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* SuetifulAllAlong: When it at first seems that a character has avoided being a Mary Sue, only to become or revealed to be one later.
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* MarySuetopia (for places instead of people): A place that is so perfect that it defies logic.
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* SympatheticSue: When TheWoobie is cranked UpToEleven, this Mary Sue's personality and backstory all carry the intention of making one feel bad for her.
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* SympatheticSue: When TheWoobie is cranked UpToEleven, up to the max, this Mary Sue's personality and backstory all carry the intention of making one feel bad for her.
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* LemonStu: Appearing in [[LemonFic lemon fics]], this is a Mary Sue who can and will sleep with anyone and everyone they want to, on top of being a SexGod.
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* LemonStu: Appearing in [[LemonFic lemon fics]], this is a Mary Sue (very often a MartyStu) who can and will sleep with anyone and everyone they want to, on top of being a SexGod.
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** SexFaceTurn: The MarySue is just so good at sex that the villain switches sides for her.
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* RedemptionEqualsSex: A plotline where a villain's redemption consists of having sex with the RelationshipSue.
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* PossessionSue: A canonical character-turned-AuthorAvatar.
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* PossessionSue: A canonical character-turned-AuthorAvatar.
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* ReformedRakes: The most common plotline for the RelationshipSue.
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* DreamSue: A character who dreams themself being perfect in every way.
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I'm not even sure what this is trying to get at. These two tropes are not related, and Men Act Women Are is absolutely in no way, shape, or form a Mary Sue Trope.
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** MenActWomenAre: a common consequence of this.
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* MarySueHunter: A character who hunts down Mary Sues in other fanfics to git rid of them.
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* MarySueHunter: A character who hunts down Mary Sues in other fanfics to git get rid of them.
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* TheAce: A character who is great at everything at highly respected for it.
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* TheAce: A character who is great at everything at and highly respected for it.
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**MenActWomenAre: a common consequence of this.
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* StockLightNovelHero: A character archetype that is frequently a Mary sue, but not all the time.
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* StockLightNovelHero: A character archetype that is frequently a Mary sue, Sue, but not all the time.
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* MarySue herself, [[CaptainObvious of course]].
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* MarySue herself, [[CaptainObvious of course]].herself.
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See also TheBeautifulTropes, TrappedInAnotherWorld, PrincessTropes, PurityPersonified, and RuleOfGlamorous.
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See also TheBeautifulTropes, TrappedInAnotherWorld, PrincessTropes, HaremGenre, PurityPersonified, and RuleOfGlamorous.
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See also TheBeautifulTropes, MagicalGirlTropes, PrincessTropes, PurityPersonified, and RuleOfGlamorous.
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See also TheBeautifulTropes, MagicalGirlTropes, TrappedInAnotherWorld, PrincessTropes, PurityPersonified, and RuleOfGlamorous.
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* AntiSue
AntiSue: A Mary Sue who has many "anti-Sue traits"--ugly, clumsy, untalented, etc--but is still a Mary Sue by other means, such as being worshipped by everyone or always succeeding without fail.
*BlackHoleSue
BlackHoleSue: Much like a black hole, this is a Mary Sue who "sucks in" the plot and characters to her. Characters will behave outside their personalities, logic will be defied, and rules will be broken for her sake.
*CanonSue
CanonSue: A Mary Sue who is a canonical character.
*CopyCatSue
CopyCatSue: A Mary Sue who is a carbon copy of the creator's favorite character (same abilities, same backstory, etc.)
*EinsteinSue
EinsteinSue: A Mary Sue who is amazingly smarter than others, even if said others are professionals and said Mary Sue is an everyday person.
*FixerSue
FixerSue: Within a FixFic, this is a Mary Sue who is more of a plot device than a person. Her main purpose is to railroad the plot and fix what the author originally didn't like.
*GodModeSue
GodModeSue: A Mary Sue who is so amazingly powerful that they can never be defeated.
*JerkSue
JerkSue: A Mary Sue who is mean or maybe even cruel, but are still treated as an ideal person.
*LemonStu
LemonStu: Appearing in [[LemonFic lemon fics]], this is a Mary Sue who can and will sleep with anyone and everyone they want to, on top of being a SexGod.
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* MarySueClassic
MarySueClassic: The classic embodiment of a Mary Sue--beautiful, can do no wrong, the object of everyone's affection, and probably able to fix every problem.
*MaryTzu
MaryTzu: A tactician Mary Sue, able to overcome every battle and war no matter if her side is outgunned and overpowered.
*NeutralitySue
NeutralitySue: Neutrality means that a Mary Sue can do whatever they want and get away with it.
*ParodySue
ParodySue: An intentional, PlayedForLaughs Mary Sue.
*PuritySue
PuritySue: Adorable, endearing to all, always positive, kind, and gentle, this Mary Sue's only flaws only make her more likable, like naivete or clumsiness.
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PossessionSue: A canonical character-turned-AuthorAvatar.
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RelationshipSue: A Mary Sue whose personality, arc, and traits all go towards being the perfect match for another character.
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SympatheticSue: When TheWoobie is cranked UpToEleven, this Mary Sue's personality and backstory all carry the intention of making one feel bad for her.
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VillainSue: An evil Mary Sue, typically either A) given a FreudianExcuse to dismiss their wrongdoings, or B) made so invincible that the heroes suffer personality and intelligence changes so that the villain can win.
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* HerCodeNameWasMarySue
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* SuperiorSpecies (for species instead of people)
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* HerCodeNameWasMarySue
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* ThirtySuePileup
ThirtySuePileup: A work features several kinds of Mary Sues.
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TheAce: A character who is great at everything at highly respected for it.
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Sue): A group, faction, or even county that is wildly successful in an alternate version of history.
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CanonDefilement: Fanfics tend to include whatever the author wants it to, but this is an AudienceReaction for when the artistic license goes a little ''too'' far.
* CantArgueWithElves (for ideologies instead ofpeople)
people): An entire race is presented as perfect, incapable of fault, and always right in an argument.
*CreatorsPet
CreatorsPet: A character who is loved by their creator but hated by the fans.
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DreamSue: When a character dreams of being perfect in every way.
*HerCodeNameWasMarySue
HerCodeNameWasMarySue: A character creates a MarySue character for their own wish fulfillment.
* HumansAreSpecial (For us[[note]]probably[[/note]] --humans)
humans): A work features several other species, but humans are shown as the more "special" race.
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HumanityIsAdvanced: When compared to other races (including aliens), humans are the most technologically advanced.
**HumanityIsSuperior
HumanityIsSuperior: Among other fictional races, humans are superior due to a special ability, history, etc.
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MarySueHunter: A character who hunts down Mary Sues in other fanfics to git rid of them.
* MarySuetopia (for places instead ofpeople)
people): A place that is so perfect that it defies logic.
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CopyCatSue): The setting of a work establishes a certain order or theme for characters. This can be teams, schools, special powers, etc.--whatever it is, it makes it easy to create a character that fits into that order or theme.
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SuetifulAllAlong: When it at first seems that a character has avoided being a Mary Sue, only to become or revealed to be one later.
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people): A species better than all other species in every thinkable way.
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FixFic: A fanfiction with the main purpose of changing aspects of the original canon the author didn't like, like the outcomes for their ships or a DownerEnding.
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SelfInsertFic: When the author (or a character who is practically a copy of said author) features in a fanfiction as a protagonist.
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