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* TVTropesWillRuinYourLife in action here. Combusken has been described on this site as somewhat...phallic, and it's kinda true. Combusken also happens to be a 3-foot-tall ''chicken'' that, like all starter Pokémon, is primarily male. In other words... [[StealthPun it's a giant cock]]. For bonus points, it learns Peck, making it... a pecker.

* Gardevoir has the misfortune of being named in the Japanese world as ''Sirknight''. You wouldn't call a feminine-looking Gardevoir as "Sir," nor do they have anything in their appearance (but maybe in their nature) that would suggest them as knightly. Now, fast forward three generations later, and they introduce the Fairy type, and they rehaul Gardevoir to be a dual Psychic/Fairy type. Fairies notably are the bane of the Dragons' existence, being strong against Dragons and immune to their attacks. Now, what is the specialty of knights in fiction? ''Slaying dragons''.

** Even better, the Pokédex was created by ''humans''. Because people thought Absol was causing disasters instead of warning people of them, it was classified a Dark/Evil type.

* Whenever you catch a Luvdisc, they'll be holding a Heart Scale, which you can put in the bag and trade. At first, I thought this implied that the protagonist would skin the Luvdisc after capture, but after some research, it turns out that certain fish (goldfish spring to mind) drop their scales if they have been in a fight. Handily providing a good explanation for why you can find Heart Scales at the sea bottom — Luvdisc would probably be fighting in the depths, and not all trainers on a grinding spree would care about collecting the dropped scales!

** The move Groudon uses in order to KO Kyogre is the special, Grass-type Solarbeam. Kyogre can use any Water attack or Ice attack to KO Groudon. Not to mention that Groudon is playing off its weaker Attack stat and Kyogre's stronger Defense stat ''and'' doesn't get STAB, while Kyogre is getting the better end of both conditions. Groudon is still pretty much screwed against Kyogre.

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* TVTropesWillRuinYourLife in action here. Combusken has been described on this site as somewhat...phallic, and it's kinda true. Combusken also happens to be a 3-foot-tall ''chicken'' that, like all starter Pokémon, is primarily male. In other words...[[StealthPun it's a giant cock]].
** And it learns Peck, making it...a pecker. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

** I don't get it, what's the Fridge here?
*** I think the OP is implying that Gardevoirs are MamaBear happy Pokémon, maternal instincts and all are not usually gender neutral... at least in America.

* I always wondered why Zangoose can't be taught how to use HM 01 Cut, even though they have sharp claws. I realized that it's because of their generations-long feud with Seviper; wild Zangoose have never used their claws for anything but combat, and so they cannot grasp the concept of cutting trees for utilitarian purposes.
** I recently learned that the move Cut in Japanese is a reference to iaido, a sword-art with noncombatant roots that involves unsheathing the sword, cutting the target, then sheathing the sword again. Zangoose can't learn Cut, because they are always prepared for battle with Seviper and won't "sheathe" their claws. Seviper also, despite their blade-edged tail, cannot learn Cut for the same reasons.

** Or it's simply to represent the ugly fish changing when it becomes beautiful enough. However, I do believe that the reason why the Modest nature enjoys Dry Pokéblocks is because the developers didn't want to make it even harder to get a strong Special Attacker like Milotic.
** This troper believes it's a nod to the fact that many people who are considered conventionally beautiful/handsome [[IAmNotPretty don't describe themselves as such]] — or they're never satisfied with their looks (just look at how big plastic surgery is in Asia despite being a relatively young industry). It starts life as an ugly fish and evolution involves trying to be as pretty as possible. Even with attaining enough beauty to evolve, its most preferred nature is modest — not just due to being a special attacker, but because Milotic may still be self-conscious about how it looks. Assuming it wins all contests in the Beauty division, it may wonder why and still see itself as an ugly little fish and not a rainbow-colored serpent.
* Dark-types are usually cruel, but Absol warns people of disasters before they happen. The 'Dex says that since they were easy scapegoats for the disasters, people hunted them down. I figure that to protect themselves, they [[CombatPragmatist developed more vicious moves]], which is why they're Dark-typed. But they [[ChronicHeroSyndrome never dropped their old habits]].
** No, even better, the Pokédex was created by ''humans''. Because people thought Absol was causing disasters instead of warning people of them, it was classified a Dark/Evil type.
*** That actually makes no sense at all. If Absol was mistakenly identified as a Dark/Evil type due to human beliefs, and in reality it was a different type, why would Absol have all the Dark type's strengths and weaknesses?
*** Because it's so desperate to prevent the disasters it foresees that it becomes a CombatPragmatist, one of the Dark type's defining traits.

* It bugged me that Kyogre has type advantage over Groudon, when they're supposed to be equals in strength. Then I realized that they ''aren't'' supposed to be equals in strength: In their battle years ago, Kyogre created the ocean, while Groudon created the landmasses. Now, what is there more of on Earth's surface, continent or sea?
** Fridge Brilliance on the Fridge Brilliance: Groudon and Kyogre have the same base Speed stat, so it's a tossup as to which one would strike first. Both could get Super Effective hits on each other. They are almost completely evenly matched.
** FridgeLogic on ''that'' Fridge Brilliance in regards to the ''other'' Fridge Brilliance: Except that they're not. The move Groudon uses in order to KO Kyogre is the special, Grass-type Solarbeam. Kyogre can use any Water attack or Ice attack to KO Groudon. Not to mention that Groudon is playing off its weaker Attack stat and Kyogre's stronger Defense stat ''and'' doesn't get STAB, while Kyogre is getting the better end of both conditions. Groudon is still pretty much screwed against Kyogre.
*** Why else does Hoenn have more water and surf routes than any other region? And why else is the amount of land and water more even than most other regions? It's Kyogre and Groudon fighting for dominance over the region.

** May I direct you to ''Pokémon Red/Blue Rescue Team''? [[spoiler:The Gardevoir tries to save your silly butt from a curse, is what happens.]]
*** Nope. This is misleading information, as [[spoiler:the player is specifically told by Gardevoir herself that they are not the trainer that Ninetails talked about who let her die. Gardevoir brought the player to the Pokémon world for a separate issue]].
*** Yes, but [[spoiler:we're talking about the trainer who did let her die. If you were to abuse Gardevoir, she would still protect you from a curse — that's what happened in the past. The player character doesn't come into that bit, but it's still relevant to the original point.]]

** FridgeBrilliance here -- in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers Of Sky]]'', a Spoink says that he's lost his pearl, and without it, he's bouncing unpredictably. Since bouncing is what makes their heart pump, erratic bouncing is causing irregular heartbeat — which the pearl is there to balance out!

** On the topic of Skitty, it's in the same egg group as Wailord, meaning it can breed. Either way, Skitty loses.
*** Skitty used Grass Knot. It's Super Effective!

*** I think the OP is implying that Gardevoirs are MamaBear happy pokemon, maternal instincts and all are not usually gender neutral... at least in America.

** Bonus points: Gardevoir, as a Psychic type, are weak to Dark types. When Fairy type was introduced, Gardevoir gained ground against Dark types. Now what does this say about knights? Even if you use every trick in the book, every cheap shot you could hit him with, knights will ''eventually find a way to combat you and defeat you''. As for Fighting types? Well, one should learn that [[NeverBringAKnifeToAGunFight bringing fists to a sword fight is very much not recommended]].
* I always wondered why Zangoose can't be taught how to use HM 01 Cut, even though they have sharp claws. I realized that it's because of their generations long feud with Seviper; wild Zangoose have never used their claws for anything but combat, and so they cannot grasp the concept of cutting trees for utilitarian purposes.

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* TVTropesWillRuinYourLife in action here. Combusken has been described on this site as somewhat...phallic, and it's kinda true. Combusken also happens to be a 3-foot-tall ''chicken'' that, like all starter Pokémon, is primarily male. In other words...[[StealthPun it's a giant cock]]. --SpiriTsunami

** I don't get it, what's the Fridge here? --ChaosKnux

* Dark-types are usually cruel, but Absol warns people of disasters before they happen. The 'Dex says that since they were easy scapegoats for the disasters, people hunted them down. I figure that to protect themselves, they [[CombatPragmatist developed more vicious moves]], which is why they're Dark-typed. But they [[ChronicHeroSyndrome never dropped their old habits]]. Tropers/{{Kingler}}
** No, even better, the Pokédex was created by ''humans''. Because people thought Absol was causing disasters instead of warning people of them, it was classified a Dark/Evil type. Tropers/{{TauCeti}}

* It bugged me that Kyogre has type advantage over Groudon, when they're supposed to be equals in strength. Then I realized that they ''aren't'' supposed to be equals in strength: In their battle years ago, Kyogre created the ocean, while Groudon created the landmasses. Now, what is there more of on Earth's surface, continent or sea? --Dragoryu3000
** Fridge Brilliance on the Fridge Brilliance: Groudon and Kyogre have the same base Speed stat, so it's a tossup as to which one would strike first. Both could get Super Effective hits on each other. They are almost completely evenly matched. --Darkelourd
** FridgeLogic on ''that'' Fridge Brilliance in regards to the ''other'' Fridge Brilliance: Except that they're not. The move Groudon uses in order to KO Kyogre is the special, Grass-type Solarbeam. Kyogre can use any Water attack or Ice attack to KO Groudon. Not to mention that Groudon is playing off its weaker Attack stat and Kyogre's stronger Defense stat ''and'' doesn't get STAB, while Kyogre is getting the better end of both conditions. Groudon is still pretty much screwed against Kyogre. -- [[Tropers.AOTKorby AOTKorby]]
*** Why else does Hoenn have more water and surf routes than any other region? And why else is the amount of land and water more even than most other regions? It's Kyogre and Groudon fighting for dominance over the region. KMan

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* The reason Wailord, a 14.5 meter (47 ft., seven-inch) long whale weighs ''400 kilograms'' (877.4 lbs), roughly the weight of a riding horse, is because it's based on a blimp. It's probably full of air, which gives it an extremely low weight for its size. It's even classified as the "''Float'' Whale" Pokemon.

* Why did Milotic evolve using the Beauty stat at first? It's because "dry" pokéblocks/poffins promote the Beauty Stat, and those are preferred by pokémon with a Modest nature. The Modest nature is valued among Special Attack specialists such as Milotic because it raises the Special Attack stat and reduces the Attack stat (which likely won't be used anyway among them). It's a nod by the developers that your efforts are better focused encouraging a pokémon's strongest stat.
** Or it's simply to represent the ugly fish changing when it becomes beautiful enough. However, I do believe that the reason why the Modest nature enjoys Dry pokéblocks is because the developers didn't want to make it even harder to get a strong Special Attacker like Milotic.
** This troper believes it's a nod to the fact that many people who are considered conventionally beautiful/handsome [[IAmNotPretty don't describe themselves as such]] - or they're never satisfied with their looks (just look at how big plastic surgery is in Asia despite being a relatively young industry). It starts life as an ugly fish and evolution involves trying to be as pretty as possible. Even with attaining enough beauty to evolve, its most preferred nature is modest - not just due to being a special attacker, but because Milotic may still be self conscious about how it looks. Assuming it wins all contests in the Beauty division, it may wonder why and still see itself as an ugly little fish and not a rainbow colored serpent.
* Dark types are usually cruel, but Absol warns people of disasters before they happen. The 'Dex says that since they were easy scapegoats for the disasters, people hunted them down. I figure that to protect themselves, they [[CombatPragmatist developed more vicious moves]], which is why they're Dark typed. But they [[ChronicHeroSyndrome never dropped their old habits]]. Tropers/{{Kingler}}
** No, even better, the Pokedex was created by ''humans''. Because people thought Absol was causing disasters instead of warning people of them, it was classified a Dark/Evil type. Tropers/{{TauCeti}}
*** That actually makes no sense at all. If Absol was mistakenly identified as a Dark/Evil type due to human beliefs, and in reality it was a different type, why would Absol have all the Dark type's strenghts and weaknesses?
* Whenever you catch a Luvdisc, they'll be holding a Heart Scale, which you can put in the bag and trade. At first, I thought this implied that the protagonist would skin the Luvdisc after capture, but after some research it turns out that certain fish (goldfish spring to mind) drop their scales if they have been in a fight. Handily providing a good explanation for why you can find Heart Scales at the sea bottom - Luvdisc would probably be fighting in the depths, and not all trainers on a grinding spree would care about collecting the dropped scales!
* The Whismur line has Soundproof as their main ability, despite having MakeMeWannaShout powers. However, it's possible that they scream so much that they [[NecessaryDrawback deafen themselves]]. Loudred's Sapphire entry even states that it goes temporarily deaf after shouting.

** FridgeLogic on ''that'' Fridge Brilliance in regards to the OTHER Fridge Brilliance: Except that they're not. The move Groudon uses in order to KO Kyogre is the special, Grass-type Solarbeam. Kyogre can use any Water attack or Ice attack to KO Groudon. Not to mention that Groudon is playing off its weaker Attack stat and Kyogre's stronger Defense stat AND doesn't get STAB, while Kyogre is getting the better end of both conditions. Groudon is still pretty much screwed against Kyogre. -- [[Tropers.AOTKorby AOTKorby]]

* Gardevoir is a Pokemon known for being, even by Pokemon standards, highly devoted and protective of their trainers. Now, what happens if a abusive trainer (Paul for example), had a Gardevoir?!
** May I direct you to Pokemon Red/Blue Rescue Team [[spoiler:The Gardevoir tries to save your silly butt from a curse, is what happens]]
*** Nope. This is misleading information as [[spoiler:The player is specifically told by Gardevoir herself that they are not the trainer that Ninetails talked about who let her die. Gardevoir brought the player to the Pokémon world for a separate issue.]]
*** Yes, but [[spoiler:we're talking about the trainer who did let her die. If you were to abuse Gardevoir, she would still protect you from a curse - that's what happened in the past. The player character doesn't come into that bit, but it's still relevant to the original point.]]
* The official Pokédex text describing Spoink says it "bounces around on its tail. The shock of its bouncing makes its heart pump. As a result, this Pokémon cannot afford to stop bouncing - if it stops, its heart will stop." ''What do you think will happen when it faints in a battle? Or worse, when it's been Paralyzed in battle?''
** FridgeBrilliance here -- in ''[[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers Of Sky]]'', a Spoink says that he's lost his pearl, and without it, he's bouncing unpredictably. Since bouncing is what makes their heart pump, erratic bouncing is causing irregular heartbeat -- which the pearl is there to balance out!

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* TVTropesWillRuinYourLife in action here. Over on the Pokémon FetishFuel page, someone mentioned Combusken among Pokémon that look somewhat...phallic, and it's kinda true. Combusken also happens to be a 3-foot-tall ''chicken'' that, like all starter Pokémon, is primarily male. In other words...[[StealthPun it's a giant cock.]] --SpiriTsunami

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* TVTropesWillRuinYourLife in action here. Over on the Pokémon FetishFuel page, someone mentioned Combusken among Pokémon that look somewhat...[[FreudWasRight phallic]], and it's kinda true. Combusken also happens to be a 3-foot-tall ''chicken'' that, like all starter Pokémon, is primarily male. In other words...[[StealthPun it's a giant cock.]] --SpiriTsunami

* The reason Wailord, a 14.5 meter (47 ft., seven-inch) long whale weighs ''400 kilograms'' (877.4 lbs), roughly the weight of a riding horse, is because it's based on a blimp. It's probably full of air, which gives it an extremely low weight for its size.

* Swablu, a little bird, goes from Normal/Flying to Dragon/Flying when it becomes Altaria. It's a play on how birds are considered living dinosaurs. And what else have people referred to dinosaurs and their relatives as? Dragons.

** This troper believes it's a nod to the fact that many people who are considered conventionally beautiful/handsome don't describe themselves as such - or they're never satisfied with their looks (just look at how big plastic surgery is in Asia despite being a relatively young industry). It starts life as an ugly fish and evolution involves trying to be as pretty as possible. Even with attaining enough beauty to evolve, its most preferred nature is modest - not just due to being a special attacker, but because Milotic may still be self conscious about how it looks. Assuming it wins all contests in the Beauty division, it may wonder why and still see itself as an ugly little fish and not a rainbow colored serpent.

*** Nope. This is misleading information as [[spoiler:The player is specifically told by Gardevoir herself that they are not the trainer that Ninetails talked about who let her die. Gardevoir saved the player because the player was the chosen one, not because the player had been her trainer.]]
*** Actually, that's wrong. Gardevoir only [[spoiler:brought you to the Pokémon world. Nothing more, nothing less. You had nothing to do with her being a ghost. ''Gengar,'' on the other hand, turns out to [[WasOnceAMan have been the idiot]] that provoked Ninetales to lay the curse, and Gardevoir protected him.]]

*** Why else does Hoenn have more water and surf routes than any other region? And why else is the amount of land and water more even than most other regions? It's Kyogre and Groudon fighting for dominance over the region. KMan