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* CivilizedAnimal: They ''do'' go to battle armed with spears and wearing armour.

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* CivilizedAnimal: It's a mock epic parodying works in the genre like the ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'', and it does so by replacing the heroic figures with talking mice and frogs. They ''do'' go to battle armed with spears definitely still behave like animals in some respects, but they wear armor, carry tiny spears, and wearing armour.generally act 'civilized' throughout the 300-line poem.
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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[note]]Except for much of the battle, the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side.[/note]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word 'batrachomyomachia' and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict".

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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[note]]Except for much of the battle, the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side.[/note]], [[/note]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word 'batrachomyomachia' and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict".
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* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ''galéēs kíndynon'' ("the danger of the weasel").

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* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ''galéēs kíndynon'' ("the (γαλέης κίνδυνον, "the danger of the weasel").
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* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ ''Leichopínax'')[[/note]], who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.

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* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ ''Leichopínax'')[[/note]], Lick-platter (Λειχοπίναξ, ''Leichopínax''), who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.



* NominalImportance: Completely averted. Though we don't get much information about these characters ''besides'' their names, fathers' names, and how they die or kill their enemy.
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* NominalImportance: Completely averted. Though averted, though we don't get much information about these characters ''besides'' their names, fathers' names, and how they die or kill their enemy.
%% {{Parody}}* {{Parody}}: One of Homeric epics.
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->Ἀρχόμενος πρώτης σελίδος χορὸν ἐξ Ἑλικῶνος
->ἐλδεῖν εἰς ἐμὸν ἧτορ ἐπεύχομαι εἵνεκ' ἀοιδῆς,
->ἣν νέον ἐν δέλτοισιν ἐμοῖς ἐπὶ γούνασι θῆκα,
->δῆριν ἀπειρεσίην, πολεμόκλονον ἔργον Ἄρηος,
->εὐχόμενος μερόπεσσιν ἐς οὔατα πᾶσι βαλέσθαι
->πῶς μύες ἐν βατράχοισιν ἀριστεύσαντες ἔβησαν
-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[labelnote:*]]Archómenos prótos selídos choròn ex Helikônos / eldeîn eis emòn hê̄tor epeúxomai ehínek' aoidê̄s, / ḕn néon en déltoisin emoîs epì goúnasi thê̄ka, / dê̄rin apeiresíēn, polemóklonon érgou Ários, / euchómenos merópessin es oúata pâsi balésthai / pôs mýes en batráchoisin aristeúsantes ébēsa[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/labelnote]]

The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of Creator/{{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental death of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.

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->Ἀρχόμενος πρώτης σελίδος χορὸν ἐξ Ἑλικῶνος
->ἐλδεῖν
Ἑλικῶνος\\
ἐλδεῖν
εἰς ἐμὸν ἧτορ ἐπεύχομαι εἵνεκ' ἀοιδῆς,
->ἣν
ἀοιδῆς,\\
ἣν
νέον ἐν δέλτοισιν ἐμοῖς ἐπὶ γούνασι θῆκα,
->δῆριν
θῆκα,\\
δῆριν
ἀπειρεσίην, πολεμόκλονον ἔργον Ἄρηος,
->εὐχόμενος
Ἄρηος,\\
εὐχόμενος
μερόπεσσιν ἐς οὔατα πᾶσι βαλέσθαι
->πῶς
βαλέσθαι\\
πῶς
μύες ἐν βατράχοισιν ἀριστεύσαντες ἔβησαν
-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[labelnote:*]]Archómenos 1-6[[labelnote:*]]''Archómenos prótos selídos choròn ex Helikônos / eldeîn eis emòn hê̄tor epeúxomai ehínek' aoidê̄s, / ḕn néon en déltoisin emoîs epì goúnasi thê̄ka, / dê̄rin apeiresíēn, polemóklonon érgou Ários, / euchómenos merópessin es oúata pâsi balésthai / pôs mýes en batráchoisin aristeúsantes ébēsa[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, ébēsa''[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/labelnote]]

The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]]"Frog-Mouse Battle"[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of Creator/{{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental death of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.



And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]],[[note]]Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side.[[/note]] character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."

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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]],[[note]]Except participation]][[note]]Except for much of the battle battle, the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side.[[/note]] [/note]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" 'batrachomyomachia' and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."
conflict".



* AnachronisticClue: As noted above, this poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.

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* AnachronisticClue: As noted above, this poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} Creator/{{Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.
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Murder is intentional in any of its degrees.


The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of Creator/{{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.

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The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of Creator/{{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder death of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.
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* SacredHospitality: The frog king Puff-jaw offers to recieve Crumb-snatcher as a guest before he takes him across the lake and accidentally drowns him.

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* SacredHospitality: The frog king Puff-jaw offers to recieve receive Crumb-snatcher as a guest before he takes him across the lake and accidentally drowns him.

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* ThisMeansWar

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TalkingAnimal: They even have kings!
* ThisMeansWarThisMeansWar: The prince of frogs has failed to save the prince of the mice after they had a pleasant conversation! Surely, the mice must avenge this insult!



* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ("the danger of the weasel").

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* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ''galéēs kíndynon'' ("the danger of the weasel").
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The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[note]](Ψιχάρπαξ)[[/note]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[note]](Φυσίγναθος)[[/note]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a watersnake appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].

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The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[note]](Ψιχάρπαξ)[[/note]] Crumb-snatcher[[note]](Ψιχάρπαξ ''Psichárpax'')[[/note]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[note]](Φυσίγναθος)[[/note]], Puff-jaw[[note]](Φυσίγναθος ''Physígnathos'')[[/note]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a watersnake appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].



* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ)[[/note]], who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.

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* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ)[[/note]], Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ ''Leichopínax'')[[/note]], who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.

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His death is witnessed by the mice and, of course, ThisMeansWar

And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[note]](Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)[[/note]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."

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His death is witnessed by the mice and, of course, ThisMeansWar

ThisMeansWar.

And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[note]](Except participation]],[[note]]Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)[[/note]], side.[[/note]] character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."



* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ("the danger of the weasel").




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* WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ("the danger of the weasel").
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Γερανομαχία, Ἀραχνομαχία, and Ψαρομαχία

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to Creator/{{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[AnachronisticClue the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].

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Γερανομαχία, Ἀραχνομαχία, and Ψαρομαχία

One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', ''Γερανομαχία'' (''Geranomachía''), ''Ἀραχνομαχία'' (''Arachnomachía''), and ''Ψαρομαχία'': ''Ψαρομαχία'' (''Psaromachía''): battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to Creator/{{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[AnachronisticClue the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].
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-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[labelnote:*]]Archómenos prótos selídos choròn ex Helikônos / eldeîn eis emòn hê̄tor epeúxomai ehínek' aoidê̄s, / ḕn néon en déltoisin emoîs epì goúnasi thê̄ka, / dê̄rin apeiresíēn, polemóklonon érgou Ários, / euchómenos merópessin es oúata pâsi balésthai / pôs mýes en batráchoisin aristeúsantes ébēsa[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/labelnote]]ἁἀ

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-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[labelnote:*]]Archómenos prótos selídos choròn ex Helikônos / eldeîn eis emòn hê̄tor epeúxomai ehínek' aoidê̄s, / ḕn néon en déltoisin emoîs epì goúnasi thê̄ka, / dê̄rin apeiresíēn, polemóklonon érgou Ários, / euchómenos merópessin es oúata pâsi balésthai / pôs mýes en batráchoisin aristeúsantes ébēsa[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/labelnote]]ἁἀ
frogs)[[/labelnote]]
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-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[note]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/note]]

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-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[note]](Beginning, 1-6[[labelnote:*]]Archómenos prótos selídos choròn ex Helikônos / eldeîn eis emòn hê̄tor epeúxomai ehínek' aoidê̄s, / ḕn néon en déltoisin emoîs epì goúnasi thê̄ka, / dê̄rin apeiresíēn, polemóklonon érgou Ários, / euchómenos merópessin es oúata pâsi balésthai / pôs mýes en batráchoisin aristeúsantes ébēsa[[/labelnote]][[labelnote:**]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)[[/note]]
frogs)[[/labelnote]]ἁἀ
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* {{Badass}}: Among the frogs, Rueful[[note]](Ὀριγανίων)[[/note]] is mentioned as the greatest and compared to Ares. Slice-snatcher[[note]](Μεριδάρπαξ)[[/note]] is the best of the mice, threatening to rout the entire army of the frogs.
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The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of {{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.

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The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of {{Homer}}'s Creator/{{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.



One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[AnachronisticClue the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, Creator/{{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[AnachronisticClue the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].
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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[SpottingTheThread the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[SpottingTheThread [[AnachronisticClue the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].



* AnachronisticClue: This poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.

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* AnachronisticClue: This As noted above, this poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.
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* AnachronismClue: This poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.

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* AnachronismClue: This poem was long considered to be by {{Creator/Homer}} himself. Then someone noticed that the poem says "The cock had crow'd up"... there were no roosters in Greece until a couple centuries after Homer.
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* FrogsAndToads: Naturally.
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Pass The Popcorn is about eating food while watching things, not just about being callous


* PassThePopcorn: Minus the popcorn, of course, but Athena and the other gods would rather be entertained by the mice and the frogs' conflict than help them.

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great.

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great.
Great. The Homer version isn't taken seriously by scholars today because [[SpottingTheThread the poem mentions roosters, and there weren't any in Greece until a couple of centuries later]].



The mock epic is available online [[http://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/graeca/Chronologia/S_ante01/Batrachomyomachia/bat_text.html here]] in the ancient Greek; in English [[http://www.homer.com.mx/HOMERICA/BATRACHOMYOMACHIA.html here]].

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The mock epic is available online [[http://www.hs-augsburg.de/~harsch/graeca/Chronologia/S_ante01/Batrachomyomachia/bat_text.html here]] in the ancient Greek; in English [[http://www.homer.com.mx/HOMERICA/BATRACHOMYOMACHIA.html [[http://archive.org/details/homersbatrachomy00chapuoft here]].
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->δῆριν ἀπειρεσίην, πολεμόκλονον ἔργον Ἄρηος,

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->δῆριν ἀπειρεσίην, πολεμόκλονον πολεμόκλονον ἔργον Ἄρηος,



-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[hottip:*:(Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)]]

The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[hottip:*:(Frog-Mouse Battle)]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of {{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.

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-->--''Batrachomyomachia'', Lines 1-6[[hottip:*:(Beginning, 1-6[[note]](Beginning, first I pray to the choir to come down from Helicon / into my heart on account of the song of the page, / which I newly placed in writing on my knee, / that immense conflict, that clamorous deed of Ares, / praying to cast in all ears of mortals / how the mice proved their valour on the frogs)]]

frogs)[[/note]]

The ''Batrachomyomachia'' (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[hottip:*:(Frog-Mouse Battle)]]) (''Βατραχομυομαχία''[[note]](Frog-Mouse Battle)[[/note]]) is an ancient Greek epic in the tradition of {{Homer}}'s ''[[Literature/TheIliad Iliad]]'' and ''[[Literature/TheOdyssey Odyssey]]'', which tackles the grave subjects of war and revenge, as the accidental murder of a prince leads the two armies into conflict.



One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[hottip:*:(There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great.

The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Ψιχάρπαξ)]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[hottip:*:(Φυσίγναθος)]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a watersnake appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].

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One of the ancient "Beast Epics"[[hottip:*:(There Epics"[[note]](There also existed the lost ''Γερανομαχία'', ''Ἀραχνομαχία'', and ''Ψαρομαχία'': battles of cranes, spiders, and sparrows)]], sparrows)[[/note]], the ''Batrachomyomachia'' details a day-long battle between mice and frogs as a mock epic, parodying the genre (and making {{Parody}} OlderThanFeudalism). The approximately three-hundred line poem's authorship is disputed: the Romans attributed it to {{Homer}}, while Plutarch called it the work of Pigres of Halicarnassus. Some modern scholars remain unconvinced and point instead to a poet in the time of Alexander the Great.

The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Ψιχάρπαξ)]] Crumb-snatcher[[note]](Ψιχάρπαξ)[[/note]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[hottip:*:(Φυσίγναθος)]], Puff-jaw[[note]](Φυσίγναθος)[[/note]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a watersnake appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].



And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[hottip:*:(bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[hottip:*:(Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."

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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[hottip:*:(bean-pod scenes]][[note]](bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)]], frogs)[[/note]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[hottip:*:(Except participation]][[note]](Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)]], side)[[/note]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."



* {{Badass}}: Among the frogs, Rueful[[hottip:*:(Ὀριγανίων)]] is mentioned as the greatest and compared to Ares. Slice-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Μεριδάρπαξ)]] is the best of the mice, threatening to rout the entire army of the frogs.

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* {{Badass}}: Among the frogs, Rueful[[hottip:*:(Ὀριγανίων)]] Rueful[[note]](Ὀριγανίων)[[/note]] is mentioned as the greatest and compared to Ares. Slice-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Μεριδάρπαξ)]] Slice-snatcher[[note]](Μεριδάρπαξ)[[/note]] is the best of the mice, threatening to rout the entire army of the frogs.



* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[hottip:*:(Λειχοπίναξ)]], who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.

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* BearerOfBadNews: Lick-platter[[hottip:*:(Λειχοπίναξ)]], Lick-platter[[note]](Λειχοπίναξ)[[/note]], who brings news of Crumb-snatcher's death to the mice.
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The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Ψιχάρπαξ)]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[hottip:*:(Φυσίγναθος)]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a [[SnakesAreEvil watersnake]] appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].

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The mouse prince Crumb-snatcher[[hottip:*:(Ψιχάρπαξ)]] comes to a lake for a drink when he encounters Puff-jaw[[hottip:*:(Φυσίγναθος)]], king of the frogs. They meet cordially, and Puff-jaw offers to bear his guest across the lake to his home. In the middle of the lake, however, a [[SnakesAreEvil watersnake]] watersnake appears and the panicked Puff-jaw dives for safety, leaving the hapless Crumb-snatcher to [[ForgotICouldntSwim drown]].


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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[hottip:*:(bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[hottip:*:(Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."

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And so their day-long battle is described with all the elements of the [[TheEpic epic genre]]: [[LockAndLoadMontage arming scenes]][[hottip:*:(bean-pod greaves, skin breastplates, and peanut-shell helmets for the mice; mallow-leaf greaves, beet-leaf breastplates, and snail-shell helmets for the frogs)]], [[DivineIntervention divine participation]][[hottip:*:(Except for much of the battle the gods prefer to amuse themselves watching than help either side)]], character epithets, epic [[FinalBattle battle scenes]], etc. A plethora of epic conventions, all used to describe [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome [[MundaneMadeAwesome warring mice and frogs]]. Thus in modern times, the word "batrachomyomachia" and its various translations has come to mean "a silly conflict."



* {{Bathos}}: You have the whole [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome epic]] style, complete with the gods watching over the conflict, and it's about mice and frogs.

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* {{Bathos}}: You have the whole [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome [[MundaneMadeAwesome epic]] style, complete with the gods watching over the conflict, and it's about mice and frogs.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotAwesome
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* EverythingsWickedWithWeasels: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ("the danger of the weasel").

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* EverythingsWickedWithWeasels: WickedWeasel: Crumb-snatcher is introduced having escaped γαλέης κίνδυνον ("the danger of the weasel").
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* OlderThanFeudalism

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