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* What happens when Kerensky meets Mark Corey, the actor who plays him]]. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing". Duvall implies that she would have gone for the time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing. When Dahl notes that ''he'' didn't and nobody questioned that, she points out that he's a prude.

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* What happens when Kerensky meets Mark Corey, the actor who plays him]].him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".thing"]]. Duvall implies that she would have gone for the time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing. When Dahl notes that ''he'' didn't and nobody questioned that, she points out that he's a prude.

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* The audiobook brings with it a bit of meta-humor complements of a CastingGag: It's read by Wil Wheaton, AKA [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Wesley Crusher.]]



** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research would allow. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of {{elephant in the room}}, forced into obscurity by the canon.
* The only physical description we get of Jenkins is that he is a Yeti. It isn't immediately clear if we are supposed to picture an irate furry hominid or just a dude with really shaggy hair. [[spoiler: When we meet his actor later on, it's noted that he's better groomed than Jenkins, and the actor notes that this is the first time anyone's described him as relatively well-groomed.]]

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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research would allow. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of {{elephant in the room}}, forced into obscurity by the canon.
* The only physical description we get of Jenkins is that he is a Yeti. It isn't immediately clear if we are supposed to picture an irate furry hominid or just a dude with really shaggy hair. [[spoiler: When we meet his actor later on, it's noted that he's better groomed than Jenkins, and the actor notes that this is the first time anyone's described him as relatively well-groomed.]]



* What happens when Kerensky meets [[spoiler: Mark Corey, the actor who plays him]]. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".]]
** Duvall implies that she would have gone for the time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing. When Dahl notes that ''he'' didn't and nobody questioned that, she points out that he's a prude.

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* What happens when Kerensky meets [[spoiler: Mark Corey, the actor who plays him]]. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".]]
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Duvall implies that she would have gone for the time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing. When Dahl notes that ''he'' didn't and nobody questioned that, she points out that he's a prude.



* People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to [[spoiler:Weinstein]] about the worms from the prologue. [[spoiler:The worms weren't his idea, he was on vacation at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it.]] He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about [[spoiler:the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing]].

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* People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to [[spoiler:Weinstein]] Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. [[spoiler:The The worms weren't his idea, he was on vacation at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it.]] it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about [[spoiler:the the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing]].writing.
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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was on vacation at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]

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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein [[spoiler:Weinstein]] about the worms from the prologue. The [[spoiler:The worms weren't his idea, he was on vacation at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. it.]] He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the [[spoiler:the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]writing]].

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* Hester tries to rib Duvall about sleeping with Kerensky once that comes to light. She manages to take him down a peg and remind him of their overall predicament in a single retort.
--> '''Hester:''' Your boyfriend has an action figure!
--> '''Duvall:''' And you ''don't!'' In ''this'' universe, that's a problem.

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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was sick at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]

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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was sick on vacation at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]
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* The audiobook brings with it a bit of meta-humor complements of a CastingGag: It's read by Wil Wheaton, AKA [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Wesley Crusher.]]
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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was sick at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise//Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]

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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was sick at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise//Dune}} [[{{Franchise/Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".]]

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* The only physical description we get of Jenkins is that he is a Yeti. It isn't immediately clear if we are supposed to picture an irate furry hominid or just a dude with really shaggy hair. [[spoiler: When we meet his actor later on, it's noted that he's better groomed than Jenkins, and the actor notes that this is the first time anyone's described him as relatively well-groomed.]]
* More than a few of the ensigns seem more [[YouHaveGotToBeKiddingMe annoyed than horrified]] at their impending horrific deaths.
* What happens when Kerensky meets [[spoiler: Mark Corey, the actor who plays him.him]]. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".]] ]]
** Duvall implies that she would have gone for the time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing. When Dahl notes that ''he'' didn't and nobody questioned that, she points out that he's a prude.




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* [[spoiler: People (both the fictional characters and real life ones) keep complaining to Weinstein about the worms from the prologue. The worms weren't his idea, he was sick at the time and couldn't veto them, and the studio got sued by [[{{Franchise//Dune}} the Herbert estate]] for it. He seems to be more upset about the worm thing than he is about the discovery that he has been unintentionally killing people with his writing.]]
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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing [[ScrewYourself "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing". thing".]]
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* The ensigns get bogged down - much in the way geeks would - arguing over the concept of "ice sharks", trying to figure out if they are sharks living in ice or if they're sharks made of ice.

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* The ensigns get bogged down - much in the way geeks would - arguing over the concept of "ice sharks", trying to figure out if they are sharks living in ice or if they're sharks made of ice.ice.

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other.

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other. Kerensky even denounces the others for thinking he was doing "some sort of time-traveling incestuous masturbation thing".
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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research would allow. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of elephant in the room, forced into obscurity by the canon.

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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research would allow. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of elephant {{elephant in the room, room}}, forced into obscurity by the canon.



* The ensigns get bogged down - much in the way geeks would - arguing over the concept of "ice sharks", trying to figure out if they are sharks living in ice or if they're sharks made of ice.

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* The ensigns get bogged down - much in the way geeks would - arguing over the concept of "ice sharks", trying to figure out if they are sharks living in ice or if they're sharks made of ice.
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* There is a Box of unknown origin that only the lower-ranking members of the ''Intrepid's'' science crew know about. [[SufficientlyAdvancedScience It can deduce anything]], but ''[[RuleOfDrama only when it's an emergency,]]'' and [[ScienceAtTheSpeedOfPlot always takes until the last minute.]] It [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]], and, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]

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* There is a Box of unknown origin that only the lower-ranking members of the ''Intrepid's'' science crew know about. [[SufficientlyAdvancedScience [[ClarkesThirdLaw It can deduce anything]], but ''[[RuleOfDrama only when it's an emergency,]]'' and [[ScienceAtTheSpeedOfPlot always takes until the last minute.]] It [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]], and, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]
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* There is a Box of unknown origin hidden in the science department. It can deduce almost anything, but ''[[RuleOfDrama only when it's an emergency,]]'' and [[ScienceAtTheSpeedOfPlot always takes until the last minute.]] It [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]], and, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]

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* There is a Box of unknown origin hidden in that only the lower-ranking members of the ''Intrepid's'' science department. crew know about. [[SufficientlyAdvancedScience It can deduce almost anything, anything]], but ''[[RuleOfDrama only when it's an emergency,]]'' and [[ScienceAtTheSpeedOfPlot always takes until the last minute.]] It [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]], and, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]

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* The very existence of The Box.
** It even [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]].
** And, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]

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* The very existence There is a Box of The Box.
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unknown origin hidden in the science department. It even can deduce almost anything, but ''[[RuleOfDrama only when it's an emergency,]]'' and [[ScienceAtTheSpeedOfPlot always takes until the last minute.]] It [[Series/DoctorWho goes ding when there's stuff]].
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stuff]], and, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]

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* The newly enrolled junior officers of the ''Intrepid'' not only finding out their reality has been overtaken by a 21st century television show, but that the show itself "isn't that well-written."

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* The newly enrolled junior officers of the ''Intrepid'' not only finding out are first hit with a serious WhamLine: their reality has been overtaken by a 21st century television show, but that is being warped to follow the show itself "isn't that well-written."'continuity' of a 21st-century TV show. And then the second, funny WhamLine:
--> '''Jenkins:''' But that's not the worst thing about it.\\
'''Finn:''' Jesus Christ. If that's not the worst thing, what is?\\
'''Jenkins:''' It's not actually a very good show.
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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other.

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. They end up spending the night just talking to each other.other.
* The ensigns get bogged down - much in the way geeks would - arguing over the concept of "ice sharks", trying to figure out if they are sharks living in ice or if they're sharks made of ice.
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-->Tropes Applied to [[Literature/{{Redshirts}} the novel]] by JohnScalzi:

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-->Tropes Applied to [[Literature/{{Redshirts}} the novel]] by JohnScalzi:
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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of elephant in the room, forced into obscurity by the canon.

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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research.research would allow. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of elephant in the room, forced into obscurity by the canon.
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** On a meta level the Box is a perfect example of the flaws in the ''Intrepid's'' universe. It has to exist, because the writers cause the local science crew to make impossible deductions and calculate impossible things at speeds far higher than real research. Yet it has no origin, no explanation and is never mentioned in the Narrative - because it would be recognized as the cheap, lame PlotHole that it is if it were ever to appear in ''Chronicles of the'' Intrepid. So it becomes a sort of elephant in the room, forced into obscurity by the canon.
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** And, needless to say, [[WhenThingsSpinScienceHappens whatever you put inside it spins.]]
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** It even goes ''ding'' when there's stuff.

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** It even [[Series/DoctorWho goes ''ding'' ding when there's stuff.stuff]].
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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. [[spoiler:They end up spending the night just talking to each other. At least, that's their excuse.]]

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* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. [[spoiler:They They end up spending the night just talking to each other. At least, that's their excuse.]]
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-->Tropes Applied to [[Literature/Redshirts the novel]] by JohnScalzi:

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-->Tropes Applied to [[Literature/Redshirts [[Literature/{{Redshirts}} the novel]] by JohnScalzi:
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* The newly enrolled junior officers of the ''Intrepid'' not only finding out their reality has been overtaken by a 20th century television show, but that the show itself "isn't that well-written."

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* The newly enrolled junior officers of the ''Intrepid'' not only finding out their reality has been overtaken by a 20th 21st century television show, but that the show itself "isn't that well-written."
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-->Tropes Applied to the novel by JohnScalzi:

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* The newly enrolled junior officers of the ''Intrepid'' not only finding out their reality has been overtaken by a 20th century television show, but that the show itself "isn't that well-written."
* The very existence of The Box.
** It even goes ''ding'' when there's stuff.
* What happens when Kerensky meets the actor who plays him. [[spoiler:They end up spending the night just talking to each other. At least, that's their excuse.]]

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