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On second thought, maybe this should remain here in case no one finds the new one for just First Departure.

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* Why do Phia and T'nique require two remaining party slots instead of one each? That would make sense if that's still to reserve a space for one of the mandatory characters, but by the time you can recruit them, Millie and Ronyx are already both in your party. Just what sets them apart from Pericci and Welch?
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* Why do Phia and T'nique require two remaining party slots instead of one each? That would make sense if that's still to reserve a space for one of the mandatory characters, but by the time you can recruit them, Millie and Ronyx are already both in your party. Just what sets them apart from Pericci and Welch?
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* Why to Phia and T'nique require two remaining party slots instead of one each? That would make sense if that's still to reserve a space for one of the mandatory characters, but by the time you can recruit them, Millie and Ronyx are already both in your party. Just what sets them apart from Pericci and Welch?

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* Why to do Phia and T'nique require two remaining party slots instead of one each? That would make sense if that's still to reserve a space for one of the mandatory characters, but by the time you can recruit them, Millie and Ronyx are already both in your party. Just what sets them apart from Pericci and Welch?
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* Why to Phia and T'nique require two remaining party slots instead of one each? That would make sense if that's still to reserve a space for one of the mandatory characters, but by the time you can recruit them, Millie and Ronyx are already both in your party. Just what sets them apart from Pericci and Welch?
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* What makes the devs decide which foods restore HP or MP to either one character or the entire party? Why would something like a sandwich or a glass of juice work on everyone at a time, while entire pies, cakes, and pizzas can only be consumed by one person each?



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** As far as I remember in the PSP version, he basically says he takes care of the animals and wants to fight against the Ten Wise Men as well.
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** Actually, in an encyclopedia entry in SO3, it's stated that Expellians periodically have 'throwback' children to their older DNA - Leon is an example of this. In 'modern' times in SO3, it's required that Expellians have DNA tests done to ensure this won't happen again.

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** Actually, in an encyclopedia entry in SO3, [=SO3=], it's stated that Expellians periodically have 'throwback' children to their older DNA - Leon is an example of this. In 'modern' times in SO3, [=SO3=], it's required that Expellians have DNA tests done to ensure this won't happen again.
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* The ending to the fourth game. ThisTroper was incredibly disappointed to learn that by "multiple endings" the game means you just unlock solo endings for every character.

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* The ending to the fourth game. ThisTroper I was incredibly disappointed to learn that by "multiple endings" the game means you just unlock solo endings for every character.
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* Till the End of Time's communicator is REALLY bizarre. 1: The Symbology and Runology are the EXACT SAME THING and it can't translate the term? If it can't translate technical terms and just used as is then it has the problem of the suffix being the same despite the independent languages. 2:How is Nel eavesdropping supposed to work? It can't be making everyone in an area understand eachother, because then Fayt could understand the elf girl because of Norton (if he doesn't have one it raises two separate issues in speaking whatever language Federation speaks and having no way to issue the demands he is said to make) and Cliff's.
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*** The player even gets to talk to such an Expellian in the third game's opening sequence. Aside from the long ears, he has Noel's face and he's shown healing people.
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** Probably a creative way of saying she'll shoot them full of holes.
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* Star Ocean: The Second Story (PSX): One of Opera's quotes to start combatis, , "I'll turn you into a beehive!" What does it mean? Is this a common idiom in Japan, or just a weird turn of phrase from the translators?
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* Star Ocean: The Second Story (PSX) - one of the first pieces of information that we get from Noel is that he used to be a partisan of the Ten Wise Men. Aside from the fact that it's very odd for someone to say that to a group of total strangers ("Hi, random strangers in my house! I used to support my planet's greatest enemies! How are you today?") the game never offers any clarification; it never even brings it up again. What does it mean? How can he be a supporter of people he never would've had the opportunity to meet, since they had only recently returned to Nede? Does the PSP localization shed any light on this?

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\n** I agree to an extent, but at the same time... it's hard to do much with Dr. Lantis, considering that he's been dead for a very long time in the game. All we get about him is from the various versions of Nede's history, and from what tiny bits we can glean from Gabriel(/Indalecio) and Phillia. And yes, those two are supposed to be personality-copies of Lantis and his daughter, respectively, but we don't know how faithful those copies are, or how much they might've had to be changed to be able to be implanted in the bodies of what are essentially Heraldic supermen, or even how much Lantis's personality could've changed after years of wandering the galaxy searching for a way to take revenge. It would have been nice if the game had shown some flashbacks or something, though - maybe acted out portions of the Secret Files instead of having them just be words on a screen.

* Star Ocean: The Second Story (PSX) - one of the first pieces of information that we get from Noel is that he used to be a partisan of the Ten Wise Men. Aside from the fact that it's very odd for someone to say that to a group of total strangers ("Hi, random strangers in my house! I used to support my planet's greatest enemies! How are you today?") the game never offers any clarification; it never even brings it up again. What does it mean? How can he be a supporter of people he never would've had the opportunity to meet, since they had only recently returned to Nede? Nede - especially considering that the Wise Men's entire agenda was to destroy Nede, with no real political justification given? Does the PSP localization shed any light on this?
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* Star Ocean: The Second Story (PSX) - one of the first pieces of information that we get from Noel is that he used to be a partisan of the Ten Wise Men. Aside from the fact that it's very odd for someone to say that to a group of total strangers ("Hi, random strangers in my house! I used to support my planet's greatest enemies! How are you today?") the game never offers any clarification; it never even brings it up again. What does it mean? How can he be a supporter of people he never would've had the opportunity to meet, since they had only recently returned to Nede? Does the PSP localization shed any light on this?
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* If the Star Ocean universe is just a MMORPG for the 4D players, how can all the [=PCs=] stay in character so seamlessly that the sentinent NPCs don't suspect anything?
** They probably keep all out of character dialogue to a separate chat feature which the NPCs don't have access to

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* If the Star Ocean universe is just a MMORPG for the 4D players, how can all the [=PCs=] stay in character so seamlessly that the sentinent NPCs [=NPCs=] don't suspect anything?
** They probably keep all out of character dialogue to a separate chat feature which the NPCs [=NPCs=] don't have access to
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** It was always my impression that you aren't a 4D PC, but that you were actually playing one of the actual denizens of the Eternal Sphere Artificial Universe. Then again, the first two games were slightly altered to fit the third's revelation, and even then it's still almost played as you being an ES NPC living their actual virtual lives rather than a player. Though Till The End of Time did imply that that universe exists seperate and Eternal Sphere is more or less interacting with it, not exactly causing it's existence.

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** It was always my impression that you aren't a 4D PC, but that you were actually playing one of the actual denizens of the Eternal Sphere Artificial Universe. Then again, the first two games were slightly altered to fit the third's revelation, and even then it's still almost played as you being an ES NPC living their actual virtual lives rather than a player. [[spoiler: I will admit that Welch's interactions do bring up the argument of you being a player, somewhat; she could be just more in touch with the actual form of the universe, as in not a mere game, as well..]] Though Till The End of Time did imply that that universe exists seperate and Eternal Sphere is more or less interacting with it, not exactly causing it's existence.
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** It was always my impression that you aren't a 4D PC, but that you were actually playing one of the actual denizens of the Eternal Sphere Artificial Universe. Then again, the first two games were slightly altered to fit the third's revelation, and even then it's still almost played as you being an ES NPC living their actual virtual lives rather than a player. Though Till The End of Time did imply that that universe exists seperate and Eternal Sphere is more or less interacting with it, not exactly causing it's existence.
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** It should also be noted that the first two games were never made ''with'' the third's plot twist in mind.
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** Well, I'm glad Mr. Noone cared to comment, at least.
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* If the Star Ocean universe is just a MMORPG for the 4D players, how can all the PCs stay in character so seamlessly that the sentinent NPCs don't suspect anything?

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* If the Star Ocean universe is just a MMORPG for the 4D players, how can all the PCs [=PCs=] stay in character so seamlessly that the sentinent NPCs don't suspect anything?



**** Nah. Jerks, lunatics, power-mad people... there is no end to the possible inadequately prepared PCs. Remember, in as truly immersive and complete an MMO as the Star Ocean 'verse, someone who wasn't good enough would probably be locked up in a loony bin or arrested by police.

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**** Nah. Jerks, lunatics, power-mad people... there is no end to the possible inadequately prepared PCs.[=PCs=]. Remember, in as truly immersive and complete an MMO as the Star Ocean 'verse, someone who wasn't good enough would probably be locked up in a loony bin or arrested by police.



**** It's also possible that the players you control (Edge, Claude, Roddick, and Fayt...well, maybe not Fayt) are themselves PCs. If you think about it in a meta-sort of way, you're the player, they're the player character. To really break your brain, assume that everyone you meet in the game is a PC and ''doesn't know it'', since the MMO features like OOC chat and such are beyond their ability to perceive.

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**** It's also possible that the players you control (Edge, Claude, Roddick, and Fayt...well, maybe not Fayt) are themselves PCs.[=PCs=]. If you think about it in a meta-sort of way, you're the player, they're the player character. To really break your brain, assume that everyone you meet in the game is a PC and ''doesn't know it'', since the MMO features like OOC chat and such are beyond their ability to perceive.
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** Judging by what the other Morphus women wear as normal clothes Myuria isn't so out of place. It's like the difference between a t-shirt and jeans and a tank top and and shorts.

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