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* For those who don't find the videos to be SnarkBait or SoBadItsGood, a number of the infamous "[[YouAreGrounded X Gets Grounded]]" videos made in Website/GoAnimate can become this. All of the kids are constantly making everyone miserable ForTheEvulz, and the good guys often [[DisproportionateRetribution go above and beyond what anyone would deem necessary to teach them their lesson]], either by absurdly long grounding times at best, torture-laden or even fatal "[[HumiliationConga Punishment Days]]" at worst. Additionally, there's almost nothing the troublesome kids can do that will ''not'' end with them grounded [[ThrowTheDogABone outside of the rarest occasions]], not even if they do something nice or even heroic like prevent a disaster or crime. A lot of times the [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished good deed will just be outright overridden or ignored]], often for [[AssPull some random contrived reason]], just so the kids can get grounded. All the "good guys" have the potential to be [[{{Jerkass}} very mean]] to the troublemakers (sometimes even without justification) and some of them are just terrible people in general, but are [[DesignatedHero treated as heroes]] for putting the troublemakers in their place. "Baby show" characters like WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} that exist in the [[CrapsackWorld world that the videos take place in]] are [[FantasticRacism universally hated by the world]] simply for being baby show characters, and nothing they can do can change that. With everyone in the videos having some negative qualities about them, it's almost not worth rooting for anyone except Caillou and Dora, who at least manage to be [[JerkassWoobie Jerkass Woobies]] at best.

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* For those who don't find the videos to be SnarkBait or SoBadItsGood, a number of the infamous "[[YouAreGrounded X Gets Grounded]]" videos made in Website/GoAnimate can become this. All of the kids are constantly making everyone miserable ForTheEvulz, and the good guys often [[DisproportionateRetribution go above and beyond what anyone would deem necessary to teach them their lesson]], either by absurdly long grounding times at best, torture-laden or even fatal "[[HumiliationConga Punishment Days]]" at worst. Additionally, there's almost nothing the troublesome kids can do that will ''not'' end with them grounded [[ThrowTheDogABone outside of the rarest occasions]], not even if they do something nice or even heroic like prevent a disaster or crime. A lot of times the [[NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished good deed will just be outright overridden or ignored]], often for [[AssPull some random contrived reason]], just so the kids can get grounded. All the "good guys" have the potential to be [[{{Jerkass}} very mean]] to the troublemakers (sometimes even without justification) and some of them are just terrible people in general, but are [[DesignatedHero treated as heroes]] for putting the troublemakers in their place. "Baby show" characters like WesternAnimation/{{Caillou}} that exist in the [[CrapsackWorld world that the videos take place in]] are [[FantasticRacism universally hated by the world]] simply for being baby show characters, and nothing they can do can change that. With everyone in the videos having some negative qualities about them, it's almost not worth rooting for anyone except Caillou and Dora, who at least manage to be [[JerkassWoobie Jerkass Woobies]] at best.


** Additionally, Hunter's art looks like the typical version of the idea "humans fight back the supernatural" concept might convey - namely, the Hunters are artistically depicted as tough, powerful forces smashing down other supernaturals. Unfortunately, the actual power levels of the hunters was underwhelming, and the text itself read more akin to a CosmicHorror game where the typical Hunter has the lifespan of a mayfly. If the supernatural being itself didn't kill you, the forces of government would - and that government was of course backed by and infiltrated thoroughly by supernatural forces. Basically, Hunters would find not only could most supernaturals take them on, but they could also just call in the SWAT team, and it went as well as you expect. The premise of Hunter as a break from the grimdark of the World of Darkness never was realized.

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** *** Additionally, Hunter's art looks like the typical version of the idea "humans fight back the supernatural" concept might convey - namely, the Hunters are artistically depicted as tough, powerful forces smashing down other supernaturals. Unfortunately, the actual power levels of the hunters was underwhelming, and the text itself read more akin to a CosmicHorror game where the typical Hunter has the lifespan of a mayfly. If the supernatural being itself didn't kill you, the forces of government would - and that government was of course backed by and infiltrated thoroughly by supernatural forces. Basically, Hunters would find not only could most supernaturals take them on, but they could also just call in the SWAT team, and it went as well as you expect. The premise of Hunter as a break from the grimdark of the World of Darkness never was realized.

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** Additionally, Hunter's art looks like the typical version of the idea "humans fight back the supernatural" concept might convey - namely, the Hunters are artistically depicted as tough, powerful forces smashing down other supernaturals. Unfortunately, the actual power levels of the hunters was underwhelming, and the text itself read more akin to a CosmicHorror game where the typical Hunter has the lifespan of a mayfly. If the supernatural being itself didn't kill you, the forces of government would - and that government was of course backed by and infiltrated thoroughly by supernatural forces. Basically, Hunters would find not only could most supernaturals take them on, but they could also just call in the SWAT team, and it went as well as you expect. The premise of Hunter as a break from the grimdark of the World of Darkness never was realized.


* Some readers of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' fall into this state as it becomes obvious just how outmatched humanity is by the evils that assault it. The series is essentially a long chain of really bad things happening that directly result in even worse things happening. Things ''always'' [[FromBadToWorse get worse]]. In the end, though, [[spoiler:[[SurprisinglyHappyEnding humanity does manage to survive the impending apocalypse and even take down the entity responsible for it--in large part because of how large-scale the entity is, and how unprepared it is to deal with concepts such as loss or grief]]]]. As a general note, newcomers can have a hard time having any ''fun'' reading a series that's full of characters that do horrible and horrifying things on both sides. The protagonist, for example, starts off a bullying victim who experiences AdultsAreUseless, accidentally joins a gang, and, before long, finds herself committing theft, kidnapping, assault and even having to kill people in self defense. And she's one of the nicer characters.

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* Some readers of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' (and all Creator/{{Wildbow}}'s stories) can certainly fall into this state state. Things ''always'' [[FromBadToWorse get worse]], as it becomes obvious just how outmatched humanity is by the evils that assault it. The series is essentially a long chain of really bad things happening that directly result in even worse things happening. Things ''always'' [[FromBadToWorse get worse]]. In the end, though, [[spoiler:[[SurprisinglyHappyEnding humanity does manage to survive the impending apocalypse and even take down the entity responsible for it--in large part because of how large-scale the entity is, and how unprepared it is to deal with concepts such as loss or grief]]]]. As a general note, newcomers it can be tough to have a hard time having any ''fun'' reading a series that's full of characters that do horrible and horrifying things on both sides. sides, and the constant [[AnyoneCanDie deaths]] and straight up NightmareFuel gets too much for many readers. The protagonist, for example, starts off a bullying victim who experiences AdultsAreUseless, accidentally joins a gang, and, before long, finds herself committing theft, kidnapping, assault and even having to kill people in self defense.killing people. And she's one of the nicer characters. In the end, though, [[spoiler:[[SurprisinglyHappyEnding humanity does manage to survive the impending apocalypse and even take down the entity responsible for it.]] Of course it says something about the series that several billion people dying is consider a positive note to end on because humanity isn't literally extinct. The SequelSeries ''Literature/{{Ward}}'' goes to show that it's still absolutely a CrapsackWorld]].


->''"[[CrapsackWorld Ruined World]] + [[WorldOfJerkass cast of Jerk]] = [[EightDeadlyWords I don't care what happens to these guys]]"''

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->''"[[CrapsackWorld Ruined World]] ->''"Ruined World + [[WorldOfJerkass cast of Jerk]] Jerk = [[EightDeadlyWords I don't care what happens to these guys]]"''guys"''


->''"Ruined World + cast of Jerk = I don't care what happens to these guys"''

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->''"Ruined World ->''"[[CrapsackWorld Ruined World]] + [[WorldOfJerkass cast of Jerk Jerk]] = [[EightDeadlyWords I don't care what happens to these guys"''guys]]"''


* Some readers of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' fall into this state as it becomes obvious just how outmatched humanity is by the evils that assault it. The series is essentially a long chain of really bad things happening that directly result in even worse things happening. Things ''always'' [[FromBadToWorse get worse]]. In the end, though, [[spoiler:[[SurprisinglyHappyEnding humanity does manage to survive the impending apocalypse and even take down the entity responsible for it--in large part because of how large-scale the entity is, and how unprepared it is to deal with concepts such as loss or grief]]]]. As a general note, newcomers can have a hard time having any ''fun'' reading a series that's full of characters that do horrible and horrifying things on both sides. The protagonist, for example, starts off a bullying victim who experiences AdultsAreUseless, accidentally joins a gang, and, before long, finds herself committing torture, kidnapping, and murder without blinking. And she's one of the nicer characters.

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* Some readers of ''Literature/{{Worm}}'' fall into this state as it becomes obvious just how outmatched humanity is by the evils that assault it. The series is essentially a long chain of really bad things happening that directly result in even worse things happening. Things ''always'' [[FromBadToWorse get worse]]. In the end, though, [[spoiler:[[SurprisinglyHappyEnding humanity does manage to survive the impending apocalypse and even take down the entity responsible for it--in large part because of how large-scale the entity is, and how unprepared it is to deal with concepts such as loss or grief]]]]. As a general note, newcomers can have a hard time having any ''fun'' reading a series that's full of characters that do horrible and horrifying things on both sides. The protagonist, for example, starts off a bullying victim who experiences AdultsAreUseless, accidentally joins a gang, and, before long, finds herself committing torture, theft, kidnapping, assault and murder without blinking.even having to kill people in self defense. And she's one of the nicer characters.


* ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'': Every time something happens in the comic, more tragedy will result than happiness. The author himself seems to have noticed this, since he's started killing off characters less often, though some may still be turned off regardless.

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* ''Webcomic/{{Goblins}}'': Every time something happens in the comic, more tragedy will result than happiness. The author himself herself seems to have noticed this, since he's she's started killing off characters less often, though some may still be turned off regardless.


* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' has gotten progressively darker and grimmer since the end of Volume 3, with beloved characters being murdered or otherwise maimed or traumatized, and the political situation of Remnant becoming more and more reminiscent of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. The most recently Volume ends on a cliffhanger [[spoiler: with BigGood Ozpin knocked completely off his pedestal, the ArtifactOfDoom in the bad guys' hands, WellIntentionedExtremist James Ironwood about to abandon the rest of the human race to save his own kingdom, and BigBad Salem literally at his doorstep with an army of monsters.]] Some have praised the DarkerAndEdgier direction, while others miss when it was a light-hearted action series about cute girls punching monsters - and they often point to the untimely death of its creator Creator/MontyOum as the point where things began to go downhill.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' has gotten progressively darker and grimmer since the end of Volume 3, with beloved characters being murdered or otherwise maimed or traumatized, and the political situation of Remnant becoming more and more reminiscent of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. The most recently recent Volume ends on a cliffhanger [[spoiler: with BigGood Ozpin knocked completely off his pedestal, the ArtifactOfDoom in the bad guys' hands, WellIntentionedExtremist James Ironwood about to abandon the rest of the human race to save his own kingdom, and BigBad Salem literally at his doorstep with an army of monsters.]] Some have praised the DarkerAndEdgier direction, while others miss when it was a light-hearted action series about cute girls punching monsters - and they often point to the untimely death of its creator Creator/MontyOum as the point where things began to go downhill.


* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' has gotten progressively darker and grimmer since the end of Volume 3, with beloved characters being murdered or otherwise maimed or traumatized, and the political situation of Remnant becoming more and more reminiscent of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. The most recently Volume ends on a cliffhanger [[spoiler: with BigGood Ozpin knocked completely off his pedestal, the ArtifactOfDoom in the bad guys' hands, WellIntentionedExtremist James Ironwood about to abandon the rest of the human race to save his own kingdom, and BigBad Salem literally at his doorstep with an army of monsters.]] Some have praised the DarkerAndEdgier direction, while others believe the show's quality has suffered without the presence of [[Creator/MontyOum its creator]].

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' has gotten progressively darker and grimmer since the end of Volume 3, with beloved characters being murdered or otherwise maimed or traumatized, and the political situation of Remnant becoming more and more reminiscent of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. The most recently Volume ends on a cliffhanger [[spoiler: with BigGood Ozpin knocked completely off his pedestal, the ArtifactOfDoom in the bad guys' hands, WellIntentionedExtremist James Ironwood about to abandon the rest of the human race to save his own kingdom, and BigBad Salem literally at his doorstep with an army of monsters.]] Some have praised the DarkerAndEdgier direction, while others believe miss when it was a light-hearted action series about cute girls punching monsters - and they often point to the show's quality has suffered without untimely death of its creator Creator/MontyOum as the presence of [[Creator/MontyOum its creator]].point where things began to go downhill.

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* ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'' has gotten progressively darker and grimmer since the end of Volume 3, with beloved characters being murdered or otherwise maimed or traumatized, and the political situation of Remnant becoming more and more reminiscent of ''Series/GameOfThrones''. The most recently Volume ends on a cliffhanger [[spoiler: with BigGood Ozpin knocked completely off his pedestal, the ArtifactOfDoom in the bad guys' hands, WellIntentionedExtremist James Ironwood about to abandon the rest of the human race to save his own kingdom, and BigBad Salem literally at his doorstep with an army of monsters.]] Some have praised the DarkerAndEdgier direction, while others believe the show's quality has suffered without the presence of [[Creator/MontyOum its creator]].

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* ''TabletopGame/WitchGirlsAdventures'' hits this hard. The titular witch girls have no sense of right and wrong and are perfectly fine with [[ImAHumanitarian turning people into food and eating them]] or [[AndIMustScream turning them into still-aware inaminate objects]] for the pettiest reasons. Their opponents, the Malleus Maleficarum, are so consumed with anti-witch hatred that they will kill any witch they see-even if said witch ''isn't'' using her power for selfish purposes.

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* ''VisualNovel/ShinraiBrokenBeyondDespair'', [[AvertedTrope which otherwise doesn't qualify]], has an InUniverse example with the horror movie the characters watch at their Halloween party. Raiko, the PlayerCharacter and the narrator, considers all the characters to be so unlikeable that she doesn't care what happens to them.


* The Tokusatsu parody ''Gun Caliber'' written and directed by the Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/user/garageprotv/ Garage Hero]] takes place in an alternate Japan where [[spoiler: Superheroes have gone the way of celebrities and have become so insufferably corrupt that the government now regulates them using a ratings system. Heroes are now treated as [[AllOftheOtherReindeer national pariahs]] because of this and [[HeroWithBadPublicity are all but underground]]]]. The story attempts to hammer home the fact that the protagonist is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but at no point does he display any of the positive qualities that make up a hero; instead coming off as a insufferable HeroicComedicSociopath who despite having a DarkAndTroubledPast that [[JerkJustifications explains their lethargy]], does utterly nothing but go on [[ADateWithRosiePalms many dates with Rosie Palms]] and [[HatesEveryoneEqually hate everything and everybody else around him the rest of the time]]. What doesn't help is that ''eight of the thirteen episodes'' of this series are dedicated not to world-building, (Though it is there) but to how unrepentant this [[NominalHero supposed hero]] and his setting is.[[note]] Episode 5 literally has him and three Sentai Expies [[DisproportionateRetribution haze a high-schooler that calls him and his cohorts out for ranting drunkenly in a public study area]]. Other [[SarcasmMode lovely feats]] also include him interrupting a reporter while drunk and tricking a DamselInDistress into giving him a blowjob.[[/note]] By the time Gun Caliber displays any redeeming qualities, the miniseries is basically over and it's too little too late. What doesn't help is that the setting is a CrapsackWorld inhabited by [[JerkAss Jerkasses]], [[EverybodyHasLotsofSex Overly-horny fools]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs variations of both]]; and the two sole exceptions to this rule have a combined total of eight lines, tops. The show's attempts to send a ScrewDestiny message end up lost amid the sex jokes, stereotypes, unwavering cynicism, and utter lack of conflict. It seems like it's trying its best to be a ''Franchise/KamenRider'' parody in the same vein that ''Series/HikoninSentaiAkibaranger'' is to ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', but instead of actually parodying the source material, it puts [[UpToEleven way too much focus]] on the "mature" alcoholic sex humor. As a result, ''Gun Caliber'' comes off as a miserable, bleak, depressing mess with a few [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking amazingly-shot combat segments and nice cinematography]].

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* The Tokusatsu parody ''Gun Caliber'' written and directed by the Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/user/garageprotv/ Garage Hero]] takes place in an alternate Japan where [[spoiler: Superheroes have gone the way of celebrities and have become so insufferably corrupt that the government now regulates them using a ratings system. Heroes are now treated as [[AllOftheOtherReindeer national pariahs]] because of this and [[HeroWithBadPublicity are all but underground]]]]. The story attempts to hammer home the fact that the protagonist is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but at no point does he display any of the positive qualities that make up a hero; instead coming off as a insufferable HeroicComedicSociopath who despite having a DarkAndTroubledPast that [[JerkJustifications [[FreudianExcuse explains their lethargy]], does utterly nothing but go on [[ADateWithRosiePalms many dates with Rosie Palms]] and [[HatesEveryoneEqually hate everything and everybody else around him the rest of the time]]. What doesn't help is that ''eight of the thirteen episodes'' of this series are dedicated not to world-building, (Though it is there) but to how unrepentant this [[NominalHero supposed hero]] and his setting is.[[note]] Episode 5 literally has him and three Sentai Expies [[DisproportionateRetribution haze a high-schooler that calls him and his cohorts out for ranting drunkenly in a public study area]]. Other [[SarcasmMode lovely feats]] also include him interrupting a reporter while drunk and tricking a DamselInDistress into giving him a blowjob.[[/note]] By the time Gun Caliber displays any redeeming qualities, the miniseries is basically over and it's too little too late. What doesn't help is that the setting is a CrapsackWorld inhabited by [[JerkAss Jerkasses]], [[EverybodyHasLotsofSex Overly-horny fools]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs variations of both]]; and the two sole exceptions to this rule have a combined total of eight lines, tops. The show's attempts to send a ScrewDestiny message end up lost amid the sex jokes, stereotypes, unwavering cynicism, and utter lack of conflict. It seems like it's trying its best to be a ''Franchise/KamenRider'' parody in the same vein that ''Series/HikoninSentaiAkibaranger'' is to ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', but instead of actually parodying the source material, it puts [[UpToEleven way too much focus]] on the "mature" alcoholic sex humor. As a result, ''Gun Caliber'' comes off as a miserable, bleak, depressing mess with a few [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking amazingly-shot combat segments and nice cinematography]].


* ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'': With the revelations in the last two Horizon adventure packs that the only four major factions (the Draco Foundation, the Great Dragon Hestaby, Buttercup, and Horizon) that could still be said to be in any way "good" (or even anti-heroic) are really as expedient and guilty of atrocity and terror as the rest, and only differ in the nature and scope of their self-rationalizations but are as mired in the basest of motivations as every other setting villain, some fans believe that the ''Shadowrun'' universe has finally hit this threshold.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'': With the revelations in the last two Horizon adventure packs of 4th edition that the only four major factions (the Draco Foundation, the Great Dragon Hestaby, Buttercup, and Horizon) that could still be said to be in any way "good" (or even anti-heroic) are really as expedient and guilty of atrocity and terror as the rest, and only differ in the nature and scope of their self-rationalizations but are as mired in the basest of motivations as every other setting villain, some fans believe that the ''Shadowrun'' universe has finally hit this threshold.



** The most recent Edition zig-zags with this. On the one hand, the writers have tried to showcase shadowrunners as more morally varied and some things to suck less... [[spoiler:on the other hand, it's starting to become a full-on Lovecraft-style CosmicHorrorStory]].

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** The most recent 5th Edition zig-zags with this. On the one hand, the writers have tried to showcase shadowrunners as more morally varied and some things to suck less... [[spoiler:on the other hand, it's starting to become a full-on Lovecraft-style CosmicHorrorStory]].

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