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If Satellite Love Interest is on here, then so should Demoted To Satellite Love Interest. And since many examples of Franchise Original Sin explain why something is bad in the new works, it’s a symptom of bad writing, and this index is for tropes that are usually symptoms of bad writing.
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* DemotedToSatelliteLoveInterest: Don’t let a well-developed character devolve into someone who only exists to be a good romantic partner.
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* FranchiseOriginalSin: Don’t let something present in older works lose what made it good or acceptable in new installments.
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* HardToAdaptWork: A big reason why bad writing can occur despite competence, experience, and passion for a work.
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* HardToAdaptWork: CommonMarySueTraits: A big reason why bad writing can occur despite competence, experience, few of these aren't necessarily bad, and passion don't necessarily make for a work.MarySue (or a MartyStu), but the more of these there are, the harder it is for the audience to take the character(s) and story seriously, unless handled ''extremely'' delicately.
* CreatorsApathy: When the creators themselves admit they weren't even making an effort.
* CreatorsApathy: When the creators themselves admit they weren't even making an effort.
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* ProtectionFromEditors: [[NotSoDifferent A common cause of bad writing.]]
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* ProtectionFromEditors: [[NotSoDifferent HardToAdaptWork: A common cause of big reason why bad writing.]]writing can occur despite competence, experience, and passion for a work.
* IndExMachina: No explanation, no foreshadowing, no problem, apparently.
* IndExMachina: No explanation, no foreshadowing, no problem, apparently.
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* IndExMachina: No explanation, no foreshadowing, no problem, apparently.
* ScrappyIndex: Tropes in a particular work that have a {{hatedom}} such as TheScrappy, MarySue, and CharacterDerailment.
* ScrappyIndex: Tropes in a particular work that have a {{hatedom}} such as TheScrappy, MarySue, and CharacterDerailment.
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* CreatorsApathy: When the creators themselves admit they weren't even making an effort.
* CommonMarySueTraits: A few of these aren't necessarily bad, and don't necessarily make for a MarySue (or a MartyStu), but the more of these there are, the harder it is for the audience to take the character(s) and story seriously, unless handled ''extremely'' delicately.
* CommonMarySueTraits: A few of these aren't necessarily bad, and don't necessarily make for a MarySue (or a MartyStu), but the more of these there are, the harder it is for the audience to take the character(s) and story seriously, unless handled ''extremely'' delicately.
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* CreatorsApathy: When the creators themselves admit they weren't even making an effort.
* CommonMarySueTraits:ProtectionFromEditors: [[NotSoDifferent A few common cause of these aren't necessarily bad, bad writing.]]
* ScrappyIndex: Tropes in a particular work that have a {{hatedom}} such as TheScrappy, MarySue, anddon't necessarily make for a MarySue (or a MartyStu), but the more of these there are, the harder it is for the audience to take the character(s) and story seriously, unless handled ''extremely'' delicately. CharacterDerailment.
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* ScrappyIndex: Tropes in a particular work that have a {{hatedom}} such as TheScrappy, MarySue, and
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it]].
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it]].
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More fitting, less accusative.
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* PolishTheTurd: How creators and executives get away with selling bad products.
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* PolishTheTurd: How What the creators and executives get away have to work with selling is so bad products.no amount of good writing can salvage it.
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Creator response is irrelevant to this trope.
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] and everyone involved in making it doubles down [[CantTakeCriticism on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] and everyone involved in making it doubles down [[CantTakeCriticism on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
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Forcing player to spend point on INT despite playing a warrior or get stuck actually sound much worse.
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* DumpStat: It’s better not to have a stat than a useless one.
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Chained Sinkhole.
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] [[NeverMyFault and everyone involved in making it doubles down]] [[CantTakeCriticism on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] [[NeverMyFault and everyone involved in making it doubles down]] down [[CantTakeCriticism on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
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Troubled Production does not usually lead to a bad work. It's possible for a work to be have a stable development cycle and still get negatively received. Also, unexpected reactions can be received positively if done correctly. Empty Levels can happen, but only via bad luck.
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* TroubledProduction: When outside factors interfere too much in the creation of a work.
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* UnexpectedReactionsToThisIndex: A trope causes a reaction... but not the one you want.
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* EmptyLevels: There should be a point to leveling up if you include the feature in your game.
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Darth Wiki and Sugar Wiki do not go on main or YMMV pages.
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] [[NeverMyFault and everyone involved in making it doubles down on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
* SoBadItsHorrible: What a work becomes when it’s comprised of ONLY the tropes found on this list.
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* SnarkBait: What a work becomes when [[EpicFail too many tropes from this list appear in it,]] [[NeverMyFault and everyone involved in making it doubles down down]] [[CantTakeCriticism on how awesome the work is.]] Bonus points [[DearNegativeReader if the fans are blamed for not liking it.]]
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* PolishTheTurd: How creators and executives get away with selling bad products.
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* EmptyLevels: There should be a point to leveling up if you include the feature in your game.
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* ForcedLevelGrinding: Players shouldn’t have to stop playing a game just to level up.
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* UselessUsefulSpell/UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities/UselessUsefulStealth: Don’t include game features that don’t work.
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* UselessUsefulSpell/UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities/UselessUsefulStealth: UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities: Don’t include game features that don’t work.
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* BonusFeatureFailure: Make sure any rewards you include in your game are actually worth using.
* DumpStat: It’s better not to have a stat than a useless one.
* FakeLongevity: A short game isn’t necessarily bad, and a long game isn’t necessarily good.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading: Players shouldn’t have to spend more time staring at a loading screen than actually playing your game.
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* UselessUsefulSpell/UselessUsefulNonCombatAbilities/UselessUsefulStealth: Don’t include game features that don’t work.
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* HardToAdaptWork: a big reason why bad writing can occur despite competence, experience, and passion for a work.
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* HardToAdaptWork: a A big reason why bad writing can occur despite competence, experience, and passion for a work.
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* ArmedWithCanon: If you have a beef with another creator, remember that a story’s characters are not your pawns and its universe is not a battlefield.
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Please read the trope before add it here. First, you tell the reader to does exactly what's that trope. Second, it isn't absolte ruls.
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* ShowDontTell: Remember, you’re writing a story, not a news article. Entertain your audience, don’t inform them.
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* ShowDontTell: Remember, you’re writing a story, not a news article. Entertain your audience, don’t inform them.
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Like Flat Character, not innately bad as deep/detailed aren’t necessarily to what the work is trying to do.
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* ExcusePlot: The plot is more than just an excuse for cool thing to happen, remember that.
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* UnfortunateImplications: While AudienceReactions are not tropes and thus cannot be discredited, ''countless'' tropes have become discredited for carrying Unfortunate Implications.
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* OscarBait: Your work should be more than just a checklist of tropes that are in currently vogue at the Academy Awards or any other prestigious organization.
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* OscarBait: Your work should be more than just a checklist of tropes that are in currently vogue at the Academy Awards or any other prestigious organization.organization that awards prizes.
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* GameBreakingBug: While not completly avoidable, don't let a glitch cripple the playability of your game.
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* FakeDifficulty: While there are intentional examples, there are often too many unintentional examples that detract from the playing experience, so don't try to make your game artificially difficult unless you're making a game that is UnwinnableByDesign or a [[UnwinnableJokeGame Joke Game]] or something like that.
* GameBreakingBug: While notcompletly completely avoidable, don't let a glitch cripple the playability of your game.
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: Telling the reader what a character is feeling, instead of showing it, is lazy. Doubly so if you make an incongrous description, and moreso if you do this in the speech tag.
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* ThatMakesMeFeelAngry: Telling the reader what a character is feeling, instead of showing it, is lazy. Doubly so if you make an incongrous incongruous description, and moreso if you do this in the speech tag.
