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** [[https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/thunderbirds/images/7/76/MOV-Pod-select.png/revision/latest?cb=20200907191412 This image]] shows that the legs are ahead and behind the pods, as well as to the sides of them. Which means there is enough room.
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** Maybe just a sense of style? I mean, if they're going to go to all that expense to build everything else, a quick coat of paint isn't too much.


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** Maybe Scott was his personal hero?


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** Maybe the mom was blond with a recessive red hair gene, and Jeff's hair used to be brown before it went gray? And I don't think it says anywhere Brains is related to them--maybe he's just a trusted family employee.
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**** That's 'agents' in the British terminology - external people hired for short or long term work. C.f. intelligence agents vs intelligence officers
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* John and Alan are blonds, Jeff, Scott and Virgil are brunets and Gordon is a redhead. How many mothers were there? And what is Brains' relationship to the others? Did Jeff father an entire team of bastards?

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* John and Alan are blonds, Jeff, Jeff (Grey hair, brown eyebrows), Scott and Virgil are brunets brunets, and Gordon is a redhead. How many mothers were there? And what is Brains' relationship to the others? Did Jeff father an entire team of bastards?
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* John and Alan are blonds, Jeff, Scott and Virgil are brunets and Gordon is a redhead. How many mothers were there? And what is Brains' relationship to the others? Did Jeff father an entire team of bastards?

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* So has Tintin and The Hood's PsychicPowers ever been explained? My headcanon is that they're part of a race with PsychicPowers, or are TheReptilians (they give me that vibe), but I've always been curious.

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* So has Tintin and The Hood's PsychicPowers ever been explained? My headcanon is that they're part of a race with PsychicPowers, or are TheReptilians LizardFolk (they give me that vibe), but I've always been curious.curious.
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* If the Tracey brothers are named after the first five Americans in space, why did Jeff start with Scott Carpenter (the fourth American in space)? And why use Alan last, even when Alan Shepard was the ''first'' American in space?
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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have the knowledge to be able to know what's on the blueprints, or the required materials to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.

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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might not have the knowledge to be able to know what's on the blueprints, or the required materials to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.
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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have no knowledge or the materials required to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.

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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have no the knowledge to be able to know what's on the blueprints, or the required materials required to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.
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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have no knowledge or the materials available to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.

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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have no knowledge or the materials available required to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.
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** He also might not be able to even ''use'' the blueprints, since he might have no knowledge or the materials available to be able to recreate each and every Thunderbird.
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** It only produces the mist and interferes with communication when in close proximity to Alsterene, i.e. when the Ocean Pioneer tanker carrying tonnes of Alsterene moved into the area.
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* During the 2004 film, Fermat states he can't swim. Thing is, the guy ''lives on an island.'' Wouldn't teaching him to swim be a priority for his dad? Or if not him, one of the others?

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* During the 2004 film, Fermat states he can't swim. Thing is, the guy ''lives on an island.'' Wouldn't teaching him to swim be a priority for his dad? Or if not him, one of the others?others?
* So has Tintin and The Hood's PsychicPowers ever been explained? My headcanon is that they're part of a race with PsychicPowers, or are TheReptilians (they give me that vibe), but I've always been curious.
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** Possibly the Traceys help with maintenance in their spare time?



* In ''The Uninvited'', why do Tintin, Scott, Virgil (and presumably Brains, although not seen) camp in the desert, after rescuing Scott after he was shot down? Presumably it's to allow Scott to rest before flying Thunderbird 1 home, but why in the desert, in ''tents''? Would they not be vulnerable to another attack by the Zombites, considering Jeff did not want Tintin to go at all? We can see that the tents are dwarfed by Thunderbird 2; would it not be safer for them to sleep inside Thunderbird 2? There is more than enough room inside.

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* In ''The Uninvited'', why do Tintin, Scott, Virgil (and presumably Brains, although not seen) camp in the desert, after rescuing Scott after he was shot down? Presumably it's to allow Scott to rest before flying Thunderbird 1 home, but why in the desert, in ''tents''? Would they not be vulnerable to another attack by the Zombites, considering Jeff did not want Tintin to go at all? We can see that the tents are dwarfed by Thunderbird 2; would it not be safer for them to sleep inside Thunderbird 2? There is more than enough room inside.inside.
* During the 2004 film, Fermat states he can't swim. Thing is, the guy ''lives on an island.'' Wouldn't teaching him to swim be a priority for his dad? Or if not him, one of the others?

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* It takes thousands of people to get a single NASA launch up there. Recoverable tech like the Space Shuttles needs a ''lot'' of looking after. Who does the maintainence at Tracey Island? Where are all the ground crews? who keeps all the machinery and moving parts in working order? surely it can't be Brains working as a one-man operation?

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* It takes thousands of people to get a single NASA launch up there. Recoverable tech like the Space Shuttles needs a ''lot'' of looking after. Who does the maintainence maintenence at Tracey Island? Where are all the ground crews? who keeps all the machinery and moving parts in working order? surely it can't be Brains working as a one-man operation?operation?
** In "Martian Invasion", we see Tintin doing a routine check of Thunderbird 1. It's likely that as a family, they all do a lot of routine maintenance, probably timetabled, and probably each of the Tracy boys responsible for his own craft; a lot of this would be too boring to show on TV. Admittedly, they are a relatively small crew to be doing this, but perhaps Jeff doesn't want too many people involved, in the interest of secrecy.



* Why do the various Thunderbirds have large signs in their launch bays saying "Thunderbird [X] Launch Bay" or similar? For whose benefit are they there? It's a top-secret organisation and all the people on Tracy Island know exactly what each launch bay is.

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* Why do the various Thunderbirds have large signs in their launch bays saying "Thunderbird [X] Launch Bay" or similar? For whose benefit are they there? It's a top-secret organisation and all the people on Tracy Island know exactly what each launch bay is.is.
* In ''The Uninvited'', why do Tintin, Scott, Virgil (and presumably Brains, although not seen) camp in the desert, after rescuing Scott after he was shot down? Presumably it's to allow Scott to rest before flying Thunderbird 1 home, but why in the desert, in ''tents''? Would they not be vulnerable to another attack by the Zombites, considering Jeff did not want Tintin to go at all? We can see that the tents are dwarfed by Thunderbird 2; would it not be safer for them to sleep inside Thunderbird 2? There is more than enough room inside.
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* Given that Scott and his brothers are the sons of an ex-astronaut turned multi-billionaire industrialist, why does no one recognise them when they go on rescue missions?

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* Given that Scott and his brothers are the sons of an ex-astronaut turned multi-billionaire industrialist, why does no one recognise them when they go on rescue missions?missions?
* Why do the various Thunderbirds have large signs in their launch bays saying "Thunderbird [X] Launch Bay" or similar? For whose benefit are they there? It's a top-secret organisation and all the people on Tracy Island know exactly what each launch bay is.
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* It takes thousands of people to get a single NASA launch up there. Recoverable tech like the Space Shuttles needs a ''lot'' of looking after. Who does the maintainence at Tracey Island? Where are all the ground crews? who keeps all the machinery and moving parts in working order? surely it can't be Brains working as a one-man operation?

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* It takes thousands of people to get a single NASA launch up there. Recoverable tech like the Space Shuttles needs a ''lot'' of looking after. Who does the maintainence at Tracey Island? Where are all the ground crews? who keeps all the machinery and moving parts in working order? surely it can't be Brains working as a one-man operation?operation?
* Given that Scott and his brothers are the sons of an ex-astronaut turned multi-billionaire industrialist, why does no one recognise them when they go on rescue missions?
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*** In "The Imposters", we learn Jeff has an international network of agents.

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*** In "The Imposters", we learn Jeff has an international network of agents.agents.
* It takes thousands of people to get a single NASA launch up there. Recoverable tech like the Space Shuttles needs a ''lot'' of looking after. Who does the maintainence at Tracey Island? Where are all the ground crews? who keeps all the machinery and moving parts in working order? surely it can't be Brains working as a one-man operation?
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** Yep I always thought one was the radio too but it turned out they’re spare barrels for the guns that shoot different ammo. The idea was that instead of switching clips you put a different barrel on the gun. The blue barrel was stun gas and the yellow was ‘needle dart’. One of the tie in novels definitely confirmed it and I think so did certain action figures.

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** Yep Yeah I always thought one was the radio too to but it turned out they’re spare barrels for the guns that shoot different ammo. The idea was that instead of switching clips you put a different barrel on the gun. The blue barrel was stun gas and the yellow was ‘needle dart’. One of the tie in novels definitely confirmed it and I think so did certain action figures.
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** Yep I always thought one was the radio too but it turned out they’re spare barrels for the guns that shoot different ammo. The idea was that instead of switching clips you put a different barrel on the gun. The blue barrel was stun gas and the yellow was ‘needle dart’. One of the tie in novels definitely confirmed it and I think so did certain action figures.
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* A classic YouFailPhysicsForever moment in both the series and ''Thunderbirds Are Go'' is the sonic boom at Mach 1 -- and ''only'' at Mach 1. Fireflash or Zero X is accelerating to supersonic speed and the captain announces, "Mach 1", at which point there's a dull boom -- ''which can be heard in the cockpit'' -- and then nothing. No more boom as the air/spacecraft goes on up to Mach 6 or escape velocity. Okay, you can argue that the thing is way, way up in the air by that time, but that bang at Mach 1 is annoying.

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* A classic YouFailPhysicsForever ArtisticLicensePhysics moment in both the series and ''Thunderbirds Are Go'' is the sonic boom at Mach 1 -- and ''only'' at Mach 1. Fireflash or Zero X is accelerating to supersonic speed and the captain announces, "Mach 1", at which point there's a dull boom -- ''which can be heard in the cockpit'' -- and then nothing. No more boom as the air/spacecraft goes on up to Mach 6 or escape velocity. Okay, you can argue that the thing is way, way up in the air by that time, but that bang at Mach 1 is annoying.
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* What are the blue and yellow tubes on the IR uniform holsters for? Extra ammo for the sidearm? Radio? Breath mints? The only occasion I can think of when it could have been explained is in “The Uninvited”, when Scott goes into the pyramid, he has a handheld radio, perhaps a collapsible one from the holster, even though he still appeared to have both tubes after the radio was destroyed?

* So in it’s hanger, we often see Thunderbird 2 selecting one of the six pods by having them slide from left to right underneath itself. However, whenever we see TB2 release the pod at the danger zone, it’s raising legs are at the sides of the pod, meaning there wouldn’t be enough room between the front and rear legs for the pods to slide sideways between in the hanger.
*Thunderbird 5 has “International Rescue” written in giant letters over the main control room window. But why is written so as to be readable only from the inside? So John doesn’t forget who he works for? Surely it wouldn’t matter to have it readable from outside, or there wouldn’t be signage outside saying “Thunderbird 5” to begin with.
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** In regards to that last bit, they do all have 'Thunderbird [Number]' or just [=TBx=] written on them, like they said, they saw the markings on it, and that's presumably what they meant (and from the angle it was lying at they probably only saw the TB1 markings and correctly concluded that it meant Thunderbird 1).

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** In regards to that last bit, they do all have 'Thunderbird [Number]' or just [=TBx=] written on them, like they said, they saw the markings on it, and that's presumably what they meant (and from the angle it was lying at they probably only saw the TB1 [=TB1=] markings and correctly concluded that it meant Thunderbird 1).



* Can anyone explain how Thunderbirds 1 & 2 and Fireflash are supposed to move? They are explicitly stated to be [[strike:nuclear]] atomic powered. Thing is, nuclear reactors aren't much good for propulsion unless said propulsion is an electric motor (see: ''submarines and ships''). How the heck does a nuclear reactor power what are clearly ''rockets''? More to the point, if your nuclear reactor ''is'' behaving like a rocket then ''something is very'' '''''very''''' ''badly wrong indeed''.

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* Can anyone explain how Thunderbirds 1 & 2 and Fireflash are supposed to move? They are explicitly stated to be [[strike:nuclear]] be atomic powered. Thing is, nuclear reactors aren't much good for propulsion unless said propulsion is an electric motor (see: ''submarines and ships''). How the heck does a nuclear reactor power what are clearly ''rockets''? More to the point, if your nuclear reactor ''is'' behaving like a rocket then ''something is very'' '''''very''''' ''badly wrong indeed''.



* AndAnotherThing, paraphrased from somewhere else but I can't remember where I put it: Fireflash can travel at Mach 6, approximately 4,500mph. It is a super-aerodynamic plane. Thunderbird 2 can travel at ''at least'' 5,000mph. It is ''a freaking'' '''''brick.''''' [[FlatWhat What.]]

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* AndAnotherThing, paraphrased from somewhere else but I can't remember where I put it: Fireflash can travel at Mach 6, approximately 4,500mph. It is a super-aerodynamic plane. Thunderbird 2 can travel at ''at least'' 5,000mph. It is ''a freaking'' '''''brick.''''' [[FlatWhat What.]]'''''

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* The Automatic Camera Dectector seems to cause more problems than it solves. Why is it an issue if people take pictures of the outside of the Thunderbirds? It's not like there's a big sign on the back of TB1 going "Look! Secret technology here =>". Further, if people had been able to take pictures of the Thunderbirds, the entire problem highlighted in "The Impostors" never would have come up - it's clearly not a Thunderbird the bank robbers are flying around in. FURTHER! In "The Uninvited", the two Saharan explorers drive by a crashed TB1. One of them goes, "Look, the markings! It's a Thunderbird!" How did he know what the Thunderbird looked like since ''there are '''no''' photographs, ever''. Grr.
** In regards to that last bit, they do all have 'Thunderbird [Number]' or just TBx written on them, like they said, they saw the markings on it, and that's presumably what they meant (and from the angle it was lying at they probably only saw the TB1 markings and correctly concluded that it meant Thunderbird 1).

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* The Automatic Camera Dectector seems to cause more problems than it solves. Why is it an issue if people take pictures of the outside of the Thunderbirds? It's not like there's a big sign on the back of TB1 [=TB1=] going "Look! Secret technology here =>". Further, if people had been able to take pictures of the Thunderbirds, the entire problem highlighted in "The Impostors" never would have come up - it's clearly not a Thunderbird the bank robbers are flying around in. FURTHER! In "The Uninvited", the two Saharan explorers drive by a crashed TB1.[=TB1=]. One of them goes, "Look, the markings! It's a Thunderbird!" How did he know what the Thunderbird looked like since ''there are '''no''' photographs, ever''. Grr.
** In regards to that last bit, they do all have 'Thunderbird [Number]' or just TBx [=TBx=] written on them, like they said, they saw the markings on it, and that's presumably what they meant (and from the angle it was lying at they probably only saw the TB1 markings and correctly concluded that it meant Thunderbird 1).



** International Rescue has many agents? I haven't seen the reboot so maybe it does there, but the original series is Penelope, Parker and maybe Tin Tin on occasion. Other than that it is a small family run operation.

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** International Rescue has many agents? I haven't seen the reboot so maybe it does there, but the original series is Penelope, Parker and maybe Tin Tin on occasion. Other than that it is a small family run operation.operation.
*** In "The Imposters", we learn Jeff has an international network of agents.
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** International Rescue is a worldwide organization with many agents. First of all I highly doubt the Thunderbirds fleet is the only team in I.R. probably the elite team, as it could be speculated that there are other teams with their own fleet of vehicles. The agents may follow the same rule. If people keep seeing 'Thunderbird' on each I.R. Vehicle or anything too similar, they may connect the dots.

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** International Rescue is a worldwide organization with many agents. First of all I highly doubt the Thunderbirds fleet is the only team in I.R. probably the elite team, as it could be speculated that there are other teams with their own fleet of vehicles. The agents may follow the same rule. If people keep seeing 'Thunderbird' on each I.R. Vehicle or anything too similar, they may connect the dots.dots.
** International Rescue has many agents? I haven't seen the reboot so maybe it does there, but the original series is Penelope, Parker and maybe Tin Tin on occasion. Other than that it is a small family run operation.
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*** This. Thunderbird 1 leaving home is on a very tight schedule with lives on the line; Thunderbird 1 returning home is on a casual schedule for lunch.

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** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_aircraft Less harmful plans]] were made in the 60s but they were nothing like as fast as the Thunderbirds, and the projects never really [[IncrediblyLamePun got off the ground]], due to the potential radiation - very similar to Fireflash in the pilot, [[ShownTheirWork oddly enough]].
** It's supposed to operate under a dual power system. Atomic reactor drives the turbines to make it move in the air and rocket fuel gets it on and off the ground. That's why the rockets aren't constantly firing. One of my cutaway books shows fuel tanks.

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** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_aircraft Less harmful plans]] were made in the 60s but they were nothing like as fast as the Thunderbirds, and the projects never really [[IncrediblyLamePun got off the ground]], due to the potential radiation - very similar to not unlike Fireflash in the pilot, [[ShownTheirWork oddly enough]].
** It's supposed to operate under a dual power system. Atomic reactor drives the turbines to make it move in the air and rocket fuel gets it on and off air, while the ground.rockets are there to get it to a safe operating altitude. That's why the rockets aren't constantly firing. One of my cutaway books shows fuel tanks.


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** I personally consider it live-action, since it's filmed in real-time with puppets rather than being animated in stop-motion.
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** This is more a case of TheCoconutEffect. Most people don't know how sonic booms work, they assume it's something that you hear in the plane as you cross the sound barrier. When actually, you don't hear or feel anything in the plane, and the sonic boom is actually a shock wave trailed behind the plane once it does go faster than mach 1.
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** Most likely schematics or blueprints would be utterly impossible to get, because Jeff would have them either safe or destroyed. At least with photographs, there's a chance of getting away with it. And the kind of people he seems to want to sell to, like "General X", probably have experts who could at least make educated guesses from photographic evidence.
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** According to WordOfGod, the reason why the FAB-1 was a Rolls Royce and not a Ford Thunderbird was because it's obviously a British show, and the [[CoolCar classiest British car]] at the time that everyone drooled over was a Rolls Royce. The only reason why the live-action movie didn't use a Rolls Royce was because BMW (The current owners of Rolls Royce) wouldn't give permission, so Ford jumped in with their "retro" model.

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** According to WordOfGod, the reason why the FAB-1 was a Rolls Royce and not a Ford Thunderbird was because it's obviously a British show, and the [[CoolCar classiest British car]] at the time that everyone drooled over was a Rolls Royce. The only reason why the live-action movie didn't use a Rolls Royce was because BMW (The current owners of Rolls Royce) wouldn't give permission, so Ford jumped in with their "retro" model.model.
**International Rescue is a worldwide organization with many agents. First of all I highly doubt the Thunderbirds fleet is the only team in I.R. probably the elite team, as it could be speculated that there are other teams with their own fleet of vehicles. The agents may follow the same rule. If people keep seeing 'Thunderbird' on each I.R. Vehicle or anything too similar, they may connect the dots.

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