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* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were made from kidnapped '''children'''.
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* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were made from kidnapped '''children'''.''children''.
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* If Artie is in the chess club why does he fall for a fool's mate? He never said he was ''good'' at chess. Furthermore, many chess players, when presented with a new chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non-humans, meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" possibly different. (Although those were alternate universe Cybermen, not originals.)
* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information.
* The Cybermen's SuperSpeed is enough to make everyone else seem so slow. If this is the case, and the body type suggests the ability to move in a much more versatile manner, ''how fast are they when they actually run''?
* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were ''made from kidnapped '''children'''''.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" possibly different. (Although those were alternate universe Cybermen, not originals.)
* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information.
* The Cybermen's SuperSpeed is enough to make everyone else seem so slow. If this is the case, and the body type suggests the ability to move in a much more versatile manner, ''how fast are they when they actually run''?
* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were ''made from kidnapped '''children'''''.
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** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" possibly different. (Although those were alternate universe Cybermen, not originals.)
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* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got''plenty'' plenty of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' one storage spot for the planner and all that information.
* The Cybermen's SuperSpeed is enough to make everyone else seem so slow. If this is the case, and the body type suggests the ability to move in a much more versatile manner,''how how fast are they when they actually run''?
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* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were''made made from kidnapped '''children'''''.'''children'''.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" possibly different. (Although those were alternate universe Cybermen, not originals.)
* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got
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* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were
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* The Cybermen's SuperSpeed is enough to make everyone else seem so slow. If this is the case, and the body type suggests the ability to move in a much more versatile manner, ''how fast are they when they actually run''?run''?
* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were ''made from kidnapped '''children'''''.
* The whole reason why the Cybermen set up their secret repair-outpost at an amusement park was because children's brains are more adaptable than those of adults, hence are ideal raw materials for Cyber-systems. So it's very likely that ''most if not all'' of the Cybermen which Clara and the soldiers fought in this episode were ''made from kidnapped '''children'''''.
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* Why is the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over The Doctor? It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane.
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non humans non-humans, meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of"The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" "Army of Ghosts"/"Doomsday" possibly different. (Although those were alternate universe cybermen Cybermen, not originals)originals.)
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* Why is the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. It seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. It makes sense when you realize [[spoiler:he's bluffing. ''The Time of the Doctor'' establishes that both the metacrisis Doctor and the War Doctor are legit incarnations, meaning 11 is actually on his 13th life. He ''can't'' regenerate. Note that even though Mr. Clever is reading his mind, there's no sign of the War Doctor in there; Eleven managed to conceal that information in an attempt to intimidate Mr. Clever into thinking it was an option]].
* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. It seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. It makes sense when you realize [[spoiler:he's bluffing. ''The Time of the Doctor'' establishes that both the metacrisis Doctor and the War Doctor are legit incarnations, meaning 11 is actually on his 13th life. He ''can't'' regenerate. Note that even though Mr. Clever is reading his mind, there's no sign of the War Doctor in there; Eleven managed to conceal that information in an attempt to intimidate Mr. Clever into thinking it was an option]].
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* Why is the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: Doctor? It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
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* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. It seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. It makes sense when you realize[[spoiler:he's he's bluffing. ''The Time of the Doctor'' establishes that both the metacrisis Doctor and the War Doctor are legit incarnations, meaning 11 is actually on his 13th life. He ''can't'' regenerate. Note that even though Mr. Clever is reading his mind, there's no sign of the War Doctor in there; Eleven managed to conceal that information in an attempt to intimidate Mr. Clever into thinking it was an option]].option.
* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. It seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. It makes sense when you realize
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* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. [[spoiler: Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information]].information.
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* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. Seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and oh yeah the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. But it makes sense when you realize [[spoiler:he's bluffing. ''The Time of the Doctor'' establishes that both the metacrisis Doctor and the War Doctor are legit incarnations, meaning 11 is actually on his 13th life. He ''can't'' regenerate. Note that even though Mr. Clever is reading his mind, there's no sign of the War Doctor in there; Eleven managed to conceal that information in an attempt to intimidate Mr. Clever into thinking it was an option]].
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* Artie is in the chess club and still falls for a fool's mate?
** He said he was in the chess club. He never said he was ''good'' at chess.
** Actually, many chess players, when presented with a new chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
!!FridgeLogic
* Artie is in the chess club and still falls for a fool's mate?
** He said he was in the chess club. He never said he was ''good'' at chess.
** Actually, many chess players, when presented with a new chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
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* The Doctor reveals to Mr. Clever that he could simply regenerate to rid himself of the Cyber-Infection, but is hesitant to waste a body doing so. Seems It seems a little bit selfish, considering that sacrificing a 1-Up could potentially prevent Clara, the children, a platoon of innocent soldiers, and oh yeah the entire universe from falling to the Cybermen. But it It makes sense when you realize [[spoiler:he's bluffing. ''The Time of the Doctor'' establishes that both the metacrisis Doctor and the War Doctor are legit incarnations, meaning 11 is actually on his 13th life. He ''can't'' regenerate. Note that even though Mr. Clever is reading his mind, there's no sign of the War Doctor in there; Eleven managed to conceal that information in an attempt to intimidate Mr. Clever into thinking it was an option]].
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* If Artie is in the chess club and still falls why does he fall for a fool's mate?
** He said he was in the chess club.mate? He never said he was ''good'' at chess.
** Actually,chess. Furthermore, many chess players, when presented with a new chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
** He said he was in the chess club.
** Actually,
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*** That and if a cyber-mite is actually capable of storing memory at all. As its just design for conversion and scouting...not storing memory.
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** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" possibly different.
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** Actually, many chess players, when presented with a chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
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** Actually, many chess players, when presented with a new chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
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** Actually, many chess players, when presented with a chess-playing program, will deliberately play-out the fool's mate game in order to quickly judge how good the program is. If it doesn't beat them in two moves, it's not a very good program.
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* Why the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
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* Why is the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
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** Depending on the memory capacity of one Cyber-mite.
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** Depending on the memory capacity of one Cyber-mite.Cyber-mite.
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* The Cybermen's SuperSpeed is enough to make everyone else seem so slow. If this is the case, and the body type suggests the ability to move in a much more versatile manner, ''how fast are they when they actually run''?
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* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. [[spoiler: Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information]].
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* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. [[spoiler: Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information]].information]].
** Depending on the memory capacity of one Cyber-mite.
** Depending on the memory capacity of one Cyber-mite.
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non humans meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''. ** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" possibly different.
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non humans meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" possibly different.
** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" possibly different.
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!!FridgeBrilliance
* Why the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
* Why the cyber-planner more emotive than the other cyber beings when it takes over [[spoiler: The Doctor]]? [[spoiler: It's because his mind and all the information he is holding is driving the thing borderline insane]].
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non humans meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''. ** If anything, a few well-placed Cyber-mites would have made the results of "The Army Of Ghosts" and "Doomsday" possibly different.
* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. [[spoiler: Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information]].
* A thing to consider: The Cyber-Planner got ''plenty'' of info on the Doctor before being forced out, so they could send any of that info to storage anywhere they might be dormant that wasn't on the imploded planet. [[spoiler: Considering a piece of Cyber tech survived, it is highly likely there is at least ''one'' storage spot for the planner and all that information]].
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* FridgeLogic: Artie is in the chess club and still falls for a fool's mate?
** He said he was in the chess club. He never said he was ''good'' at chess.
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*FridgeLogic: Artie is in the chess club and still falls for a fool's mate?
** He said he was in the chess club. He never said he was ''good'' atchess.chess.
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* Cybermen can now "Upgrade" non humans meaning possible Cyber Sontarans or even Cyber ''Daleks''.
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** He said he was in the chess club. He never said he was ''good'' at
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