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* Also used in ''BlazBlue'' for [[spoiler:Litchi. The message is pretty subtle, but Hazama is pretty much saying to her "Join us, or you die by your own corruption while we just toss the cure away."]]

* In ''GrooshamGrange'', [[spoiler:every student at the Grange, sooner or later,]] is given this choice.

* "[[TheLegendOfZeldaCDiGames Join me, Link, and I will make yo face the greatest in Koridai.]] [[YoutubePoop Or else you will]] '''[[MemeticMutation DIE!!]]'''"

* In ''RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' the Sheriff of Nottingham gives Lord Locksley the choice to join up or die. Cue DyingMomentOfAwesome.
* ''SpaceMutiny'': Variant. Kalgan offers a technician who discovers his evil plot to either join or be cyrogenically frozen. The Techinican made the third choice of dying. Kalgan obliged.

-> ''"Are you sure? I won't make the offer twice. Join me now, or you WILL die."''
-->-- '''Tigerstar talking to Bramblepaw,''' '''Literature/WarriorCats'''

* The Crooked Rainbow in ''StationeryVoyagers'' is a gay terrorist organization, one which uses this philosophy to intimidate business owners and politicians into supporting homosexual causes. When the Voyagers themselves politely decline to get involved in said causes, wishing to focus on their primary mission of deflecting the Markerterion Empire from conquering more nations and worlds, said Voyagers soon learn that the Crookeds [[IfICantHaveYou don't take rejection very well]]. Neone is the first to spot danger in them, associating them with all the evil she witnessed on Neothode being done by [[CompleteMonster Astrabolo and Pentacko]]. She is soon followed by Pinkella, who was nearly murdered by her own gay brother. The others try not to see it right away, but [[NeutralNoLonger end up choosing a side in the culture war anyway after being attacked]].

** The Tau Empire are sometimes considered to be the "[[GoodIsNotNice nicest]]" faction in the setting, because they offer this choice. If anyone else attacks your world, chances are they just offer "[[AbsoluteXenophobe die]]" or in the case of [[CompleteMonster Chaos and Dark Eldar]], "die horribly, get captured and tortured and/or raped until you die, or get your soul devoured, and don't answer because we'll decide for you".

* The Crooked Rainbow in ''StationeryVoyagers'' is a gay terrorist organization, one which uses this philosophy to intimidate business owners and politicians into supporting homosexual causes. When the Voyagers themselves politely decline to get involved in said causes, wishing to focus on their primary mission of deflecting the Markerterion Empire from conquering more nations and worlds, said Voyagers soon learn that the Crookeds [[IfICan'tHaveYou don't take rejection very well]]. Neone is the first to spot danger in them, associating them with all the evil she witnessed on Neothode being done by [[CompleteMonster Astrabolo and Pentacko]]. She is soon followed by Pinkella, who was nearly murdered by her own gay brother. The others try not to see it right away, but [[NeutralNoLonger end up choosing a side in the culture war anyway after being attacked]].

[[IThoughtItMeant Not to be confused]] with [[Creator/BenjaminFranklin Ben Franklin]]'s famous [[TheAmericanRevolution Revolutionary-era]] PoliticalCartoon, which was closer in spirit to DividedWeFall.

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* In ''ASongOfIceAndFire,'' the wildlings give this offer to Jon Snow when he and his partner Qhorin Halfhand are captured. However, to make sure he's truly switched sides, they also force him to kill Qhorin.

** The Tau Empire are sometimes considered to be the 'nicest' faction in the setting, because they offer a choice. If anyone else attacks your world, joining isn't an option.

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* The Master makes the Vault Dweller such an offer in the original ''Fallout'' game. Accepting results in a non-standard game over.
-->'''The Master:''' So what shall it be? Do you join the Unity, or do you die here? Join! Die! Join! Die!

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-->-- '''Tigerstar talking to Bramblepaw,''' '''WarriorCats'''

The BigBad makes you AnOfferYouCantRefuse, either join his organization of evil, or die right here and now. Sometimes this is accompanied by a WeCanRuleTogether, but not always. This offer is not always made to TheHero, it can just as easily be to a rival, or simply a promising recruit that the BigBad can't afford to have opposing him. Nor does it necessarily have to be a villain making the offer. Some heroes may use these words to [[RousingSpeech rally people to their cause]] in the face of attack, or the {{MIB}} may give this ultimatum to those who [[BrokenMasquerade break the masquerade.]]

** That is, BrianBlessed taking out his sword, and bellowing a war cry that goes something like this:
-->'''Lord Locksley''': "GOOODD! And King Richard! YAAAAH!"

* ''DungeonsAndDragonsOnline'': In the finale of the Sharn Syndicate quest chain, Talon Darsin, the overlord of the Sharn Syndicate in Stormreach, makes this offer to you. And since your goal in the final quest is to kill him, well, no guesses on what your response to him is.

* In the movie ''{{Nikita}}'', and [[LaFemmeNikita the TV show based on the movie]], this is how the title character is recruited as an assassin.

* In ''LaFemmeNikita'', this is how the title character is recruited as an assassin.

A subtrope of WithUsOrAgainstUs. Compare SadisticChoice and AnOfferYouCantRefuse. Related to WhyDontYaJustShootHim?

* ''[[Warhammer40K Warhammer 40,000]]''