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* What would have happened to the future of the UK If Ruber [[TheBadGuyWins successfully]] conquered Camelot and killed King Arthur and the other heroes?

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* What would have happened to [[BadFuture the future future]] [[AlternateHistory of the UK UK]] If Ruber [[TheBadGuyWins successfully]] conquered Camelot and killed King Arthur and the other heroes?
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* Maybe it would've been nice for the Stone to heal Garrett of his blindness. But his lack of vision doesn't hinder Garrett, and it doesn't stop Kayley from loving him. Also, [[UnfortunateImplications from a writing standpoint, it probably would've sent the message that disabled people can't adjust and live happily]].

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* Maybe it would've been nice for the Stone to heal Garrett of his blindness. But his lack of vision doesn't hinder Garrett, and it doesn't stop Kayley from loving him. Also, [[UnfortunateImplications from a writing standpoint, it probably would've sent the message that disabled people can't adjust and live happily]].happily.



* Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan [[ADateWithRosiePalms later that night.]]

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* Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan [[ADateWithRosiePalms later that night.]]
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** "[[Film/SnakesOnAPlane You'd be surprised at what a man can do with one hand.]]"

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** "[[Film/SnakesOnAPlane You'd be surprised at what a man can do with one hand.]]"]]"
* What would have happened to the future of the UK If Ruber [[TheBadGuyWins successfully]] conquered Camelot and killed King Arthur and the other heroes?
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It always bugged me that people (like the nostalgia critic) don't figure out who Ruber means with that line



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* Ruber mentioning he bought his potion from some Witches makes sense, when you remember there are Witches in Arthurian Legend like Morgana Le Fay, Nimue and Morgause. Many stories feature them having a rivalry or enmity with Arthur, so they would be willing to help Ruber conquer Camelot.
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* Maybe it would've been nice for the Stone to heal Garrett of his blindness. But his lack of vision doesn't hinder Garrett. Also, [[UnfortunateImplications from a writing standpoint, it probably would've sent the message that disabled people can't adjust and live happily]].

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* Maybe it would've been nice for the Stone to heal Garrett of his blindness. But his lack of vision doesn't hinder Garrett.Garrett, and it doesn't stop Kayley from loving him. Also, [[UnfortunateImplications from a writing standpoint, it probably would've sent the message that disabled people can't adjust and live happily]].
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* It seems strange that King Arthur of Pendragon would knight someone as obviously unhinged and selfish as Ruber, indicating that he's a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter. But then you remember how wartorn England is implied to have been ten years before the movie, and say what you want about Ruber but he's certainly an exceptionally powerful and determined warrior. It's not unlikely that he actually did play a large part in Arthur's success at conquering and bringing peace to England, which would also lend some justification to his feelings that he deserves a proportionally large share of the rewards. Add to that that insanity tends to escalate over time, and it's possible Ruber was a very different man before being cooped up for ten to twenty years in a peaceful and stable country that no longer suited his brutal politics or way of life.
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* Maybe it would've been nice for the Stone to heal Garrett of his blindness. But his lack of vision doesn't hinder Garrett. Also, [[UnfortunateImplications from a writing standpoint, it probably would've sent the message that disabled people can't adjust and live happily]].
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* Wonder why everything is alive in the Forbidden Forest? Myth/CelticMythology is famously animistic.
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** "[[SnakesOnAPlane You'd be surprised at what a man can do with one hand.]]"

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** "[[SnakesOnAPlane "[[Film/SnakesOnAPlane You'd be surprised at what a man can do with one hand.]]"
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* Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan [[ADateWithRosiePalms later that night.]]

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* Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan [[ADateWithRosiePalms later that night.]]]]
** "[[SnakesOnAPlane You'd be surprised at what a man can do with one hand.]]"
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* [[ADateWithRosiePalms Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan later that night.]]

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* [[ADateWithRosiePalms Perhaps Ruber would have had second thoughts about his EvilPlan [[ADateWithRosiePalms later that night.]]
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* [[ADateWithRosiePalms If Ruber was right handed, perhaps he would have had second thoughts about his plan later that night.]]

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* [[ADateWithRosiePalms If Perhaps Ruber was right handed, perhaps he would have had second thoughts about his plan EvilPlan later that night.]]
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* Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!

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* Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!good!
* [[ADateWithRosiePalms If Ruber was right handed, perhaps he would have had second thoughts about his plan later that night.]]
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* Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!

!!FridgeLogic:
* The two-headed dragon: One head has an American accent, and the other is British. Yeah, yeah, it's a kids' movie, but still.
* Also, the sword in the stone's magic heals all injuries in Camelot, and even separates the two-headed dragon, but it doesn't restore Garret's eyesight. This is almost certainly a case of ReedRichardsIsUseless, however, as the film would have been presenting most UnfortunateImplications to children about handicapped people's worthiness if it had.
** ...DisabilitySuperpower exclusion?
** Perhaps it only fixed magic-related injuries (restores the weapon-warriors, heals Arthur who was hurt by the Griffon, separated the dragons, and so on). Garret's blindness was the result of a blow to the head during a stable fire.
*** I wouldn't exactly call King Arthur's injury from the griffon being magic-related.
*** He was injured by a magical creature: ergo, it was magical in origin, though not necessarily in nature.
* This is perhaps the biggest fault that the film has, what with the random magical plants, the modern references, and Bladebeak's personality changes... besides the random singing (but that's the [[ExecutiveMeddling executives' fault]]).
* Why didn't Garret use some magic plant to cure his blindness? I think he tried, but the PowersThatBe decided it was cool for him to be blind...
* It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon gets split into two, but they almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.
** That actually ''does'' make sense. Well reasoned.
* How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?
** It was probably simpler to not have to continuously keep track of a tear in Garret's clothes. Fixing the clothes just made it easier on the animators. Plus, its magic. Don't try to explain it.

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* Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!

!!FridgeLogic:
* The two-headed dragon: One head has an American accent, and the other is British. Yeah, yeah, it's a kids' movie, but still.
* Also, the sword in the stone's magic heals all injuries in Camelot, and even separates the two-headed dragon, but it doesn't restore Garret's eyesight. This is almost certainly a case of ReedRichardsIsUseless, however, as the film would have been presenting most UnfortunateImplications to children about handicapped people's worthiness if it had.
** ...DisabilitySuperpower exclusion?
** Perhaps it only fixed magic-related injuries (restores the weapon-warriors, heals Arthur who was hurt by the Griffon, separated the dragons, and so on). Garret's blindness was the result of a blow to the head during a stable fire.
*** I wouldn't exactly call King Arthur's injury from the griffon being magic-related.
*** He was injured by a magical creature: ergo, it was magical in origin, though not necessarily in nature.
* This is perhaps the biggest fault that the film has, what with the random magical plants, the modern references, and Bladebeak's personality changes... besides the random singing (but that's the [[ExecutiveMeddling executives' fault]]).
* Why didn't Garret use some magic plant to cure his blindness? I think he tried, but the PowersThatBe decided it was cool for him to be blind...
* It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon gets split into two, but they almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.
** That actually ''does'' make sense. Well reasoned.
* How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?
** It was probably simpler to not have to continuously keep track of a tear in Garret's clothes. Fixing the clothes just made it easier on the animators. Plus, its magic. Don't try to explain it.
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**** He was injured by a magical creature: ergo, it was magical in origin, though not necessarily in nature.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why Ruber's VillainSong looks more like a mediocre poem. The guy is completely and utterly insane, so of course he wouldn't be able to construct a proper song.
** Devon and Cornwall get a tiny example -- ''maybe'' -- following their weird duet about wanting to be separate. Garret reluctantly allows them to come along on the condition that there be "No singing!" Devon inquires how Garret feels "about interpretive dance." ''The man is blind.'' The question mark for the FridgeBrilliance lies in whether or not Devon was aware of Garret's disability at the time.
* FridgeHorror: Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!
* FridgeLogic: The two-headed dragon: One head has an American accent, and the other is British. Yeah, yeah, it's a kids' movie, but still.
** Also, the sword in the stone's magic heals all injuries in Camelot, and even separates the two-headed dragon, but it doesn't restore Garret's eyesight. This is almost certainly a case of ReedRichardsIsUseless, however, as the film would have been presenting most UnfortunateImplications to children about handicapped people's worthiness if it had.
*** ...DisabilitySuperpower exclusion?
*** Perhaps it only fixed magic-related injuries (restores the weapon-warriors, heals Arthur who was hurt by the Griffon, separated the dragons, and so on). Garret's blindness was the result of a blow to the head during a stable fire.
**** I wouldn't exactly call King Arthur's injury from the griffon being magic-related.
** This is perhaps the biggest fault that the film has, what with the random magical plants, the modern references, and Bladebeak's personality changes... besides the random singing (but that's the [[ExecutiveMeddling executives' fault]]).
** Why didn't Garret use some magic plant to cure his blindness? I think he tried, but the PowersThatBe decided it was cool for him to be blind...
** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon gets split into two, but they almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.
*** That actually ''does'' make sense. Well reasoned.
** How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?
*** It was probably simpler to not have to continuously keep track of a tear in Garret's clothes. Fixing the clothes just made it easier on the animators. Plus, its magic. Don't try to explain it.

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!!FridgeBrilliance:
* FridgeBrilliance: Why Ruber's VillainSong looks more like a mediocre poem. The guy is completely and utterly insane, so of course he wouldn't be able to construct a proper song.
** * Devon and Cornwall get a tiny example -- ''maybe'' -- following their weird duet about wanting to be separate. Garret reluctantly allows them to come along on the condition that there be "No singing!" Devon inquires how Garret feels "about interpretive dance." ''The man is blind.'' The question mark for the FridgeBrilliance lies in whether or not Devon was aware of Garret's disability at the time.
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!!FridgeHorror:
* FridgeHorror: Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!
good!

!!FridgeLogic:
* FridgeLogic: The two-headed dragon: One head has an American accent, and the other is British. Yeah, yeah, it's a kids' movie, but still.
** * Also, the sword in the stone's magic heals all injuries in Camelot, and even separates the two-headed dragon, but it doesn't restore Garret's eyesight. This is almost certainly a case of ReedRichardsIsUseless, however, as the film would have been presenting most UnfortunateImplications to children about handicapped people's worthiness if it had.
*** ...** ...DisabilitySuperpower exclusion?
*** ** Perhaps it only fixed magic-related injuries (restores the weapon-warriors, heals Arthur who was hurt by the Griffon, separated the dragons, and so on). Garret's blindness was the result of a blow to the head during a stable fire.
**** *** I wouldn't exactly call King Arthur's injury from the griffon being magic-related.
** * This is perhaps the biggest fault that the film has, what with the random magical plants, the modern references, and Bladebeak's personality changes... besides the random singing (but that's the [[ExecutiveMeddling executives' fault]]).
** * Why didn't Garret use some magic plant to cure his blindness? I think he tried, but the PowersThatBe decided it was cool for him to be blind...
** * It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon gets split into two, but they almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.
*** ** That actually ''does'' make sense. Well reasoned.
** * How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?
*** ** It was probably simpler to not have to continuously keep track of a tear in Garret's clothes. Fixing the clothes just made it easier on the animators. Plus, its magic. Don't try to explain it.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why Ruber's VillainSong looks more like a mediocre poem.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why Ruber's VillainSong looks more like a mediocre poem. The guy is completely and utterly insane, so of course he wouldn't be able to construct a proper song.

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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.

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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's gets split into two, but the they almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun sees himself as blind]] , so blind he stays.stays.
*** That actually ''does'' make sense. Well reasoned.
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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, {{StealthPun/sees himself as blind}} , so blind he stays.

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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, {{StealthPun/sees [[StealthPun sees himself as blind}} blind]] , so blind he stays.
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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun/sees himself as blind]], so blind he stays.

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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, [[StealthPun/sees {{StealthPun/sees himself as blind]], blind}} , so blind he stays.
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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, sees himself as blind, so blind he stays.

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** It's fairly simple really. The magic at the end doesn't actually heal anyone, it just makes them fit their self-image. Yes, the dragon get's split into two, but the almost immediately merge back together. The mooks still thought of themselves as people, Bladebeak still thought of himself as a chicken and King Arthur thought of himself as having a working arm. Garret, on the other hand, sees [[StealthPun/sees himself as blind, blind]], so blind he stays.
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* FridgeHorror: Were the bad guys planning on ''eating'' Bladebeak's wife when the whole thing was done? Dear ''God'' no wonder he went good!
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** How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?

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** How about the healing leaf that Kayley applies to Garret's wound, which ''magically'' heals him without a scar? I could actually buy that, more or less, but how does it ''repair his clothing too''?too''?
*** It was probably simpler to not have to continuously keep track of a tear in Garret's clothes. Fixing the clothes just made it easier on the animators. Plus, its magic. Don't try to explain it.
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**** I wouldn't exactly call King Arthur's injury from the griffon being magic-related.

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