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It's pretty strange that Sophitia is the ''only'' woman that's married. It wasn't unusual for girls to be married at age 15/16 (around Talim's age), and girls like Cassandra and Seung Mina would be considered ChristmasCake material...
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It's pretty strange that Sophitia is the ''only'' woman that's married. It wasn't unusual for girls to be married at age 15/16 (around Talim's age), and girls like Cassandra and Seung Mina would be considered ChristmasCake OldMaid material...
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't Website/TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself ActingForTwo not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't Website/TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Just ''who'' is the Third brother of the Halteese family? Halphas and Demuth were confirmed, but nothing on the third; some people speculate either Yufeng or Kureha (though there's no actual proof nor any dialogue that hints at it), but could it have been actually been a sister they had? Maybe Mooncalf?
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* Just ''who'' is the Third brother of the Halteese family? Halphas and Demuth were confirmed, but nothing on the third; some people speculate either Yufeng or Kureha (though there's no actual proof nor any dialogue that hints at it), but could it have been actually been a sister they had? Maybe Mooncalf?Mooncalf?
!What point in the Tekken timeline is Heihachi from?
He references his son and one of the two Kumas but he has his post Tekken 2 grey hair.
!What point in the Tekken timeline is Heihachi from?
He references his son and one of the two Kumas but he has his post Tekken 2 grey hair.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't Wiki/TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't Wiki/TVTropes Website/TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Cervantes and Xianghua are far from Yandere material. As for your question... dunno. I get the feeling that Siegfried as Nightmare was probably the most successful host Soul Edge has had to date (Siegfried ''did'' best Inferno in combat back in ''Soul Edge'', after all). Resuming the form of his most recent host was probably the best way to go for Inferno, considering how notorious and feared the Azure Knight was (to the point that stories of him stretched all the way from Western Europe to Japan). It could also very well be psychological warfare against the one who escaped his grasp. At any rate, it's no less weird than the FoeYay the two soul swords ''themselves'' have going on, which probably is the strangest implication of BrotherSisterIncest I've ever seen in fiction.
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* Cervantes and Xianghua are far from Yandere material. As for your question... dunno. I get the feeling that Siegfried as Nightmare was probably the most successful host Soul Edge has had to date (Siegfried ''did'' best Inferno in combat back in ''Soul Edge'', after all). Resuming the form of his most recent host was probably the best way to go for Inferno, considering how notorious and feared the Azure Knight was (to the point that stories of him stretched all the way from Western Europe to Japan). It could also very well be psychological warfare against the one who escaped his grasp. At any rate, it's no less weird than the FoeYay sexual tension the two soul swords ''themselves'' have going on, which probably is the strangest implication of BrotherSisterIncest I've ever seen in fiction.
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** I honestly don't see any FoeYay between Inferno/Soul Edge and Elysium/Soul Calibur, if that's indeed who Elysium is. Looking back, I see now that Inferno used Siegfried's Nightmare armour as a proxy host after Soul Edge was taken by Siegfried in III as there was nothing else there to possess. Cervantes was very much obsessed with reclaiming Soul Edge prior to V, although his obsession doesn't really qualify as {{Yandere}}. I guess that narrows it down to Sigfried x Nightmare. Tira's still yandere, she's just not impressed with Nightmare [[TaughtByExperience learning from his mistakes]] and employing subterfuge, and has decided that a [[LesYay female Nightmare works just as well]].
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** I honestly don't see any FoeYay sexual tension between Inferno/Soul Edge and Elysium/Soul Calibur, if that's indeed who Elysium is. Looking back, I see now that Inferno used Siegfried's Nightmare armour as a proxy host after Soul Edge was taken by Siegfried in III as there was nothing else there to possess. Cervantes was very much obsessed with reclaiming Soul Edge prior to V, although his obsession doesn't really qualify as {{Yandere}}. I guess that narrows it down to Sigfried x Nightmare. Tira's still yandere, she's just not impressed with Nightmare [[TaughtByExperience learning from his mistakes]] and employing subterfuge, and has decided that a [[LesYay female Nightmare works just as well]].
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* Was there at ''all'' any hints about the Maletta Kingdom? That faction came right out of left field...
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I mean, there's so much craziness with them in particular, and this includes the kingdom that deviated from it, the Maletta.
* Was there at ''all'' any hints about the MalettaKingdom? Kingdom's existence? That faction came right out of left field...
* Was there at ''all'' any hints about the Maletta
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* Was there at ''all' any hints about the Maletta Kingdom? That faction came right out of left field...
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* Was there at ''all' ''all'' any hints about the Maletta Kingdom? That faction came right out of left field...
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* Its a silly crossover. We're not supposed to worry about it. But if you really need an explanation, maybe the magic of the two swords is an adequate substitute.
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* Its a silly crossover. We're not supposed to worry about it. But if you really need an explanation, maybe the magic of the two swords is an adequate substitute.substitute.
!So...about Chronicles of the Sword's backstory regarding the Halteese
*Was there at ''all' any hints about the Maletta Kingdom? That faction came right out of left field...
*Just ''who'' is the Third brother of the Halteese family? Halphas and Demuth were confirmed, but nothing on the third; some people speculate either Yufeng or Kureha (though there's no actual proof nor any dialogue that hints at it), but could it have been actually been a sister they had? Maybe Mooncalf?
!So...about Chronicles of the Sword's backstory regarding the Halteese
*Was there at ''all' any hints about the Maletta Kingdom? That faction came right out of left field...
*Just ''who'' is the Third brother of the Halteese family? Halphas and Demuth were confirmed, but nothing on the third; some people speculate either Yufeng or Kureha (though there's no actual proof nor any dialogue that hints at it), but could it have been actually been a sister they had? Maybe Mooncalf?
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!The Force holds the galaxy seen in ''Film/StarWars'' together.
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!The Force holds the galaxy seen in ''Film/StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' together.
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** Oh, hey. This troper saw a fanfic once that consisted of this exchange, an awkward silence, and then Mitsurugi being all "yes, that's what I just ''said''. [[YouFailLogicForever Do you realize how stupid that sounds?]]" and ranting for several paragraphs about it. It was amazing.
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** Oh, hey. This troper saw a fanfic once that consisted of this exchange, an awkward silence, and then Mitsurugi being all "yes, that's what I just ''said''. [[YouFailLogicForever [[LogicalFallacies Do you realize how stupid that sounds?]]" and ranting for several paragraphs about it. It was amazing.
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So when interacting with beings outside of that galaxy that don't originate from that galaxy, why does the force still work? It should be useless.
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So when interacting with beings outside of that galaxy that don't originate from that galaxy, why does the force still work? It should be useless.useless.
* Its a silly crossover. We're not supposed to worry about it. But if you really need an explanation, maybe the magic of the two swords is an adequate substitute.
* Its a silly crossover. We're not supposed to worry about it. But if you really need an explanation, maybe the magic of the two swords is an adequate substitute.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't TVTropes Wiki/TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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** At this point in the series, I'm afraid that the story is something the producers [[TheyJustDidntCare just don't care anymore.]] Which is sad, because Soul Calibur [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot used to have some of the best stories ever for a fighting game]].
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** At this point in the series, I'm afraid that the story is something the producers [[TheyJustDidntCare just don't care anymore.]] anymore. Which is sad, because Soul Calibur [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot used to have some of the best stories ever for a fighting game]].
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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* Okay, so I did not watch the whole story mode yet, but I did watch the end and the credits. Suddenly, so much gets confirmed based on what I assume is the the voice actor list in the credits. Viola is suddenly Amy based on the fact that they share both English and Japanese VA's (which was known way before story mode was leaked) and Nightmare is using Raphael's body because they share the same seiyuu. This is where I get confused. Popular theory aside, does the trope, TalkingToYourself not apply? Not to mention that while they specified who played who in Japanese, but they only specified RogerCraigSmith Creator/RogerCraigSmith as Ezio. The other English VS's are just mentioned in alphabetical order without saying who they voiced. Nightmare in particular is going back and forth between Creator/PatrickSeitz and Charles Rubendall. Some VA's also seem to be outright ''missing'', like how the general consensus says that Creator/LauraBailey is Pyrrha, but she appears to be either missing from the credits or played by someone else. Is this all being assumed based on the VA list or am I making the wrong assumptions and missed something? Also, is there anywhere I can find a confirmed VA list? I apologize for this wall of text. I just don't TVTropes to be giving out {{fanon}} as fact.
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** She's also a ManificentBitch because ''she'' was the mastermind for Team Soul Edge in IV, not Nightmare. Even as early as III, she chooses to join forces with Nightmare and afterwards spends a great deal of time manipulating dangerous or well-meaning people to do what she wants. She takes Astaroth and Cervantes, who should be huge threats to her master since they want the sword for themselves, and aims them at other people to make Nightmare too strong for either to defeat. She takes Sophitia, one of the most unambiguously good characters in the series, and tricks her into leaving her family unprotected so that she can take Pyrrha as a host for Soul Edge and then blackmail Sophie, one of the sword's most deadly enemies, into protecting it! Tira's crazy when she's in battle, but she earned the title by being able to manipulate many people a good deal more powerful than her to serve her own ends, nearly wins in both IV and V (and gets away scott-free both times when the good guys manage to avert her goal), and is generally a more dynamic and wily villain than Nightmare, even with Dumas starting to catch up. Add in that she's remarkably stylish while doing all this and manages to get around SanityHasAdvantages, and she fits the criteria better than a ''number'' of examples on the page.
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** She's also a ManificentBitch MagnificentBitch because ''she'' was the mastermind for Team Soul Edge in IV, not Nightmare. Even as early as III, she chooses to join forces with Nightmare and afterwards spends a great deal of time manipulating dangerous or well-meaning people to do what she wants. She takes Astaroth and Cervantes, who should be huge threats to her master since they want the sword for themselves, and aims them at other people to make Nightmare too strong for either to defeat. She takes Sophitia, one of the most unambiguously good characters in the series, and tricks her into leaving her family unprotected so that she can take Pyrrha as a host for Soul Edge and then blackmail Sophie, one of the sword's most deadly enemies, into protecting it! Tira's crazy when she's in battle, but she earned the title by being able to manipulate many people a good deal more powerful than her to serve her own ends, nearly wins in both IV and V (and gets away scott-free both times when the good guys manage to avert her goal), and is generally a more dynamic and wily villain than Nightmare, even with Dumas starting to catch up. Add in that she's remarkably stylish while doing all this and manages to get around SanityHasAdvantages, and she fits the criteria better than a ''number'' of examples on the page.
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