History Headscratchers / JusticeLeague

*** The fact that he was alone toward the end (Alfred presumably dead, Robin gone after the events of ''[[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker RotJ]]'', Barbara apparently going into normal police work) probably contributed, both by increasing his emotional dysfunctions and by depriving him of the people who might have been able to get through to him and convince him to take better care of himself.

* What's going to prevent Ray from recreating his world after he wakes up?
** [[KilledOffForReal He's not waking up.]]
* Tom Turbine says that he hasn't been able to find an energy source to power up his interdimensional machine. Did he never think to ask Green Guardsman to use his energy beams? They're pretty similar to GL's, whose powers were able to power up the machine in the end.

* Why is Bonk still alive when Chronos returns to his time and recruits the Jokerz? Terry recognizing the Jokers in this episode suggests that the events of the episode take place after ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' and Bonk was killed in that movie, and in both the edited and uncut versions, to be precise.

* Is Carter Hall a Thanagarian? Where did he get the wings from? How come Shayera calls him a human? Haven’t watched the follow up Ancient History yet

* I can understand each member of the team and why they are needed. Flagg has to be the leader, Clock King is the one who has to organise the timing of the mission, Platique arms the explosives and Deadshot is needed in case things go wrong and can adept and overcome in a tight situtaion. What's Boomerang's purpose other than being the only sane man in the group?

** Getting blown up won't kill Clayface. He was in oieces when they found him in the first place. The show never acted like he died, they just chose to stop using him (probably because he's so hard to put down in a non-lethal way that wouldn't get repetetive)

[[folder: "Flash and Substance"]]
* Alright, someone spell it out for me like the child I am. How was Linda Park's GettingCrapPastTheRadar moment a GettingCrapPastTheRadar moment?
** I suppose it was meant that her comment to Flash being like "the entire track team at once" was a reference to multiple-partner sex.
* When Flash is facing the Mirror Master's hologram in the abandoned disco, he uses a disc from a blown-up machine to sever the wires holding up the disco ball that's firing lasers at him. There are other lights that have been activated in the disco, but Flash didn't sever any of them - yet, as he's walking out of the disco afterwards, one of those lights (not the disco ball, which has already fallen and been smashed) drops to the ground. So...why exactly did the light fall, since Flash didn't tamper with it and there was no damage done to any of the lights?
** Sometimes a structural failure is just a structural failure.
** Yeah, the place is clearly old and abandoned. It's no surprise things start falling down once a superhero fight starts up inside.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: "Fury"]]
* Not really something that gets on my nerves a great deal, but...how come the allergen affects J'onn? I mean, I know it's targeted at males, but he's an alien. For that matter, so's Superman. Though since it was never really explained how it works, it could work on even alien males, and I'm probably mildly confused for nothing. Ah, well.
** Given that Aresia made it using Earth-based germ warfare knowledge, it should just be targeting the Y chromosome. Since both Kryptonians and Martians are two-gender species, it stands to reason they might have similar genetic structures, at least where HollywoodScience is concerned.
*** Of course most two-gendered species on planet Earth don't have X-Y chromosome distinction, either...AWizardDidIt.
** Also, the fact that one of the ingredients is apparently gemstone dust suggests there may be a magical element involved.
*** Maybe the magical element of it curses anyone who identifies themselves with the male gender? Of course, this includes females who identify with being male, but "[[SarcasmMode any female who identifies with the male mindset is an abnormality that must be remedied]]".
*** If you're crazy enough to try and kill every man on the planet, yes, identify-as-male-females need to go too.
*** You guys are all over-thinking this. The scientific definition of a male refers to organisms with the physiological sex which produces sperm. The scientific definition of a female refers to the physiological sex of an organism, or a part of an organism, which produces non-mobile ova (egg cells). We know that Kryptonians and Martians reproduce in a similar way to humans - its a very simple definition a magical virus would be able to make.
*** Your "scientific definition of male" only applies to Earth organisms. There is no reason to assume an alien species would work the same way, even if their biology seems superficially similar. And for the record, we ''don't'' actually know if Kryptonians and Martians reproduce in a similar way to humans. Did we ever see a Kryptonian or a Martian couple conceive an offspring and give birth? For all we know, Kryptonians could reproduce through airborne spores and Martians could reproduce by budding.
*** Airborne spores? So, Superman could accidentally knock up Supergirl just by sneezing at her?
*** You're over simplifying, you could compare fish reproduction to a cloud of genetic material but no one says they just accidentally shoot off the stuff at random.
*** There is no reason to assume they ''wouldn't'' work the same way either.
* Did Star Sapphire and Tsukuri temporarily take leave of their senses? At least Aresia had suffered a great deal, didn't realize just how interconnected the world is and had been apparently brought up on a strong anti-male message, those two had no excuse. Did they not notice the large numbers of planes, cars, trucks and trains crashing in the first few minutes of the plan? Did they not stop to realize that they could reasonably expect a total collapse of society, especially in regions with far fewer women trained in business, politics, engineering, farming, criminal justice and medicine? That's not even getting into the blatantly obvious problem of how exactly humanity was supposed to survive another generation.
** You got me. Maybe Aresia promised to teach them how to make babies in a more literal fashion the way Hippolyta made Wonder Woman. Assuming Aresia did the research on human interconnectedness, but since ''Wonder Woman'' implicitly didn't know exactly what made the continued existence of men so important, she probably didn't either, so if then, SS and Tsuruki have no excuse.
** Perhaps the "allergen" she released didn't affect frozen sperm, so she was figuring that society could be rebuilt after a generation, with men treated as chattel? Yes, there would surely be incredible suffering even among their own gender, but Aresia is a KnightTemplar, and the other two are most likely sociopaths.
** Not sure about Tsukuri, but isn't Star Sapphire an alien? Doesn't she have pretty much the same powers as GL? Presumably if she wants to be around men again she could just go to another planet.
*** According to promo materials and WordOfGod, the Star Sapphire in the series is Carol Ferris, so she's about as much an alien as Kyle Rayner, John Stewart, and Hal Jordan: In other words, her powers came from aliens, but she herself isn't not one.
** Maybe they just hate men too and don't care what happens to society as long as men are completely wiped out? Or maybe they are just happy to commit {{Gendercide}} ForTheEvulz.
** What I want to know is, if Sapphire really wanted to go along with a plan that would wipe out Hal Jordan, then just what is her gem's power being fueled by?
** Ignoring that there's no Hal Jordan in the DCAU (reality warping in "The Once And Future Thing" aside), this episode aired before the RetCon in the comics which made Star Sapphire's powers the result of a ring that was powered by Love as the Green Lantern rings are powered by Willpower. The short version is that Carol Ferris became possessed by an alien crystal containing the personality of a man-hating alien queen. Presumably the DCAU version of Star Sapphire would also be in favor of a plan that kills as many men as possible.
* Just been thinking about this and wondered if anyone had a different opinion: Suppose Aresia actually did succeed in wiping out all male life on the planet. Then what? Does she suppose she'll educate all women in her skewed version of Amazon culture? Does she think Hera will bless all females with eternal life, eliminating the need to give birth ever again?
** Given that she was willing to literally murder half the human race, she's obviously very unhinged. It's entirely possible that she had absolutely no plan for what would happen after all the men were wiped out.
** It's the DC Universe, they have magic at their disposal. Sure, Dr. Fate must have been a victim too, but they still have Inza and Zatanna. They can surely find a magical way to produce new babies. Solved that problem, the only-women society can work, all areas of human society have female presence, so after the transition everything should go back to normal. Yes, all areas of human society can work without men if needed... [[AllWomenAreLustful except one]]. Some centuries pass, Earth becomes the Amazon world, with men being just an old myth... and [[WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}} the crew of a delivery business and a pompous general]] crash into the planet, and the voice soon spreads out that they can be used for "snu snu".
*** "all areas of human society can work without men if needed."
Actually, it is vice versa. Of course, they can not. Males are better objectively at everything except those activities in which females are specifically better. But examples of such activities are unknown.
The fact that human society has human males in the frst place, already proves that female society wouldn't survive without them. Besides, males (at least in human world) are smarter, bigger and simply overall better, than females! Women wouldn't be able to survive and which is more importantly, they wouldn't be able to take actions necessary to survive, because they are not that good at certain activities as males are!
** And there was a completely different outcome of the invasion of Thanagar here. It would be more or less like...
---->'''Hro Talak:''' Listen, peoples of Earth! We are the Thanagarians! You will now help us to build a giant cannon to destroy our mortal enemies, the Gordanians!
---->'''Super Girl:''' Yes, yes, whatever. I heard that Hawkmen can be used for Snu-Snu!
** To the person who said the all woman society could work, this troper disagrees. The DCAU universe isn't as well off as the main comic continuity. Not to mention, it would have only been a mater of time before the women who aren't complete feminazis took Aresia out. Wonder Woman, Shayera, Zatanna, Vixen, Barda, etc. All extremely powerful females who wouldn't take too kindly to Aresia's views, she wouldn't even be living long in such a world. Also, I wouldn't put it past a female magic user to go back in time and stop it from ever even happening, by just the barest moment.
*** Not to mention that "work" is a highly subjective term. Could the human race ''survive'' if all the men died out and the women of Earth used magic and comic book superscience to reproduce artificially? Maybe. But it wouldn't be pretty. While the above troper is technically correct that all areas of society have a female presence, the ratio of men-to-women in certain professions is still very one-sided. The United States is among the most progressive countries in the world in terms of gender roles, yet there are still many vital professions that are very male-dominated. Farming, engineering, medicine, and so on are all heavily male-dominated professions. If all those male farmers, engineers, and doctors died out overnight the world would be plunged into chaos as the few women who work in those fields today struggle to pick up the slack. It would take many years for enough women to be trained to replace those dead men, and in the mean time the world would suffer an extreme shortage of farmers, engineers, doctors, and other vital skilled professionals we rely on to maintain a functioning society. Millions upon millions of innocent women would die of cold and hunger alone in the aftermath of Aresia's gendercide.
** Insanity aside, her only knowledge of men comes from a childhood in a war-torn country and a brief encounter with some pirates, plus whatever misandrist propaganda Hippolyta fed her. She lives in a society of immortals in a pop-culture version of ancient Greek culture who forbid outsiders or even knowledge of the outside world. It's a safe bet she has no idea how the outside world works, and probably just assumed that once she killed all males things would immediately improve and the women of the world would thank her.
** Star Sapphire and Tsukuri may simply have not thought it through. Sapphire has a magic gem that makes whatever she wants and has still resorted to petty crime. Tsukuri...maybe she's good at killing things but not too smart or insightful otherwise? No, they're ''both'' aliens who will leave Earth after getting whatever Aresia's paying them, that's it.
* Forget all that other stuff; what I really wanna know is how Batman who, may I remind you, is only human managed to resist the effects of the male plague for as long as he did! That disease took down Superman in seconds and the rest of the male members of the Justice League not long after. How in hell did Batman, then, not succumb to the effects of the plague until later on, after he saved that little boy and the bus driver who had collapsed at the wheel?
** Batman's got several villains whose [=MOs=] include variations on the theme of poison gas. He's probably either built up significant resistance to toxins in general, regularly gives himself some kind of antitoxin cocktail, or both.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Morality in "Dead Reckoning"]]
** It's apparently an absolutely horrible thing that at the end Deadman was forced to take a life to save Wonder Woman. Why? Was he expected to just stand there and watch? What would ''that'' have done to the monks' precious 'balance'? And if it's terrible that he used Batman's body to do it (which isn't what the monks and that goddess focus on) then again, what was he supposed to do? If the show wanted to send a message about how heroes shouldn't kill, then why did they force in a situation that was morally ambiguous at most?
*** Might be a SpaceWhaleAesop: the dead should not kill the living. [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Would set a dangerous precedent]].
*** Well he could have possessed Wonder Woman and parried the shot with those bracers of hers...
** Where is it ever said that it was an "absolutely horrible thing" that Deadman killed him? ''Batman'' didn't like it, but Batman is pathologically against killing and using guns in general, and it was his hand that did the killing, even if he wasn't in control. As for the monks and the goddess, well, they're supposed to be ideal pacifists. There were other things he could've done--had Batman shout a warning to the super-fast woman who can block it with her bracers, for instance.
** A bullet would kill Wonder Woman? Remember when she beat Superman in a fist fight. (Okay, he gave up after he realized they had been tricked into fighting but that was only after she hit him in a way that brought up his reflection. Would a handgun even ''hurt'' her?
*** Yes. She's ridiculously tough, but ordinary attacks can hurt her. She's even been shot (once).
*** There's a reason that she blocks incoming bullets with her bracelets instead of just tanking them.
*** Not to mention that Superman stopped fighting Wonder Woman long before "she hit him in a way that brought up his reflection". As soon as he realized his opponent was Diana, he stopped fighting back and tried to talk some sense into her to no avail.
** Out of universe, the reason for that was probably so they could use Deadman again despite the episode implying he was about to get absolution. In universe, the league for one didn't know the context of the situation. They just assumed Deadman possessed Batman and killed in cold blooded revenge. And has said above, the spirits are absolute pacifists so his punishment is... maintaining the status quo so they could potentially use the character again.
*** That doesn't explain the goddess' reasoning.
[[/folder]]

* Prior to Justice League, why didn't Lex take preventive measures to avoid getting cancer from the Kryptonite he's always carrying around? He had to have known about Kryptonite poisoning, especially after the reveal that all the owners of the Kryptonite dragon statue in WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries died from it.
** The crossover said all the owners ''died mysteriously'', not that they died of cancer specifically. Lex would have written that off as superstition -- if he'd even been told it in the first place. Lex has nothing to do with the dragon statue or the theft. Grabbing it was all Joker's idea and plot.
** Also, Luthor's disdain for Superman as an "alien" may have inclined him to take a black-and-white view of Kryptonite as "harmless to humans, deadly to Superman"[[note]]In fact, he said just that when the doctor told him what was wrong.[[/note]] without thinking it through properly and considering the possibility that it's harmless to humans ''in the short term'', but ultimately just as dangerous as any mundane form of radiation.

* In This Little Piggy, why was Batman opposed to the League learning about the Wonder Pig ordeal?
** Because it was embarrassing and he didn't want to disrespect Dianas' privacy in case ''she'' didn't want anyone to know.

* What was General Eiling trying to a accomplish by becoming a superstrong monster? According to him, he wanted to show the league that they're no longer the only ones with superpowers. Um, what? Did he really expect the League to feel threatened by a single metahuman?
** Yes. Eiling is both very arrogant and also living in a bubble- he really thinks that the United States government and the United States military are and should be the biggest stick in town and represent the best of humanity, and his ego can't take the fact that the global superpower he signed up to fight for has been superseded by the Justice League. His plan was to fight Superman and beat the crap out of him to show them all that humanity (read- America; read-Eiling himself) should still be taken seriously and can't be easily bossed around or dismissed. Bare in mind this was a desperation move on his part in response to Cadmus voluntarily shutting itself down and Waller come to agree with the League- becoming a monster wasn't exactly Plan A; it was a last-ditched effort to make a point or die trying.
** His plan was to make himself 'Captain America' the results were a (more) corrupted 'Hulk'

* In "Grudge Match", if her participation on Meta-Brawl made Black Canary so exhausted that she couldn't beat a wallet thief, how did she manage keep her title as the undefeated champion at the Glamor Slam, even against superpowered opponents?
** Because the mind control forced her to use whatever strength she had on the brawls, the other opponents are likely similarily exhausted, and she has powers too so if she starts losing she just blasts them with the Canary Cry and down most of them will go.

[[folder:Grodd's Plan]]
* Why on mighty Highfather made Grodd think that turning the entire planet into apes would have been a good thing?
** Because that vast majority of Earth is designed to function for people with human proportions. Turning everyone into apes would plunge the world into easily exploited chaos while also providing a more appealing world to rule for Grodd.
** I feel like Grodd's plan was meant to be intentionally played as a kind of cliche 'dumb' villian plot. It's the same as when a some 80s old school villain wants to destroy the world despite there being no obvious benefit for them because the show doesn't acknowledge the real world consequences or offer any real explanation. As for in-show reasons, I'm guessing Grodd just would prefer to rule apes rather than humans. I mean, he made Luthor steal the Spear of Longinus simply because he thought it would 'look good' in his office, so he's kinda flippant.
[[/folder]]

* Okay, we all remember Superman's WorldOfCardBoardSpeech, and yes it was awesome. But there, he claims to be going all out against Darkseid for the first time. Then why didn't he mop the floor with Darkseid in "Twilight"? It was obvious he was going to kill Darkseid if Batman hadn't interfered, so why didn't he use his true power there?

** Considering what was previously said, perhaps there are other circumstances in which the loop could be interrupted and come to an end. What happens if the house gets demolished? Perhaps that scares Chronos and Enid enough to stop fighting or in the worse of the cases, they die crushed or at the very least, Chronos' belt gets damaged, stopping the loop yet ruining David Clinton's chances to become Chronos.

** Batman knew that, if he just disabled the belt, Chronos could just fix it or build a new one. He also had no way of knowing who Cronos actually was, but he did know what his home time period was, because he'd been there. So, he set the belt to loop everything within a few feet of it when it's activated (you'll notice that the wife's voice was audible outside their home, but there was no time flash, so the rest of the universe isn't looping). Eventually someone would discover them, who would bring in the police, which would eventually bring in the future Justice League. They, in turn, would have instructions from present Batman about how to end the loop, how to permanently disable the belt, how to use the belt to fix someone who was [[PortalCut halfway in the area of effect]] (before disabling it), what to do if the belt [[CrazyPrepared turns out to have been stolen from aliens who want their tech back]], etc.

* In the episode ''The enemy below'' why are Superman and Wonderwoman affected by a drowning trap-thing when they were clearly fine with breathing underwater earlier. The two Johns need to concentrate to use their powers (although if this included breathing any martian would be in a bit of a pickle if he couldn't concentrate while on mars) but I didn't think the others did.
** Superman needs to breath as much as anyone else. Why do you think he always puts on a space suit when he's flying around outside the atmosphere? Ditto WonderWoman.

*** ^The above was actually confirmed in-universe; Waller explicitly states that she was looking for a couple that fit the psychological profile of Thomas and Martha Wayne. Remember, Waller was being ''very'' savvy, and had been around Cadmus enough to take psychology into account.

*** Two more possibilities for Hawk Girl. 1. Since Savage (ha ha ha) Earth appears to have a higher standard tech level than Earth, it may of been possible the Thangarians called it off as soon as they learned Earth wouldn't be as easy pickings. By the present, [[Darksied]] had tried to take over Earth only was stopped by Superman. If the people of Earth could hold back [[AGodIAm a God]], the Thangarians may never of made the plan to begin with. 2. Hawkgirl was found and... well... if you know what the Nazi's did to the Jews, just think what would of happened if they got there hands on an [[FridgeHorror ALIEN]].