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** Conner was the one to start the whole "Cooper Gang", but there are also plenty of indications that he (at least at first) was a solo thief for some time. He would have to have not just have thieving skills, but also decent physical prowess and adequate technical know-how to pull off heists on his own. However, just like modern society with their more sophisticated security measures, Conner had to adapt with the times and eventually came to realize that even with a decent handling in all roles required to pull off a successful heist, he would still not be able to do it alone. So he formed the Cooper Gang, but despite their successes, they were still just a group brought together purely for pragmatic reasons unlike Sly's group that had a brotherlike kinship well before their first heist. M and McSweeney's respective skills may have been invaluable to their gang's successes, but the fact that Conner had always been capable of assuming their roles would have put a dampen on their sense of "brotherhood."
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*** ...This kind of makes sense, actually - there are no police officers around the precinct's offices when Sly steals the files on the Fiendish Five in the first game and there's no way to go near the guards during the Cairo heist in the second game - perhaps the gang deliberately avoids harming non-criminals?
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*** ...This kind of makes sense, actually - there are no police officers around the precinct's offices when Sly steals the files on the Fiendish Five in the first game and there's no way to go near the guards during the [[Recap/Sly2BandOfThievesMission00AShadowFromThePast Cairo heist heist]] in the second game - perhaps the gang deliberately avoids harming non-criminals?
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*** Likewise, the few times that Carmelita-- an upstanding officer of the law who believes in equal justice-- is shown fighting mooks in the second and third games, she also appears to be "slaughtering" them just like Sly and the gang are. This can either be taken as a confirmation that most of the guards ''in-universe'' don't actually die (despite how "you killed the target guard" is an occasional "Job Failed" message), or a confirmation that Sucker Punch simply never cared enough about the implications we've discussed here… and granted, [[MST3KMantra neither do most players]]. That said, the first issue of ''The Adventures of Sly Cooper'' features Dimitri's henchmen being tied up and knocked out by Sly as opposed to being dead outright.
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* Arpeggio's plan to achieve immortality in ''2'' required him to send the people of Paris into a homicidal frenzy, and then harvest their hatred in order to fuel Clockwerk's body. But as far as we know, Clockwerk could power his own body using only his personal hatred against the Coopers. Think about it: thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people, driven to murderous insanity... THAT is what is going on inside Clockwerk's mind, all the time, all focused against one single family. No wonder Neyla quickly went insane after taking over his body, despite the fact that Clockwerk's mind was essentially in a ''coma'' at the time.
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*** He also created the "owl dialect" that prevented Sly from getting the GameBreaker [[TimeStandsStill Time Stopper]] right away and use it against him. You can never be too careful...
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*** He also created the "owl dialect" that prevented Sly from getting the GameBreaker [[TimeStandsStill Time Stopper]] right away and use it against him. You can [[ProperlyParanoid never be too careful...careful]]...
* The Fiendish Five stand in the way of Sly's path to become a master thief, and can symbolize his path to adulthood. Thus, each of them is increasingly family-unfriendly, in strict order:
** Sir Rayleigh is a comedic, cartoonish mustache-twirling villain.
** The next three members all have increasingly tragic backstories and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters increasingly vicious retaliations]]: Muggshot was bullied and became the bully, Mz. Ruby was ostracized by her peers for knowing voodoo and [[ThenLetMeBeEvil embraced the evils of her black magic]], and Panda King was shunned by the nobles themselves for no reason other than not being in their class, so he became a ''terrorist''.
** Clockwerk, the final challenge, is the most family-unfriendly, being a terrifying force of blind hatred and malice.
* The Fiendish Five stand in the way of Sly's path to become a master thief, and can symbolize his path to adulthood. Thus, each of them is increasingly family-unfriendly, in strict order:
** Sir Rayleigh is a comedic, cartoonish mustache-twirling villain.
** The next three members all have increasingly tragic backstories and [[HeWhoFightsMonsters increasingly vicious retaliations]]: Muggshot was bullied and became the bully, Mz. Ruby was ostracized by her peers for knowing voodoo and [[ThenLetMeBeEvil embraced the evils of her black magic]], and Panda King was shunned by the nobles themselves for no reason other than not being in their class, so he became a ''terrorist''.
** Clockwerk, the final challenge, is the most family-unfriendly, being a terrifying force of blind hatred and malice.
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* While Episode 1 of ''Thieves in Time'' being titled ''Turning Japanese'' may come across as an [[ShallowParody easy reference]] in name only, it is worth mentioning that the song is about the emotional fallout of a failed relationship (though it's often mistakenly assumed to be about [[ADateWithRosiePalms something less appropriate]]). Considering the prologue right before Episode 1 involves Sly and Carmelita's breakup, the title might have a bit more depth to it on second glance.
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* While Episode 1 of ''Thieves in Time'' being titled ''Turning Japanese'' may come across as an [[ShallowParody easy reference]] in name only, it is worth mentioning that the song is about the emotional fallout of a failed relationship (though it's often mistakenly assumed to be about [[ADateWithRosiePalms something less appropriate]]).appropriate). Considering the prologue right before Episode 1 involves Sly and Carmelita's breakup, the title might have a bit more depth to it on second glance.
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* In the ''VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime'' episode "Clan of the Cave Raccoon", the gang are sent to Australia during the Ice Age. The locals are all anthropomorphic caveman equivalents of wooly mammoths, sabertooth tigers and dodo birds, prehistoric penguins are a form of fauna, a neanderthal-like species of raccoon acts as an ally and there are also dinosaurs ''everywhere''. At first glance, this may be considered the OneMillionBC trope played straight as everyone knows that dinosaurs went extinct long before the Ice Age ever happened and before such diversity in mammals existed. But remember that this isn't set on our Earth, but [[WorldOfFunnyAnimals an Earth populated by anthropomorphic animals]]. If the mass extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs never happened, then evolution would have been ''way'' different. With the various factors that eventually led to ''homo sapien'' becoming the dominant species of the Earth having never happened, this allowed other animal species to thrive and become sapient instead.
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* In the ''VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime'' episode "Clan of the Cave Raccoon", the gang are sent to Australia during the Ice Age. The locals are all anthropomorphic caveman equivalents of wooly mammoths, sabertooth tigers and dodo birds, prehistoric penguins are a form of fauna, a neanderthal-like species of raccoon acts as an ally and there are also dinosaurs ''everywhere''. At first glance, this may be considered the OneMillionBC HollywoodPrehistory trope played straight as everyone knows that dinosaurs went extinct long before the Ice Age ever happened and before such diversity in mammals existed. But remember that this isn't set on our Earth, but [[WorldOfFunnyAnimals an Earth populated by anthropomorphic animals]]. If the mass extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs never happened, then evolution would have been ''way'' different. With the various factors that eventually led to ''homo sapien'' becoming the dominant species of the Earth having never happened, this allowed other animal species to thrive and become sapient instead.
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* [[https://twitter.com/dfeierberg/status/1527793276455198720?s=21&t=k98HMwEpGAZ2MUaUEUpBTA This tweet]] (half-jokingly) suggests that the moose head Murray uses as a disguise in "Menace from the North, eh?" is the [[DisproportionateRetribution fate]] of the judge who gave Jean Bison a not-perfect score the previous year.
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* Regarding Murray's immense StoutStrength: [[https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0845/4561/products/hippo_muscle_openmouth_beige_1024x1024.jpg?v=1432479370 real-life hippos are almost entirely muscular]] despite their outwardly appearance looking "fat".
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* Bentley's increasing MoralDissonance in ''Sly 3'' may be attributed to his [[GeniusCripple condition]] and [[TheResenter feelings of inferiority towards Sly]]. His escapades throughout the course of ''Sly 2'' boosted his self-confidence, what with his regular field missions that end in success and his schemes getting the Clockwerk parts away from the Klaww Gang, capping it off by his victorious one-man jailbreak for his friends... only for it all to come crashing down on him at the very end (starting with Jean Bison stealing all the Clockwerk Parts) along with Clockwerk's jaws. Frustrated by this, he proceeds to devise plans that show he's no push-over in spite of what's happened to him. The events in Venice only cemented this issue, getting completely manhandled by Octavio after being caught off guard a couple of times. And then he finds someone of like mind, only for her to fall for Sly. He even has Sly sit out on jobs that he could pull off easily in "A Cold Alliance", leaving the raccoon a bit confused.
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* Bentley's increasing MoralDissonance attitude in ''Sly 3'' may be attributed to his [[GeniusCripple condition]] and [[TheResenter feelings of inferiority towards Sly]]. His escapades throughout the course of ''Sly 2'' boosted his self-confidence, what with his regular field missions that end in success and his schemes getting the Clockwerk parts away from the Klaww Gang, capping it off by his victorious one-man jailbreak for his friends... only for it all to come crashing down on him at the very end (starting with Jean Bison stealing all the Clockwerk Parts) along with Clockwerk's jaws. Frustrated by this, he proceeds to devise plans that show he's no push-over in spite of what's happened to him. The events in Venice only cemented this issue, getting completely manhandled by Octavio after being caught off guard a couple of times. And then he finds someone of like mind, only for her to fall for Sly. He even has Sly sit out on jobs that he could pull off easily in "A Cold Alliance", leaving the raccoon a bit confused.
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* Bentley's increasing MoralDissonance in ''Sly 3'' may be attributed to his [[GeniusCripple condition]] and [[TheResenter feelings of inferiority towards Sly]]. His escapades throughout the course of ''Sly 2'' boosted his self-confidence, only for it all to come crashing down on him at the very end (starting with Jean Bison stealing all the Clockwerk Parts) along with Clockwerk's jaws. Frustrated by this, he proceeds to devise plans that show he's no push-over in spite of what's happened to him. The events in Venice only cemented this issue, getting pushed around by Octavio. And then he finds someone of like mind, only for her to fall for Sly. He even has Sly sit out on jobs that he could pull off easily in "A Cold Alliance", leaving the raccoon a bit confused.
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* Bentley's increasing MoralDissonance in ''Sly 3'' may be attributed to his [[GeniusCripple condition]] and [[TheResenter feelings of inferiority towards Sly]]. His escapades throughout the course of ''Sly 2'' boosted his self-confidence, what with his regular field missions that end in success and his schemes getting the Clockwerk parts away from the Klaww Gang, capping it off by his victorious one-man jailbreak for his friends... only for it all to come crashing down on him at the very end (starting with Jean Bison stealing all the Clockwerk Parts) along with Clockwerk's jaws. Frustrated by this, he proceeds to devise plans that show he's no push-over in spite of what's happened to him. The events in Venice only cemented this issue, getting pushed around completely manhandled by Octavio.Octavio after being caught off guard a couple of times. And then he finds someone of like mind, only for her to fall for Sly. He even has Sly sit out on jobs that he could pull off easily in "A Cold Alliance", leaving the raccoon a bit confused.
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* I just realized, ''every single'' end-game BigBad has some connection to the Coopers: Clockwerk wanted to destroy the Cooper line out of spite and hatred, [[spoiler:Neyla]] wanted to '''Clockwerk''''s body to cause havoc and destruction, while also trying to destroy the Cooper Gang, Dr. M wanted to steal from the Cooper Vault out of jealousy for [[spoiler:feeling unappreciated for being Sly's Dad's "Brains"]] and Le Paradox wanted to erase the Cooper line because [[spoiler:the Coopers always outshined Le Paradoxes, and wanted to prove that ''he'' is better than every Cooper]]. Every BigBad is a possible corruption of a Master Thief: '''Hatred''' towards rivals, '''Lust for Power''' to have everything you want, '''Jealousy''' for not getting what you ''think'' you deserve and '''Ego''' to prove that you are the best, and that nobody should be better than you.
* Based on the fridge horror below, [[spoiler:Clockwerk is shown in the background watching the character. Now the reason he doesn't attack Sly or his ancestor is probably cause he may not understand what's going on, why is there another Cooper here in the timeline and how is it he knows the current Coopers' moves and others he didn't know of based on the time period. So instead of attacking him, he's spying on them to discover their strengths and weaknesses so he can formulate a plan of attack. Really adds into the ParanoiaFuel.]]
* Based on the fridge horror below, [[spoiler:Clockwerk is shown in the background watching the character. Now the reason he doesn't attack Sly or his ancestor is probably cause he may not understand what's going on, why is there another Cooper here in the timeline and how is it he knows the current Coopers' moves and others he didn't know of based on the time period. So instead of attacking him, he's spying on them to discover their strengths and weaknesses so he can formulate a plan of attack. Really adds into the ParanoiaFuel.]]
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* I just realized, ''every single'' end-game BigBad has some connection to the Coopers: Clockwerk wanted to destroy the Cooper line out of spite and hatred, [[spoiler:Neyla]] Neyla wanted to '''Clockwerk''''s body to cause havoc and destruction, while also trying to destroy the Cooper Gang, Dr. M wanted to steal from the Cooper Vault out of jealousy for [[spoiler:feeling feeling unappreciated for being Sly's Dad's "Brains"]] "Brains" and Le Paradox wanted to erase the Cooper line because [[spoiler:the the Coopers always outshined Le Paradoxes, and wanted to prove that ''he'' is better than every Cooper]].Cooper. Every BigBad is a possible corruption of a Master Thief: '''Hatred''' towards rivals, '''Lust for Power''' to have everything you want, '''Jealousy''' for not getting what you ''think'' you deserve and '''Ego''' to prove that you are the best, and that nobody should be better than you.
* Based on the fridge horror below,[[spoiler:Clockwerk Clockwerk is shown in the background watching the character. Now the reason he doesn't attack Sly or his ancestor is probably cause he may not understand what's going on, why is there another Cooper here in the timeline and how is it he knows the current Coopers' moves and others he didn't know of based on the time period. So instead of attacking him, he's spying on them to discover their strengths and weaknesses so he can formulate a plan of attack. Really adds into the ParanoiaFuel.]]
* Based on the fridge horror below,
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* During some of the hacking segments in ''VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime'', you can occasionally hear an electronic voice saying stuff like ''"What are you doing, Bentley?"''. First time players might be confused be this, until you realize that [[spoiler:Penelope was working for Le Paradox and is a tech whiz on par with Bentley]], isn't it possible that [[spoiler:she]] designed the firewalls and security features on the computers to recognize Bentley's hacking style?
* In ''Honor Among Thieves'', [[spoiler:Sly's Father is shown to display some hints of being a GadgeteerGenius. Dr. M, supposedly being the smart one of their group, may have felt like he wasn't needed due to this, sparking argument among them and eventually leading to their separation]].
* In ''Honor Among Thieves'', [[spoiler:Sly's Father is shown to display some hints of being a GadgeteerGenius. Dr. M, supposedly being the smart one of their group, may have felt like he wasn't needed due to this, sparking argument among them and eventually leading to their separation]].
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* During some of the hacking segments in ''VideoGame/SlyCooperThievesInTime'', you can occasionally hear an electronic voice saying stuff like ''"What are you doing, Bentley?"''. First time players might be confused be this, until you realize that [[spoiler:Penelope Penelope was working for Le Paradox and is a tech whiz on par with Bentley]], Bentley, isn't it possible that [[spoiler:she]] she designed the firewalls and security features on the computers to recognize Bentley's hacking style?
* In ''Honor Among Thieves'',[[spoiler:Sly's Sly's Father is shown to display some hints of being a GadgeteerGenius. Dr. M, supposedly being the smart one of their group, may have felt like he wasn't needed due to this, sparking argument among them and eventually leading to their separation]].separation.
* In ''Honor Among Thieves'',
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* Bentley's increasing MoralDissonance in ''Sly 3'' may be attributed to his [[GeniusCripple condition]] and [[TheResenter feelings of inferiority towards Sly]]. His escapades throughout the course of Sly 2 ''Sly 2'' boosted his self-confidence, only for it all to come crashing down on him at the very end. end (starting with Jean Bison stealing all the Clockwerk Parts) along with Clockwerk's jaws. Frustrated by this, he proceeds to devise plans that show he's no push-over.push-over in spite of what's happened to him. The events in Venice only cemented this issue, getting pushed around by Octavio. And then he finds someone of like mind, only for her to fall for Sly. He even has Sly sit out on jobs that he could pull off easily in "A Cold Alliance", leaving the raccoon a bit confused.
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* It may not feel like much considering who this bitch is, but Neyla actually didn't actually break any laws during the first stage (aside from vandalism, assault...) She already had the key into Dimitri's club due to [[spoiler:being a trusted *snicker* "member" of the Klaww Gang.]]
* The Klaww Gang - not only a reference to how Arpeggio's being the leader and a bird, but how they are using the Clockwerk parts for their own ends, [[spoiler:Arpeggio's plan to become immortal in Clockwerk's body]] but also how [[spoiler:''cats'' (i.e. Neyla) have claws!]]
* It's actually quite easy to tell who the Black Knight is, not just because his plate has a [[spoiler:Penelope logo]], but the chapter and villain name also give it away: '''Mice''' and '''Mech'''s ([[spoiler:Penelope is a '''mouse''' who was a '''mecha'''nic]]) and the villain's name is '''Black''' Knight. ([[spoiler:Similar to Penelope's other villain persona, the '''Black''' Baron.]])
* The Klaww Gang - not only a reference to how Arpeggio's being the leader and a bird, but how they are using the Clockwerk parts for their own ends, [[spoiler:Arpeggio's plan to become immortal in Clockwerk's body]] but also how [[spoiler:''cats'' (i.e. Neyla) have claws!]]
* It's actually quite easy to tell who the Black Knight is, not just because his plate has a [[spoiler:Penelope logo]], but the chapter and villain name also give it away: '''Mice''' and '''Mech'''s ([[spoiler:Penelope is a '''mouse''' who was a '''mecha'''nic]]) and the villain's name is '''Black''' Knight. ([[spoiler:Similar to Penelope's other villain persona, the '''Black''' Baron.]])
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* It may not feel like much considering who this bitch is, but Neyla actually didn't actually break any laws during the first stage (aside from vandalism, assault...) She already had the key into Dimitri's club due to [[spoiler:being being a trusted *snicker* "member" of the Klaww Gang.]]
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* The Klaww Gang - not only a reference to how Arpeggio's being the leader and a bird, but how they are using the Clockwerk parts for their own ends,[[spoiler:Arpeggio's Arpeggio's plan to become immortal in Clockwerk's body]] body but also how [[spoiler:''cats'' ''cats'' (i.e. Neyla) have claws!]]
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* It's actually quite easy to tell who the Black Knight is, not just because his plate hasa [[spoiler:Penelope logo]], an obvious Penelope logo, but the chapter and villain name also give it away: '''Mice''' and '''Mech'''s ([[spoiler:Penelope (Penelope is a '''mouse''' who was a '''mecha'''nic]]) '''mecha'''nic) and the villain's name is '''Black''' Knight. ([[spoiler:Similar Knight... similar to Penelope's other villain persona, the '''Black''' Baron.]])
* The Klaww Gang - not only a reference to how Arpeggio's being the leader and a bird, but how they are using the Clockwerk parts for their own ends,
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** This could also explain the FurryConfusion ever-present in the series ([[spoiler: Muggshot's guards being both anthropomorphic and non-anthropomorphic dogs, fauna pigs existing in ''Sly 4'' when that game and ''Sly 2'' and ''3'' having various different types of pig enemies, ''Lupus Gigantormus'' existing while there are werewolf guards in ''Sly 2'', beast-of-burden elephants existing in ''Sly 2'' while Miss Decibel and the wooly mammoth guards in ''Sly 4'' are fully sapient, etc]]). Sapience on the planet could be so recent that there could still be animals being animals while certain breeds of the genus could have developed sentience and be considered citizens subjected to laws and rights.
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** This could also explain the FurryConfusion ever-present in the series ([[spoiler: Muggshot's (Muggshot's guards being both anthropomorphic and non-anthropomorphic dogs, fauna pigs existing in ''Sly 4'' when that game and ''Sly 2'' and ''3'' having various different types of pig enemies, ''Lupus Gigantormus'' existing while there are werewolf guards in ''Sly 2'', beast-of-burden elephants existing in ''Sly 2'' while Miss Decibel and the wooly mammoth guards in ''Sly 4'' are fully sapient, etc]]).etc). Sapience on the planet could be so recent that there could still be animals being animals while certain breeds of the genus could have developed sentience and be considered citizens subjected to laws and rights.
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* Penelope is a mouse. [[spoiler: In ''Thieves in Time'', she ends up ''ratting'' the Cooper Gang out to Le Paradox]].
* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful and dangerous explosives, despite possessing only the humblest materials his impoverished background would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective.
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* Penelope is a mouse. [[spoiler: In ''Thieves in Time'', she ends up ''ratting'' the Cooper Gang out to Le Paradox]].Paradox.
* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful and dangerous explosives, despite possessing only the humblest materials his impoverished background would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective. And unlike others in his profession, his background gives him the ability to quickly improvise under pressure; an expert relying on more conventional explosives wouldn't be able to quickly make more on a rickety pirate ship while a giant squid is attacking, for example.
* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful and dangerous explosives, despite possessing only the humblest materials his impoverished background would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective. And unlike others in his profession, his background gives him the ability to quickly improvise under pressure; an expert relying on more conventional explosives wouldn't be able to quickly make more on a rickety pirate ship while a giant squid is attacking, for example.
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* In the 6th world of Sly 2, the gang has to jump onto trains (or Iron Horses) to steal [[spoiler:the Clockwerk Stomach and lungs]]. How exactly do they get off of the trains? Jumping off of trains moving that fast probably isn't exactly safe, even if they're jumping into something soft like snow. The train would probably stop eventually due to [[spoiler:the removal of its power source]], but by then guards would probably be checking to see what's wrong, and there's not exactly a ton of places to hide on the train. Also, if the length of time that they're on the train is any indication, they're quite far from the main village where the safe house is, so it'd be a long walk back, especially considering how cold it is.
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* In the 6th world of Sly 2, the gang has to jump onto trains (or Iron Horses) to steal [[spoiler:the the Clockwerk Stomach and lungs]].lungs. How exactly do they get off of the trains? Jumping off of trains moving that fast probably isn't exactly safe, even if they're jumping into something soft like snow. The train would probably stop eventually due to [[spoiler:the the removal of its power source]], source, but by then guards would probably be checking to see what's wrong, and there's not exactly a ton of places to hide on the train. Also, if the length of time that they're on the train is any indication, they're quite far from the main village where the safe house is, so it'd be a long walk back, especially considering how cold it is.
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* [[spoiler:Clockwerk's cameos]] in Sly 4. [[spoiler:You can see him and his robo-falcons perched along the various levels. It's really easy (and scary) to say that you may have been playing as the ancestors ''right before their deaths at the hands of Clockwerk'' as they finally go back to their respective timelines at the end of the game.]]
** [[spoiler:Even creepier if you discover him relatively close to where you begin a mission or where you were looking for collectibles. Such as in Mice and Mechs, where he is perched on the clock tower. Meaning if you happened to be exploring that tower, he was right on top of you the whole time.]]
*** [[spoiler:Made yet more creepy by the fact that Clockwerk basically knows about Sly's time-traveling now and just happens to be wherever he goes. The setup for the plot of Sly 5 anyone?]]
*** [[spoiler:Here's a REAL creep factor for you: How can Clockwerk be fully robotic during time periods when advanced cybernetics hadn't been INVENTED, yet...unless this is the PRESENT Clockwerk, somehow back from the dead and following Sly and his friends through time?]]
** [[spoiler:Even creepier if you discover him relatively close to where you begin a mission or where you were looking for collectibles. Such as in Mice and Mechs, where he is perched on the clock tower. Meaning if you happened to be exploring that tower, he was right on top of you the whole time.]]
*** [[spoiler:Made yet more creepy by the fact that Clockwerk basically knows about Sly's time-traveling now and just happens to be wherever he goes. The setup for the plot of Sly 5 anyone?]]
*** [[spoiler:Here's a REAL creep factor for you: How can Clockwerk be fully robotic during time periods when advanced cybernetics hadn't been INVENTED, yet...unless this is the PRESENT Clockwerk, somehow back from the dead and following Sly and his friends through time?]]
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* [[spoiler:Clockwerk's cameos]] Clockwerk's cameos in Sly 4. [[spoiler:You ''Sly 4''. You can see him and his robo-falcons perched along the various levels. It's really easy (and scary) to say that you may have been playing as the ancestors ''right before their deaths at the hands of Clockwerk'' as they finally go back to their respective timelines at the end of the game.]]
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**[[spoiler:Even Even creepier if you discover him relatively close to where you begin a mission or where you were looking for collectibles. Such as in Mice and Mechs, where he is perched on the clock tower. Meaning if you happened to be exploring that tower, he was right on top of you the whole time.]]
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***[[spoiler:Made Made yet more creepy by the fact that Clockwerk basically knows about Sly's time-traveling now and just happens to be wherever he goes. The setup for the plot of Sly 5 anyone?]]
''Sly 5'' anyone?
***[[spoiler:Here's Here's a REAL creep factor for you: How can Clockwerk be fully robotic during time periods when advanced cybernetics hadn't been INVENTED, yet...yet... unless this is the PRESENT Clockwerk, somehow back from the dead and following Sly and his friends through time?]]time?
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** [[spoiler:Seems like they're just easter eggs and never really are "canon" in a sense, since especially you can find a piece of his eye.]]
*** [[spoiler:Unless they aren't the original Clockwerk, just some knockoff (or knockoffs?) someone made from scratch to stalk Sly's gang, since they appear much smaller than he did.]]
*** [[spoiler:Unless they aren't the original Clockwerk, just some knockoff (or knockoffs?) someone made from scratch to stalk Sly's gang, since they appear much smaller than he did.]]
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** [[spoiler:Seems Seems like they're just easter eggs and never really are "canon" in a sense, since especially you can find a piece of his eye.]]
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** Except... It doesn't actually escape, It just returns to it's little cage. But considering small cage door is open, it's possible.
* ''Thieves in Time'' provided an AccidentalAesop in the form of "don't trust people you met on the internet". [[spoiler:That was how the Cooper Gang met Penelope, who turned out to be a villainous GoldDigger]].
* [[spoiler:If you look closely, the relationship between Bentley and Penelope was an abusive one]].
** [[spoiler:In the third game, Penelope was prideful, obsessed with winning, and had an initial SoreLoser complex before she was outed as the Black Barron. These were dropped, but several times, she showed a lot of pride when others complimented her, and when forced to stay behind with [=LeFwee=], she did ''not'' take that very well, especially since '''Sly''' ordered her to stay. In a way, she only fell for Bentley because he actually showed concern for her safely in front of her]].
** [[spoiler:Now a couple, it looked as through Penelope actually cared for Bentley. But her negative traits got the better of her as time passed on. She began to see Bentley as less of a person, and more of a ticket to vast wealth and power, and started to resent Sly for being the main reason why Bentley is not up to his full potential. Penelope has never come to consider ''Bentley's'' feelings when it comes to their projects. She's far too possessive and selfish to realize that he views Sly as a brother, and would never betray him even after seeing what became of Dr. M, and he knows that Sly cares for him as a brother as well. Her mistake in betraying Bentley backfired badly, and now she's dumped, friendless and broke, with Bentley now imagining her as one of his "inner demons"]].
* Just ''how much'' did that champagne Carmelita bought to drink when she captures Sly cost if [[spoiler:his escape at the end of second game drove her to become a homicidal KnightTemplar against all criminals in the third]]?
* [[spoiler:Penelope]] said she wanted to design and sell weapons for billions of dollars, but because she's a well-known criminal, most militaries won't accept them. And note that this world is pretty much like our own apart from being populated with animals, and has mentions of historic people like Shakespeare. Which brings the ultimate question: is her desire for money so extreme, that she's willing to sell these weapons to ''Islamic terrorist organizations and North Korea''!?
** Another note is that [[spoiler:Penelope]] has set herself up in 1301, during which Edward I of England and his son, the future Edward II, would invade Scotland in an attempt to take it. There's a strong chance she may be using Operation Overlord to conquer both England and Scotland while they're engaged in war.
* ''Thieves in Time'' provided an AccidentalAesop in the form of "don't trust people you met on the internet". [[spoiler:That was how the Cooper Gang met Penelope, who turned out to be a villainous GoldDigger]].
* [[spoiler:If you look closely, the relationship between Bentley and Penelope was an abusive one]].
** [[spoiler:In the third game, Penelope was prideful, obsessed with winning, and had an initial SoreLoser complex before she was outed as the Black Barron. These were dropped, but several times, she showed a lot of pride when others complimented her, and when forced to stay behind with [=LeFwee=], she did ''not'' take that very well, especially since '''Sly''' ordered her to stay. In a way, she only fell for Bentley because he actually showed concern for her safely in front of her]].
** [[spoiler:Now a couple, it looked as through Penelope actually cared for Bentley. But her negative traits got the better of her as time passed on. She began to see Bentley as less of a person, and more of a ticket to vast wealth and power, and started to resent Sly for being the main reason why Bentley is not up to his full potential. Penelope has never come to consider ''Bentley's'' feelings when it comes to their projects. She's far too possessive and selfish to realize that he views Sly as a brother, and would never betray him even after seeing what became of Dr. M, and he knows that Sly cares for him as a brother as well. Her mistake in betraying Bentley backfired badly, and now she's dumped, friendless and broke, with Bentley now imagining her as one of his "inner demons"]].
* Just ''how much'' did that champagne Carmelita bought to drink when she captures Sly cost if [[spoiler:his escape at the end of second game drove her to become a homicidal KnightTemplar against all criminals in the third]]?
* [[spoiler:Penelope]] said she wanted to design and sell weapons for billions of dollars, but because she's a well-known criminal, most militaries won't accept them. And note that this world is pretty much like our own apart from being populated with animals, and has mentions of historic people like Shakespeare. Which brings the ultimate question: is her desire for money so extreme, that she's willing to sell these weapons to ''Islamic terrorist organizations and North Korea''!?
** Another note is that [[spoiler:Penelope]] has set herself up in 1301, during which Edward I of England and his son, the future Edward II, would invade Scotland in an attempt to take it. There's a strong chance she may be using Operation Overlord to conquer both England and Scotland while they're engaged in war.
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** Except... It doesn't actually escape, It it just returns to it's its little cage. But considering said small cage door is open, it's possible.
* ''Thieves in Time'' provided an AccidentalAesop in the form of "don't trust people you met on the internet".[[spoiler:That That was how the Cooper Gang met Penelope, who turned out to be a villainous GoldDigger]].
GoldDigger.
*[[spoiler:If If you look closely, the relationship between Bentley and Penelope was is an abusive one]].
one from the start.
**[[spoiler:In In the third game, Penelope was is prideful, obsessed with winning, and had has an initial SoreLoser complex before she was she's outed as the Black Barron. Baron. These were apparently dropped, but several times, times throughout the story, she showed shows a lot of pride when others complimented compliment her, and when forced to stay behind with [=LeFwee=], she did does ''not'' take that very well, especially since '''Sly''' ordered orders her to stay. In a way, she only fell for Bentley because he actually showed shows concern for her safely safety in front of her]].
her and proved himself willing to sacrifice himself for her.
**[[spoiler:Now Now a couple, it looked looks as through Penelope actually cared cares for Bentley. But her negative traits got eventually get the better of her as time passed passes on. She began slowly begins to see Bentley as less of a person, and more of a guaranteed ticket to vast wealth and power, and started starts to resent Sly for being the main reason why Bentley is not up to his full potential. "full potential", as defined solely by her. Penelope has never come comes to consider ''Bentley's'' feelings when it comes to their projects. She's far too possessive and selfish to realize that he views Sly as a brother, and would never betray him even after seeing what became of Dr. M, and he knows that Sly cares for him as a brother as well. Her mistake in betraying Bentley backfired backfires badly, and now she's dumped, friendless and broke, with Bentley now imagining her as one of his "inner demons"]].
demons".
* Just ''how much'' did that champagne Carmelita bought to drink when she captures Sly cost if[[spoiler:his his escape at the end of second game drove her to become a homicidal KnightTemplar against all criminals in the third]]?
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*[[spoiler:Penelope]] Penelope said she wanted to design and sell weapons for billions of dollars, but because she's a well-known criminal, most militaries won't accept them. And note that this world is pretty much like our own apart from being populated with animals, and has mentions of historic people like Shakespeare. Which brings the ultimate question: is her desire for money so extreme, that she's willing to sell these weapons to ''Islamic terrorist organizations and North Korea''!?
** Another note is that[[spoiler:Penelope]] Penelope has set herself up in 1301, during which Edward I of England and his son, the future Edward II, would invade Scotland in an attempt to take it. There's a strong chance she may be using Operation Overlord to conquer both England and Scotland while they're engaged in war.
* ''Thieves in Time'' provided an AccidentalAesop in the form of "don't trust people you met on the internet".
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*While Episode 1 of ''Thieves in Time'' being titled ''Turning Japanese'' may come across as an [[ShallowParody easy reference]] in name only, it is worth mentioning that the song is about the emotional fallout of a failed relationship (though it's often mistakenly assumed to be about [[ADateWithRosiePalms something less appropriate]]). Considering the prologue right before Episode 1 involves Sly and Carmelita's breakup, the title might have a bit more depth to it on second glance.
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** Likewise, his ''Honor Among Thieves'' voice blends the two takes together, much like how he reconciles his soft and violent sides together by the time "An Opera of Fear" ends.
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* In ''Sly 1'', even if he could understand the Thievius Raccoonus pages he stole, Muggshot ''still'' wouldn't have a use for the skills discussed in them. He's simply much too large and [[TopHeavyGuy disproportionate]] to perform a rail walk or rail slide.
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* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful and dangerous explosives, despite possessing the humblest materials his impoverished background would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective.
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* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful and dangerous explosives, despite possessing only the humblest materials his impoverished background would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective.
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* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, he crafted powerful explosives despite his impoverished background only allowing for humble materials. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective.
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* In ''Sly 3'', Bentley settles for the Panda King as the most viable choice for the gang's demolitions expert. As Sly addresses in "A Cold Alliance's" opening narration, this is a ''very'' strange choice that could greatly threaten the team if things go wrong. While still a viable concern, it fails to account for Panda King's skills -- or, more specifically, the limitations he faced to develop them. After all, in his youth, he crafted powerful explosives and dangerous explosives, despite possessing the humblest materials his impoverished background only allowing for humble materials.would allow. Objectively, he may not be the best demolitions expert available, but Panda King ''is'' the most efficient for the Cooper Gang's Kaine Island heist, requiring minimal time and budget to be ''extremely'' effective.
