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* How did Amy buy a bottle of wine for Vincent? Does she carry 19th-century French currency in her purse?
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*** The Doctor was very adamant about Amy remembering her parents in order to bring them back. If the Doctor closing the cracks brought back everyone who was eaten by the cracks except for the Doctor, he might as well not have bothered. This is probably FridgeHorror, actaully. Rory, the Doctor, and Amy's parents can't possibly be the only ones eaten by the cracks pre-Stonehenge but she didn't remember them to bring them back. The Angels were still gotten rid of that way.
** In the absence of an explanation from canon, I think there are two explanations for Flesh and Stone: (1) In the rebooted universe, the events of Flesh and Stone never happened due to the cracks never existing, the Doctor and his companions retain their memories of the event for some reason (eye of the storm, because they're time travelers or anomalies, echoes, timey-whimey ball, etc.), or (2) Thanks to Amy's memory, the crack events she's experienced happened in the rebooted universe as well, thus the rebooted universe is just like the old one minus Total Event Collapse, and the cracks are just time rifts leaking chronons (Which according to the video game at least can erase things from existence.).

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*** The Doctor was very adamant about Amy remembering her parents in order to bring them back. If the Doctor closing the cracks brought back everyone who was eaten by the cracks except for the Doctor, he might as well not have bothered. This is probably FridgeHorror, actaully.actually. Rory, the Doctor, and Amy's parents can't possibly be the only ones eaten by the cracks pre-Stonehenge but she didn't remember them to bring them back. The Angels were still gotten rid of that way.
** In the absence of an explanation from canon, I think there are two explanations for Flesh and Stone: (1) In the rebooted universe, the events of Flesh and Stone never happened due to the cracks never existing, the Doctor and his companions retain their memories of the event for some reason (eye of the storm, because they're time travelers travellers or anomalies, echoes, timey-whimey ball, etc.), or (2) Thanks to Amy's memory, the crack events she's experienced happened in the rebooted universe as well, thus the rebooted universe is just like the old one minus Total Event Collapse, and the cracks are just time rifts leaking chronons (Which according to the video game at least can erase things from existence.).



*** What it really boils down to is that, due to some of the events in previous seasons, the population of earth ''should'' be very jaded to things like the presence of aliens, Cyberman, attacking Daleks and other assorted whatnot. This can be a permanent scar on the 'Verse, so the whole time erasure thing actually gives them an excuse to make like it all never happened, while the relevant individuals can still remember all the relevant events when needed to. I'm under the impression that the Doctor, Time Lords in general and, for that matter, time travelers in general don't operate on a time line that actually ''tries'' to sync with the "real" timeline at all. In other words, the universe's timeline changes but time travelers don't alter their personal timeline to fit. This is probably part of what the Doctor means when he refers to himself as an extremely complex temporal event... he's the sum of a series of possible universes that ''never happened''.

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*** What it really boils down to is that, due to some of the events in previous seasons, the population of earth ''should'' be very jaded to things like the presence of aliens, Cyberman, attacking Daleks and other assorted whatnot. This can be a permanent scar on the 'Verse, so the whole time erasure thing actually gives them an excuse to make like it all never happened, while the relevant individuals can still remember all the relevant events when needed to. I'm under the impression that the Doctor, Time Lords in general and, for that matter, time travelers travellers in general don't operate on a time line that actually ''tries'' to sync with the "real" timeline at all. In other words, the universe's timeline changes but time travelers travellers don't alter their personal timeline to fit. This is probably part of what the Doctor means when he refers to himself as an extremely complex temporal event... he's the sum of a series of possible universes that ''never happened''.
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***** Not so; I'm not sure if it specifically stated so in the episode, but Expanded Universe establishes that the War Chief in the War Games was, in fact, a renegade Time Lord (Note: If you meet a renegade Time Lord, statistically, they're not friendly). The War Chief's SIDRATs were some form of cannibalized TARDIS. It's not that the Time Lords are the only ones who can build a Time Ship; they're the only ones that build TARDISes, that specific type of Time Ship. It is perfectly conceivable, however, that other civilizations get their hands on similar technology and create something similar to a TARDIS.

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***** Not so; I'm not sure if it specifically stated so in the episode, but Expanded Universe establishes that the War Chief in the War Games was, in fact, a renegade Time Lord (Note: If you meet a renegade Time Lord, statistically, they're not friendly). The War Chief's SIDRATs were some form of cannibalized TARDIS. It's not that the Time Lords are the only ones who can build a Time Ship; they're the only ones that build TARDISes, [=TARDISes=], that specific type of Time Ship. It is perfectly conceivable, however, that other civilizations get their hands on similar technology and create something similar to a TARDIS.



** The ship was a pseudo-TARDIS, right? Perhaps it self-destructed in a way similar to the way the TARDIS exploded. Only instead of creating cracks in time the way the Doctor's TARDIS did, it created a very small crack which it then fell in to, sealing it (and thereby erasing its history since the crash). Somewhat backed up by evidence from Flesh and Stone-- the Doctor tells River she wouldn't be enough to close the crack, and even all the Angels in the forest only closed it temporarily... but the Doctor (who is probably, by now, roughly an equal weight to the TARDIS in the space-time anomaly area) is enough to close it for good (IIRC). It would also explain how the Daleks were able to destroy TARDISes in the time war without destroying the universe-- they got sucked in to the resulting (much smaller) crack, along with their crews, and the crack got enough Wibbly Wobbly to seal itself with no further harm done.

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** The ship was a pseudo-TARDIS, right? Perhaps it self-destructed in a way similar to the way the TARDIS exploded. Only instead of creating cracks in time the way the Doctor's TARDIS did, it created a very small crack which it then fell in to, sealing it (and thereby erasing its history since the crash). Somewhat backed up by evidence from Flesh and Stone-- the Doctor tells River she wouldn't be enough to close the crack, and even all the Angels in the forest only closed it temporarily... but the Doctor (who is probably, by now, roughly an equal weight to the TARDIS in the space-time anomaly area) is enough to close it for good (IIRC). It would also explain how the Daleks were able to destroy TARDISes [=TARDISes=] in the time war without destroying the universe-- they got sucked in to the resulting (much smaller) crack, along with their crews, and the crack got enough Wibbly Wobbly to seal itself with no further harm done.
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********Yet another wonderful example of contradicting Doctor Who canon; the TARDIS was never considered to really be 'alive' in Classic Who; in a really early first Doctor episode, "The Edge of Destruction", the Doctor scoffs at the idea of a sentient TARDIS, and insists it's a machine. So... just ignore it.
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***** Not so; I'm not sure if it specifically stated so in the episode, but Expanded Universe establishes that the War Chief in the War Games was, in fact, a renegade Time Lord (Note: If you meet a renegade Time Lord, statistically, they're not friendly). The War Chief's SIDRATs were some form of cannibalized TARDIS. It's not that the Time Lords are the only ones who can build a Time Ship; they're the only ones that build TARDISes, that specific type of Time Ship. It is perfectly conceivable, however, that other civilizations get their hands on similar technology and create something similar to a TARDIS.
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*** One way to interpret the Doctor's "Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey, nonlinear time" explanation is that certain actions don't just affect events following that action, but previous events as well, especially when it has to do with a fixed point. A fixed point could be some major, universe-altering event(s), or an event a time traveler has prior knowledge of. Presumably, when the Doctor does something in the future, and then goes into the past, past events may have been altered to fit future events, or a fixed point.

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*** One way to interpret the Doctor's "Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey, nonlinear time" explanation is that certain actions don't just affect events following that action, but previous events as well, especially when it has to do with a fixed point. A point; when the Doctor says that most people assume that time is a "strict progression of cause-to-effect". Well, if it's not, then does that make it... effect-to-cause? If this is the logic that Time Lords understand time by, then it answers a lot of questions, including this one. Assume a fixed point could be some major, universe-altering event(s), or an event a time traveler has prior knowledge of. We've seen in "Waters of Mars" that time will rewrite itself if a the 'cause' part of the cause-and-effect sequence is altered. If the 'effect' part is altered, will time rewrite the cause? Presumably, when the Doctor does something in the future, and then goes into the past, past events may have been altered to fit future events, or a fixed point.
point. In "the beast below" scenario- (I really think that the Star Whale would have been mentioned in the history books at some point) the Doctor could have done something either in the past or the future- step on a butterfly, who knows?- that led to this completely new future where the countries of the world built their own starships and floated around for a bit. It sure does make time travel sound fun, though- you never wind up in the same future twice!
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** StableTimeLoop caused by the universe coming undone. The Doctor escaped from the Pandorica because he gave Rory the Sonic Screwdriver because Rory freed him from the Pandorica. There was no beginning of the loop, that he escaped to begin with is because time and space are collapsing and can't prevent such paradoxes from existing.

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** My theory: In ''Blink'' the Doctor explained that the 'sending you back in time' thing was a way for the Weeping Angels to feed on your potential energy. In ''The Time of Angels'', he claims the ones encountered on Earth were 'scavengers' who were barely squeaking by, and observes that the ones on Alfava Metraxis were feeding on the energy of the ship's drive core (and, as we later find out, on the Crack). They are also [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] who prey on people ForTheEvulz. In short: they snapped Bob's neck for his voice. Everyone else, they killed straight out because they didn't need to feed on them, they just liked killing people. On the other hand, is it actually established they snapped Octavian's neck instead of killing him in their usual fashion?

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** My theory: In ''Blink'' the Doctor explained that the 'sending you back in time' thing was a way for the Weeping Angels to feed on your potential energy. In ''The Time of Angels'', he claims the ones encountered on Earth were 'scavengers' who were barely squeaking by, and observes that the ones on Alfava Metraxis were feeding on the energy of the ship's drive core (and, as we later find out, on the Crack). They are also [[CompleteMonster Complete Monsters]] Monsters who prey on people ForTheEvulz. In short: they snapped Bob's neck for his voice. Everyone else, they killed straight out because they didn't need to feed on them, they just liked killing people. On the other hand, is it actually established they snapped Octavian's neck instead of killing him in their usual fashion?
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***One way to interpret the Doctor's "Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey, nonlinear time" explanation is that certain actions don't just affect events following that action, but previous events as well, especially when it has to do with a fixed point. A fixed point could be some major, universe-altering event(s), or an event a time traveler has prior knowledge of. Presumably, when the Doctor does something in the future, and then goes into the past, past events may have been altered to fit future events, or a fixed point.
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* I don't really understand when Amy recorded the video message to herself. Presumably it was after watching the video but before pressing Forget, but if people can record messages to themselves doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of pressing Forget? Or is the idea that it would be a propaganda-approved message like "I know you might be wondering why you chose to forget but trust me, it's for the best"?
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* The Doctor refers to the Silurians as ''Homo reptilius''. Uh, so they're primates who look reptilian? Shouldn't they be called something like ''Troodon sapiens''? Funny thing is that ''Series/RedDwarf'' got it right, referring to the Cat people as ''Felis sapiens''.
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** [[IncrediblyLamePun They fell through a quack in time.]]
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** Here's the one thing nobody remembers: anything a time traveler knows about becomes a fixed point. This is shown in Amy and Rory's last episode, along with "Waters of Mars". The Doctor purposely avoids knowing history, because the more history he knows, the more he can't change. Let's say The Doctor knew about Starship UK, but before he changed things. Let's say he knew, for example, everyone died. Bam. He can't do anything to change that now. This wasn't such an issue before the Time War, but afterwards, the Time Lords aren't there to iron out the cosmic, reality destroying bugs. Remember "Father's Day"? Rose caused a paradox by changing something she knew. By changing it, she couldn't have known it, and then it causes a loop of badness. Likewise, with "Waters of Mars", the paradox that 10 created was that he knew what happened, so by changing it, he never would have had cause to change it, causing her to die, meaning he'd have cause to change it, so she'd live, so he'd have no cause to change it, so she'd die, repeat ad infinitum. This is why The Doctor keeps himself uninformed. The more he knows, the worse it is.
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***** And, with the latter part of the Pond family's time in the TARDIS, he's had who knows how many adventures off screen. The same goes for Clara, since she doesn't just live in there with him. Perhaps 12 is already years old. It would fit with him switching from not being sure if he's a good man, while Clara saying that he tries to be and that's all that matters, to him in the next episode being completely certain he's not a good man. Perhaps between those episodes he committed genocide. Again.
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**** Well, he's never changed the theme with them in there. Maybe [[PowerPerversionPotential it does strip them]].

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**** My understanding was that it was matter of crack powering itself with all the (potentially) infinite mass, arton energy, all that stuff as well as the small singularity it would create, not just tardis boom=universe gone

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**** My understanding was that it was matter of crack powering itself with all the (potentially) infinite mass, arton energy, all that stuff as well as the small singularity it would create, not just tardis boom=universe gonegone.


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*** Plus, the Doctor's TARDIS was defective even before he stole it, and since then it's been through more abuse than any fifty other TARDISes. It's been to alternate realities, been reconfigured countless times, been hijacked even more, gotten refitted as a paradox device... it's amazing the old girl can still run ''at all'', let alone run safely.
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**** Fast enough that outfitting Spitfires with completely unfamiliar technology can be done faster than, say, Londoners all over the city could simply ''unplug the freakin' light bulbs'' that the Daleks are keeping lit?

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**** Fast enough that outfitting Spitfires with completely unfamiliar technology can be done faster than, say, Londoners all over the city could simply ''unplug ''break the freakin' light bulbs'' that the Daleks are keeping lit?
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**** Fast enough that outfitting Spitfires with completely unfamiliar technology can be done faster than, say, Londoners all over the city could simply ''unplug the freakin' light bulbs'' that the Daleks are keeping lit?



** Also remember that Amy didn't remember the whole stole the earth thing, because, as we find out, it never happened because of the cracks, so they wouldn't consider preventing it a paradox, since they didn't happen. As for how could they exist then if they escaped from the stole the earth thing, due to the cracks, not many things involving them makes sense: you know, Angels not existing, but no news of Octavian being alive, the stuff with penguins in Big Bang, etc. We don't even know what happened to Donna if the eath-stoling never happened, so the paradox thing is not that big a problem.

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** Also remember that Amy didn't remember the whole stole the earth thing, because, as we find out, it never happened because of the cracks, so they wouldn't consider preventing it a paradox, since they didn't happen. As for how could they exist then if they escaped from the stole the earth thing, due to the cracks, not many things involving them makes sense: you know, Angels not existing, but no news of Octavian being alive, the stuff with penguins in Big Bang, etc. We don't even know what happened to Donna if the eath-stoling Earth-stealing never happened, so the paradox thing is not that big a problem.
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* How did the Doctor escape the Pandorica the first time? He must have escaped so the cycle of him giving Rory the Sonic Screwdriver and Rory freeing him could begin.
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**** Agreed. People are erased, and the memory of them gone, but the effect they had is still there. Otherwise when Rory was erased the entire earth should have been retroactively destroyed, since it was his taking pictures with his phone that prevented the Atraxi from destroying it to kill Prisoner Zero. And when the Doctor was erased, we'd be looking at another TurnLeft scenario. Amy herself should never have been born if her parents weren't. The Doctor explicitly says that things are left behind (faces in photographs, half-eaten meals, luggage), so even an erased person leaves a mark on history.

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**** Agreed. People are erased, and the memory of them gone, but the effect they had is still there. Otherwise when Rory was erased the entire earth should have been retroactively destroyed, since it was his taking pictures with his phone that prevented the Atraxi from destroying it to kill Prisoner Zero. And when the Doctor was erased, we'd be looking at another TurnLeft [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E11TurnLeft "Turn Left"]] scenario. Amy herself should never have been born if her parents weren't. The Doctor explicitly says that things are left behind (faces in photographs, half-eaten meals, luggage), so even an erased person leaves a mark on history.



*** Don't the credits SAY she's Liz 10? Plus, that makes no sense. For what reason would the writers pull a [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime Verity Newman]] and use an identical descendant in this situation? Yes, the Doctor's probably friends with most of the royal family, but come on.

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*** Don't the credits SAY she's Liz 10? Plus, that makes no sense. For what reason would the writers pull a [[Recap/DoctorWhoNSS4E17E18TheEndOfTime [[Recap/DoctorWhoS30E17E18TheEndOfTime Verity Newman]] and use an identical descendant in this situation? Yes, the Doctor's probably friends with most of the royal family, but come on.
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*** And, we're talking WW2. My Grandad (who built aircraft) used to tell stories of them flying bombers down to the airfields with the engineers finishing building the aircraft ''while in flight''. If the Spitfires were in a state that could reach space, they'd have flown them.

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*** And, we're talking WW2.UsefulNotes/WW2. My Grandad (who built aircraft) used to tell stories of them flying bombers down to the airfields with the engineers finishing building the aircraft ''while in flight''. If the Spitfires were in a state that could reach space, they'd have flown them.



** The Doctor got rid of all the technology that shouldn't be in that time; Churchill wanted to keep the Spitfires and other stuff, but the Doctor explained that he couldn't let him. I'm guessing WW2 playing out as it did must be a fixed point or something. Presumably, this was also explained to Bracewell.

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** The Doctor got rid of all the technology that shouldn't be in that time; Churchill wanted to keep the Spitfires and other stuff, but the Doctor explained that he couldn't let him. I'm guessing WW2 UsefulNotes/WW2 playing out as it did must be a fixed point or something. Presumably, this was also explained to Bracewell.
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** Evolution, [[SamuelLJackson motherfucker,]] do you understand the concept of it? It's very extremely unlikely that the Angels on twenty-first century Earth work exactly the same way as the Angels that are possibly GALAXIES away from Earth, millenia later. It's like saying that an arctic hare and a jackrabbit are ''exactly the same thing,'' and have to work ''exactly the same way, in every detail.''

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** Evolution, [[SamuelLJackson [[Creator/SamuelLJackson motherfucker,]] do you understand the concept of it? It's very extremely unlikely that the Angels on twenty-first century Earth work exactly the same way as the Angels that are possibly GALAXIES away from Earth, millenia later. It's like saying that an arctic hare and a jackrabbit are ''exactly the same thing,'' and have to work ''exactly the same way, in every detail.''
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*** Earth is stated on numerous occasions to be primitive and backwater (at least in ''TheSarahJaneAdventures''), but I don't recall anywhere stating it's "in the middle of nowhere". Wasn't there a race from Alpha Centauri? That's as near a star system as you can get. And that's not even getting into the Martians and Venusians.

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*** Earth is stated on numerous occasions to be primitive and backwater (at least in ''TheSarahJaneAdventures''), ''Series/TheSarahJaneAdventures''), but I don't recall anywhere stating it's "in the middle of nowhere". Wasn't there a race from Alpha Centauri? That's as near a star system as you can get. And that's not even getting into the Martians and Venusians.
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**** The paper might not work on them since the six people all on screen have very high IQs and UNIT recognisized Ten since his last companion at the time worked for UNIT

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** Plus, whether the Daleks keep their bargain or not, there's still a powerful weapon of mass destruction right inside Bracewell just waiting for someone to find and use it; the Doctor presumably doesn't think that it's a particularly good idea to just leave it in there without disarming it anyway.
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** No. He's still dead. It's stated above that, even if erased from time, the effects of it would still remain. For instance Amy is still alive even if his parents were swallowed by the crack
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**** Several scenes (Going to the Cliffs in The Pandorica Opens, River's picnic at Asgard, etc) make it fairly clear that The Doctor actually takes them on normal outings most of the time and the adventures, while common, are still kinda the exception to the rule. Chances are, most of the time he takes the companions on perfectly normal holidays and does his reading there.

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** We're observing them 24 times per second or so. Stroboscopic angels, anyone?
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**The TARDIS wasn't just blown up. It was destroyed ''during flight'', ''in a time vortex'', ''by her engines overloading and exploding''. Engines that we now know are powered directly by the Eye of Harmony, a black hole that is in the process of forming but held in stasis by the TARDIS itself. The explosion would have spread the creation of the singularity to every point of spacetime through the time vortex. But during/prior to the Time War the Eye of Harmony was an already created singularity that existed somewhere near Gallifrey, and TARDISes drew their power from it through remote connection. Even if the Daleks could cause an engine overload of a TARDIS inside the Time Vortex, there isn't any creation of a blackhole to be spread throughout reality.
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** Possible foreshadowing of the alien goings-on in the building? Alternatively, Craig or his landlord just has really weird taste in art.

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