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* Sonic is laid-back but extremely independent and is always doing his own thing, without a care about what anyone else says or thinks. He accepts the friendship of people like Tails or Knuckles, but doesn't actively seek affection (note how most games start with Sonic on his own and he's joined by his friends later on, ''Sonic Heroes'' included), and rebuffs Amy's romantic advances toward him, finding her clingy nature and marriage requests off-putting. His aloofness is even more prominent in the Sega-produced [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie animated]] [[Anime/SonicX Japanese adaptations]]. Similarly, Shadow is distant and aloof, and despite having a friendship of sorts with his teammates Rouge and Omega, he's not interested in getting too close to them or showing any kind of affection. This is consistent with hedgehogs' behavior in real life: while they're docile and can be trained to accept affection, they're pretty standoffish and never seek attention. They tolerate petting and cuddling from their owners to a certain extent, but they won't ask for it, and they'll let them know when they’ve had enough.

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* In real life, hedgehogs are pretty standoffish and never seek attention. They can be trained to accept affection, and they will tolerate petting and cuddling from their owners to a certain extent, but they won't ask for it, and they'll let them know when they’ve had enough. This is consistent with Sonic and Shadow's personalities and demeanors:
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Sonic is laid-back but extremely independent and is always doing his own thing, without a care about what anyone else says or thinks. He accepts the friendship of people like Tails or Knuckles, but doesn't actively seek affection (note how most games start with Sonic on his own and he's joined by his friends later on, ''Sonic Heroes'' included), and rebuffs Amy's romantic advances toward him, finding her clingy nature and marriage requests off-putting. His aloofness is even more prominent in the Sega-produced [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie animated]] [[Anime/SonicX Japanese adaptations]]. Similarly, adaptations]].
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Shadow is distant and aloof, and despite having a friendship of sorts with his teammates Rouge and Omega, he's not interested in getting becoming too close to them or showing any kind of affection. This is consistent with hedgehogs' behavior in real life: while they're docile and can be trained to accept affection, they're pretty standoffish and never seek attention. They tolerate petting and cuddling from their owners to a certain extent, but they won't ask for it, and they'll let them know when they’ve had enough.affection.

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* Why are a lot of the boss machines in ''Sonic 1'' so mundane compared to the later ones in ''Sonic 2'' and ''3''? Robotnik didn't expect any competition at first. When he realized someone was opposing him, and coming in ''very fast'', he grabbed what he could, stuck it on the Egg-o-matic, and hoped for the best. By the time ''Sonic 2'' comes around, he's had time to prepare for the little blue nuisance that wrecked his operation the first time, allowing his craft to plug into various other machines or accept direct attachments that pop off with ease for a quick escape.

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* Why are a lot of the boss machines in ''Sonic 1'' so mundane compared to the later ones in ''Sonic 2'' and ''3''? Robotnik didn't expect any competition at first. When he realized someone was opposing him, and coming in ''very fast'', he grabbed what he could, stuck it on the Egg-o-matic, Eggmobile, and hoped for the best. By the time ''Sonic 2'' comes around, he's had time to prepare for the little blue nuisance that wrecked his operation the first time, allowing his craft to plug into various other machines or accept direct attachments that pop off with ease for a quick escape.
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** There could be a slightly brighter side to this: considering the fact that Dr. Eggman tends to use life-forms to power his robots, such as animals or plants, the sapience of each robot may instead be powered by, or ''is'' the sapience of the life-forms he uses, so he's literally unable to take that away. Only subdue it. This still doesn't change the fact that Sonic might is still committing genocide, though, as not all robots were seen to leave life-forms...

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** There could be a slightly brighter side to this: considering the fact that Dr. Eggman tends to use life-forms to power his robots, such as animals or plants, the sapience of each robot may instead be powered by, or ''is'' the sapience of the life-forms he uses, so he's literally unable to take that away. Only subdue it. This still doesn't change the fact that Sonic might is still be committing genocide, though, as not all robots were seen to leave life-forms...
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** There could be a somewhat brighter side to this: considering the fact that Dr. Eggman tends to use life-forms to power his robots, such as animals or plants, the sapience of each robot may instead be powered by, or ''is'' the sapience of the life-forms he uses, so he's literally unable to take that away. Only subdue it. This still doesn't take the fact that Sonic might is still committing genocide, though, as not all robots were seen to leave life-forms...

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** There could be a somewhat slightly brighter side to this: considering the fact that Dr. Eggman tends to use life-forms to power his robots, such as animals or plants, the sapience of each robot may instead be powered by, or ''is'' the sapience of the life-forms he uses, so he's literally unable to take that away. Only subdue it. This still doesn't take change the fact that Sonic might is still committing genocide, though, as not all robots were seen to leave life-forms...
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** There could be a somewhat brighter side to this: considering the fact that Dr. Eggman tends to use life-forms to power his robots, such as animals or plants, the sapience of each robot may instead be powered by, or ''is'' the sapience of the life-forms he uses, so he's literally unable to take that away. Only subdue it.

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* When discussing VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog characters with a piano teacher, I then discovered that Tails' real name, Miles Prower, [[PunnyName is actually a pun on "Miles per hour,"]] a FridgeBrilliance moment on its own, and a fitting enough name for a character in a speed-driven series. However, the name "[[MeaningfulName Miles]]" also has roots in the Germanic word meaning "mild" (which describes his character), and the Latin world for "solider" ([[TagalongKid which he serves as one towards Sonic]]).

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* When discussing VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog characters with a piano teacher, I then discovered that Tails' real name, Miles Prower, [[PunnyName is actually a pun on "Miles per hour,"]] a FridgeBrilliance moment on its own, and a fitting enough name for a character in a speed-driven series. However, the name "[[MeaningfulName Miles]]" also has roots in the Germanic word meaning "mild" (which describes his character), and the Latin world for "solider" ([[TagalongKid which he serves as one towards Sonic]]).



* This troper used to think that Rouge the Bat got her name only for wearing makeup as a MsFanservice. Later he realized that the [[RougeAnglesOfSatin similarity to "rogue"]] was probably no accident. Furthermore, her full name is a partial reversal of "Baton Rouge." Triply appropriate!
* In ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', Sonic's bosses, which are Eggman Nega's, feel a lot harder than Blaze's bosses; the characters have the same mechs, but Eggman Nega feels harder — why? It's because Eggman Nega doesn't have the same moral restraint that Eggman does! He's ''actively trying'' to kill his enemy, while Eggman uses his [[OneHitKill nas]][[NoOneCouldSurviveThat tier]] moves as last resorts.-@/{{Etheru}}
* [[Tropers.AOTKorby AOTKorby]] realized recently that Chaos Control is either a ShoutOut or an unintentional reference. Chaos Control, how about [[Series/GetSmart KAOS CONTROL]]. Made better by the fact that [=SA2=] wasn't developed in Japan.

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* This troper used to think that Rouge the Bat got her name only for wearing makeup as a MsFanservice. Later he realized that the [[RougeAnglesOfSatin similarity to "rogue"]] was probably no accident. Furthermore, her full name is a partial reversal of "Baton Rouge." Triply appropriate!
* In ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', Sonic's bosses, which are Eggman Nega's, feel a lot harder than Blaze's bosses; the characters have the same mechs, but Eggman Nega feels harder — why? It's because Eggman Nega doesn't have the same moral restraint that Eggman does! He's ''actively trying'' to kill his enemy, while Eggman uses his [[OneHitKill nas]][[NoOneCouldSurviveThat tier]] moves as last resorts.-@/{{Etheru}}
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* [[Tropers.AOTKorby AOTKorby]] realized recently that Chaos Control is could possibly be either a ShoutOut or an unintentional reference. Chaos Control, how about [[Series/GetSmart KAOS CONTROL]]. Made better by the fact that [=SA2=] wasn't developed in Japan.



* I'm not sure if this fact will continue in later games, and may not be the case in the other universes, but every character to canonically have a Super Form has [[spoiler:gone into said Super Form for the first time alongside Sonic. It happens with Shadow in ''[=SA2=]'', with Blaze while she used the Sol Emeralds, and most recently with Silver (and Shadow) in ''Sonic '06''. Sonic is first shown using his Super Form, without any known help, way back in ''Sonic 2''! I understood it as Sonic just being TheChosenOne, but he could also be able to hand off the ability or show how to use Emeralds in this way, since everyone mentioned can go Super on their own from that point on. Tails and Knuckles getting their super shields in ''Sonic Heroes'' may or may not count, since it wasn't a real Super Form for either, but Sonic was still the one that gave them said shields. And their Hyper modes are an entirely different matter since they aren't known for being canon, at least in the games.]]

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* I'm not sure if this fact will continue in later games, and may not be the case in the other universes, but every Every character to canonically have a Super Form has [[spoiler:gone into said Super Form for the first time alongside Sonic. It happens with Shadow in ''[=SA2=]'', with Blaze while she used the Sol Emeralds, and most recently with Silver (and Shadow) in ''Sonic '06''. Sonic is first shown using his Super Form, without any known help, way back in ''Sonic 2''! I understood it as Sonic just being TheChosenOne, but he could also be able to hand off the ability or show how to use Emeralds in this way, since everyone mentioned can go Super on their own from that point on. Tails and Knuckles getting their super shields in ''Sonic Heroes'' may or may not count, since it wasn't a real Super Form for either, but Sonic was still the one that gave them said shields. And their Hyper modes are an entirely different matter since they aren't known for being canon, at least in the games.]]



* {{Tropers/TommyX}}: ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' reveals that Classic Sonic is actually younger Sonic. This means that the moves and techniques Sonic has had through the years also show his age. A few examples.

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* {{Tropers/TommyX}}: ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'' reveals that Classic Sonic is actually younger Sonic. This means that the moves and techniques Sonic has had through the years also show his age. A few examples.



* In ''Anime/SonicX'', during the episode where Cosmo and Chris are captured, Sonic transforms into a new "dark form." While this may seem like an AssPull at first, one must take this into account — they are surrounded by (duplicate) Chaos Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds have two types of energy — positive and negative. Positive is activated by those pure of heart, while those who are consumed by rage will use the negative side. When thinking of Sonic's state of mind, he was quite angry, no? That wasn't some kind of hidden demon locked within his heart, or some new kind of technique he had learned — Sonic had just used the negative energy of the Chaos Emeralds! - Tropers/LordOfTheInternet

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* In ''Anime/SonicX'', during the episode where Cosmo and Chris are captured, Sonic transforms into a new "dark form." While this may seem like an AssPull at first, one must take this into account — they are surrounded by (duplicate) Chaos Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds have two types of energy — positive and negative. Positive is activated by those pure of heart, while those who are consumed by rage will use the negative side. When thinking of Sonic's state of mind, he was quite angry, no? That wasn't some kind of hidden demon locked within his heart, or some new kind of technique he had learned — Sonic had just used the negative energy of the Chaos Emeralds! - Tropers/LordOfTheInternetEmeralds!



* OK, so we all know that [[SuperMode Super Sonic (or Super Knuckles]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking or the Hyper forms]], [[OverlyLongGag or whatever the hell you can think of]]) is a GameBreaker, yes? At least, to some people? After seeing Super Sonic fight [[EldritchAbomination giant killer monsters]] every other game, his GameBreaker status in the classics ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic 4]]) makes a whole lot more sense; Naturally, the badniks and such can't even touch him. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation Rings aren't much of an issue, either]]. ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' [[GameplayAndStorySegregation shows that he really didn't need them anyway]]. Even if ''Sonic Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity isn't considered canon]], Creator/BioWare really had to [[ShownTheirWork do their homework]] to deal with the various informational extras. As for Big Arm from ''Sonic 3'', Super Sonic could get hurt because the robot was powerful enough to accomplish it. Similarly, the Egg Salamander (the TrueFinalBoss of ''Sonic Rush'') was powerful enough to hurt Super Sonic and Burning Blaze, being powered up by the reaction between the Chaos and Sol Emeralds (this could also come into play with the Egg Wizard of ''Rush Adventure''; the robot's powered by the Power of the Stars, but it's never mentioned to have used the reaction as well — meaning that the energy was still available for Sonic and Blaze). Super Knuckles, on the other hand, had to have been sturdier than that, just as normal Knuckles is harder to [[NeverSayDie KO]] than normal Sonic if they both took a strong hit ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation aside from gameplay, that is]]). It all makes sense, thinking about it. -[[{{Tropers/Akamia}} Akamia]]

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* OK, so we all know that [[SuperMode Super Sonic (or Super Knuckles]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking or the Hyper forms]], [[OverlyLongGag or whatever the hell you can think of]]) is a GameBreaker, yes? At least, to some people? After seeing Super Sonic fight [[EldritchAbomination giant killer monsters]] every other game, his GameBreaker status in the classics ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic 4]]) makes a whole lot more sense; Naturally, the badniks and such can't even touch him. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation Rings aren't much of an issue, either]]. ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' [[GameplayAndStorySegregation shows that he really didn't need them anyway]]. Even if ''Sonic Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity isn't considered canon]], Creator/BioWare really had to [[ShownTheirWork do their homework]] to deal with the various informational extras. As for Big Arm from ''Sonic 3'', Super Sonic could get hurt because the robot was powerful enough to accomplish it. Similarly, the Egg Salamander (the TrueFinalBoss of ''Sonic Rush'') was powerful enough to hurt Super Sonic and Burning Blaze, being powered up by the reaction between the Chaos and Sol Emeralds (this could also come into play with the Egg Wizard of ''Rush Adventure''; the robot's powered by the Power of the Stars, but it's never mentioned to have used the reaction as well — meaning that the energy was still available for Sonic and Blaze). Super Knuckles, on the other hand, had to have been sturdier than that, just as normal Knuckles is harder to [[NeverSayDie KO]] than normal Sonic if they both took a strong hit ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation aside from gameplay, that is]]). It all makes sense, thinking about it. -[[{{Tropers/Akamia}} Akamia]]



* Everyone pay attention to this, because it's confusing. Okay, in ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Classic Sonic sees Modern Sonic do a mid-air boost and, in the cutscene before the end credits, he attempts to perform one. So he started to learn the boost by doing it in mid-air, not running on the ground like Modern Sonic can also do. Well, the last skill Classic Sonic can learn after getting every red ring star on Planet Wisp is the homing attack. ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' takes place after Sonic had grown into his modern look and he knew how to do a homing attack. Because when he picked up on doing a boost in mid-air in his Classic form, he subconsciously started to learn how to do a homing attack as well. Furthermore, in the UsefulNotes/{{PS3}}[=/=]UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} version of ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'', once you get the Air Boost Shoes, it allows you to do a mid-air boost (like what Classic Sonic would see a few games later) by doing what is essentially a homing attack if you don't lock on to something. So the homing attack is basically the same thing as a mid-air boost, which Classic Sonic adapted to learn the homing attack by the time he grew into Modern Sonic. I think.

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* Everyone pay attention to this, because it's confusing. Okay, in In ''VideoGame/SonicGenerations'', Classic Sonic sees Modern Sonic do a mid-air boost and, in the cutscene before the end credits, he attempts to perform one. So he started to learn the boost by doing it in mid-air, not running on the ground like Modern Sonic can also do. Well, the last skill Classic Sonic can learn after getting every red ring star on Planet Wisp is the homing attack. ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog4'' takes place after Sonic had grown into his modern look and he knew how to do a homing attack. Because when he picked up on doing a boost in mid-air in his Classic form, he subconsciously started to learn how to do a homing attack as well. Furthermore, in the UsefulNotes/{{PS3}}[=/=]UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} version of ''VideoGame/SonicUnleashed'', once you get the Air Boost Shoes, it allows you to do a mid-air boost (like what Classic Sonic would see a few games later) by doing what is essentially a homing attack if you don't lock on to something. So the homing attack is basically the same thing as a mid-air boost, which Classic Sonic adapted to learn the homing attack by the time he grew into Modern Sonic. I think.



** Also, what struck me as weird at first was how the Genesis-era Robotnik in ''Generations'' said he now went by "Eggman" when Tails called him Robotnik, but in ''Sonic Adventure'', he's angry at Sonic calling him "Eggman" as an insult and says his name is Robotnik. The reason for this was that in the last cutscene in ''Generations'', the younger Robotnik/Eggman said he'd dedicate his whole life to ''forgetting what had happened''; that means he actually ''had'' forgotten all about going by Eggman by the time he had grown into his older look.

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** Also, what struck me as weird at first was how the Genesis-era Robotnik in ''Generations'' said he now went by "Eggman" when Tails called him Robotnik, but in ''Sonic Adventure'', he's angry at Sonic calling him "Eggman" as an insult and says his name is Robotnik. The reason for this was that in the last cutscene in ''Generations'', the younger Robotnik/Eggman said he'd dedicate his whole life to ''forgetting what had happened''; that means he actually ''had'' forgotten all about going by Eggman by the time he had grown into his older look.



* If anyone can recall the game ''VideoGame/TailsAdventure'' for Game Gear, Tails has a lot of items at his disposal in this game, and one of them is the Piko Piko Hammer. That being the weapon that Amy is famous for, but he chronologically had one first. Then, along came ''VideoGame/SonicTheFighters'', which is the first game where Amy uses her hammer; meanwhile, Tails' up and disappears until ''VideoGame/SonicAdvance3'', where pretty much ''everyone'' suddenly has one. It's apparent that Amy is important to Tails, kind of like a big sister figure, and he's definitely aware that she's important to Sonic as well (even if he won't admit it). Considering all that, and the fact that Amy was ''especially'' prone to getting kidnapped at the time, could it be possible that Amy's iconic hammer ''is'' Tails' hammer, and he gave it to her so she could defend herself? Not that it's made much of a difference until recently, but it still seems kind of sweet.

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* If anyone can recall the game In ''VideoGame/TailsAdventure'' for the Game Gear, Tails has a lot of items at his disposal in this game, and one of them is the Piko Piko Hammer. That being the weapon that Amy is famous for, but he chronologically had one first. Then, along came ''VideoGame/SonicTheFighters'', which is the first game where Amy uses her hammer; meanwhile, Tails' up and disappears until ''VideoGame/SonicAdvance3'', where pretty much ''everyone'' suddenly has one. It's apparent that Amy is important to Tails, kind of like a big sister figure, and he's definitely aware that she's important to Sonic as well (even if he won't admit it). Considering all that, and the fact that Amy was ''especially'' prone to getting kidnapped at the time, could it be possible that Amy's iconic hammer ''is'' Tails' hammer, and he gave it to her so she could defend herself? Not that it's made much of a difference until recently, but it still seems kind of sweet.



* I, like everyone else, got rather irritated how Sonic is always in a car in a racing game (excluding ''Sonic R'', of course). But then, I realized something: Sonic is always in a car, same as the others, so that he can be more equal to their speed. Because, seeing as how Sonic is naturally the fastest thing alive, if he wasn't in a car, then no one else would get a chance to win.

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* I, like everyone else, got rather irritated how Sonic is always in a car in a In racing game games where he features or cameos in (excluding ''Sonic R'', of course). But then, I realized something: 'Sonic R'), Sonic is always in a car, same as the others, so that he can be more equal to their speed. Because, seeing as how Sonic is naturally the fastest thing alive, if he wasn't in a car, then no one else would get a chance to win.



** Counterpoint: Sonic has been shown to be matched and outmatched in speed multiple times throughout the series, by [[VideoGame/SonicCD Metal Sonic]], [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed Egg Chasers]] (which are almost constantly ''ahead'' of him), and even by the redesigned Motobugs in ''Colors''. As for the "willing and able to destroy Eggman's machines" argument, I present the [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 GUN Truck]]. The real reason that Sonic is using a car is much simpler; he likes driving them because he finds it fun. He's ridden on the wing of a biplane, boarded down snow, sand, and streets, used hang-gliders, and more, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy the feeling of driving a fast car?

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** Counterpoint: Sonic has been shown to be matched and outmatched in speed multiple times throughout the series, by [[VideoGame/SonicCD Metal Sonic]], [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed Egg Chasers]] (which are almost constantly ''ahead'' of him), and even by the redesigned Motobugs in ''Colors''. As for the "willing and able to destroy Eggman's machines" argument, I present the [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 GUN Truck]].Truck]] implies otherwise. The real reason that Sonic is using a car is much simpler; he likes driving them because he finds it fun. He's ridden on the wing of a biplane, boarded down snow, sand, and streets, used hang-gliders, and more, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy the feeling of driving a fast car?



* At the risk of sounding pairing preachy, Sonic and Amy's post-1997 relationship could represent Sonic Team's struggle with giving players a palpable sense of speed, and not just making a Hedgehog Racer.



** Like a million faces, I've recognized them all. And one by one they've all become, A number as they fall (as they fall). In the face of reason, I can take no more. One by one they've all become, A black mark on the floor.



* Several badniks with self-destruct mechanisms also contain animals. If Sonic smashes them, the animal is freed, whereas if they successfully detonate as weapons, the animal will not survive. -@/AceOfScarabs

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* Several badniks with self-destruct mechanisms also contain animals. If Sonic smashes them, the animal is freed, whereas if they successfully detonate as weapons, the animal will not survive. -@/AceOfScarabs
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* When discussing Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog characters with a piano teacher, I then discovered that Tails' real name, Miles Prower, [[PunnyName is actually a pun on "Miles per hour,"]] a FridgeBrilliance moment on its own, and a fitting enough name for a character in a speed-driven series. However, the name "[[MeaningfulName Miles]]" also has roots in the Germanic word meaning "mild" (which describes his character), and the Latin world for "solider" ([[TagalongKid which he serves as one towards Sonic]]).

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* When discussing Franchise/SonicTheHedgehog VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog characters with a piano teacher, I then discovered that Tails' real name, Miles Prower, [[PunnyName is actually a pun on "Miles per hour,"]] a FridgeBrilliance moment on its own, and a fitting enough name for a character in a speed-driven series. However, the name "[[MeaningfulName Miles]]" also has roots in the Germanic word meaning "mild" (which describes his character), and the Latin world for "solider" ([[TagalongKid which he serves as one towards Sonic]]).



** If the "[[VideoGame/SonicGenerations Classic Sonic]] is from between ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog Sonic 1]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2 2]]''" theory is to be believed, [[spoiler:''Sonic himself'' first transformed into his Super form alongside Sonic]].

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** If the "[[VideoGame/SonicGenerations Classic Sonic]] is from between ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog1 Sonic 1]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2 2]]''" theory is to be believed, [[spoiler:''Sonic himself'' first transformed into his Super form alongside Sonic]].
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* The constant juxtaposition of pinball and gambling in the ''Sonic'' franchise (starting with Casino Night Zone in ''VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2'') might seen odd at first, until you realize that pinball was considered gambling in its infancy, and pinball and pachinko (which is popular in Japan and ''is'' definitely gambling) share the same roots.
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* This one admittedly might be obvious to others, but why is the infamous port of the original game to the Game Boy Advance called ''Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis'', when the "Genesis" part [[CaptainObvious would already be implied]] (e.g. by the box art)? Because [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 an identically-titled game]] was released the very same day.

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* This one admittedly might be obvious to others, but why is the infamous port of the original game to the Game Boy Advance called ''Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis'', when the "Genesis" part [[CaptainObvious would already be implied]] implied (e.g. by the box art)? Because [[VideoGame/SonicTheHedgehog2006 an identically-titled game]] was released the very same day.
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* It was revealed that Eggman Nega is Eggman's descendant. I couldn't understand how [[FatBastard Eggman]] could get a date, much less reproduce. Then I remembered that Eggman is a self-professed feminist and romanticist — with that in mind, him having a descendant isn't that implausible.
** Disproved. "Feminist and romanticist" was a mistranslation of ''womanizer'', which means the very opposite.
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** The key word here is ''self-professed''. And people who are ugly and/or jerks get married and have children in the real world, too, so why is it so hard to accept that it could happen to Eggman?
** Nega could also be the results of cloning or a test tube baby.
*** Or sperm donor. Given his grandfather, Eggman's super-intelligence is probably inherited, and people would probably be interested in it. Of course, this would mean that Eggman would have to had masturbated at some point.
** Female {{Chubby Chaser}}s exist. [[BaraGenre So do male ones. And Bear culture as well.]]
** This could count as fridge horror as well, but... perhaps Eggman successfully forced Sara to marry him at some point in his life. If you consider her a canon character.
** Eggman can be quite desirable, especially if it's one of the [[WesternAnimation/AdventuresOfSonicTheHedgehog versions of]] [[WesternAnimation/SonicUnderground Eggman]] where he's portrayed as being more smooth and/or intimidating and cultured or has a more [[BigBeautifulMan appealingly designed body]] and/or [[StupidSexyFlanders fanservice]].
** Another note - lest we tend to forget the crass assumption that Eggman even needs a woman to create descendants with. He is after all a future-oriented scientist and there are viable [[DesignerBabies reproductive technologies that can utilize the DNA of two adult humans regardless of their sex; and/or viable cloning techniques.]]

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The feminist thing was proved to be a mistranslation. In the original Japanese text, it was statd that he was a womanizer, not a feminist. So it's not really an official character quirk of his.


* Dr. Robotnik/Eggman being a self proclaimed feminist might be an odd character quirk at first, but considering his goals, it makes sense: no person, no matter the gender or race, will be exempt from being subjected to his rule in any way if he creates the Eggman Empire.

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* Dr. Robotnik/Eggman being a self proclaimed feminist might be an odd character quirk at first, but considering his goals, it makes sense: no person, no matter the gender or race, will be exempt from being subjected to his rule in any way if he creates the Eggman Empire.
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* Dr. Robotnik/Eggman being a self proclaimed feminist might be an odd character quirk at first, but considering his goals, it makes sense: no person, no matter the gender or race, will be exempt from being subjected to his rule in any way if he creates the Eggman Empire.
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* One of the most infamous {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [[CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.

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* One of the most infamous {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally regularly run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [[CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.
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* One of the most infamous {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.

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* One of the most infamous {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [CruelMercy [[CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.
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* One of the most common {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.

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* One of the most common infamous {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.
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* One of the most common {{Headscratchers}} in the classic trilogy is how Eggman could run as fast as Sonic. While there isn't a comprehensive [[WatsonianVsDoylist in-story]] explanation for this, there are some factors to consider. For one, [[OhCrap Eggman's adrenaline is peaked out from the vulnerability of being chased by Sonic]], with none of his machines there to protect him from Sonic. Also, he doesn't have to run far to reach the safety of his next (and [[FinalBoss last]]) machine: he's likely putting forth all his energy in that short distance, and wouldn't be able to maintain that speed for the distances which Sonic and friends normally run. Finally, it's likely that Sonic is actually thinking ahead and [CruelMercy sparing him]], so that he could take Eggman out ''[[LoadBearingBoss along with]]'' his latest scheme: it would be a lot more trouble to beat up Eggman, then dismantle the Death Egg, than to take both of them out in one fell swoop.
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* Rouge is in ''VideoGame/SonicForces''. We don't know her role yet, but since she's standing with the resistance, we assume that she's a member too. If she ''is'' in the resistance, imagine how she felt when Shadow sided with the enemy, especially given their status as FireForgedFriends.

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* Shadow the Hedgehog is said to be [[OlderThanTheyLook 50 years old]], but that's only if you count the years he was a HumanPopsicle. Considering that he was artificially created and ignoring that he has a 15 year old's body, you could say that he's really about 5 years old. *cues laughter*

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* Shadow the Hedgehog is said to be [[OlderThanTheyLook 50 years old]], but that's only if you count the years he was a HumanPopsicle. Considering that he was artificially created and ignoring that he has a 15 year old's body, you could say that he's really about 5 years old. *cues laughter*
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* In his official render from Team Sonic Racing, Metal Sonic is imitating of one of Modern Sonic's most common poses, [[https://twitter.com/BlueParax/status/1085230597986021378 as pointed out here]]. Not only does this go with the fact that he's a robotic duplicate of Sonic, but it also fits his personality, considering he sees himself as "the real Sonic".

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* In his official render from Team Sonic Racing, Metal Sonic is imitating of one of Modern Sonic's most common poses, [[https://twitter.com/BlueParax/status/1085230597986021378 as pointed out here]]. Not only does this go with the fact that he's a robotic duplicate of Sonic, but it also fits his personality, considering he sees himself as "the real Sonic".
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* In his official render from Team Sonic Racing, Metal Sonic is imitating of one of Modern Sonic's most common poses, [[https://twitter.com/BlueParax/status/1085230597986021378 as pointed out here]]. Not only does this go with the fact that he's a robotic duplicate of Sonic, but it also fits his personality, considering he sees himself as "the real Sonic".
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*** Or sperm donor. Given his grandfather, Eggman's super-intelligence is probably inherited, and people would probably be interested in it. Of course, this would mean that Eggman would have to had masturbated at some point.]]

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*** Or sperm donor. Given his grandfather, Eggman's super-intelligence is probably inherited, and people would probably be interested in it. [[FridgeHorror Of course, this would mean that]] [[{{Squick}} Eggman would have to had masturbated at some point.]]
** Female {{Chubby Chaser}}s exist.

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*** Or sperm donor. Given his grandfather, Eggman's super-intelligence is probably inherited, and people would probably be interested in it. [[FridgeHorror Of course, this would mean that]] [[{{Squick}} that Eggman would have to had masturbated at some point.]]
** Female {{Chubby Chaser}}s exist. [[BaraGenre So do male ones. And Bear culture as well.]]


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** Another note - lest we tend to forget the crass assumption that Eggman even needs a woman to create descendants with. He is after all a future-oriented scientist and there are viable [[DesignerBabies reproductive technologies that can utilize the DNA of two adult humans regardless of their sex; and/or viable cloning techniques.]]
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* Rouge is in ''VideoGame/SonicForces''. We don't know her role yet, but since she's standing with the resistance, we assume that she's a member too. If she ''is'' in the resistance, imagine how she felt when Shadow sided with the enemy, especially given their status as FireForgedFriends.

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* Rouge is in ''VideoGame/SonicForces''. We don't know her role yet, but since she's standing with the resistance, we assume that she's a member too. If she ''is'' in the resistance, imagine how she felt when Shadow sided with the enemy, especially given their status as FireForgedFriends.FireForgedFriends.

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* Shadow the Hedgehog is said to be [[OlderThanTheyLook 50 years old]], but that's only if you count the years he was a HumanPopsicle. Considering that he was artificially created and ignoring that he has a 15 year old's body, you could say that he's really about 5 years old. *cues laughter*
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* The Progressive Ad has a lot of people wondering why Sonic is looking for insurance; then I realized he owns a plane which has been shot down at least twice.

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*** Counterpoint: Sonic has been shown to be matched and outmatched in speed multiple times throughout the series, by [[VideoGame/SonicCD Metal Sonic]], [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed Egg Chasers]] (which are almost constantly ''ahead'' of him), and even by the redesigned Motobugs in ''Colors''. As for the "willing and able to destroy Eggman's machines" argument, I present the [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 GUN Truck]]. The real reason that Sonic is using a car is much simpler; he likes driving them because he finds it fun. He's ridden on the wing of a biplane, boarded down snow, sand, and streets, used hang-gliders, and more, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy the feeling of driving a fast car?

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*** ** Counterpoint: Sonic has been shown to be matched and outmatched in speed multiple times throughout the series, by [[VideoGame/SonicCD Metal Sonic]], [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed Egg Chasers]] (which are almost constantly ''ahead'' of him), and even by the redesigned Motobugs in ''Colors''. As for the "willing and able to destroy Eggman's machines" argument, I present the [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 GUN Truck]]. The real reason that Sonic is using a car is much simpler; he likes driving them because he finds it fun. He's ridden on the wing of a biplane, boarded down snow, sand, and streets, used hang-gliders, and more, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy the feeling of driving a fast car?
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*** Counterpoint: Sonic has been shown to be matched and outmatched in speed multiple times throughout the series, by [[VideoGame/SonicCD Metal Sonic]], [[VideoGame/SonicUnleashed Egg Chasers]] (which are almost constantly ''ahead'' of him), and even by the redesigned Motobugs in ''Colors''. As for the "willing and able to destroy Eggman's machines" argument, I present the [[VideoGame/SonicAdventure2 GUN Truck]]. The real reason that Sonic is using a car is much simpler; he likes driving them because he finds it fun. He's ridden on the wing of a biplane, boarded down snow, sand, and streets, used hang-gliders, and more, so why shouldn't he be allowed to enjoy the feeling of driving a fast car?

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* So why would Sonic die from [[OneHitPointWonder touching an enemy without a ring]], especially if he touches one while uncurled? Because even accounting for the damage his speed and weight would inflict, he's still running head-on into solid metal or a very dense object, especially ones with blunt or sharp edges on their design, and unlike another solid object like a flat stone or steel wall, they're likely moving against him, so any way you look at it, it's gonna hurt him just as much as it would the robot, if not more.
** And how would simply curling up protect Sonic from injuring himself when bashing a robot? Because he's not exerting all of his force in one spot or spreading it out -- his body is basically acting as its own cushion, using his speed and the way gravity pulls him along to do the job for him. And whatever pain he would feel would probably he brushed off in a rush of adrenaline.

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* So why would Sonic die from [[OneHitPointWonder touching an enemy without a ring]], especially if he touches one while uncurled? Because even accounting for the damage his speed and weight would inflict, he's still running head-on into solid metal or a very dense object, especially ones with blunt or sharp edges on their design, and unlike another solid object object, like a flat stone or steel wall, they're likely moving against him, so any way you look at it, it's gonna hurt him just as much as it would the robot, if not more.
** And how would simply curling up protect Sonic from injuring himself when bashing a robot? Because he's not exerting all of his force in one spot or spreading it out -- his body is basically acting as its own cushion, using his speed and the way gravity pulls him along to do the job for him. And whatever pain he would feel would probably he brushed off in a rush of adrenaline.



** Speaking of MeaningfulName, Robotnik doesn't just mean "roboticist." In the 19th century, it referred to "forced worker" -- [[UnwillingRoboticization an accurate assessment of his Badniks]].

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** Speaking of MeaningfulName, Robotnik doesn't just mean "roboticist." In the 19th century, it referred to "forced worker" -- [[UnwillingRoboticization an accurate assessment of his Badniks]].



** However, canonically, ''Sonic 1'' isn't the first time Sonic and Eggman clashed. I personally like Taranea's take that Sonic was actually somewhat crippled by an injury that occurred shortly before the events of that game, and that's why he couldn't Spin-Dash. Going by this logic, perhaps Eggman thought Sonic was dead or incapacitated and wasn't expecting Sonic to still be able to oppose him despite getting badly hurt on their last go-round.



* In ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', Sonic's bosses, which are Eggman Nega's, feel a lot harder than Blaze's bosses; the characters have the same mechs, but Eggman Nega feels harder -- why? It's because Eggman Nega doesn't have the same moral restraint that Eggman does! He's ''actively trying'' to kill his enemy, while Eggman uses his [[OneHitKill nas]][[NoOneCouldSurviveThat tier]] moves as last resorts.-@/{{Etheru}}

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Sonic Rush|Series}}'', Sonic's bosses, which are Eggman Nega's, feel a lot harder than Blaze's bosses; the characters have the same mechs, but Eggman Nega feels harder -- why? It's because Eggman Nega doesn't have the same moral restraint that Eggman does! He's ''actively trying'' to kill his enemy, while Eggman uses his [[OneHitKill nas]][[NoOneCouldSurviveThat tier]] moves as last resorts.-@/{{Etheru}}



** The same could be said about Tails's plane "Tornado" -- don't see it yet? Tails is a fox; in Spanish, a fox is called zorro. The name of Franchise/{{Zorro}}'s horse in the movies: Tornado.

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** The same could be said about Tails's plane "Tornado" -- don't see it yet? Tails is a fox; in Spanish, a fox is called zorro. The name of Franchise/{{Zorro}}'s horse in the movies: Tornado.



** Chaos Control has been shown to do three distinct things (counting ''Sonic '06''). First: freezes or slows down time in an area, excluding the user, allowing for things like Shadow to roundhouse kick Silver in the back of the head at walking speed. Second: teleporting. Third: time travel. Each time, it's either a distortion of time or space. Modern science currently supports that time and space are properties of the same thing. 'Chaos' is also the Greek primordial void from which everything originated -- I.E. pre-Big Bang space. It's manipulation of time-space.

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** Chaos Control has been shown to do three distinct things (counting ''Sonic '06''). First: freezes or slows down time in an area, excluding the user, allowing for things like Shadow to roundhouse kick Silver in the back of the head at walking speed. Second: teleporting. Third: time travel. Each time, it's either a distortion of time or space. Modern science currently supports that time and space are properties of the same thing. 'Chaos' is also the Greek primordial void from which everything originated -- I.E. pre-Big Bang space. It's manipulation of time-space.



* In ''Anime/SonicX'', during the episode where Cosmo and Chris are captured, Sonic transforms into a new "dark form." While this may seem like an AssPull at first, one must take this into account -- they are surrounded by (duplicate) Chaos Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds have two types of energy -- positive and negative. Positive is activated by those pure of heart, while those who are consumed by rage will use the negative side. When thinking of Sonic's state of mind, he was quite angry, no? That wasn't some kind of hidden demon locked within his heart, or some new kind of technique he had learned -- Sonic had just used the negative energy of the Chaos Emeralds! - Tropers/LordOfTheInternet

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* In ''Anime/SonicX'', during the episode where Cosmo and Chris are captured, Sonic transforms into a new "dark form." While this may seem like an AssPull at first, one must take this into account -- they are surrounded by (duplicate) Chaos Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds have two types of energy -- positive and negative. Positive is activated by those pure of heart, while those who are consumed by rage will use the negative side. When thinking of Sonic's state of mind, he was quite angry, no? That wasn't some kind of hidden demon locked within his heart, or some new kind of technique he had learned -- Sonic had just used the negative energy of the Chaos Emeralds! - Tropers/LordOfTheInternet



* OK, so we all know that [[SuperMode Super Sonic (or Super Knuckles]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking or the Hyper forms]], [[OverlyLongGag or whatever the hell you can think of]]) is a GameBreaker, yes? At least, to some people? After seeing Super Sonic fight [[EldritchAbomination giant killer monsters]] every other game, his GameBreaker status in the classics ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic 4]]) makes a whole lot more sense; Naturally, the badniks and such can't even touch him. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation Rings aren't much of an issue, either]]. ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' [[GameplayAndStorySegregation shows that he really didn't need them anyway]]. Even if ''Sonic Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity isn't considered canon]], Creator/BioWare really had to [[ShownTheirWork do their homework]] to deal with the various informational extras. As for Big Arm from ''Sonic 3'', Super Sonic could get hurt because the robot was powerful enough to accomplish it. Similarly, the Egg Salamander (the TrueFinalBoss of ''Sonic Rush''), was powerful enough to hurt Super Sonic and Burning Blaze, being powered up by the reaction between the Chaos and Sol Emeralds (this could also come into play with the Egg Wizard of ''Rush Adventure''; the robot's powered by the Power of the Stars, but it's never mentioned to have used the reaction as well -- meaning that the energy was still available for Sonic and Blaze). Super Knuckles, on the other hand, had to have been sturdier than that, just as normal Knuckles is harder to [[NeverSayDie KO]] than normal Sonic if they both took a strong hit ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation aside from gameplay, that is]]). It all makes sense, thinking about it. -[[{{Tropers/Akamia}} Akamia]]

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* OK, so we all know that [[SuperMode Super Sonic (or Super Knuckles]], [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking or the Hyper forms]], [[OverlyLongGag or whatever the hell you can think of]]) is a GameBreaker, yes? At least, to some people? After seeing Super Sonic fight [[EldritchAbomination giant killer monsters]] every other game, his GameBreaker status in the classics ([[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and Sonic 4]]) makes a whole lot more sense; Naturally, the badniks and such can't even touch him. [[GameplayAndStorySegregation Rings aren't much of an issue, either]]. ''VideoGame/SonicChronicles'' [[GameplayAndStorySegregation shows that he really didn't need them anyway]]. Even if ''Sonic Chronicles'' [[CanonDiscontinuity isn't considered canon]], Creator/BioWare really had to [[ShownTheirWork do their homework]] to deal with the various informational extras. As for Big Arm from ''Sonic 3'', Super Sonic could get hurt because the robot was powerful enough to accomplish it. Similarly, the Egg Salamander (the TrueFinalBoss of ''Sonic Rush''), Rush'') was powerful enough to hurt Super Sonic and Burning Blaze, being powered up by the reaction between the Chaos and Sol Emeralds (this could also come into play with the Egg Wizard of ''Rush Adventure''; the robot's powered by the Power of the Stars, but it's never mentioned to have used the reaction as well -- meaning that the energy was still available for Sonic and Blaze). Super Knuckles, on the other hand, had to have been sturdier than that, just as normal Knuckles is harder to [[NeverSayDie KO]] than normal Sonic if they both took a strong hit ([[GameplayAndStorySegregation aside from gameplay, that is]]). It all makes sense, thinking about it. -[[{{Tropers/Akamia}} Akamia]]



* It was revealed that Eggman Nega is Eggman's descendant. I couldn't understand how [[FatBastard Eggman]] could get a date, much less reproduce. Then I remembered that Eggman is a self-professed feminist and romanticist -- with that in mind, him having a descendant isn't that implausible.

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* It was revealed that Eggman Nega is Eggman's descendant. I couldn't understand how [[FatBastard Eggman]] could get a date, much less reproduce. Then I remembered that Eggman is a self-professed feminist and romanticist -- with that in mind, him having a descendant isn't that implausible.



*** This also explains Sonic not catching up to Robotnik before the giant mechs in Sonic 2 and Sonic & Knuckles: rather than preventing Robotnik from using these weapons, Sonic wants to show that he's willing and able to destroy them. By running just as fast as Robotnik, the blue blur is just toying with him!

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*** This also explains Sonic not catching up to Robotnik before the giant mechs in Sonic 2 ''Sonic 2'' and Sonic & Knuckles: rather than preventing Robotnik from using these weapons, Sonic wants to show that he's willing and able to destroy them. By running just as fast as Robotnik, the blue blur is just toying with him!



* It felt odd that in ''Sonic and the Black Knight'', the three Knights of the Round Table were based on Shadow (Lancelot), Knuckles (Gawain) and Blaze (Percival). It felt especially odd since Blaze is a female cat. Then, it was clear: In the regular series, Shadow, Knuckles and Blaze all take their task very seriously. As a result, they're perfect for the roles, as being a knight in the Middle Ages meant taking such a role just as seriously. Tails as the blacksmith had always felt obvious, though.

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* It felt odd that in ''Sonic and the Black Knight'', the three Knights of the Round Table were based on Shadow (Lancelot), Knuckles (Gawain) (Gawain), and Blaze (Percival). It felt especially odd since Blaze is a female cat. Then, it was clear: In the regular series, Shadow, Knuckles Knuckles, and Blaze all take their task very seriously. As a result, they're perfect for the roles, as being a knight in the Middle Ages meant taking such a role just as seriously. Tails as the blacksmith had always felt obvious, though.



* Infinite’s theme song has MeaningfulLyrics in more ways than one. Namely, the ‘’This is an illusion’’ lyric, which foreshadows the Phantom Ruby’s [[MindRape true power]].

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* Sonic is laidback but extremely independent and is always doing his own thing, without a care about what anyone else says or thinks. He accepts the friendship of people like Tails or Knuckles, but doesn't actively seek affection (note how most games start with Sonic on his own and he's joined by his friends later on, Sonic Heroes included), and rebuffs Amy's romantic advances toward him, finding her clingy nature and marriage requests off-putting. His aloofness is even more prominent in the Sega-produced [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie animated]] [[Anime/SonicX Japanese adaptations]]. Similarly, Shadow is distant and aloof, and despite having a friendship of sorts with his teammates Rouge and Omega, he's not interested in getting too close to them or showing any kind of affection. This is consistent with hedgehogs' behavior in real life: while they're docile and can be trained to accept affection, they're pretty standoffish and never seek attention. They tolerate petting and cuddling from their owners to a certain extent, but they won't ask for it, and they'll let them know when they’ve had enough.

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* Sonic is laidback laid-back but extremely independent and is always doing his own thing, without a care about what anyone else says or thinks. He accepts the friendship of people like Tails or Knuckles, but doesn't actively seek affection (note how most games start with Sonic on his own and he's joined by his friends later on, Sonic Heroes ''Sonic Heroes'' included), and rebuffs Amy's romantic advances toward him, finding her clingy nature and marriage requests off-putting. His aloofness is even more prominent in the Sega-produced [[Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie animated]] [[Anime/SonicX Japanese adaptations]]. Similarly, Shadow is distant and aloof, and despite having a friendship of sorts with his teammates Rouge and Omega, he's not interested in getting too close to them or showing any kind of affection. This is consistent with hedgehogs' behavior in real life: while they're docile and can be trained to accept affection, they're pretty standoffish and never seek attention. They tolerate petting and cuddling from their owners to a certain extent, but they won't ask for it, and they'll let them know when they’ve had enough.



* Consider that Metal Sonic was apparently "reset" after the events of ''Heroes'' to end his insanity. If Metal's AI is more sophisticated than the Egg Pawns and comparable to the self-learning Gamma's, such a factory reset of his memory could be tantamount to a death or MercyKill.

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* Consider that Metal Sonic was apparently "reset" after the events of ''Heroes'' to end his insanity. If Metal's AI is more sophisticated than the Egg Pawns and comparable to the self-learning Gamma's, such a factory reset of his memory could be tantamount to a death [[DeathOfPersonality death]] or MercyKill.

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