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** On this subject, I discussed with a friend, telling him the turn was blatant and useless just to make a total happy ending (and to be fair, I still think that), and he said it was fairly foreshadowed before (it was, but still...) But on the subject of FridgeBrilliance (or Logic, at least), I have to admit for such a series, the moments of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, especially in the case of Anemone, were brilliant. At first she seemed unrealistic and bratty, but turns out it was just a mask and ''she knew what we knew, that'' '''''[[spoiler:she kept failing]]''''' ([[spoiler:no single victory against Eureka since she met her, for that matter]]. She also knew the price of failure and was well aware that Dewey could dispose of her if she became useless, outright mentioning [[YouHaveFailedMe she could be sent to be killed]]. This may seem like something thrown in for drama, but seriously, how many [[TheDragon top henchmen]] can guess their fate if they fail? ([[spoiler:She lived.]]) - [[Tropers/AnimeAddictAA A.A.]]

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** On this subject, I discussed with a friend, telling him the turn was blatant and useless just to make a total happy ending (and to be fair, I still think that), and he said it was fairly foreshadowed before (it was, but still...) But on the subject of FridgeBrilliance (or Logic, at least), I have to admit for such a series, the moments of SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, realism, especially in the case of Anemone, were brilliant. At first she seemed unrealistic and bratty, but turns out it was just a mask and ''she knew what we knew, that'' '''''[[spoiler:she kept failing]]''''' ([[spoiler:no single victory against Eureka since she met her, for that matter]]. She also knew the price of failure and was well aware that Dewey could dispose of her if she became useless, outright mentioning [[YouHaveFailedMe she could be sent to be killed]]. This may seem like something thrown in for drama, but seriously, how many [[TheDragon top henchmen]] can guess their fate if they fail? ([[spoiler:She lived.]]) - [[Tropers/AnimeAddictAA A.A.]]
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*** The book with the ContemptibleCover, originally ''The Golden Bough'' (a study of comparative mythology and religion), is now presumably a copy of Anemone's memoirs titled "New World Story".

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*** The book with the ContemptibleCover, contemptible cover, originally ''The Golden Bough'' (a study of comparative mythology and religion), is now presumably a copy of Anemone's memoirs titled "New World Story".
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** On this subject, I discussed with a friend, telling him the turn was blatant and useless just to make a total happy ending (and to be fair, I still think that), and he said it was fairly foreshadowed before (it was, but still...) But on the subject of FridgeBrilliance (or Logic, at least), I have to admit for such a series, the moments of RealityEnsues, especially in the case of Anemone, were brilliant. At first she seemed unrealistic and bratty, but turns out it was just a mask and ''she knew what we knew, that'' '''''[[spoiler:she kept failing]]''''' ([[spoiler:no single victory against Eureka since she met her, for that matter]]. She also knew the price of failure and was well aware that Dewey could dispose of her if she became useless, outright mentioning [[YouHaveFailedMe she could be sent to be killed]]. This may seem like something thrown in for drama, but seriously, how many [[TheDragon top henchmen]] can guess their fate if they fail? ([[spoiler:She lived.]]) - [[Tropers/AnimeAddictAA A.A.]]

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** On this subject, I discussed with a friend, telling him the turn was blatant and useless just to make a total happy ending (and to be fair, I still think that), and he said it was fairly foreshadowed before (it was, but still...) But on the subject of FridgeBrilliance (or Logic, at least), I have to admit for such a series, the moments of RealityEnsues, SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome, especially in the case of Anemone, were brilliant. At first she seemed unrealistic and bratty, but turns out it was just a mask and ''she knew what we knew, that'' '''''[[spoiler:she kept failing]]''''' ([[spoiler:no single victory against Eureka since she met her, for that matter]]. She also knew the price of failure and was well aware that Dewey could dispose of her if she became useless, outright mentioning [[YouHaveFailedMe she could be sent to be killed]]. This may seem like something thrown in for drama, but seriously, how many [[TheDragon top henchmen]] can guess their fate if they fail? ([[spoiler:She lived.]]) - [[Tropers/AnimeAddictAA A.A.]]
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** ({{Tropers/Pyrite}}) Cross-posted from the WMG page: There were those who hated the movie for its {{Egregious}} use of StockFootage while deviating from the series in others. But considering how a major theme of the ''Anime/EurekaSeven'' movie is about "rebirth" and "creating your own story" (e.g. Anemone's subplot, the movie's ending theme being titled "Storywriter"), it can be argued that the movie itself is a {{Subversion}} of the standard ClipShow movie, inviting you to draw parallels with the series:

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** ({{Tropers/Pyrite}}) Cross-posted from the WMG page: There were those who hated the movie for its {{Egregious}} JustForFun/{{Egregious}} use of StockFootage while deviating from the series in others. But considering how a major theme of the ''Anime/EurekaSeven'' movie is about "rebirth" and "creating your own story" (e.g. Anemone's subplot, the movie's ending theme being titled "Storywriter"), it can be argued that the movie itself is a {{Subversion}} of the standard ClipShow movie, inviting you to draw parallels with the series:
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*** Dewey, the series BigBad, [[spoiler: is practically dropped from the storyline]], and Anemone and Dominic are upgraded [[spoiler: from AntiVillain to ObiWan]].

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*** Dewey, the series BigBad, [[spoiler: is practically dropped from the storyline]], and Anemone and Dominic are upgraded [[spoiler: from AntiVillain to ObiWan]].TheMentor]].



* Renton gets one InUniverse after suddenly realizing that [[WhatMeasureIsAMook all of the enemy robots they had been fighting are nothing short of human beings getting KIA]].

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* Renton gets one InUniverse after suddenly realizing that [[WhatMeasureIsAMook all of the enemy robots they had been fighting are nothing short of human beings getting KIA]].
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* In ''Anime/EurekaSeven'', one of the many things in the end that bugged me was "The End" pulling a magical Heal-Face Turn and for some reason changing color. The solution seems so blatantly obvious to me now that this might have been obvious to everyone else from square one, but it’s taken me months to realize "The End" is a replica of Nirvash the way Anemone is a replica of Eureka and therefore has the same reality warping powers. I mean, if you’re going to go to the effort to make a copy of the best pilot in the world, it seems a waste not to have the best mech to go with her right? -Col. Schafer

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* In ''Anime/EurekaSeven'', one of the many things in the end that bugged me was "The End" pulling a magical Heal-Face Heel-Face Turn and for some reason changing color. The solution seems so blatantly obvious to me now that this might have been obvious to everyone else from square one, but it’s taken me months to realize "The End" is a replica of Nirvash the way Anemone is a replica of Eureka and therefore has the same reality warping powers. I mean, if you’re going to go to the effort to make a copy of the best pilot in the world, it seems a waste not to have the best mech to go with her right? -Col. Schafer
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* In ''EurekaSeven'', one of the many things in the end that bugged me was "The End" pulling a magical Heal-Face Turn and for some reason changing color. The solution seems so blatantly obvious to me now that this might have been obvious to everyone else from square one, but it’s taken me months to realize "The End" is a replica of Nirvash the way Anemone is a replica of Eureka and therefore has the same reality warping powers. I mean, if you’re going to go to the effort to make a copy of the best pilot in the world, it seems a waste not to have the best mech to go with her right? -Col. Schafer

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* In ''EurekaSeven'', ''Anime/EurekaSeven'', one of the many things in the end that bugged me was "The End" pulling a magical Heal-Face Turn and for some reason changing color. The solution seems so blatantly obvious to me now that this might have been obvious to everyone else from square one, but it’s taken me months to realize "The End" is a replica of Nirvash the way Anemone is a replica of Eureka and therefore has the same reality warping powers. I mean, if you’re going to go to the effort to make a copy of the best pilot in the world, it seems a waste not to have the best mech to go with her right? -Col. Schafer



** ({{Tropers/Pyrite}}) Cross-posted from the WMG page: There were those who hated the movie for its {{Egregious}} use of StockFootage while deviating from the series in others. But considering how a major theme of the ''EurekaSeven'' movie is about "rebirth" and "creating your own story" (e.g. Anemone's subplot, the movie's ending theme being titled "Storywriter"), it can be argued that the movie itself is a {{Subversion}} of the standard ClipShow movie, inviting you to draw parallels with the series:

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** ({{Tropers/Pyrite}}) Cross-posted from the WMG page: There were those who hated the movie for its {{Egregious}} use of StockFootage while deviating from the series in others. But considering how a major theme of the ''EurekaSeven'' ''Anime/EurekaSeven'' movie is about "rebirth" and "creating your own story" (e.g. Anemone's subplot, the movie's ending theme being titled "Storywriter"), it can be argued that the movie itself is a {{Subversion}} of the standard ClipShow movie, inviting you to draw parallels with the series:



* ''EurekaSeven'': At first glance, [[CrazyConsumption Anemone's consumption of jam]] doesn't seem to be a source of nightmares. Using FridgeBrilliance however, one can tell similarities between her jam... [[NightmareFuel and blood.]] This makes perfect sense, since Anemone is a sadistically demented girl for the series. [[spoiler: Until the last few episodes...]]

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* ''EurekaSeven'': ''Anime/EurekaSeven'': At first glance, [[CrazyConsumption Anemone's consumption of jam]] doesn't seem to be a source of nightmares. Using FridgeBrilliance however, one can tell similarities between her jam... [[NightmareFuel and blood.]] This makes perfect sense, since Anemone is a sadistically demented girl for the series. [[spoiler: Until the last few episodes...]]

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* When the Nirvash is upgraded to spec two, the whole body is reworked including the co-pilot system, as the two seats are moved closer to each other. As the Nirvash is an EmpathicWeapon, this is symbolic of Renton and Eureka growing closer togeher.

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** Desperation Disease is caused a person's consciousness being absorbed into the Scub Coral Command Cluster. When it's destroyed in the finale arc, you see people all around the world with the disease are liberated. Compac Drives amplify and influence trapars, which are the thoughts of the Scub Coral, connecting the human consciousness to the collective scub consciousness. Humans, such as LFO pilots, are able to use Compac Drives to use their thoughts and emotions to influence the LFOs they pilot. It only makes sense which consciousness is in control, sometimes humans influence scubs and vice-versa. -GC
* When the Nirvash is upgraded to spec two, the whole body is reworked including the co-pilot system, as the two seats are moved closer to each other. As the Nirvash is an EmpathicWeapon, this is symbolic of Renton and Eureka growing closer togeher.together.
** With Spec Three revealed, there are no longer seats, the entire Nirvash becomes an extension of its pilot's body, making it the ultimate in both physical and empathetic connections. The strength of Renton's emotions contribute directly into the speed and strength of the Nirvash in the finale.
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* When the Nirvash is upgraded to spec two, the whole body is reworked including the co-pilot system, as the two seats are moved closer to each other. As the Nirvash is an EmpathicWeapon, this is symbolic of Renton and Eureka growing closer togeher.
* Throughout the story Eureka refers to the Nirvash as a "he", but come the last episode it communicates to Renton with a feminine voice. This is probably because the Nirvash sounds different to each of them, as the Nirvash is a part of their relationship to each other.
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* Why is the treatment for Desperation Disease to turn the patients into Artificial Coralians? Desperation Disease occurs as a result of the patient wishing to know the Coralians more intimately. Turning them into Artificial Coralians grants their wish without requiring them to remain in a catatonic state.
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* Renton gets one InUniverse after suddenly realizing that [[WhatMeasureIsAMook all of the enemy robots they had been fighting are nothing short than human beings getting KIA]].

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* Renton gets one InUniverse after suddenly realizing that [[WhatMeasureIsAMook all of the enemy robots they had been fighting are nothing short than of human beings getting KIA]].
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** everything makes sense by episode 34
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* In episode 31, Eureka was described as being akin to the Voyager Probe, carrying a message to potential alien intelligences about humanity (Coralians in this case). With this whole deal about Eureka not knowing why shes there, perhaps to not ruin the mission for the Coralians, is to serve as an ambassador of sorts or an open hand... The Coralians noticed the human presence and, despite not coming off as an intelligent species, created Eureka for the two-fold purpose of figuring the humans out and becoming friends with them. Thus her being a "voyager probe" and a blank sheet of paper.
Also, it might being doing what ancient kings have done: Sending their daughter to marry one of their own as an agreement. This wouldn't have worked if Eureka knew why she was there because, much like her past self, it would've been a calculated move and ruined the results of their test.

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* In episode 31, Eureka was described as being akin to the Voyager Probe, carrying a message to potential alien intelligences about humanity (Coralians in this case). With this whole deal about Eureka not knowing why shes there, perhaps to not ruin the mission for the Coralians, is to serve as an ambassador of sorts or an open hand... The Coralians noticed the human presence and, despite not coming off as an intelligent species, created Eureka for the two-fold purpose of figuring the humans out and becoming friends with them. Thus her being a "voyager probe" and a blank sheet of paper.
paper. Also, it might being doing what ancient kings have done: Sending their daughter to marry one of their own as an agreement. This wouldn't have worked if Eureka knew why she was there because, much like her past self, it would've been a calculated move and ruined the results of their test.

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* In episode 31, Eureka was described as being akin to the Voyager Probe, carrying a message to potential alien intelligences about humanity (Coralians in this case). With this whole deal about Eureka not knowing why shes there, perhaps to not ruin the mission for the Coralians, is to serve as an ambassador of sorts or an open hand... The Coralians noticed the human presence and, despite not coming off as an intelligent species, created Eureka for the two-fold purpose of figuring the humans out and becoming friends with them. Thus her being a "voyager probe" and a blank sheet of paper.
Also, it might being doing what ancient kings have done: Sending their daughter to marry one of their own as an agreement. This wouldn't have worked if Eureka knew why she was there because, much like her past self, it would've been a calculated move and ruined the results of their test.
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* Renton gets one InUniverse after suddenly realizing that [[WhatMeasureIsAMook all of the enemy robots they had been fighting are nothing short than human beings getting KIA]].
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* ''EurekaSeven'': At first glance, [[CrazyConsumption Anemone's consumption of jam]] doesn't seem to be a source of nightmares. Using FridgeBrilliance however, one can tell similarities between her jam... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel and blood.]] This makes perfect sense, since Anemone is a sadistically demented girl for the series. [[spoiler: Until the last few episodes...]]

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* ''EurekaSeven'': At first glance, [[CrazyConsumption Anemone's consumption of jam]] doesn't seem to be a source of nightmares. Using FridgeBrilliance however, one can tell similarities between her jam... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel and blood.]] This makes perfect sense, since Anemone is a sadistically demented girl for the series. [[spoiler: Until the last few episodes...]]
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* In {{Gankutsuou}}, like most people, I thought that the titular demon[=/=]EldritchAbomination[=/=]who knows didn't make much sense as an addition to the original novel. Then, it hit me that Gankutsuou is a warped equivalent to Faria. In the original, Dantes is helped to escape prison by Faria, a benevolent priest, who also shares with him the location of vast wealth. In the anime, Dantes likewise escapes prison and becomes wealthy thanks to someone he encounters in prison, but in this case, it's more like a DealWithTheDevil. This contrast is actually quite clever given that the anime is a complete PerspectiveFlip of the original novel.- @/{{Jordan}}
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** Another possibility is that it's connected to Nirvash. Remember that Nirvash is a double-cockpitted LFO, and that Eureka always sits in the left cockpit. My theory is that since both Eureka and Nirvash's Archetype are variations of Coralians, they have some kind of effect on eachother, causing them both to physically change, but since Eureka's right side is closer to the Archetype's center, the visible changes are only prominent on Eureka's right half. Likewise, Nirvash has Eureka sitting inside it, causing it to be affected by the full dose of whatever causes the transformation, leading Nirvash to change into the Spec-2 and (somehow) later, the Spec-3 (or in the movie, Spec-V). This may also be supported by the fact that whenever Eureka touches Nirvash on the outside, it's with her right hand.
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*I wondered why it was only Eureka's right arm and some of the right of her face changed when she her Coralian traits started showing, considering it didn't show any signs of spreading after the wings grew. It wasn't until rewatching the series that I noticed that the parts that did change were also the parts that had the most noticeable side effects from almost remerging with the scrub.
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* ''EurekaSeven'': At first glance, [[CrazyConsumption Anemone's consumption of jam]] doesn't seem to be a source of nightmares. Using FridgeBrilliance however, one can tell similarities between her jam... [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel and blood.]] This makes perfect sense, since Anemone is a sadistically demented girl for the series. [[spoiler: Until the last few episodes...]]
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* In {{Gankutsuou}}, like most people, I thought that the titular demon[=/=]EldritchAbomination[=/=]who knows didn't make much sense as an addition to the original novel. Then, it hit me that Gankutsuou is a warped equivalent to Faria. In the original, Dantes is helped to escape prison by Faria, a benevolent priest, who also shares with him the location of vast wealth. In the anime, Dantes likewise escapes prison and becomes wealthy thanks to someone he encounters in prison, but in this case, it's more like a DealWithTheDevil. This contrast is actually quite clever given that the anime is a complete PerspectiveFlip of the original novel.- @/{{Jordan}}

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* In {{Gankutsuou}}, like most people, I thought that the titular demon[=/=]EldritchAbomination[=/=]who knows didn't make much sense as an addition to the original novel. Then, it hit me that Gankutsuou is a warped equivalent to Faria. In the original, Dantes is helped to escape prison by Faria, a benevolent priest, who also shares with him the location of vast wealth. In the anime, Dantes likewise escapes prison and becomes wealthy thanks to someone he encounters in prison, but in this case, it's more like a DealWithTheDevil. This contrast is actually quite clever given that the anime is a complete PerspectiveFlip of the original novel.- @/{{Jordan}}@/{{Jordan}}
** What?

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