elements of the series, part of the reason the corpse serves as the MacGuffin of the Part is that its power is still on a whole different level and [[OutsideContextMagic breaks several established rules]].

** {{ComicBook/Plastic Man}} once tried to convince a child that Santa was real by telling him the story of an adventure he shared with the Justice League. The kid becomes skeptical when Plas gives Saint Nick HeatVision, but both are flabbergasted when Santa flies by their window and uses said heat vision to write Merry Christmas in the snow. It's actually {{ComicBook/Martian Manhunter}} trolling them but as his flies off the ''real'' Santa is revealed to be watching.

* In the [[GenreBusting rather genre-busting]] ({{dungeon punk}} [[AlternateHistory alt-historical]] [[HistoricalFantasy fantasy]]) novel ''Inne Pieśni'' (''Other Songs'') by Polish writer Creator/JacekDukaj, mankind is ruled by a kind of {{sorcerous overlord}}s called "kratistoi" and it's widely accepted in-universe that Jesus was one of them. The catch is that the average ''kratistos'', regardless of birth, has enough ruthlessness and will to power to claw his or her way to the top, and it's seen in-universe as just the way the world works. Thus, the common view is that His doctrine of peace and forgiveness worked directly against Him, undermining any attempts at empire-building He might otherwise commence and ultimately resulting in His premature death, with a perenially notorious loony sect of "Christians" being all that came out of it.

* The corpse parts in [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureSteelBallRun Part 7]] of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' are heavily implied to be that of Jesus. Despite ''utilizing'' the existing supernatural elements of the series, part of the reason the corpse serves as the MacGuffin of the Part is that its power is still on a whole different level and breaks several established rules.

* Enel from ''Manga/OnePiece'' believes himself to be a PhysicalGod and has powers of divine thunder and apparent omniscience to back it up. However his title of "God" is really just a local term meaning "King" and several ordinary people have had it before him. His powers come from a Lightning Logia Devil Fruit - a very powerful one, but the series moves on to show many more that are just as strong. His ability to hear thoughts of anybody on Skypeia turns out to be a type of [[PsychicPowers Haki]], that other people in are also eventually shown to have. As the series has moved onto the New World section of the Grand Line, [[NormalFishInATinyPond Enel's power turned from a one of a kind threat that was defeated on a technicality, to an elite but not necessarily someone reaching the levels of Emperors and Admirals]].

* The Franchise/{{Nasuverse}} effectively goes with the interpretation that Jesus was ''both'' a wizard and divine in nature. Not only is the setting AllMythsAreTrue, with the likes of David and King Solomon having gained their blessings and powers from God in some form, those summonable as Servants include Saint Martha, who explicitly knew Jesus in life, witnessed his miracles, and had no doubt to his connection to God. Also, it's noted that the practitioner of the First True Magic was born the same year that Jesus was, heavily implying that they're one and the same and that the First True Magic is in fact the power to grant miracles given to him by virtue of being the Son of God, which is why no one else has ever manifested it since.

* Averted in the third ''VideoGame/GabrielKnight'' game.

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* {{Lampshaded}} [[BetterThanABareBulb naturally]] on ''WebComic/LeagueOfSuperRedundantHeroes'' when Keith mentioned that every god that's ever been worshiped is currently active as a Superhero except the ones that are still currently worshiped.

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* Subverting this trope (i.e. directly accusing Jesus of sorcery) dates to [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Word the earliest known all-out philosophical attack on Christianity]] written by a Roman named Celsus, who - amongst other criticisms of their religious philosophy - upbraids Christians for believing in a charlatan.
* Averted by the Real-life faith [[http://www.rael.org/ the Raelians]], who believe that Jesus and all other prophets were in fact human emissaries of the highly advanced race of aliens, the 'Elohim', who created humanity.
* In Ian Wilson's book [[http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-The-Evidence-Ian-Wilson/dp/0895262398 Jesus: The Evidence]], it is speculated that many of the miracles Jesus is said to have performed may have been accomplished by hypnosis (note that Wilson is arguing Jesus really was God, he just posits that ''some'' had natural causes).
* In 1920s Japan, the Takenouchi Documents claimed that all world religions are the result of their founders travelling to Japan to study its spirituality, then [[LiesToChildren creating simplified versions of it that are easier for their followers to understand]]. In particular, many of Jesus's miracles such as [[WalkOnWater walking on water]] and [[FakingTheDead (appearing to) die and come back to life]] were said to have been {{Secret Art}}s taught to him by {{ninja}}s.
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* In ''Franchise/DragonAge'', events that might be miracles occur on a couple of occasions, but there's always a [[MaybeMagicMaybeMundane possible mundane explanation for them]]. In keeping with the game's theme, it's always ultimately left up to the player to decide whether to believe the mundane or the miraculous explanation.

* Enel from ''Manga/OnePiece'' believes himself to be a PhysicalGod (and he actually holds the title of "God" on Skypiea, though that is more like their word for "King" and several ordinary people have had it before him); though he is unquestionably phenomenally powerful, one of the strongest characters in the series (in a world where there are people who can destroy whole islands with ease), he is actually just a guy who ate the Lightning Logia Devil Fruit, and is thus no different from the dozens of others who have gained superpowers from eating a Devil Fruit, though again his is undoubtedly one of the most impressive.

** On the other hand, Buddhism has been able to co-exist with theistic religions, usually by holding that while the gods exist, the gods themselves are on the same reincarnation cycle, being ones who are really close to Englightenment but got distracted to be gods.

* In ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', it is implied that Jesus was none other than the Immortal God-Emperor of Mankind, who was also Saint George and several other historical figures.

* In one episode of ''Series/{{Highlander}}'', a priest who discovers the Immortals also learns about the VillainOfTheWeek, who has a hobby of passing himself off as various gods, including in the present day, the Biblical one. But [=McLeod=] promptly assures the priest that the villain was born long after Jesus, and is the ''only'' immortal to have ever attempted this. Ever.

* In TheSecretHistory series, magic, super-science, aliens and other dimensions are real, but Jesus is treated as the real deal because, even with all those things, truly bringing someone back from death is impossible. When Mr. Stab (an immortal serial killer who was originally Jack the Ripper) seeks to pull a HeelFaceTurn after killing his latest female victim, he holds William, the Drood family librarian at knifepoint. Reasoning that the Droods, being the most powerful family on Earth both magically and technologically, will have the secrets by which he could resurrect his victims and atone for his crimes within their library, he demands to be told how to restore a dead person to life. William tells him that the best they can do is commune with a person's ghost or raise them as a zombie. Truly bringing them back from the grave? "Only one man could ever do that I think that we can definitely agree that you're not him!"

** The show has a weird twist on this trope in the form of [[spoiler: ArchangelGabriel going into hiding as [[Myth/NorseMythology the Trickster god Loki]]. Since pagan gods still exist and have some form of power in this universe, even though much of the major mythology the show is based on is Christian, it's unknown if Loki was always Gabriel in hiding or if Gabriel took over the role from the original Loki somehow]].

* {{Discussed|Trope}} in ''Literature/{{Everworld}},'' where devoutly Catholic April is TrappedInAnotherWorld where {{Physical God}}s from mythology walk around and scheme against each other. At one point she bitterly comments that these beings don't deserve to be called gods, even as she later goes through a crisis of faith, wondering if she trusts in them more than the Christian {{God}}. She also refuses to sacrifice to the Orisha who pester them on their trip through [[FantasyCounterpartCulture Everworld-Africa]]. One of her companions, Jalil, is [[FlatEarthAtheist an atheist]] who similarly refuses to worship Everworld's gods, but at one point argues with April, apparently seeing her beliefs as hypocritical.

* Creator/JohnCWright's ''Literature/WarOfTheDreaming'' has deities from a plethora of pantheons but Jesus is never mentioned even though there are angels, specifically Uriel/Apollo and Lucifer. It is however hinted that Oberon had a hand in writing the Bible, at least the Old Testament and Prometheus admits to being one of the angels mentioned as "laying with the daughters of men."

** Abrahamic religion very much gets this treatment; Eastern religion, however, not so much. We have Goau'ld for [[Myth/HinduMythology Nirti]], [[Myth/HinduMythology Kalim]], [[Myth/JapaneseMythology Ameterasu]], and [[Myth/ChineseMythology Yu]]. Moreover, Daniel Jackson outright says that Buddhism may be the result of Oma Desala helping humans to ascend when he first encounters her.
** They even handwave this one... they encounter a Goa'uld-run settlement that seems to follow medieval Christian rites (what with [[BurnTheWitch witch burning]] and stuff). Teal'c is quick to point out that unlike all the other ones, this particular Goa'uld can't be the original because a Goa'uld is "not capable of the acts of love and compassion depicted in the Bible". It ends up turning out the Goa'uld is impersonating ''{{Satan}}''.
** Its worth noting that the Goa'uld were driven away from Earth long before the time Jesus was supposed to have lived. However, the possibility that he was a human on the verge of [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Ascension]] (who have been shown to have strange powers) and then went all the way has never been addressed.

* We aren't shown what the effects of the [[BrokenMasquerade masquerade being unveiled]] on ''Series/DoctorWho'' have been on the world's religions, but one can only imagine what the effects would be if the Time Lord's [[BackFromTheDead regeneration powers]] would be if revealed. As it is, it's a little suspicious that none of the Doctor's many, many companions has ever brought up the similarities.

*** In the expanded universe, it's absolutely positive that there are beings from before our universe. The Guardians are among them (possibly the last surviving Time Lords from the previous universe), and even they have higher powers they defer to. If an Abrahamic creator God of this universe exists, he's less ultimate than the Guardians, and not that more powerful than mortals like Rassilon or the Council of Eight or the Doctor (who were all able to rewrite the fundamental rules of this universe's reality, which ought to be no easier than writing the original rules).

* Lampshaded, then subverted in ''Literature/OracleOfTao''. It is brought up the everyone can use magic so in theory Jesus shouldn't be any different from regular wizards. But Jesus is able to summon matter from nothing (largely against the rules of the universe, which outright creation being difficult or impossible, and creation of ''food'' even more so) and Jesus can heal without using runes and without the mystic power that other healers need. While other party members can also walk on snow, and protect themselves from the cold, Jesus appears to do it ''naturally.'' It tends to walk the line however, because while Jesus often seems to outright ignore the laws of physics in the universe, there are plenty of wizards that seem to be more powerful in other ways (Jesus doesn't really seem able to cast conventional spells).