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* X Meets Y: This film could be summarized as being Scent of a Woman meets Unforgiven

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* CollateralAngst: [[spoiler: Sue spends most of the film as an engaging, intelligent, and interesting character. However, after she is beaten and gang-raped in order to motivate Walt's HeroicSacrifice, that's it for her agency, and even dialogue, for the rest of the film. We only see her again, still bruised and shell-shocked, in the congregation at Walt's funeral]].



* StuffedIntoTheFridge: [[spoiler: Sue spends most of the film as an engaging, intelligent, and interesting character. However, after she is beaten and gang-raped in order to motivate Walt's HeroicSacrifice, that's it for her agency, and even dialogue, for the rest of the film. We only see her again, still bruised and shell-shocked, in the congregation at Walt's funeral]].
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* MohsScaleOfViolenceHardness: It gets a 5, for [[spoiler:the rape]], otherwise the violence is on level 4, with the cigarette burning and [[spoiler:Walt Kowalski being riddled with bullets at the end (mostly bloodless)]].
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* BerserkButton: It's hard not to press Walt's: it is best not to steal his Gran Torino, get him to move into a retirement home, or, in a more heartwarming example, hurt Thao and Sue.

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* BerserkButton: It's [[HairTriggerTemper hard not to press Walt's: Walt's]]: it is best not to steal his Gran Torino, get him to move into a retirement home, or, in a more heartwarming example, hurt Thao and Sue.
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* INeedAFreakingDrink: Walt offers Father Janovich a beer the day after [[spoiler: Sue gets raped]]. Janovich exhaustedly says, "I'd love one."
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* NotSoDifferent: Walt basically says this to himself when he's in the bathroom at the neighbor's house. He looks in the mirror says that, "God, I've got more in common with [[PretendPrejudice these gooks]] than I have with my own spoiled-rotten family."

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* NotSoDifferent: NotSoDifferentRemark: Walt basically says this to himself when he's in the bathroom at the neighbor's house. He looks in the mirror says that, "God, I've got more in common with [[PretendPrejudice these gooks]] than I have with my own spoiled-rotten family."



* RacistGrandma: Walt is a deconstruction of this trope. The whole point of the movie is that Walt realizes the people who he has being directing racial slurs all his life are NotSoDifferent, that his experience as a soldier [[ShellShockedVeteran only let him know much more about death than about life]], and that he is a KnowNothingKnowItAll.

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* RacistGrandma: Walt is a deconstruction of this trope. The whole point of the movie is that Walt realizes the people who he has being directing racial slurs all his life are NotSoDifferent, aren't so different, that his experience as a soldier [[ShellShockedVeteran only let him know much more about death than about life]], and that he is a KnowNothingKnowItAll.
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* RevengeIsNotJustice: [[spoiler: In a deconstruction of vigilante justice, Walt's attempt to help the Vang Lor family by assaulting a gang member leads to a drive-by shooting, the injuring of Thao, and the kidnapping and raping Sue. While Thao desires revenge, Walt imprisons him so he can't act on his revenge since Walt knows from experience that killing others isn't as glorious as Thao thinks. Walt instead orchestrates his own death so Spider and the gang can be arrested.]]
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** [[spoiler: On the other hand, it's not clear that he had a well-formed conscience, at least from a Catholic perspective. e.g. You would think that his (relatively recent) history of using frequent racial slurs against minority groups would merit at least some mention in the confessional, and he also should have confessed that he hadn't been to Confession for X number of years, since Catholics who have attained the age of reason are required (under penalty of grave sin) to go to Confession at least once per year.]]
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* [[spoiler: CrucifiedHeroShot]]: [[spoiler: Walt, after he gets shot to death by the Hmong gang at the end of the movie.]]

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* GenreDeconstruction: In defiance of the common VigilanteMan trope Eastwood himself helped popularize, [[spoiler:Walt's attempt to drive off the gang alone goes horribly wrong and just results in them being emboldened by their humiliation and brutally retaliating, beating and raping Sue and eventually killing Walt himself. What solves the issue is when Walt gets the police involved and ''plenty'' of witnesses to the gang's crimes.]]



* RealityEnsues: In defiance of the common VigilanteMan trope Eastwood himself helped popularize, [[spoiler:Walt's attempt to drive off the gang alone goes horribly wrong and just results in them being emboldened by their humiliation and brutally retaliating, beating and raping Sue and eventually killing Walt himself. What solves the issue is when Walt gets the police involved and ''plenty'' of witnesses to the gang's crimes.]]
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* MightyWhitey: Walter. It apparently takes one elderly auto-worker to figure out how to fix everything that his Hmong neighbors can't, whether that's teaching Theo how to "be a man" or stopping the local gang.

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* MightyWhitey: Walter. It apparently takes one elderly auto-worker to figure out how to fix everything that his Hmong neighbors can't, whether that's teaching Theo how to "be a man" or stopping the local gang. [[spoiler: At the cost of his life, mind you, but still.]]
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* YourDaysAreNumbered: A longtime smoker, Walt suffers from coughing fits, [[BloodFromTheMouth occasionally coughing up blood]]. [[spoiler: When he finally goes to see a doctor about it, it's made clear he doesn't have long to live, making his Heroic Sacrifice all the more understandable.]]

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* YourDaysAreNumbered: A longtime smoker, Walt suffers from coughing fits, [[BloodFromTheMouth occasionally coughing up blood]]. [[spoiler: When he finally goes to see a doctor about it, it's made clear he doesn't have long to live, making his Heroic Sacrifice HeroicSacrifice all the more understandable.]]
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Not to be confused with the series ''Videogame/GranTurismo''.

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Not to be confused with the series ''Videogame/GranTurismo''. Or the ''Manga/MyHeroAcademia'' character.
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: It’s implied that Spider gave himself the nickname because he thought it sounded cooler than his actual name, Fong. Sue apparently disagrees with this notion as she mocks him for what she sees as an AtrociousAlias.
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* LullDestruction: Walt talks to himself a ''lot''. And to his dog. Some of this may help the story, but a lot of it could be communicated without words, or is information the audience already has. TruthInTelevision, as multiple studies have shown that people who live alone or are isolated tend to talk to themselves just to break the silence around them.
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* BaitTheDog: When Thao is being harassed by a gang of mexican thugs, Spider and his gang come over to scare off the mexican gangbangers. At first, it seems like they're protecting Thao, however as the film progresses, it becomes more or less clear that their first act of kindness was not at all genuine.

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* BaitTheDog: When Thao is being harassed by a gang of mexican Mexican thugs, Spider and his gang come over to scare off the mexican gangbangers. them off. At first, it seems like they're protecting Thao, however Thao. However, as the film progresses, it becomes more or less clear that their first act of kindness was not at all genuine.
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* YoureNotMyFather: While they don't actually say this, it's clear Walt's two sons have denounced[=/=]disowned him as their father due to their established distant relationship, only caring to hope for his impeding death out of IrrationalHatred behind his back to relieve them of his existence to completely inherit his precious belongings for their own ends.

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* YoureNotMyFather: While they don't actually say this, it's clear Walt's two sons have irreconcilably denounced[=/=]disowned him as their father long before the film's events due to their established distant relationship, only caring to hope for his impeding death out of IrrationalHatred behind his back to relieve them of his existence to completely inherit his precious belongings for their own ends.
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* IHaveNoSon: If Walt [[spoiler:cutting off his sons and their families out of his will after his HeroicSacrifice is any indication]].

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* IHaveNoSon: If Walt [[spoiler:cutting off his sons and their families out of his will after his HeroicSacrifice is any indication]].indication, likely for their IrrationalHatred of Walt and despicable YoureNotMyFather nature towards him in life]].
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* IHaveNoSon: If Walt [[spoiler:cutting off his sons and their families out of his will after his HeroicSacrifice is any indication]].
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* YoureNotMyFather: While they don't actually say this, it's clear Walt's two sons have denounced[=/=]disowned him as their father due to their established distant relationship, only caring to hope for his impeding death behind his back to relieve them of his existence to completely inherit his precious belongings for their own ends.

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* YoureNotMyFather: While they don't actually say this, it's clear Walt's two sons have denounced[=/=]disowned him as their father due to their established distant relationship, only caring to hope for his impeding death out of IrrationalHatred behind his back to relieve them of his existence to completely inherit his precious belongings for their own ends.
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* YoureNotMyFather: While they don't actually say this, it's clear Walt's two sons have denounced[=/=]disowned him as their father due to their established distant relationship, only caring to hope for his impeding death behind his back to relieve them of his existence to completely inherit his precious belongings for their own ends.
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* EmbarrassingNickname: Walt dislikes being called "Wally" by Sue. He eventually gets used to it.
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* BaitTheDog: When Thao is being harassed by a gang of mexican thugs, Spider and his gang come over to scare off the mexican gangbangers. At first, it seems like they're protecting Thao, however as the film progresses, it becomes more or less clear that their first act of kindness was not at all genuine.

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* BadassGrandpa[=/=]RetiredBadass: Walt Kowalski embodies a realistic version of this trope, as well as being a {{Deconstruction}} of the trope. Walt's fighting skills don't help him in his life in the city. His recently deceased wife was all too aware that their two grown sons cannot empathize with Walt, so she asks the local GoodShepherd to keep an eye on him after her death. Walt’s antics and {{Badass Boast}}s give him a reputation of a CrankyNeighbor and only make things worse (see MyGodWhatHaveIDone). His real act of bravery is realizing he is a TroubledSympatheticBigot, and the conflict is not solved by his acts of violence [[spoiler:but with a BatmanGambit that invokes ShootHimHeHasAWallet. The only people who really felt protected by him were his neighbors.]]



* ComingOfAgeStory: A delayed example -- Walter Kowalski, even when he is a senior who has raised a family, still lives emotionally as [[ShellShockedVeteran the young soldier that crossed]] the MoralEventHorizon during the UsefulNotes/KoreanWar. He must [[HeelRealization assume]] he is a {{grumpy|OldMan}}, {{jaded|Washout}}, {{cranky|Neighbor}}, RacistGrandpa who has alienated his own family and now that his wife has died is completely alone, so he can be a real BadassGrandpa PapaWolf.

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* ComingOfAgeStory: A delayed example -- Walter Kowalski, even when he is a senior who has raised a family, still lives emotionally as [[ShellShockedVeteran the young soldier that crossed]] the MoralEventHorizon during the UsefulNotes/KoreanWar. He must [[HeelRealization assume]] he is a {{grumpy|OldMan}}, {{jaded|Washout}}, {{cranky|Neighbor}}, RacistGrandpa who has alienated his own family and now that his wife has died is completely alone, so he can be a real BadassGrandpa PapaWolf.


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* RetiredBadass: Walt Kowalski embodies a realistic version of this trope, as well as being a {{Deconstruction}} of the trope. Walt's fighting skills don't help him in his life in the city. His recently deceased wife was all too aware that their two grown sons cannot empathize with Walt, so she asks the local GoodShepherd to keep an eye on him after her death. Walt’s antics and {{Badass Boast}}s give him a reputation of a CrankyNeighbor and only make things worse (see MyGodWhatHaveIDone). His real act of bravery is realizing he is a TroubledSympatheticBigot, and the conflict is not solved by his acts of violence [[spoiler:but with a BatmanGambit that invokes ShootHimHeHasAWallet. The only people who really felt protected by him were his neighbors.]]

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* DrinkOrder: Walt drinks only Pabst Blue Ribbon at his home and the bar. When drinking at his neighbor's, he notes that they have plenty of beer, even if it's not Pabst.
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* HumiliationConga: Trey, in his one scene. He and Sue are accosted by three black youths who treat him with only contempt, tell him to go away, and start coming on strongly to an uninterested Sue. After he completely fails to defend Sue, Walt shows up and rescues her at gunpoint. When Trey tries to make nice with Walt, Walt treats him with even ''more'' contempt. We never see him again.
--> '''Trey''': Way to go, old man!
--> '''Walt''': [turns his gun on him] Shut up, pussy. What is all this "bro" shit, anyway? Want to be Super Spade or something? These guys don't want to be your bro, and I don't blame 'em. Now get your ofay Paddy ass on down the road.
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* RealityEnsues: In defiance of the common VigilanteMan trope Eastwood himself helped popularize, [[spoiler:Walt's attempt to drive off the gang alone goes horribly wrong and just results in them being emboldened by their humiliation and brutally retaliating, beating and raping Sue and eventually killing Walt himself. What solves the issue is when Walt gets the police involved and ''plenty'' of witnesses to the gang's crimes.]]
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* MinorMajorCharacter: [[spoiler:Officer Chang, the Hmong policeman who arrests Spider at the end of the film. Thematically as well as in-universe, since in the context of the film he shows that Thao falling into the same life as his cousins was never a foregone conclusion.]]
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* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:After Walt's wife dies, his sons and their families disrespectfully tried to get their hands on Walt's possessions. By the end of the film, Walt leaves them with nothing.]]

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