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* HeelFaithTurn: Jeff's arc is intended as this. It ends up [[TookALevelInJerkass as something else entirely.]]



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Pastor Jim Owen. While you may disagree with his views, he at least seems to have given them real thought, is at least fairly moderate about it and doesn't judge others for their choices, even seeming to understand why kids like said music. Contrast him to Jeff who becomes insufferably self-righteous and refuses to let anyone else enjoy music he deems immoral, even when at their home. Brad Jones even praises him as a decent character in his otherwise extremely negative review of the film.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Pastor Jim Owen. While you may disagree with his views, he at least seems to have given them real thought, is at least fairly moderate about it and doesn't judge others for their choices, even seeming to understand why kids like said music. Contrast him to Jeff who becomes insufferably self-righteous and refuses to let anyone else enjoy music he deems immoral, even when at their home. Brad Jones even praises him as a decent character in his otherwise extremely negative review of the film.


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* TookALevelInJerkass: Jeff starts the film as a fairly normal, decent kid who just happens to like rock and metal music. Upon his conversion, he becomes abrasive, controlling, incredibly ignorant, insufferably self-righteous and even a bit bigoted.
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* AnecdotalFallacy: After a period of not listening to rock, and thus starting to realize how "harmful" all of its lyrics apparently are, without exception, Jeff is in the mall where a boombox is playing rock music. Jeff feels "compelled" to stop and listen and groove along with it. He later claims that the music was trying to "control" him, and makes the point in his end-of-the-film speech that in fact when people are at a rock concert and are swaying along, snapping their fingers, humming it, etc., this is an example of the music "controlling" them. It is never suggested if the same is true of people who are moved to tears by classical music, or raise their hands and sing along when hearing church music.
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Complaining, and opinionated.


* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Jeff's final speech against rock music brings up that some popular musicians are gay as a mark against it. This was the moment when Brad Jones turns it against him and the film completely after ironically enjoying it prior.

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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Jeff's final speech against rock music brings up that some popular musicians are gay as a mark against it. This was the moment when Brad Jones turns it against him and the film completely after ironically enjoying it prior.
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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a raving, bigoted fanatic who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence. You can make your point without writing off an entire genre of music as a tool of devil-worshipping, drug abusing homosexuals; that makes you sound fucking crazy, especially when your examples are debunked.''

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] [[EsotericHappyEnding who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence]]. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshipping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''
-->-- '''Creator/BradJones''', [[WebVideo/DVDRHell reviewing]] the movie on ''[[WebVideo/TVHeaven DVD-R Hell]]''.

A fundamentalist Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] [[EsotericHappyEnding fanatic who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence]]. independence. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] music as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshipping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; homosexuals; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], crazy, especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure examples are debunked]].debunked.''
-->-- '''Creator/BradJones''', [[WebVideo/DVDRHell reviewing]] reviewing the movie on ''[[WebVideo/TVHeaven DVD-R Hell]]''.

A fundamentalist ''Rock: It's Your Decision'' is a 1982 Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. music.

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Jeff Sims Sims, a teenager who is put under contract a bet by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".
against rock and roll.
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-->-- '''Creator/BradJones''', [[WebVideo/DVDRHell reviewing]] the movie.

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-->-- '''Creator/BradJones''', [[WebVideo/DVDRHell reviewing]] the movie.
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* HeelFaceTurn: What we're expected to see Jeff's arc as. It doesn't quite work, to put it mildly.
* HeteronormativeCrusader: Jeff brings up some rock musicians being gay as a mark against the genre at the end. Especially jarring as it's the only mention of that in the whole film.


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* InformedFlaw: The plot is kickstarted by Jeff's mother feeling his bad behavior is due to his music and the film expects us to agree. But Jeff really doesn't seem bad at all. He's a bit mouthy but that's normal for any teen and he even sincerely apologizes at one point for getting angry at his mom. He's overall less a sinner headed down a bad road than a normal, decent kid who just happens to like rock music. If anything, he becomes MUCH worse after changing his views the subject.


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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Jeff's final speech against rock music brings up that some popular musicians are gay as a mark against it. This was the moment when Brad Jones turns it against him and the film completely after ironically enjoying it prior.


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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Pastor Jim Owen. While you may disagree with his views, he at least seems to have given them real thought, is at least fairly moderate about it and doesn't judge others for their choices, even seeming to understand why kids like said music. Contrast him to Jeff who becomes insufferably self-righteous and refuses to let anyone else enjoy music he deems immoral, even when at their home. Brad Jones even praises him as a decent character in his otherwise extremely negative review of the film.
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* BrokenAesop: The action in this film is spurred by Jeff's mother becoming concerned about Jeff's recent bad attitude. Examples of his "bad" behavior include mouthing off to his mother and other boundary-pushing behaviors found in pretty much all children of any time period. In fact, Jeff seems to be a pretty good kid; he even feels guilty about talking back to his mother and delivers an unforced apology. It's later, after he's supposedly a better person, that he unrepentantly screams at her for being a hypocrite. Somehow showing us a kid that's pretty normal, or even better-behaved than average, turning into a judgmental creep doesn't exactly sell the "rock music makes your kids rebellious" message.

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* BrokenAesop: The action in this film is spurred by Jeff's mother becoming concerned about Jeff's recent bad attitude. Examples of his "bad" behavior include mouthing off to his mother and other boundary-pushing behaviors found in pretty much all children of any time period. In fact, Jeff seems to be a pretty good kid; he even feels guilty about talking back to his mother and delivers an unforced apology. It's later, after he's supposedly a better person, that he unrepentantly screams at her for being a hypocrite. Somehow showing us a kid that's pretty normal, or even better-behaved than average, average (if anything, talking back to your parents at least a little bit is considered ''healthy'', part of a perfectly normal stage of development as a teen begins to set boundaries and define themselves as separate from their parents), turning into a judgmental creep doesn't exactly sell the "rock music makes your kids rebellious" message.
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A fundumentalist Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".

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A fundumentalist fundamentalist Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: Jeff's mother uses a pastor to get her son off rock music, which ends up making him a loony fundamentalist that berates her for watching soap operas.
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A Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".

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A fundumentalist Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".
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A Christian fundamentalist propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".

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A Christian fundamentalist Christian propaganda film about the evils of rock music. Jeff Sims is put under contract by a preacher to give up rock music for two weeks, and research whether or not it's good for him as a Christian. Jeff takes him up on it, and soon ends up alienating everyone in sight as he becomes increasingly "fanatical".
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* SexIsEvil: By the end of the film, Jeff has adopted this mentality. He tells his mother that soap operas are nothing but "sex with commercials" and attacks songs for having sexually suggestive lyrics.

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* SexIsEvil: By the end of the film, Jeff has adopted this mentality. He tells his mother that soap operas are nothing but "sex with commercials" and attacks songs for having sexually suggestive titles and lyrics.

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] [[EsotericHappyEnding who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence]]. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshiping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] [[EsotericHappyEnding who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence]]. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshiping, devil-worshipping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''


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* SexIsEvil: By the end of the film, Jeff has adopted this mentality. He tells his mother that soap operas are nothing but "sex with commercials" and attacks songs for having sexually suggestive lyrics.
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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love of music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshiping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love of for music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] [[EsotericHappyEnding who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence.independence]]. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshiping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''

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->''This is a movie about a kid whose love of music is transmorphed into something quote-unquote evil by his paranoid parents until he is turned into a [[TheFundamentalist raving, bigoted fanatic]] who loses his friends, his personality, and any sense of independence. You can make your point without writing off [[TheNewRockAndRoll an entire genre of music]] as [[RottenRockAndRoll a tool of devil-worshiping, drug abusing homosexuals]]; that makes you sound [[EveryoneIsSatanInHell fucking crazy]], especially when [[ProofByExamples your examples]] [[CriticalResearchFailure are debunked]].''
-->-- '''Creator/BradJones''', [[WebVideo/DVDRHell reviewing]] the movie.
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* TwoDecadesBehind: This came out in 1982, long after the Christian backlash against rock music had become a joke in all but the most fundamentalist circles (which Jeff's church clearly isn't). Almost all of the songs Jeff cites are from the '70s as well.

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* TwoDecadesBehind: This came out in 1982, long after the Christian backlash against rock music had become a joke in all but the most fundamentalist circles (which Jeff's church clearly isn't). Almost all of the songs Jeff cites are from the '70s as well.well, though album rock remained popular well into the 1980s.
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* TwoDecadesBehind: This came out in 1982, long after the Christian backlash against rock music had become a joke in all but the most fundamentalist circles (which Jeff's church clearly isn't). Almost all of the songs Jeff cites are from the '60s as well.

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* TwoDecadesBehind: This came out in 1982, long after the Christian backlash against rock music had become a joke in all but the most fundamentalist circles (which Jeff's church clearly isn't). Almost all of the songs Jeff cites are from the '60s '70s as well.
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* TheNewRockAndRoll: The entire film is basically the tract "The music Kids These Days are listening to is evil!" in movie form.

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* TheNewRockAndRoll: The entire film is basically the tract "The music Kids These Days are listening to is evil!" in movie form. Well the music their parents listened to at that age anyway, thanks to TwoDecadesBehind.
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* TheNewRockAndRoll: The entire film is basically the tract "The music Kids These Days are listening to is evil!" in movie form.


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* RottenRockAndRoll: According to the film, ''all'' "rock music" endorses evil.
* SexDrugsAndRockAndRoll: Rock music's association with this trope doesn't do it any favors with Jeff and his church.
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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme {{Jerkass}} and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's {{soap opera}}s as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and UsefulNotes/{{homosexuality}} while he's at it) in front of his church group.

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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme {{Jerkass}} and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's {{soap opera}}s as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and UsefulNotes/{{homosexuality}} UsefulNotes/{{homosexual}}ity while he's at it) in front of his church group.
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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme {{Jerkass}} and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's soap operas as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and homosexuality while he's at it) in front of his church group.

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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme {{Jerkass}} and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's soap operas {{soap opera}}s as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and homosexuality UsefulNotes/{{homosexuality}} while he's at it) in front of his church group.
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* LargeHam: Jeff's speech at the end is done with more ham than Shatner could ever hope to amass, and Jeff also serves it up with plenty of stuffing and gravy. Seriously, don't watch that scene while eating or drinking anything, because you'll start laughing so hard you'll choke.

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* LargeHam: Jeff's speech at the end is done with more ham than Shatner Creator/WilliamShatner could ever hope to amass, and Jeff also serves it up with plenty of stuffing and gravy. Seriously, don't watch that scene while eating or drinking anything, because you'll start laughing so hard you'll choke.
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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme Jerkass and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's soap operas as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and homosexuality while he's at it) in front of his church group.

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* CluelessAesop: The movie is supposed to have "Rock music will lead you down a life of sin if you don't reject it and accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior" as an aesop. It might've done an adequate job... if the main character didn't instantly turn into a supreme Jerkass {{Jerkass}} and a holier-than-thou religious zealot when he finally did, turning on his friends and even his own family (who were trying to steer him away from rock music in the first place) when he starts viewing his mother's soap operas as evil, too, and ending the special raving about the evils of rock music (and homosexuality while he's at it) in front of his church group.
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* BrokenAesop: The action in this film is spurred by Jeff's mother becoming concerned about Jeff's recent bad attitude. Examples of his "bad" behavior include mouthing off to his mother and other boundary-pushing behaviors found in pretty much all children of any time period. In fact, Jeff seems to be a pretty good kid, even feeling guilty about talking back to his mother and delivering an unforced apology. It's later, after he's supposedly a better person, that he unrepentantly screams at her for being a hypocrite. Somehow showing us a kid that's pretty normal, or even better-behaved than average, turning into a judgmental creep doesn't exactly sell the "rock music makes your kids rebellious" message.

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* BrokenAesop: The action in this film is spurred by Jeff's mother becoming concerned about Jeff's recent bad attitude. Examples of his "bad" behavior include mouthing off to his mother and other boundary-pushing behaviors found in pretty much all children of any time period. In fact, Jeff seems to be a pretty good kid, kid; he even feeling feels guilty about talking back to his mother and delivering delivers an unforced apology. It's later, after he's supposedly a better person, that he unrepentantly screams at her for being a hypocrite. Somehow showing us a kid that's pretty normal, or even better-behaved than average, turning into a judgmental creep doesn't exactly sell the "rock music makes your kids rebellious" message.

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