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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. However, recent developments and new financial opportunities in the North and Far North might give the kingdoms some reprieve from the Iron Bank’s wrath; that and it's doubtful the Iron Bank is going to attack the kingdoms as long as they believe Drogon is still around.

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. However, recent developments and new financial opportunities in the North and Far North might give the kingdoms some reprieve from the Iron Bank’s wrath; that and it's doubtful the Iron Bank is going to attack the kingdoms as long as they believe Drogon is still around.around.
* If being the Three-Eyed Raven is what makes Bran the most qualified to rule, whom are the lords going to elect after he dies if not the next Three-Eyed Raven? Are the Six Kingdoms going to be perpetually ruled by the Three-Eyed Raven?
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*** They are vindicated and rendered obsolete at the same time. They are vindicated as guardians of the living, sure, but what are they guarding the living against now? People know of nothing else beyond the wall, so the current Night Watch is still as good as guarding the realm against mythical beings. The only thing left that might be out there that everyone knows about is the Children of the Forest, but Bran probably tells everyone about how they are or about to be extinct because it's essential to his story. The awareness of the WW probably won't help much, because it's already proven that Southern Lords don't care about the Wall when the WW has already breached it. The only reason left for the NW to exist is as a glorified penal colony and dumping ground for unwanted people, which is no good reason.

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*** They are vindicated and rendered obsolete at the same time. They are vindicated as guardians of the living, sure, but what are they guarding the living against now? People know of nothing else beyond the wall, Wall, so the current Night Watch is still as good as guarding the realm against mythical beings. The only thing left that might be out there that everyone knows about is the Children of the Forest, but Bran probably tells everyone about how they are or about to be extinct because it's essential to his story. The awareness of the WW probably won't help much, because it's already proven that Southern Lords don't care about the Wall when the WW has already breached it. The only reason left for the NW to exist is as a glorified penal colony and dumping ground for unwanted people, which is no good reason.
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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. However recent developments and new financial opportunities in the North and Far North might give the kingdoms some reprieve from the Iron Bank’s wrath, that and its doubtful the Iron Bank is going to attack the kingdoms as long as they believe Drogon is still around.

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. However However, recent developments and new financial opportunities in the North and Far North might give the kingdoms some reprieve from the Iron Bank’s wrath, wrath; that and its it's doubtful the Iron Bank is going to attack the kingdoms as long as they believe Drogon is still around.
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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. However recent developments and new financial opportunities in the North and Far North might give the kingdoms some reprieve from the Iron Bank’s wrath, that and its doubtful the Iron Bank is going to attack the kingdoms as long as they believe Drogon is still around.
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** Although the show has removed any suggestion that the Three-Eyed Raven before Bran was Brynden Rivers aka Bloodraven. He appears to have been a random guy.
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* There are scenes in the very first two episodes of Season 1 that foreshadow aspects of the ending. When Ned Stark beheads the deserter in King Robert's name and says "rightful King of the Andals and First Men", the camera cuts to Jon, who ''is'' the rightful King, and Bran, who will actually be ''crowned'' King after him. Likewise, the conversation between "Kingslayer" Jaime Lannister and Jon about Jon joining the Night's Watch and the oddly prominent handshake between them. That was Jaime marking Jon as one who'd commit ''the very same crime'' with the Mad King's daughter, no less, and be forced to (re)join the Night's Watch because of it.
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** There's also a massive hole in the Wall now that wasn't there before, necessitating men be there to guard it. One has to remember that as friendly as Tormund and Jon are, the people of Westeros still see the Wildlings as barely-human barbarian savages and can't expect any peace with them to last any real length of time. Aside from that, well, for hundreds of years at least, no one thought the Night's Watch was actually necessary; people in the North thought the White Walkers were long extinct, people in the South thought they never existed, and no one actually considered the Wildlings much of a real threat to the realm -- Mance Rayder's army was only a threat because Robb had taken the northern forces south, and would have crumbled against real opposition, as demonstrated by Stannis. The Night's Watch existed for hundreds of years under the pretense of protecting the realm from threats from the Far North, but in actual practice, existed as a convenient place to send unwanted sons, bastards, and criminals who were politically inconvenient to execute. The fact that the pretenses for the Night's Watch's existence are a lot weaker now don't remove it's practical application as a penal colony and exile.

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** There's also a massive hole in the Wall now that wasn't there before, necessitating men be there to guard it. One has to remember that as friendly as Tormund and Jon are, the people of Westeros still see the Wildlings as barely-human barbarian savages and can't expect any peace with them to last any real length of time. Aside from that, well, for hundreds of years at least, no one thought the Night's Watch was actually necessary; people in the North thought the White Walkers were long extinct, people in the South thought they never existed, and no one actually considered the Wildlings much of a real threat to the realm -- Mance Rayder's army was only a threat because Robb had taken the northern forces south, and would have crumbled against real opposition, as demonstrated by Stannis. The Night's Watch existed for hundreds of years under the pretense of protecting the realm from threats from the Far North, but in actual practice, existed as a convenient place to send unwanted sons, bastards, and criminals who were politically inconvenient to execute. The fact that the pretenses for the Night's Watch's existence are a lot weaker now don't remove it's its practical application as a penal colony and exile.
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*** Tyrion brought the Red Priests to help pacify Meereen; where there's one priest, there's others. Also, religions have historically never had a problem with killing hundreds of thousands of people, especially if they worshipped a different god.
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** This presumes they are [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]], as noted in the YMMV page, under EsotericHappyEnding, the butterflies of Narth are supposed to be lethal to people not ''from'' Narth. If true then their new mission will get the Unsullied killed anyway, with Karma having merely postponed their death sentence until they try and do one last good deed.

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** This presumes they are [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]], as noted in the YMMV page, under EsotericHappyEnding, the butterflies of Narth Naath are supposed to be lethal to people not ''from'' Narth.Naath. If true then their new mission will get the Unsullied killed anyway, with Karma having merely postponed their death sentence until they try and do one last good deed.
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** This presumes they are [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]], as noted in the YNMV page, under EsotericHappyEnding, the butterflies of Narth are supposed to be lethal to people not ''from'' Narth. If true then their new mission will get the Unsullied killed anyway, with Karma having merely postponed their death sentence until they try and do one last good deed.

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** This presumes they are [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]], as noted in the YNMV YMMV page, under EsotericHappyEnding, the butterflies of Narth are supposed to be lethal to people not ''from'' Narth. If true then their new mission will get the Unsullied killed anyway, with Karma having merely postponed their death sentence until they try and do one last good deed.
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* Despite losing her way, in the end Daenerys ''did'' end up "smashing the wheel" as she claimed she intended. Her actions demonstrated to everyone just how dangerous a single person with such unchecked power could be, while her death left a power vacuum, giving the remaining Lords the chance to reform the government into an ElectiveMonarchy, thereby preventing unfit rulers from rising to power.

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* Despite losing her way, in the end Daenerys ''did'' end up "smashing the wheel" as she claimed she intended. Her actions demonstrated to everyone just how dangerous a single person with such unchecked power could be, while her death left a power vacuum, giving the remaining Lords the chance to reform the government into an ElectiveMonarchy, thereby preventing unfit rulers from rising to power.
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** This presumes they are [[KarmaHoudini Karma Houdinis]], as noted in the YNMV page, under EsotericHappyEnding, the butterflies of Narth are supposed to be lethal to people not ''from'' Narth. If true then their new mission will get the Unsullied killed anyway, with Karma having merely postponed their death sentence until they try and do one last good deed.


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** Unless of course, the loss of his family overwhelms him, and he dies of grief.
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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.
* Gilly's situation is not that good. She's pregnant, Maesters are not allowed to marry, and Sam seems to have left her up in the North. What's gonna happen if someone tries to rape her like in Season 5 and Sam and Ghost are not there to save her?

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.
* Gilly's situation is not that good. She's pregnant, Maesters are not allowed to marry, and Sam seems to have left her up in the North. What's gonna happen if someone tries to rape her like in Season 5 and Sam and Ghost are not there to save her?
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** The Houses are hurting in general: House Stark is seceding and depleted of troops; House Greyjoy is essentially homeless; House Lannister out of cash; and Houses Baratheon and Aeryn run by novices. While it's all but stated that Bronn is building a new house of his own, nobody's in any shape to fight any new threat. The first House to build a real army could potentially topple Bran with little resistance.
** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.

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** The Houses are hurting in general: House Stark is seceding and depleted of troops; House Greyjoy is essentially homeless; House Lannister out of cash; and Houses Baratheon and Aeryn Arryn run by novices. While it's all but stated that Bronn is building a new house of his own, nobody's in any shape to fight any new threat. The first House to build a real army could potentially topple Bran with little resistance.
** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.kingdoms.
* Gilly's situation is not that good. She's pregnant, Maesters are not allowed to marry, and Sam seems to have left her up in the North. What's gonna happen if someone tries to rape her like in Season 5 and Sam and Ghost are not there to save her?

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.

!! FridgeLogic

* How on earth is it possible to accurately describe the historical events without even mentioning Tyrion? Among other feats:
** Tyrion is one of the few Hands to survive his masters, to the tune of three such turnovers. Lord Arryn was described as holding the position a long time, and still only served Robert Baratheon.
** Sersei blamed Tyrion for the death of Joffrey, and no surviving character knows better. While there's an outside chance Jaime could have passed along the truth, we see that the assassination is already the stuff of legend, with Tyrion's place as the mastermind in a play.
** Tyrion ends the story being the sole heir of House Lannister, and technically one of the few nobles with a direct claim to the throne (through Sersei). His open abdication is vital to keeping the peace.
** Most importantly, for all intents and purposes Tyrion is the sole architect of Westeros' new government, both naming the new king and establishing new rites of succession.

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** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms. \n\n!! FridgeLogic\n\n* How on earth is it possible to accurately describe the historical events without even mentioning Tyrion? Among other feats:\n** Tyrion is one of the few Hands to survive his masters, to the tune of three such turnovers. Lord Arryn was described as holding the position a long time, and still only served Robert Baratheon.\n** Sersei blamed Tyrion for the death of Joffrey, and no surviving character knows better. While there's an outside chance Jaime could have passed along the truth, we see that the assassination is already the stuff of legend, with Tyrion's place as the mastermind in a play.\n** Tyrion ends the story being the sole heir of House Lannister, and technically one of the few nobles with a direct claim to the throne (through Sersei). His open abdication is vital to keeping the peace.\n** Most importantly, for all intents and purposes Tyrion is the sole architect of Westeros' new government, both naming the new king and establishing new rites of succession.
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** The Houses are hurting in general: House Stark is seceding and depleted of troops; House Greyjoy is essentially homeless; House Lannister out of cash; Houses Baratheon and Aeryn , and run by novices. While it's all but stated that Bronn is building a new house of his own, nobody's in any shape to fight any new threat. The first House to build a real army could potentially topple Bran with little resistance.

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** The Houses are hurting in general: House Stark is seceding and depleted of troops; House Greyjoy is essentially homeless; House Lannister out of cash; and Houses Baratheon and Aeryn , and run by novices. While it's all but stated that Bronn is building a new house of his own, nobody's in any shape to fight any new threat. The first House to build a real army could potentially topple Bran with little resistance.
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* This video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-lavfgIBw&feature=em-uploademail]] notes that the Starks splitting into two branches (the North and South) parallels the Plantagenets, whose conflict led to the Wars of the Roses, a major inspiration for the books, then the TV series. Bran can't have children, true, but what if Arya at some point does and her descendants are at odds with Sansa's? A closer parallel of those wars might take place.

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* This video [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4-lavfgIBw&feature=em-uploademail]] notes that the Starks splitting into two branches (the North and South) parallels the Plantagenets, whose conflict led to the Wars of the Roses, a major inspiration for the books, then the TV series. Bran can't have children, true, but what if Arya at some point does and her descendants are at odds with Sansa's? A closer parallel of those wars might take place.place.
* The elaborate new rules of succession sound good, but won't change anything in the long run. At the very least, several existent problems remain:
** Euron Greyjoy razed what was left of the Iron Islands to make his new fleet, which Dany destroyed. Yara's partial fleet had fled before then, but their homeland -- previously inhospitable -- isn't going to have much to support life at this point. The Ironborn are going to need some alternative to raiding, fast, or else we're right back to war.
** The Houses are hurting in general: House Stark is seceding and depleted of troops; House Greyjoy is essentially homeless; House Lannister out of cash; Houses Baratheon and Aeryn , and run by novices. While it's all but stated that Bronn is building a new house of his own, nobody's in any shape to fight any new threat. The first House to build a real army could potentially topple Bran with little resistance.
** While the Iron Bank's best troops are dead, they still have their considerable resources. Without Drogon, Westeros is basically defenseless against the raw numbers the Iron Bank could throw at the kingdoms.

!! FridgeLogic

* How on earth is it possible to accurately describe the historical events without even mentioning Tyrion? Among other feats:
** Tyrion is one of the few Hands to survive his masters, to the tune of three such turnovers. Lord Arryn was described as holding the position a long time, and still only served Robert Baratheon.
** Sersei blamed Tyrion for the death of Joffrey, and no surviving character knows better. While there's an outside chance Jaime could have passed along the truth, we see that the assassination is already the stuff of legend, with Tyrion's place as the mastermind in a play.
** Tyrion ends the story being the sole heir of House Lannister, and technically one of the few nobles with a direct claim to the throne (through Sersei). His open abdication is vital to keeping the peace.
** Most importantly, for all intents and purposes Tyrion is the sole architect of Westeros' new government, both naming the new king and establishing new rites of succession.

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