History Main / BadIsGoodAndGoodIsBad

* ''Literature/TheBible'': Isaiah 5:20 has "woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter", making this OlderThanFeudalism.

* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has a mild example in the world of the First, which was 9/10ths oblierated by [[LightIsNotGood a Flood of Light]] (which was accidentally caused by some would-be heros) and the remaining areas have been plagued by EndlessDaytime, and swarms of angelic-looking murderous Sin-Eaters for more than 100 years since. The inhaibtants are therefore a little jaded with traditional concepts of virtue, and often use 'sinner' as a friendly term of address.

** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' has a mild example in the world of the First, which was 9/10ths oblierated by [[LightIsNotGood a Flood of Light]] (which was accidentally caused by some would-be heros) and the remaining areas have been plagued by EndlessDaytime, and swarms of angelic-looking murderous Sin-Eaters for more than 100 years since. The inhaibtants are therefore a little jaded with traditional concepts of virtue, and often use 'sinner' as a friendly term of address.

-->'''Sorting Hat:''' I can see you learned quite well all the cunning you could ever need during your last stay in [[SchoolForScheming Slytherin.]]\\

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* ''Magazine/MADMagazine'' writer and cartoonist Dick [=DeBartolo=] says that insults were, unsurprisingly, a common part of daily life at the publication. He tells a story about how editor William Gaines approached him one day and asked if anything was wrong. [=DeBartolo=] said no, why do you ask? Gaines replied with genuine sadness and concern, "You haven't insulted me in a few days. Are you sure there's nothing wrong?" [=DeBartolo=] responded, "Listen here, you fat fuck, if there was anything, I would tell you!" Gaines walked away with a giant grin on his face.
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* The Wartmongers, a race of toad-like creatures on ''WesternAnimation/TheSmurfs'', are a variation; not all of them are evil (though most of the ones the Smurfs interact with are villains) but in their society, "pleasant is disgusting and disgusting is pleasant". For example, they think being ugly and covered with warts is attractive, and consider the adorable Pussywillow Pixies repulsive; also, they don't like the thought of clean water, but are fond of mud and grime, and they turn their nose at food that other folks like while eating rather ''unpleasant'' things.

* ''Webcomic/{{Blip}}'': An [[HornyDevils incubus]] nearly dies of a purifying infection, and his heart transplant needs to be corrupted before it starts functioning.

* ''Film/TheHidden1987'': When the evil parasite inspects a warehouse storing guns and stolen antiques belonging to some criminal he just murdered, he turns on a record player which proceeds to play a folksy jingle. After listening to it for a few seconds he angrily destroys the record; his evil taste in music apparently doesn't extend beyond death metal.

* ''Film/TheHidden'': When the evil parasite inspects a warehouse storing guns and stolen antiques belonging to some criminal he just murdered, he turns on a record player which proceeds to play a folksy jingle. After listening to it for a few seconds he angrily destroys the record; his evil taste in music apparently doesn't extend beyond death metal.

* In ''LightNovel/TheCreationAlchemistEnjoysFreedom'', the main character's birthplace is a country that deifies combat prowess and looks upon non-combat gods given jobs like his [alchemist], to the point that noble houses routinely disown their non-combat progeny. This is bad enough, but his father takes it one step further and finds Thor's attempts to use his job to better the world as absolutely shameful, does everything humanly possible to hide the boys merits and drive the boy to suicide, and sees it as supremely honorable when he gets the idea to banish the boy to what he sees as certain death by sending him off against his will to the Demon King Territory, and repeatedly brags about it, expecting praise.

** Demons have a weird sort of BlueAndOrangeMorality that sits on the borderline between this and MightMakesRight. So destroying things and killing/eating people because you feel like it is good, but restraining yourself and caring what others thing about is bad.

* Music/TheRollingStones "Sympathy for the Devil":

* ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'': "[[Recap/RickAndMortyS5E5AmortycanGrickfitti Amortycan Grickfitti]]" features a clan of [[Franchise/{{Hellraiser}} Cenobite]] {{exp|y}}ies that behave this way to an extreme that annoys everyone around them. They end up befriending Jerry because they find his obnoxious nature charming, only for them to turn on each other when he [[BathroomStallOfOverheardInsults overhears them talking trash about him in the bathroom.]]

* Played straight in Seven Stones by Music/{{Genesis}}.

* In ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' there's Seija Kijin, an [[{{Youkai}} amanojaku]]. She likes what others hate and hates what others like. [[HatedByAllNobody likes her]], [[WantsToBeHated and she likes it that way]].

* In ''Franchise/TouhouProject'' there's Seija Kijin, an [[{{Youkai}} amanojaku]]. She likes what others hate and hates what others like. Nobody likes her, and she likes it that way.

* In ''TabletopGame/DemonTheDescent'', as part of their BlueAndOrangeMorality, Demons literally reverse the status of the Virtues [[note]]Charity, Faith, Fortitude, Hope, Justice, Prudence, Temperance[[/note]] and the Vices.[[note]]Envy, Gluttony, Greed, Lust, Pride, Sloth, Wrath[[/note]] This is because they are, essentially, hyper-advanced sentient computer programs that have gone rogue and no longer respond to the will of the God-Machine that created them. Thusly, from their viewpoint, traditional human virtues either imply subservience to the God-Machine or risk their continued survival, whilst traditional human vices further cement their independence and status as rebels against the God-Machine's tyranny. For example, Charity is evil to a Demon because it means the Demon is giving away valuable resources that could be needed to survive or to help other Demons, and doing so for nothing, whilst Pride reaffirms the Demon's self-esteem and certainty in its existence as an independent being and not a cog in the God-Machine.

* Parodied in a story by Creator/JamesThurber: "Bad bye!"
* The villains in Niel Hancock's ''Circle of Light'' series talk like this.

* A variation occurs in the second ''Archives of Anthropos'' book, when Pan forces Eleanor to dance and sing in her sleep, "Lunacy, lunacy, madness is sanity, truth is profanity . . ."

* In ''Judgement on Gotham'', [[Characters/BatmanRoguesGalleryPart3 The Scarecrow]] is able to incapacitate [[ComicBook/JudgeDredd Judge Death]] by injecting him with a formula that causes him to hallucinate his greatest fears -- fluffy bunnies, [[Franchise/MyLittlePony pink ponies]], and [[GoodHurtsEvil other cute things]].